Decisions farking decisions

[Stirts]

I have been applying for jobs left, right, and centre, for the last few weeks. I have lost track of what I have applied for (reactive response to working with farktards and wanting to get the hell out) and been declined for some and completely ignored for others :angry: - no real surprises there.

This morning I had a second interview at a rather large government organisation, they are impressed - of course it doesn't take much. And so they have put a verbal offer on the table.

$26.00 per annum shy of what I am earning currently and I have a feeling they are not going to budge on this start point :mellow: Now for those that have worked in large organisations or a government department will understand that roles are generally “salary banded” – this jobbie has 10 levels in the band and the offer sits at level 4.

So there is substantial room to move up the salary scale, the role itself is mundane (Administration Support) but busy – the later part I love. There is a huge opportunity to move sideways, up, over within the organisation also.

I have applied for an Operations and HR Coordinator at APN – this is the kind of role I would like to get back into, but unlike above, no real room to progress within this Company as far as I can see. This position closed yesterday so they will be currently culling the masses of CVs.

My current role has been affected substantially by the recession, and things will not pick up for the company for at least another year. This is adding uncertainty to my role and I have been made fully aware that "things" are to be reviewed in December.

So……I need a little help/advice from you lot as things are just whirling around in my head and I can’t seem to pin-down any helpful thoughts or feelings as to "where to next from here".

[mashman]

if you get the job, give it a shot and make it your own... if there's no wiggle room or you just plain hate it, get another one... failing that you can still walk the streets for money Rooooooxanne... good luck :)

[Stirts]

failing that you can still walk the streets for money Rooooooxanne... good luck :)

This is Tauranga we are talking about, walk down to The Strand on a Friday and you can get that shit for free :D

[mashman]

This is Tauranga we are talking about, walk down to The Strand on a Friday and you can get that shit for free :D

wanna find me a job too please :shifty:

[NighthawkNZ]

Get the blue bike... I like blue... you were talking about a bike weren't you :blink:

[Stirts]

Get the blue bike...

You lost me at "get the blue bike"! You tool, black is THE only colour that a bike should be.

[mashman]

You lost me at "get the blue bike"! You tool, black is THE only colour that a bike should be.

with opinions like that, no wonder you can't get a job :shifty: (just in case anyone wants to get sensitive, it was a joke :))

[kiwifruit]

$26.00 per annum shy of what I am earning currently and I have a feeling they are not going to budge on this start point :mellow:

$26.00 isn't alot of difference Tina, a tank of gas a year!

:sunny:

[Stirts]

wanna find me a job too please :shifty:

They need a male model suffering from blue balls at the art school.


with opinions like that, no wonder you can't get a job :shifty: (just in case anyone wants to get sensitive, it was a joke :))

You hurt my feeling :bleh:

[Stirts]

$26.00 isn't alot of difference Tina, a tank of gas a year!

:sunny:

That is one less ride Mr Fruity ONE LESS RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE!!!! :gob:

EDIT: But yes I get where you are coming from :D

[mashman]

They need a male model suffering from blue balls at the art school.

You hurt my feeling :bleh:

:rofl: they're not blue... well at least i don't think they are... mind you I haven't seen them since she changed the combination on the safe :)...

[Stirts]

mind you I haven't seen them since she changed the combination on the safe :)...

Pssssssssssssst.....that is not a very safe way for contraception aye!

[neels]

That is one less ride Mr Fruity ONE LESS RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE!!!! :gob:

EDIT: But yes I get where you are coming from :D
One less feed of KFC and you get your ride back, and you'll be healthier

Ups and downs with choosing a job, go with a bigger organisation where you've at least got a few years of upward pay movement and some options to move around if you get bored, but you might end up feeling like just another pointless cog in a big machine. More specialised and interesting means you might like going to work more and feel like you're making more of a contribution, but nowhere to go might mean you're looking around again after a while and you're back where you started. Options are a good thing, if you can get a job where you have some without changing employers can be useful.

