Your guess for the top five at Laguna Seca? [Archive]

Crasherfromwayback

23rd July 2010, 18:30

stoner
lorenzo
pedrosa
spies
rossi

should be a bloody good race whatever the result, probably my favorite circuit to watch.

I was lucky enough to have been there in 07, and it's even better in the flesh! That's where I first saw Spies ride. Him and Mladin gapped the superbike field by 10 seconds within two laps. He looked to me then like someone to watch out for.

gixerracer

23rd July 2010, 18:40

stoner
pedro
lorenzo
rossi
spies
hayden

no particular order

Crasherfromwayback

23rd July 2010, 18:43

Hayden and Spies are both paying $25.00 if anyone fancies a long shot dabble!

rachprice

23rd July 2010, 18:53

hmmmm

Pedrosa - Because he seems to be riding well the past couple and he won there last year
Stoner - Because he seems to be getting better and it is a track he normally does well at
Lorenzo - He was third last year and it is such a technical track
Spies - home track and I think he will go apeshit
Hayden - will do well but I reckon spies will get him

blackdog

23rd July 2010, 18:54

lorenzo
pedrosa
rossi

stoner 2 crash out with dovizioso

then spies, hayden and edwards

Deano

23rd July 2010, 19:01

Pedrosa

Lorenzo

Spies

Stoner

Hayden

bogan

23rd July 2010, 19:01

I was lucky enough to have been there in 07, and it's even better in the flesh! That's where I first saw Spies ride. Him and Mladin gapped the superbike field by 10 seconds within two laps. He looked to me then like someone to watch out for.

yeh i'll get there one day, may be they are all riding electrics by that time though :shit:

Cleve

23rd July 2010, 19:15

1st Lorenzo (unless he crashes - he is yet to this season)
2nd Pedrosa (a man getting into some form lately)
3rd Rossi or Stoner (both getting their mojo back)
5th Spies (unless any of the above crash)

TOTO

23rd July 2010, 19:16

Pedrosa
Rossi
Stoner
Spies
Dovi

:2guns: Lorenzo CRASHED OUT !!!

carbonhed

23rd July 2010, 19:34

Pedrosa
Lorenzo
Stoner
Rossi
Dovizioso
Hayden
Simoncelli
Spies

Case of beer

suzukimechanic

23rd July 2010, 19:35

Pedrosa
Lorenzo
Rossi
Stoner
Dovizioso
"Cappirossi"

one fast tl1ooo

23rd July 2010, 19:38

pedrosa
rossi
lorenzo
Hayden
spies

stoner he will crash out. as per nom he will lose the front :bye:

NZsarge

23rd July 2010, 19:40

George
Pip squeak
Moaner
The Doctor
Elbows

Hoping the Stoner and Pedrosa will have problems and Spies will take 3rd to make it an all Yamaha podium. :Punk:

Crasherfromwayback

23rd July 2010, 19:40

Case of beer

Case of beer to cancel a case of beeer! Cause lets face it...ain't NO way Edwards is gonna beat Spies this season!

rachprice

23rd July 2010, 19:43

Pedrosa
Lorenzo
Stoner
Rossi
Dovizioso
Hayden
Simoncelli
Spies

Case of beer

You reckon Simoncelli who has never raced Laguna will beat Spies at his home track???

NZsarge

23rd July 2010, 19:44

You reckon Simoncelli who has never raced Laguna will beat Spies at his home track???

Yeah I was thinking... "I doubt it!"

rachprice

23rd July 2010, 19:52

Yeah I was thinking... "I doubt it!"

As much as I dislike the guy, he has been riding well....but not that welll!

NZsarge

23rd July 2010, 20:37

As much as I dislike the guy, he has been riding well....but not that welll!

