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andy 101

29th July 2010, 21:53

So who is going to risk there mind and soul at the dead toad this year. The one thing I learned from last year is that it is a race to the startline to get on the front row, before the race starts.

flyingcr250

29th July 2010, 22:02

So who is going to risk there mind and soul at the dead toad this year. The one thing I learned from last year is that it is a race to the startline to get on the front row, before the race starts.

ha ha yea the trip down the road was a mini race in itself, when is it?

SpikedPunch

29th July 2010, 22:12

I'm hoping to do dead tadpole.

vazza

29th July 2010, 22:33

This is the event im most looking forward to.

I agree andy, thats what I learnt lastyear as well.

And try your hardest to not let people pass you in the last 20 metres

tony :angry:

tommorth

29th July 2010, 22:37

I'm keen as was great fun last year that little trip to the start was a great warm up the first hill after the start paddock was chaos

takitimu

30th July 2010, 07:04

That was awesome the pileup on that hill, I was late into it & took off up the bank on the right, passed a heap of people who take another hour to pass me back :).

cheese

30th July 2010, 22:17

Well I've been getting some practice on the JR50, so might go do it... LOL

billaroo

3rd August 2010, 15:19

Loop is around 30k and mostly new.
Vin (Vazza) helped us last weekend so we might have to put him in the Pro class....

vazza

3rd August 2010, 20:57

Lol im still a goon! Id struggle to get top3 in intermediate..Theres some fast cats in that class! I've only been back on the bike a few weeks!!:crazy:

flyingcr250

3rd August 2010, 21:08

Lol im still a goon! Id struggle to win intermediate.. :crazy:
ha ha ha whatever:scooter:

andy 101

3rd August 2010, 21:47

Lol im still a goon! Id struggle to get top3 in intermediate..Theres some fast cats in that class! I've only been back on the bike a few weeks!!:crazy:

I am still trying to bet my personal best of 18 th overall, in the dead toad, but that was 16yrs ago and one open heart surgery later, maybe aiming a bit high I think. My personal best maybe left at that.

Rupe

3rd August 2010, 22:00

I am still trying to bet my personal best of 18 th overall, in the dead toad, but that was 16yrs ago and one open heart surgery later, maybe aiming a bit high I think. My personal best maybe left at that.

I just want to beat barty5!!!

jt119

3rd August 2010, 23:10

I just want to beat barty5!!!

fingers crossed his bike brakes down then a

tommorth

4th August 2010, 17:59

fingers crossed his bike brakes down then a
hahaha I aiming to finish if Ii'm not last it will be an extra bonus

vazza

4th August 2010, 19:35

Tell ya what it's going to be a fantastic race, you'd be crazy not to do it. Gonna be epic.

cheese

4th August 2010, 22:06

hahaha I aiming to finish if Ii'm not last it will be an extra bonus

Looks like me and you having a mini race then. I'm so unfit...... and not been on my bike in months....

tommorth

5th August 2010, 19:31

Looks like me and you having a mini race then. I'm so unfit...... and not been on my bike in months....
i'm senseing a challange! I'm going to go eat some chips and to help myself prepare.

honda_power

5th August 2010, 20:41

looks like a good one... fucking student budget :bash:

tommorth

13th August 2010, 18:42

one day to go.....

cheese

13th August 2010, 19:55

I can't ride sunday, so going for a bast at the sandpit.

vazza

14th August 2010, 11:07

Should only be showers tomorrow at best. May get messy :P

barty5

15th August 2010, 16:20

was a good race / ride glad to hear i wasntr the only person who got momentarily lost in the section bout 5 min after the pits. was doing ok till my run in with a vine round my neck.

andy 101

15th August 2010, 17:13

I got a awsome start of the second row, second or third to turn one, then it was all downhill from there, I have never crashed so many times on the first lap in my life, the last one towards the end of the first lap done me in and I pulled out while in one piece. dissapionted to give up,but was not my day.

Rupe

15th August 2010, 17:24

was a good race / ride glad to hear i wasntr the only person who got momentarily lost in the section bout 5 min after the pits. was doing ok till my run in with a vine round my neck.

Yep got lost there too.

Was a good loop, gutted I had to pull out, but should of stayed home in the first place. There's always next year I guess.

vazza

15th August 2010, 19:11

Was a good race, very physically demanding. My back is killing me! I think something got rooted with my clutch cable, bike was playing up big time on the last lap. Didn't stop me from taking the intermediate win :D!! So stoked!

Haha andy I would have been right behind you at the start! I managed to scoot past about 3/4 riders about 100M after the start, followed the 1st rider for a while.

little.whittle

15th August 2010, 19:38

Was a good race, very physically demanding. My back is killing me! I think something got rooted with my clutch cable, bike was playing up big time on the last lap. Didn't stop me from taking the intermediate win :D!! So stoked!