[Stirts]

Ups and downs with choosing a job, go with a bigger organisation where you've at least got a few years of upward pay movement and some options to move around if you get bored, but you might end up feeling like just another pointless cog in a big machine. More specialised and interesting means you might like going to work more and feel like you're making more of a contribution, but nowhere to go might mean you're looking around again after a while and you're back where you started. Options are a good thing, if you can get a job where you have some without changing employers can be useful.

That is a great post - thank you. And certainly what I was initially thinking before all the bad mannered little voices in my head started ranting.

[Nasty]

Now its a government org, it works on bands and then percentile. Generally, low end being 85% often being the offered number. There is no harm is asking for either more money or more leave (you can push to five weeks at times) ...

With the job I am in now they offered 10K less than I wanted and I haggled with both leave and pay and accepted pay being more beneficial to me. I now have the leave as well.

If they want you enough to make a verbal offer they will often be aware of the situation to know when they are pushing the bargain of getting you at a cheap price. Asking for me only risks them saying no .. it doesn't mean that if you still want the job that you can't take it. You can also haggle a three month review with a figure attached.

[Stirts]

If they want you enough to make a verbal offer they will often be aware of the situation to know when they are pushing the bargain of getting you at a cheap price. Asking for me only risks them saying no .. it doesn't mean that if you still want the job that you can't take it. You can also haggle a three month review with a figure attached.

Hmmmmmmm I was thinking six-month review - but I REALLY like the sound of three-months. You is awesome.

Oh bums ..... now where did I place my haggle skills. :scratch:

Weird how things change. I have never really been money orientated when it came to employment, more about the people and culture of the working environment. But having a mortgage certainly changed that.

[oldrider]

If you are unhappy where you are and you get the offer of the new job take it.

There will be the period of the new surroundings and learning the new roll to keep you challenged until you relax and become consumed by the politics of the new situation, then it all starts all over again! :shit:

Before long you will be back on here, unhappy, applying for new jobs and asking for guidance!

Take the new job and little period of happiness that it will bring you and there is always the chance that you just might gel and work your way up to the top of the grade, beyond where you are now!

You have always struck me as an alert, sharp wee cookie, so back yourself and have a change for a while, change, they say, is as good as a rest! :yes:

Of course the final decision is yours, all the best, good luck with whatever you decide.

[Stirts]

If you are unhappy where you are and you get the offer of the new job take it.

It really is as simple as that isn't it.


Before long you will be back on here, unhappy, applying for new jobs and asking for guidance!

On On how to kill a work colleague you mean.


Take the new job and little period of happiness that it will bring you and there is always the chance that you just might gel and work your way up to the top of the grade, beyond where you are now!

have a change for a while, change, they say, is as good as a rest!

Oh you wise luffly man you - Thank you

[Laava]

Job? Thems fighting words up here!

Sorry, that is as constuctive as I can be!

[Swoop]

Fuck sakes woman!

Gubbinment job = more time on KB!

:shifty:

[schrodingers cat]

Depends a bit on your age and where you're at in yourself.
Interestingly Gen X (if you fit here) is tipified by their preparedness to move around to benefit themselves i.e more money or learn new things

Sometimes the appeal of being offered a job is that someone loves you...
Put the hard word on them at your current work and ask what the deal is re the future and let them know you have an offer. Tell them you're not interested in BS so tell the truth.
Their response may make the decision easy.


Otherwise, yes. Get the blue bike.

[neels]

Gubbinment job = more time on KB!
Works for me.

Well, SOE to be precise but it's basically the same thing.

[HenryDorsetCase]

This is Tauranga we are talking about, walk down to The Strand on a Friday and you can get that shit for free :D

any particular part of the Strand? enquiring minds....

I say go for it.

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[Number One]

It really is as simple as that isn't it.

erm just quietly - I used to think otherwise....I don't now and I would never stay somewhere I wasn't happy again....work ain't worth your health and sanity!