Going on this seasons form so far Spies has been quicker for the most part anyway and all things going well I don't see Fro boy beating Elbows in his own back yard...

rachprice

23rd July 2010, 20:39

I concur....

cowpoos

23rd July 2010, 21:25

Spies

Stoner

Hayden

Lorenzo

Dovi

Rossi's leg will be worse there than Germany because of the load the corkscrew etc will place on it.

6th for him.

Reckon??....need some Horse's for laguna...won't see any satalite teams near the top.

Pedro, Rossi , jorge , stoner....in that order...thats How I would bet....what I would love to see...stoner, Spies , melandri , Jorge.

carbonhed

23rd July 2010, 22:14

Case of beer to cancel a case of beeer! Cause lets face it...ain't NO way Edwards is gonna beat Spies this season!

I'll never forgive Edwards for this shit! How you go from first non alien to this garbage bewilders me.

Spies had the bike to perform at the Sachsenring. He got 8th out of twelve. Put iit in Moto 2 terms and that's 24th out of 36. Fucking rubbish whichever way you slice it.

I'll be staggered if he puts it on the podium. But then I have been staggered before :yes:

Go Marco Simoncelli!

Crasherfromwayback

23rd July 2010, 23:21

I'll never forgive Edwards for this shit! How you go from first non alien to this garbage bewilders me.

Spies had the bike to perform at the Sachsenring. He got 8th out of twelve. Put iit in Moto 2 terms and that's 24th out of 36. Fucking rubbish whichever way you slice it.

I'll be staggered if he puts it on the podium. But then I have been staggered before :yes:

Go Marco Simoncelli!

Yeah Spies had a bad one there I agree. Not as bad as Edwards though!:shutup:

Simoncelli ain't never raced there so he'll be lucky to be in the top ten on his first visit mate!

I found it daunting just walking round it.

rachprice

23rd July 2010, 23:25

roogazza

24th July 2010, 08:41

I havent seen simoncelli on the podium

Rate of progress and talent suggest it'll happen ?

Front three Pedro, Horhay and Goat in any order, with Lactose and the two yanks the next three. G.

White trash

24th July 2010, 09:20

Rate of progress and talent suggest it'll happen ?

Front three Pedro, Horhay and Goat in any order, with Lactose and the two yanks the next three. G.

Ricky Carmichael's the GOAT mate. Pretty sure he aint riding at Laguna but you've proved me wrong in the past.

roogazza

24th July 2010, 09:57

Ricky Carmichael's the GOAT mate. Pretty sure he aint riding at Laguna but you've proved me wrong in the past.
Yes he is, I don't know who gave the name to Rossi ? But I just couldn't bring myself to call him Monkeyboy !

rachprice

24th July 2010, 10:11

Rate of progress and talent suggest it'll happen ?

Front three Pedro, Horhay and Goat in any order, with Lactose and the two yanks the next three. G.

Oh for sure....he is talented and is doing very well but I still think Spies is ahead of him and will continue to be

eelracing

24th July 2010, 20:59

Oh for sure....he is talented and is doing very well but I still think Spies is ahead of him and will continue to be

Not for to much longer...:shifty:

MVnut

24th July 2010, 21:40

Stoner Hayden Pedrosa Rossi Lorenzo

pritch

24th July 2010, 21:59

Stoner
Lorenzo
Rossi
The dwarf
Spies

JayRacer37

24th July 2010, 23:10

Reckon??....need some Horse's for laguna...won't see any satalite teams near the top.

Pedro, Rossi , jorge , stoner....in that order...thats How I would bet....what I would love to see...stoner, Spies , melandri , Jorge.

Jeez Poo's, you confusing Laguna with Phillip Island? Not much use for Horses with no straight bits. Honda should be good cos it looks like its working well off the corner - but Dozi and Pedro arn't the right riders for a track like LS. Nicky's having a good year and its HIS track. Spies will be looking to impress. Pedro will be baffled again by track going up, down, left, right and blind. Stoner could be strong. Rossi will be hurting. No-one else is in the game.

Lorenzo
Spies
Hayden
Stoner
Rossi

BMWST?