Haha andy I would have been right behind you at the start! I managed to scoot past about 3/4 riders about 100M after the start, followed the 1st rider for a while.

I got the intermediate holeshop haha =] was a great track and day

honda_power

15th August 2010, 19:53

Was a good race, very physically demanding. My back is killing me! I think something got rooted with my clutch cable, bike was playing up big time on the last lap. Didn't stop me from taking the intermediate win :D!! So stoked!

Haha andy I would have been right behind you at the start! I managed to scoot past about 3/4 riders about 100M after the start, followed the 1st rider for a while.

nice bro. sounds like ill have some competition when ya come down here for a ride then? good shit dude

vazza

15th August 2010, 20:12

nice bro. sounds like ill have some competition when ya come down here for a ride then? good shit dude

Yeah bro defiantly! Got 2 more races over the next 2 weeks then ill be down :D

honda_power

15th August 2010, 21:37

so its a date then? sweet.

jt119

16th August 2010, 19:47

jt119

16th August 2010, 19:59

barty5

16th August 2010, 20:06

Nice moves by Rupe at 33secs 1.50 and 3.33

Ktmboy

16th August 2010, 20:39

Well I had a mixed race. Got the hole shot:yes: but got the dreaded cramps half way thru the first lap. Had to stop 3-4 times a lap to take a puff on the Anti cramp spray and had to pit every lap for enough time to eat a ham and cheese sandwich and half a bar of chocolate. A meal on the run.
My speed was good and fitness was OK but the cramps were killing me. Reckon I lost an easy 5 minutes because of them.
Something that pissed me off a bit was the failure of slower riders to make room for overtaking, especially in the tighter sections. But then they were probably getting pissed off that I'd pass them then stop for a shot of medicine. One guy I passed 7 times.
Just great to get out on the track again after so long.

Rupe

16th August 2010, 20:42

Nice moves by Rupe at 33secs 1.50 and 3.33

haha, was pretty slow going so if you see an opening take it! 3.33 was the result of a shortcut into a tree stump. I learnt those move following you by the way!!!

Anyway I think my 21hr lap time was a little off the pace, infact I'm still on my 2nd!

krad_nz

16th August 2010, 20:46

Hey thanks for the vids.

Ktmboy

16th August 2010, 20:49

haha, was pretty slow going so if you see an opening take it! 3.33 was the result of a shortcut into a tree stump. I learnt those move following you by the way!!!

Anyway I think my 21hr lap time was a little off the pace, infact I'm still on my 2nd!

Aren't you down as "Lost Band Guy 116"?

SpikedPunch

16th August 2010, 20:56

Haha, wondered who that was...

flyingcr250

16th August 2010, 20:57

barty5

16th August 2010, 20:59

Well I had a mixed race. Got the hole shot:yes: but got the dreaded cramps half way thru the first lap. Had to stop 3-4 times a lap to take a puff on the Anti cramp spray and had to pit every lap for enough time to eat a ham and cheese sandwich and half a bar of chocolate. A meal on the run.
My speed was good and fitness was OK but the cramps were killing me. Reckon I lost an easy 5 minutes because of them.
Something that pissed me off a bit was the failure of slower riders to make room for overtaking, especially in the tighter sections. But then they were probably getting pissed off that I'd pass them then stop for a shot of medicine. One guy I passed 7 times.
Just great to get out on the track again after so long.

You're right there was a heap of guys that just wouldn't move to the side and let you past I had a shit start when i caught up to Rupe we got caught behind 2 guys on KTMs for ages that where so dang slow but between them both took up every line to pass till they failed on a pathetically small hill.

Rupe

16th August 2010, 21:17

Aren't you down as "Lost Band Guy 116"?

No he pased me about 10mins in!

jt119

16th August 2010, 21:44

honda_power

16th August 2010, 22:04

jesus, theres some pretty blatant cheating going on

vazza

16th August 2010, 22:16

Results are up.
http://www.waitematamcc.co.nz/sites/default/files/results/Toad_2010_Overall.PDF

The guy who came 14th overall. His last lap he got a 47, rest of his laps were over 50minutes. Seems abit weird that someone can randomly be 3 minutes faster

t595

16th August 2010, 22:34

Results are up.
http://www.waitematamcc.co.nz/sites/default/files/results/Toad_2010_Overall.PDF