Good luck chick :sunny:

[AD345]

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[rustic101]

$26.00 per annum shy of what I am earning currently and I have a feeling they are not going to budge on this start point :mellow: Now for those that have worked in large organisations or a government department will understand that roles are generally “salary banded” – this jobbie has 10 levels in the band and the offer sits at level 4.


Its not all about the money, what are the other benefits, TOIL, compensatory time, sick leave etc etc.

I've been in Govt 25 plus years first with NZDF as a Serviceman, and now with my current employer ;)

The money, certainly in my early years was shit I started on about 9K a year lol. However over time I have learnt that there is more on hand than just money :)

[Pussy]

Can you drive a tractor?
Don't mind the smell of kerosene?
Got a strong right arm?

I think there is still an opening for a turbine rated ag pilot in the 'Naki, Tina! :niceone:

[LBD]

Its the money...

D ya think I would be living in this backwater with shite roads, no bike and drivers from hell for any other reasons?

To assist clear thinking on a cloudy day I make lists...one job on one page the other on another. Write down all the positives for each job....if there is a negitive such as "Swoop works in the same office"...make it a positive on the other job..."Swoop does not work here"

Include everything small and large that could have a factor....social club, transport convenience, chance for promotion, may involve more or lest time away etc.

When the lists are good and long weight the different points 1(a minor concern) to a max of 5 (The main reason you want to change) If you can include a 5 for the job your heart wants, 5 for what your head says and 5 for gut feel.

You could add the same 3 x 5 pointers for your significant others opinion

[Genie]

Gotta be happy in your daily life otherwise what is the point?

Where are the challenges, they're always good.

You say you need busy, then go with the busy.

The dollars will always go up when you need them too.

You'll make the best decision for you, if it does happen to be the 'wrong' one then well, at least you've tried something....all the best chickie!!!:sunny:

[shafty]

Congrats on the job offer!

Don't estimate the "creep" effect of annual salary reviews, -- like compounding interest.

Somtimes priv/publically owned companies get the squeeze with hard times and that can affect the morale and work stress big time, whereas an SOE, while it works within budgets etc, will never bounce cheques!

Have fun, shout yourself something 'bike like'!

[DMNTD]

I just bought a new lounge suite but there's an opening for a foot stool, Teenie.

Oh look...this one came with a vagina prepared earlier


http://www.freewebs.com/thenewchinkyworkshop/FootstoolConnie2.JPG

[Pixie]

I just bought a new lounge suite but there's an opening for a foot stool, Teenie.

Oh look...this one came with a vagina prepared earlier


It's a Vachairna!!!

[Stirts]

Thanks to you lot, my "significant other" and a PM from someone who shared her experience, my head is cleared. What was really nagging at me was not the money at all, it was in fact the
position I was placed in – looking for another job sparked up some very real fears - am I jumping from the fry pan into the fire so to speak….all the unknowns just got on top of me.

But I have accepted the position and am now nervous, fidgety, frightened and excited all at the same time time!!

Thanks again.

And DMNTD.... I am feeding Gordie up on KFC and there will be a big jobbie for you!!!

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[2wheeldrifter]

That's great! would really like to have helped you out with some real good advise etc... all I can think of is..... you have ONE advantage over me, you can kiss my ass and I can't!!

GOOD LUCK

[avgas]

So when do you start dressing like a cop ;)

[DMNTD]

So when do you start dressing like a cop ;)

Mate....she's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too short!

[Stirts]

That's great! would really like to have helped you out with some real good advise etc... all I can think of is..... you have ONE advantage over me, you can kiss my ass and I can't!!

I don't kiss arseface. :bleh:


So when do you start dressing like a cop ;)


Mate....she's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too short!

I am coming after you ....

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[DMNTD]

I am coming after you ....


Bring it Oooompa!