24th July 2010, 23:29

the way dovi been going i reckon he could be good at laguna,he aint afraid to throw the honda round.

Stoner horgay dovi rossi spies/hayden

Crasherfromwayback

25th July 2010, 12:02

Jeez Poo's, you confusing Laguna with Phillip Island? Not much use for Horses with no straight bits. Honda should be good cos it looks like its working well off the corner - but Dozi and Pedro arn't the right riders for a track like LS. Nicky's having a good year and its HIS track. Spies will be looking to impress. Pedro will be baffled again by track going up, down, left, right and blind. Stoner could be strong. Rossi will be hurting. No-one else is in the game.

Hate to tell you this mate..but Phillip Island isn't a horse power track either. A horse power track has slow corners leading on to straights. Think Manfeild. Phillip Island has only one real straight...and while long...the last corner is as fast as fuck leading onto it. The rest of the track is fast flowing corners. Think back to Jeremy McWilliams putting the slow as fuck Modenas (or whatever the heap of shit was called) V3 on pole in 2002 or there abouts?

Secondly...if you think Pedrosa can't handle the up and down of Laguna (again)...how do you reckon he managed to win there last year?

Ivan

25th July 2010, 12:20

Hayden

Stoner

Simoncelli

Dovi

Rossi

Crasherfromwayback

25th July 2010, 12:25

Hayden

Stoner

Simoncelli

Dovi

Rossi

Mate...Simoncelli has never been there before. He's gonna have his arse served to him on a plate.

rachprice

25th July 2010, 12:27

second row spies you little champ

Ivan

25th July 2010, 18:17

White trash

25th July 2010, 18:37

being there before means nothing????

Everyone always goes on about SPies never being there before and learning the circuit look at superbikeslast year so I think the Simoncelli comment never been there before is irrelevent plus in qualifying he looked very smooth and in control and seemed to be doing well he has a rding style much like Rossi's I think alot of them were on the very limit of falling off so will be worth seeing how the race gets on with the fast but smooth riders

Jesus mate. Get some puncuation added to that keyboard of yours will ya? Cheers

rachprice

25th July 2010, 18:45

I think because this track is so technical having been there before will definitely be an advantage

Though Simoncelli looked ok in qualifying

Crasherfromwayback

25th July 2010, 19:34

being there before means nothing????

Everyone always goes on about SPies never being there before and learning the circuit look at superbikeslast year so I think the Simoncelli comment never been there before is irrelevent plus in qualifying he looked very smooth and in control and seemed to be doing well he has a rding style much like Rossi's I think alot of them were on the very limit of falling off so will be worth seeing how the race gets on with the fast but smooth riders

I don't rate Simoncelli as much as I do Spies though...hence the 'new track' comment. I bet you anything you like Simoncelli's Honda is a better/faster race bike than Spies Yamaha...and Spies is learning new tracks again. Yet how badly is Spies beating Simoncelli in the championship so far?

End of story.

Rcktfsh

25th July 2010, 19:57

Ivan

25th July 2010, 20:46

I am not against Spies I think he is a grea rider but I think some of the other rookies are just as good Simoncelli is a 250 GP world champion Spies is a superbike they are both rookies and I think are both just as good as one another

I was actually hoping Roger Lee Hayden would have been up there as he is a bloody marvellous rider

sosman

25th July 2010, 21:12

Stoner.

Whorehey.

Pedrobot.

Elbowz.

Vale.

Devistz

denill

26th July 2010, 08:08

stoner
lorenzo
pedrosa
spies
rossi

should be a bloody good race whatever the result, probably my favorite circuit to watch.

Exactly as I see it.:yes::yes:

Crasherfromwayback

26th July 2010, 08:29

Seeing as Spies is 8th in the championship and Simoncelli 9th not that badly.
A bit of a reminder how freakish Kenny Roberts efforts in winning the 78 championship was seeing as it was his first time in Europe.

