Licence exemption?

[Damage88]

I have heard that there is a way to skip the learner period on a bike, is this true if so how do you go about it?

[SMOKEU]

It's another urban myth, unless anyone can prove me wrong. Apparently a system like that used to exist, but that is no longer the case.

[Staticam]

Perhaps not the learner period but exemptions can be granted. I went from learners to full on a 600 :yes:. However, NZTA seems to operate carte blanche with the following rule :
"The NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) is not obliged to grant an exemption if it is not considered appropriate to do so."
... and this might be an issue for you:
"It is unlikely that an exemption will be granted on a class 1 or 6 learner licence, or in the first six months of holding your restricted licence."

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/driver-licence-exemption/docs/dl4-exemption-application.pdf
Good luck using it, you'll need it.

[Damage88]

Hmm well that looks like one of those bureaucratic wormholes. Put the money in and never see it again.

Staticam I take it you still underwent the full duration of your 6L?

[Staticam]

Indeed it is a quagmire, and you have to be prepared for the almost inevitable loss but in my case the fight was worth it.

Um well yeah, I think 25 years ought to cover it. Rode only for the first year on 6L then sold the bike. For short periods between then and now mostly farm bike riding. I got given the 600 so decided to finish what I started so long ago... this time last year I graduated.

[Mrs Shrek]

I have heard that there is a way to skip the learner period on a bike, is this true if so how do you go about it?

why skip it? there is always heaps to learn and its only for 6mts :shifty: or is it the L plate thing you don't want to be seen with :whistle:

[Damage88]

As vain as it may seem yeah, thats pretty much the heart of the issue. Although the hours of restriction, 70kph speed limit and not being able to 2up are an inconvenience too.
oh and I have to trade my green licence for a blue one...

[porky]

It's another urban myth, unless anyone can prove me wrong. Apparently a system like that used to exist, but that is no longer the case.

Before urban myths....... early 80`s you could do approx 8???? saturdays at the springs. Thats before all the soft cock yuppies moved in and complained about the noise. You were issued a cert and this was presented to get a full. Didnt shave a heap off the time, so most did it to up their skills and the chance to be ivan M for half a day.

[Gubb]

As vain as it may seem yeah, thats pretty much the heart of the issue. Although the hours of restriction, 70kph speed limit and not being able to 2up are an inconvenience too.
oh and I have to trade my green licence for a blue one...

Man up and deal with it. You may even learn something.

[Staticam]

As vain as it may seem yeah, thats pretty much the heart of the issue. Although the hours of restriction, 70kph speed limit and not being able to 2up are an inconvenience too.
oh and I have to trade my green licence for a blue one...

A legit work reason will get only a limited exemption on the hours. I've heard 70kph is often overlooked. :Police: Unless it's your spouse (but I doubt even then) 2up ain't gonna happen. And a piece of transparent plastic in the right hue will sort out the colour.

Don't say inconvenient - what you need is an extenuating circumstance.

[Gremlin]

Yeup... you haven't given a single good reason as to why you want to skip the learners phase. Getting an exemption on the restricted is not a granted thing, and the learners is even harder.

Use the time constructively... to learn.

[pzkpfw]

Build a time machine, go back four years, and enroll in a CBTA course.

[Old Steve]

Tough. The L period is there to do one thing, learn to survive. Build your skills.

I'm into my sixties and I'm doing the full 6 mopnths on my yellow "badge of courage". I'm doing as many km as possible, have taken a defensive riding course which will cut my 6R in half, not having a pillion passenger, and not riding after 10 pm and before 5 am. Um, there's something else, what was it? Oh, OK, I do cruise at 100 to 110 on the open road when out with the club or on my own and the Police don't seem to be too worried.

It's just something you've got to go through. Tough, but so what. If I come out of it a better rider then I'm happy. If it's good enough for me then it's good enough for you. Suck it up!

[scumdog]

Why do people wantso much to avoid being a Learner?

Y'all gotta start somewhere..

[FJRider]

All you guys that think you know it all ... are spoiling it for those of us that do .... :shifty:

[Reckless]

Trust an old fart like me, do the time avoid the crime!
There are many fazes of learning including the overconfidence one that hits about a year in! Best be on a 250 when that hits and takes a good scare or an off to cure you of it!!

My boy MX's with me, road rides and has had quite a few years top level kart racing under his belt and still has a year to go on his restricted. He still comes to me after his first year saying, far out this car did this, or jeepers the bike stepped out on a line this morning. I am just so glad as his Dad he's learning it all on a VTR250!! Cuase you can't tell them, they gotta learn the hard way!!

Trust me you'll look back in another year and appreciate what new stuff you learned and the close shaves you had on the 250!

Lecture over have fun out there!

PS buy a race bike or bucket with your extra money, then you will have real fun!!

[Damage88]

The main reason gremlin, for me wanting this exemption is that I regularly travel between rotorua and taupo, rotorua and tauranga, rotorua and hamilton. Riding at 70k's on highways is dangerous for a few reasons; one of which is it encourages other motorists to overtake often, it also incites rage from anyone stuck behind through a supposed unpassable stretch. I would be riding outside the set hours too.

Yeah a race bike would be the tits, will defiantly look into getting one once the bank statements start looking a bit more healthy.

[marty]

So how do you get to those places now?

Suck it up like everyone else has to. 6 months will be over before this thread dies. Unless you don't even have a 6L yet.

[Damage88]

I drive. Prefer to ride though.

[sil3nt]

Just ride at 100. I only ever put my L plate on for the restricted test and i never rode at 70. Its just plain stupid. If you don't give the police a reason to pull you over then they wont!

[PrincessBandit]

The L plate draws plenty of debate from both sides of the fence regarding support and derision; as does the 70kph limits, and the curfew (not so much the 2up aspect).

6 months does go fast if you're not crossing the days of on the calendar! (Watched pot never boils and all that....) It will only seem like an issue if you make it one.

Regarding going up to a bigger bike, my husband had to do this as our ginny (which was my learner bike) was too small for his wide and heavy frame. He got an exemption to ride my 650 bandit but they wouldn't extend it the full 6 months for the R. They made him do a defensive driving course, which taught him nothing and was filled with lbr's who were on the naughty mat, but did enable him to sit his F at the end of 3 months. It was an expensive way to go as he would have been happy to take the full 6 months on R, but the exemption wouldn't be extended for that - bare minimum 3 months they said, as you are entitled to sit your full any time from then after doing a DD course.

p.s. you have the luxury of at least having alternative transport to use, so the bike license issue is really only one of impatience.

[pc220]

Just suck it up and do the time. I spent 9 months on a wee scorpio, did me no harm. As for the 70km/h, L plates and restrictions on hours, highway cops are unlikely to pull you up unless you are acting like a total tool.

[hellokitty]

Just suck it up and do the time. I spent 9 months on a wee scorpio, did me no harm. As for the 70km/h, L plates and restrictions on hours, highway cops are unlikely to pull you up unless you are acting like a total tool.

Lol - I had my learners for a year before I even got a bike! Did my restricted a few weeks after getting my bike. Had surgery on my hand, got the surgeon's ok to ride and then sat my full - so had about 2 months of riding experience before my full license. I was lucky........

but my husband is on his learners and has an exemption to ride a 1200cc bike as when he moved here 12 years ago from Aussie, there was a mistake with his NZ license and the motorbike license wasn't transfered, just the car license. He will go straight to sitting his full license. We had a really nice guy called Doug Swanson that helped him out - really good instructor as well.

The time will pass really quickly though, and as for not being able to take a passenger - surely that is a bonus? I hate it when people ask me if they can jump on the back - luckily my seat is too small......