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[mashman]

Thanks to you lot, my "significant other" and a PM from someone who shared her experience, my head is cleared. What was really nagging at me was not the money at all, it was in fact the position I was placed in – looking for another job sparked up some very real fears - am I jumping from the fry pan into the fire so to speak….all the unknowns just got on top of me.

But I have accepted the position and am now nervous, fidgety, frightened and excited all at the same time time!!

Thanks again.


Honestly, the above could be taken completely out of context Roooooxanne :shifty: i've never wanted to be an unkown as much in my life :shifty:...

[Stirts]

Bring it Oooompa!

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_y5VWet_LZI/0.jpg


Honestly, the above could be taken completely out of context Roooooxanne :shifty: i've never wanted to be an unkown as much in my life :shifty:...

That condition of yours isn't getting any better is it.

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[oldrider]

Thanks to you lot, my "significant other" and a PM from someone who shared her experience, my head is cleared. What was really nagging at me was not the money at all, it was in fact the
position I was placed in – looking for another job sparked up some very real fears - am I jumping from the fry pan into the fire so to speak….all the unknowns just got on top of me.

But I have accepted the position and am now nervous, fidgety, frightened and excited all at the same time time!!

Enjoy the feeling, you have just kicked yourself out of your comfort zone! :yes:

"Anxiety:", Try to control and manage anxiety skilfully!

Controlled anxiety is the "incentive" that drives us forward to seek higher personal achievement! :shifty:

Devoid of "anxiety" individuals risk becoming susceptible to "comfort traps", or even worse, may become "tempted to settle for mediocrity"! :sick:

Then again, if you freely accept less than your highest personal standards or goals in life, you are very likely to succeed. :mellow:

Congratulations and good luck! :niceone:

[Genie]

So when do you start...you know you now have to keep us all updated on how it goes for you...well me at least!

[Stirts]

So when do you start...you know you now have to keep us all updated on how it goes for you...well me at least!

23rd of August is my first day :woohoo: Although the "offical" agreement has not yet been sent to me :rolleyes: I am sure there won't be anything sinister in the terms and conditions of the agreement.

No more "your pants are too baggy" "your pants are too noisy" "your pants are too long" "your pants are inappropriate" :finger:

[Swoop]

Although the "offical" agreement has not yet been sent to me...
Government speed...
It'll get there. At some stage!:shifty:

You can't rush these things.

[Genie]

23rd of August is my first day :woohoo: Although the "offical" agreement has not yet been sent to me :rolleyes: I am sure there won't be anything sinister in the terms and conditions of the agreement.

No more "your pants are too baggy" "your pants are too noisy" "your pants are too long" "your pants are inappropriate" :finger:

I'm gathering that there is some problem with your pants....perhaps on your last day you could wear none at all:innocent:

[Stirts]

Government speed...
It'll get there. At some stage!:shifty:

You can't rush these things.

:laugh: too true. I am expecting it to be in the mail either today or tomorrow, any sooner I would've been shocked and stunned!

[Stirts]

I'm gathering that there is some problem with your pants....perhaps on your last day you could wear none at all:innocent:

:rofl: now there is an idea. Blinding them with my psychedelic white legs is a bit too mean though.

[Swoop]

:laugh: too true. I am expecting it to be in the mail either today or tomorrow, any sooner I would've been shocked and stunned!
Please calm down!
We do not need you being "shocked" or "stunned".

Specifically prohibited under the Government Worker's Handbook.
Rule 103.2.(c).


Behave yourself.
This will be a final warning.

[Genie]

:rofl: now there is an idea. Blinding them with my psychedelic white legs is a bit too mean though.

white legs are the height of fashion...the pastier the better...if you know what I mean...

oops, wrong thread. I seem to have that one stuck in my head :slap:

[Stirts]

Behave yourself.
This will be a final warning.

:gob: have we met?!


white legs are the height of fashion...the pastier the better...if you know what I mean...

White? Pasty? Hun, mine are see through!!!

[mashman]

white legs are the height of fashion...the pastier the better...if you know what I mean...


they also double as a night light :)

Congrats Stirts...