8th and 9th doesn't really tell the story though does it? Spies has had a dnf that wasn't his fault.

Spies has also been on the podium.

Biggles08

26th July 2010, 08:38

lorenzo
rossi
pedrosa
stoner
Devistz

Not sure about the Rossi / Pedrosa battle tho. I will put a excuse clause in here Too...As I write this I haven't seen the grid positions from qual so guessing blind. I'm not sure Spies will make the cut despite popular opinion.

Warr

26th July 2010, 11:51

Victory for Lorenzo at Laguna Seca extends Championship lead

The Fiat Yamaha rider won his sixth race of the 2010 campaign at the Red Bull U.S. Grand Prix after Dani Pedrosa crashed out when leading. Second place for Casey Stoner marked his best result of the season so far, whilst Valentino Rossi finished an admirable third.
Shock horror eh ...Dani made 21 laps before he circumed. Sounds like a good race .. have to find a copy :)

Rcktfsh

26th July 2010, 12:29

Shock horror eh ...Dani made 21 laps before he circumed. Sounds like a good race .. have to find a copy :)

Race had its moments mainly exciting for the minor places though, Rossi looked completely knackered at the end and gave it his all hunting down and passing Dovi in the final stages, give me a buzz if you want a copy pm with number sent.

blackdog

26th July 2010, 19:36

lorenzo
pedrosa
rossi

stoner 2 crash out with dovizioso

then spies, hayden and edwards

first and third

not bad with the next 3 though;)

carbonhed

26th July 2010, 19:45

Pedrosa
Lorenzo
Stoner
Rossi
Dovizioso
Hayden
Simoncelli
Spies

Case of beer

Well for a little while there I was looking Godlike... but wound up just OK.

WTF happened Spies fans? Home track, home fans, bike that should have been on the front row. 6th out of 12. Thank fuck Pedro crashed and De Puniet was injured.

Still he didn't look as big a knob when he got amongst the good guys this time so maybe there's hope when he gets on a factory machine.

rachprice

26th July 2010, 20:01

Well for a little while there I was looking Godlike... but wound up just OK.

WTF happened Spies fans? Home track, home fans, bike that should have been on the front row. 6th out of 12. Thank fuck Pedro crashed and De Puniet was injured.

Still he didn't look as big a knob when he got amongst the good guys this time so maybe there's hope when he gets on a factory machine.

Didnt you say Edwards was gonna beat Spies??

And for sure Spies screwed up, but he passed Hayden and was dicing with rossi, and pushed it a little hard and made a mistake but he will only get better with more experience with the big boys!

Crasherfromwayback

26th July 2010, 20:15

WTF happened Spies fans? Home track, home fans, bike that should have been on the front row. 6th out of 12. Thank fuck Pedro crashed and De Puniet was injured.

Still he didn't look as big a knob when he got amongst the good guys this time so maybe there's hope when he gets on a factory machine.

Don't think he's ever looked like a knob! I thought he'd go better than he did for sure...but I'd hardly call what he did bad. 19 seconds down from the winner...on a satelite bike in your first season? Not too shabby.

Call it even on the beer front.

rachprice

26th July 2010, 20:17

Well for a little while there I was looking Godlike... but wound up just OK.

WTF happened Spies fans? Home track, home fans, bike that should have been on the front row. 6th out of 12. Thank fuck Pedro crashed and De Puniet was injured.

Still he didn't look as big a knob when he got amongst the good guys this time so maybe there's hope when he gets on a factory machine.

Plus Spies was way ahead of Simoncelli even before Simoncelli crashed!

speed63

26th July 2010, 20:38

Reality check today which showed that there is daylight between the top 4 and the Merican Superbike riders. All the hype about Spies could haunt the guy into becoming the new Mr Edwards.

carbonhed

26th July 2010, 20:43

Don't think he's ever looked like a knob! I thought he'd go better than he did for sure...but I'd hardly call what he did bad. 19 seconds down from the winner...on a satelite bike in your first season? Not too shabby.