The guy who came 14th overall. His last lap he got a 47, rest of his laps were over 50minutes. Seems abit weird that someone can randomly be 3 minutes faster

he got stuck on the hill majorly the other 2 times,went the easy way last lap

jt119

16th August 2010, 23:11

Hey thanks for the vids.
cheers no worrys

tommorth

16th August 2010, 23:17

Results are up.
http://www.waitematamcc.co.nz/sites/default/files/results/Toad_2010_Overall.PDF

The guy who came 14th overall. His last lap he got a 47, rest of his laps were over 50minutes. Seems abit weird that someone can randomly be 3 minutes faster

maybe but i managed to do may last lap 5 minutes faster than my first two and I didn't cheat anywhere I did get lost on my second not long after the start didn't even realise until I started wontdering why there were no arrows and saw a few others backtracking, had bad arm pump for half the first lap then got stuck behind one very smoky ktm on one of those long uphills. Had a great day many thanks to the wmmc, acheived my goal of finishing and not coming last haha. Passed a few people on the hills and one through that big puddle, had a few stupid lowspeed offs which really seem to suck the energy. Almost made it up the hill by pits and saw a few loop it out big time there.

Those of you who winge about people not pulling over for you its a race everyone pays to be there why should they stop and make it easy for you htfu. I figure half the challenge is finding a way to make a pass If theres clear bit of track I'll pull to a side a bit so the person behind me can pass but get stuffed if I'm going bush in the twisty stuff for you.

jt119

16th August 2010, 23:27

maybe but i managed to do may last lap 5 minutes faster than my first two and I didn't cheat anywhere I did get lost on my second not long after the start didn't even realise until I started wontdering why there were no arrows and saw a few others backtracking, had bad arm pump for half the first lap then got stuck behind one very smoky ktm on one of those long uphills. Had a great day many thanks to the wmmc, acheived my goal of finishing and not coming last haha. Passed a few people on the hills and one through that big puddle, had a few stupid lowspeed offs which really seem to suck the energy. Almost made it up the hill by pits and saw a few loop it out big time there.

Those of you who winge about people not pulling over for you its a race everyone pays to be there why should they stop and make it easy for you htfu. I figure half the challenge is finding a way to make a pass If theres clear bit of track I'll pull to a side a bit so the person behind me can pass but get stuffed if I'm going bush in the twisty stuff for you.lol well said it was all just abit of fun still havnt clean the shit off the back window of me van yet

barty5

16th August 2010, 23:38

Results are up.
http://www.waitematamcc.co.nz/sites/default/files/results/Toad_2010_Overall.PDF

The guy who came 14th overall. His last lap he got a 47, rest of his laps were over 50minutes. Seems abit weird that someone can randomly be 3 minutes faster

I was having a real flying last lap and would have finished well with in my 1st 2 lap but i was hanging from a tree.

billaroo

17th August 2010, 08:57

takitimu

17th August 2010, 11:52

Great videos bill, taking the smart route I see :), my picks were ktmboys effort and the ktm near the end of the 2nd vid, I thought he was looping out, but he caught it just.
Can't remember a hill like that the two times I've done the dead toad, sounds like even more hill climbing practise before the next one ( cross fingers fit next time ).

Ktmboy

17th August 2010, 11:55

maybe but i managed to do may last lap 5 minutes faster than my first two and I didn't cheat anywhere I did get lost on my second not long after the start didn't even realise until I started wontdering why there were no arrows and saw a few others backtracking, had bad arm pump for half the first lap then got stuck behind one very smoky ktm on one of those long uphills. Had a great day many thanks to the wmmc, acheived my goal of finishing and not coming last haha. Passed a few people on the hills and one through that big puddle, had a few stupid lowspeed offs which really seem to suck the energy. Almost made it up the hill by pits and saw a few loop it out big time there.

Those of you who winge about people not pulling over for you its a race everyone pays to be there why should they stop and make it easy for you htfu. I figure half the challenge is finding a way to make a pass If theres clear bit of track I'll pull to a side a bit so the person behind me can pass but get stuffed if I'm going bush in the twisty stuff for you.

Yes, its a race not a trail ride. Racing believe it or not has some rules and eddicit.
Rory Mead came up behind me about 5mins before the end. I pulled over because it was obvious that he was faster. He too was aghast at the lack of racing knowledge.
iIs not a case of HTFU, its just curtisy.
How about I just block pass and take out all the novice and slower riders? Not just me but every fast rider does it. Who would be moaning then. I bet you'd then be complaining about my tactics after being dumped 20 odd times.

Ktmboy

17th August 2010, 11:58

Great videos bill, taking the smart route I see :), my picks were ktmboys effort and the ktm near the end of the 2nd vid, I thought he was looping out, but he caught it just.
Can't remember a hill like that the two times I've done the dead toad, sounds like even more hill climbing practise before the next one ( cross fingers fit next time ).