[Stirts]

they also double as a night light :)

A Visual Docking Guidance System ..... if you know what I mean.


Congrats Stirts...

Ta very muchly.

[DMNTD]

A Visual Docking Guidance System .....

For what? Low flying aircraft? :shifty:

[mashman]

A Visual Docking Guidance System ..... if you know what I mean.


:rofl: ... it was dark... her legs lit the way... their lips met... she closed her legs and crushed his glasses...

[Stirts]

For what? Low flying aircraft? :shifty:

Of course .... guiding a "deadstick" is not much fun!


:rofl: ... it was dark... her legs lit the way... their lips met... she closed her legs and crushed his glasses...

:killingme

Apparently I must spread some before giving it to mashman again.

[Genie]

Of course .... guiding a "deadstick" is not much fun!



:killingme

Apparently I must spread some before giving it to mashman again.

I too must spread it around before giving it to Mashman again....KB Slut

[crazyhorse]

Congratulations on your new appointment Stirts. I am sure a change is as good as a holiday. I wish we in HB had more choices as you do. Things are really hard here and jobs are still being lost due to the economy.

I wish you well - I am sure you will enjoy it and be fine :sunny:

[Stirts]

Congratulations on your new appointment Stirts. I am sure a change is as good as a holiday. I wish we in HB had more choices as you do. Things are really hard here and jobs are still being lost due to the economy.

I wish you well - I am sure you will enjoy it and be fine :sunny:

Thanks Chick. Tauranga is still very much affected by the economy too, and sadly people are still losing their jobs. In the idustry I am currently working in, I am fully aware that nationwide, businesses are still struggling/running on bank overdrafts and some are about to close. There is sweet f.a to apply for and when you do, it seems there a couple of 100-odd applications following suit.

I am just very, very lucky.

[crazyhorse]

Thanks Chick. Tauranga is still very much affected by the economy too, and sadly people are still losing their jobs. In the idustry I am currently working in, I am fully aware that nationwide, businesses are still struggling/running on bank overdrafts and some are about to close. There is sweet f.a to apply for and when you do, it seems there a couple of 100-odd applications following suit.

I am just very, very lucky.

Lucky or not.... congratulations. A job well deserved. I just hope I don't have to sell my bike or house to keep on doing what I am.... but hey, thats just a gamble with what I do. Good luck all the same

[mashman]

Of course .... guiding a "deadstick" is not much fun!

:rofl: that can't spread rep thing is catching...

[Genie]

Speaking of career moves.....My new employer - the Ministry of Education - has discovered that I once was one of those office chickie things.....offered me more work....life just gets better.

Though my poor bike has been a little neglected....did pop down and hug it today....with my thighs. Oh and I bought me some new riding gear....gotta love shopping!

[2wheeldrifter]

Speaking of career moves.....My new employer - the Ministry of Education - has discovered that I once was one of those office chickie things.....offered me more work....life just gets better.

Though my poor bike has been a little neglected....did pop down and hug it today....with my thighs. Oh and I bought me some new riding gear....gotta love shopping!

oh the happiness a set of thighs can bring.... mmmmm

[Stirts]

Speaking of career moves.....My new employer - the Ministry of Education - has discovered that I once was one of those office chickie things.....offered me more work....life just gets better.

Though my poor bike has been a little neglected....did pop down and hug it today....with my thighs. Oh and I bought me some new riding gear....gotta love shopping!

Don't you hate it when work gets in the way of riding. Congrats Chick, hope you asked for a payrise for all that new riding gear :niceone:


oh the happeness a set of thighs can bring.... mmmmm

Yes you do look happy!!
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[one fast tl1ooo]

oh the happeness a set of thighs can bring.... mmmmm

heres 2wheeldrifter in his happy place

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sorry man i said i lost the photos but lol here you are

[2wheeldrifter]

Sorry ladies and Gentleman.. had to eat me way out of this mess...... like a pig in shit :yes:

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