Call it even on the beer front.

Edwards could fight back... meh... maybe not.

Maybe "knob"was a little harsh but I don't think the Tech III bike was very "satellite" this weekend.

Spies is 26, Renzo and Simoncelli 23, Dovi 24, Pedro and Stoner 25. He's picked a really bad time to arrive. Stoner on a Honda will be frightening and he's going to be teammate to Lorenzo... I fear for his mental health.

Crasherfromwayback

26th July 2010, 20:56

Reality check today which showed that there is daylight between the top 4 and the Merican Superbike riders. All the hype about Spies could haunt the guy into becoming the new Mr Edwards.

Can't see that happening. Did you ever see Edwards dominate the Superbike scene like Spies did?

but I don't think the Tech III bike was very "satellite" this weekend.

Spies is 26, Renzo and Simoncelli 23, Dovi 24, Pedro and Stoner 25. He's picked a really bad time to arrive. Stoner on a Honda will be frightening and he's going to be teammate to Lorenzo... I fear for his mental health.

Yeah I think his bike look more competitive for sure. Bout time too. I also agree that it's a tough time to arrive in moto GP...no wonder he didn't want to wait another year! I think he'll find his way though. He seems smart enough to learn things pretty quickly.

I also agree Stoner on the Honda will be nasty for him (and everyone else).

Right now though...Lorenzo is on another planet from the other aliens.

BMWST?

26th July 2010, 21:19

Well for a little while there I was looking Godlike... but wound up just OK.

WTF happened Spies fans? Home track, home fans, bike that should have been on the front row. 6th out of 12. Thank fuck Pedro crashed and De Puniet was injured.

Still he didn't look as big a knob when he got amongst the good guys this time so maybe there's hope when he gets on a factory machine.

he was going really wel but went in too deep into the corner onto the front straight lost a lot of time

speed63

26th July 2010, 22:05

[QUOTE=Crasherfromwayback;1129820614]Can't see that happening. Did you ever see Edwards dominate the Superbike scene like Spies did?

For sure and Edwards won more than one title.

speed63

26th July 2010, 22:18

[QUOTE=Crasherfromwayback;1129820614]Can't see that happening. Did you ever see Edwards dominate the Superbike scene like Spies did?

For the record':

Edwards in 2002 beat a tough World champion called Bayliss:

Eleven race wins
Five pole positions
Twelve front row starts
Recorded the Castrol Honda team's 50th race win race one at Oschersleben
Recorded the most number of podium finishes in a season 25 (Previous best Doug Polen, 21 in 1991)
Recorded the most race wins for Castrol Honda in a year - 11 (Previous best John Kocinski, nine in 1997)
Recorded the most successive race wins in a season - 9 (Previous best Troy Bayliss, six in 2002)
Recorded the most successive podium finishes - 25 (Previous best Carl Fogarty, 12 in 1995 and 1999)
Set a new record of double wins for a Castrol Honda rider - 8 (Previous best Aaron Slight / John Kocinski two each)
Set a new record of all-time wins for a Castrol Honda rider - 31 (Previous best Aaron Slight, 11)
Recorded the 20th double win for Honda Assen, Holland
Recorded the 100th win by USA riders in World Superbike race two at Oschersleben
Set a new record of pole positions for a Castrol Honda rider 13 (Previous best Aaron Slight, six)
Colin Edwards Castrol Honda World Superbike record
1998 5th 279.5 points
1999 2nd 361
2000 1st 400
2001 2nd 333
2002 1st 552

Fairly dominant I would say

SS90

26th July 2010, 22:45

For the record':

...............

Fairly dominant I would say

I think that "dominant" is a matter of perception.

I don't see those figures as "Dominant", rather I see them as "consistent"

Dominant would be having the championship wrapped up 3/4 of the way through the season, and setting Pole 90% of the time in my opinion.

Even in MotoGP Edwards is simply "consistent", he doesn't set he world on fire, he finishes most races in the top 10, and is smooth and controlled.

I see dominant riders as guys like Doohan, Agostini, Rossi, Merkel, Foggarty, and Coppins (no specific order or discipline)

Just as in NZ I would see Stroud as dominant.

I believe Edwards won the 2 championships because he was consistant, had a team (Castrol Honda) that, after so many years being the bridesmaids, pulled out all the stops for the win.

Dominant? Not in my book, determined more like.

rachprice

27th July 2010, 07:44

Yeah no one is saying that Edwards isn't good, though he has definitely done a lot better than he currently is

Anyway, Im a shameless Spies lover

Ben Spies 6th - 77 points

"I got a really good start and was third but then for the next couple of laps I just couldn't get my speed up fast enough. The group in front pulled a bit of a gap on me but once I found my rhythm I caught Nicky and Valentino pretty quickly. I passed Nicky and got right on the back of Valentino and it was a good fight with him. I was actually going to attack him on the next lap when I had a problem entering the final corner on lap 25. I ran wide and lost out and although it wasn't the podium I wanted in front of my home crowd, I'm happy because I had the speed to come through the field and I had the speed to be on the podium. I couldn't quite finish the job and that was down to me. But I'd rather leave here knowing I could have been on the podium rather than leave here in eighth place and not on the pace. I can't ask for a lot more because I'm in the top six again, leading non-factory rider in the race again and putting up a strong fight, so I'm not too upset."

Crasherfromwayback

27th July 2010, 08:44

For the record':

1998 5th 279.5 points
1999 2nd 361
2000 1st 400
2001 2nd 333
2002 1st 552

Fairly dominant I would say

Then Spies came along and won the title in his FIRST ever season. Took Edwards three seasons mate.

Now Spies is kicking Edwards's ass in his FIRST season of Moto GP. On the SAME bike...in the SAME team...at tracks he's never seen AGAIN.

So you still think Edwards is as good as Spies?

Tui.

denill

27th July 2010, 09:29

[QUOTE=Crasherfromwayback;1129820614]Can't see that happening. Did you ever see Edwards dominate the Superbike scene like Spies did? For sure and Edwards won more than one title.

It's a no-brainer really.

There is no way Edwards will win a MotoGP race, no matter what he's riding.

No one would say the same about Spies.............. :mellow:

Drew

27th July 2010, 11:08

So you still think Edwards is as good as Spies?

Tui.He's not as cool though.

Pissing with rain at qatar, "Lets go get a beer". Nice one Collin.

Crasherfromwayback

27th July 2010, 11:17

He'll be getting plenty of chances to drink beer shortly mate.

codgyoleracer

27th July 2010, 11:56

I also suspect that Spies is uber-fit, - as he definatley has strengths later in the race over others.
I was quite impressed with those last few laps from Haybale - fending off Bigben who fancied his chances at re-overhailing him.

speed63

27th July 2010, 13:44

I love the comments on here and how they are interpreted by some aggressive one eyedness lol

I never said Edwards is better than Spies, just that Colin deserves some respect , and sure he has not done well in GP in fact I am not a fan but from what Drew said I should be .

I just commented that Spies is under the spotlight and has a long way to go. Spies is good and refreshing for the image of the sport......tis all:yes:

merv

27th July 2010, 14:26

Then Spies came along and won the title in his FIRST ever season. Took Edwards three seasons mate.

Don't forget Edwards started WSB on the Yamaha in 1995 so he actually won his titles on the Honda in his 6th and 8th years.

Crasherfromwayback

27th July 2010, 14:29

I never said Edwards is better than Spies, just that Colin deserves some respect , and sure he has not done well in GP in fact I am not a fan but from what Drew said I should be .

I respect anyone that races at that level. Just respect some more than others.

Oscar

27th July 2010, 14:31

Then Spies came along and won the title in his FIRST ever season. Took Edwards three seasons mate.

Now Spies is kicking Edwards's ass in his FIRST season of Moto GP. On the SAME bike...in the SAME team...at tracks he's never seen AGAIN.

So you still think Edwards is as good as Spies?

Tui.

Jeez, you don't half get excited about your latest boyfriend.
When did you fall out of lurv with Casey?

Crasherfromwayback

27th July 2010, 14:45

Jeez, you don't half get excited about your latest boyfriend.
When did you fall out of lurv with Casey?

I've been a fan of Spies from the time I saw him ride at Laguna in '07'. Stoner still impresses me.

Who says I can't have more than one BF at a time anyway?

Oscar

27th July 2010, 15:21

Who says I can't have more than one BF at a time anyway?

Slut......

Crasherfromwayback

27th July 2010, 15:27

Slut......

Quite like chicks too.

Oscar

27th July 2010, 15:52

Quite like chicks too.

Casey and Ben and Chicks?

Pervert.

Maha

27th July 2010, 16:11

Cleve

27th July 2010, 16:23

[QUOTE=speed63;1129820704]

It's a no-brainer really.

There is no way Edwards will win a MotoGP race, no matter what he's riding.

No one would say the same about Spies.............. :mellow:

Really?! Edwards should have won in Assen a few years ago and last year at Donington was close. Another chaotic dry to wet race with crashes and he could do it... As for Spies - yes he is awesome - but he hasn't won one yet... so I for one wouldn't say that Spies will definitely win a MotoGp race.
But sure - in a who's more likely, Spies vs Edwards to win a MotoGP I think most people would say Spies.

Cleve

27th July 2010, 16:23

carbonhed

27th July 2010, 17:39

I was just looking at the lap times and trying to tie them into the period when Spies caught Rossi up. Rossi was doing 1:22:5's and Spies caught him up doing 1:22:4's. As soon as Spies got close enough to land a punch Rossi dropped it into the 1:22:2's Spies got ragged and blew out to 1:22:8 and then just about crashed and did a 1:24:8.

Three 1:22:2's got Rossi up to Dovi and he passed him on the next lap.

The "Doctor" really knows his shit doesn't he :yes:

Ivan

27th July 2010, 18:20

Rossi is a legend he can always find that bit extra and soon enough hell be putting it back to Lorenzo again

Im a massive Hayden fan and think he is great he never moans about the gear he always blames himself if something he does screws the race up

Also the Edwards Spies comments do you think if Bayliss was still out there last year Spies would have won??? I very much doubt it Bayliss is superbikes version of Rossi

Crasherfromwayback

27th July 2010, 18:34

I very much doubt it Bayliss is superbikes version of Rossi

Can't agree there sorry. Bayliss won a lot of his races due to the rules. Just like a lot of other Ducati racers have done. Sure he was good. Fantastic even. But he ain't no Rossi of Superbikes.

Drew

27th July 2010, 18:53

Can't agree there sorry. Bayliss won a lot of his races due to the rules. Just like a lot of other Ducati racers have done. Sure he was good. Fantastic even. But he ain't no Rossi of Superbikes.

I agree.

I dont think there has ever been a Rossi in any form of bike racing. He's the whole nine yards, from unbelievable talent on a bike, to great developer. And he's a born entertainer, a sponsors dream. Yamaha have made a very big mistake I think.

Ivan

27th July 2010, 22:10

also do not get me wrong spies is a good rider but i will stick to my statement if Bayliss was out there last year the title would have been different

Crasherfromwayback

28th July 2010, 08:20

also do not get me wrong spies is a good rider but i will stick to my statement if Bayliss was out there last year the title would have been different

It's easy to say that...but he wasn't and it doesn't matter. It would've been different if Spies didn't have 3 or 4 mechanical dnf's too...but he did, and was taken out twice by other riders.