Yes well... I went over the log, looked up, and went fark, not prepared for this.

Hill climbs are not my fortee but worth having a crack eh.

takitimu

17th August 2010, 12:28

.
iIs not a case of HTFU, its just curtisy.
How about I just block pass and take out all the novice and slower riders? Not just me but every fast rider does it. Who would be moaning then. I bet you'd then be complaining about my tactics after being dumped 20 odd times.
That's my take to, I let faster guys past, they have their own races and a few seconds won't affect me, besides if you can keep up you learn from them & at the end of the race they'll happily have yarn and you pick up a few good tips.

Yes well... I went over the log, looked up, and went fark, not prepared for this.

Hill climbs are not my fortee but worth having a crack eh.
Hell yeah, looked like you damn near made it, if there had been a line there like later, my money is you would have.

I suspect you are understating your ability to climb hills somehow.

SpikedPunch

17th August 2010, 13:13

That's my take to, I let faster guys past, they have their own races and a few seconds won't affect me, besides if you can keep up you learn from them & at the end of the race they'll happily have yarn and you pick up a few good tips.

Yeah, I figure that too, for the fast people seconds count. For me not so much:bleh: Although sometimes it's hard to find a place to let them pass when it's really tight. Bit awkward riding along with someone yelling/revving their engine at you till you find somewhere with enough space to scoot off to the side :x
What is the normal etiquette for passing? I wasn't really sure how it went down so I would just trundle along behind until I found an opportunity, like if they were slow at corners or uphills or whatever. When the faster girls started coming around they'd yell, sometimes knock bars to pass etc - fine by me, just like in the derby days :) And sort of inevitable on a tight track. I didn't try any of that stuff since it's not like I'm that fast or good anyway, but where's the line between being competitive and being a dick? Cause I'd like to pass quicker, but don't wanna cheese anyone off at the same time.

vazza

17th August 2010, 13:33

Those of you who winge about people not pulling over for you its a race everyone pays to be there why should they stop and make it easy for you htfu. I figure half the challenge is finding a way to make a pass If theres clear bit of track I'll pull to a side a bit so the person behind me can pass but get stuffed if I'm going bush in the twisty stuff for you.

Haha! Expect to get shunted pretty bad then! I've had to do it a couple of times for the muppets who refuse to move :P

And when you get people like rory mead that are coming behind you like a cutcat you are going to want to move, its good to have respect for those 20x your pace.

barty5

17th August 2010, 14:06

Haha! Expect to get shunted pretty bad then! I've had to do it a couple of times for the muppets who refuse to move :P

And when you get people like rory mead that are coming behind you like a cutcat you are going to want to move, its good to have respect for those 20x your pace.

I find if they wont move when you set right on their arse for a while they end up running themselves off the track usually works best on a small straight they end up out braking themselves going into the next corner.

Ktmboy

17th August 2010, 14:20

I find if they wont move when you set right on their arse for a while they end up running themselves off the track usually works best on a small straight they end up out braking themselves going into the next corner.

To true. This happened a couple of times. Twice said muppets tried to go faster to block me. They ended up binning it and thus taking me down as well. One even left his bike, then went and sat down by the track. I just road over his bike. swt.:Punk:

barty5

17th August 2010, 14:26

To true. This happened a couple of times. Twice said muppets tried to go faster to block me. They ended up binning it and thus taking me down as well. One even left his bike, then went and sat down by the track. I just road over his bike. swt.:Punk:

Nice move bikes make awesome traction, was going to say the only real trick to to know when they are about to bin it.

scott411

17th August 2010, 14:27

i am with the few above me, on trail rides i will not push to get past people but in races its game on, if you catch someone quickly ill give them a quick rev to let them know i am there, but if they do not try to let me past ill make it through, sometimes bashing bars or elbows, i am normally travelling much quicker when this happens,

esp when you are getting lapped you should let guys past in teh tight stuff,

noobi

17th August 2010, 16:00

Depending on the situation, I will let people pass straight away or they can wait for me to find a place that suits me. In an enduro when your racing against the clock, not other people, I will move over as soon as I hear them behind me, if they catch me then they are obviously faster because they started after I did, so ill move over, loose some time, follow the faster rider and gain the lost time back because im following someone who is faster.
In a cross country, ie a race against other people, if they catch me gradually, then their probably not much faster, if they appear as if from no where then ill move over as they are clearly faster.

Making faster riders wait for any more than 30 odd seconds is ludicrous, I hate being held up for any length of time, so I dont make faster riders wait.
I followed some sort of big bore 4 stroke in a special test once, got stuck behind him for half the test because he wouldnt move over and I couldnt pass due to it being freshly cut single track, and he couldnt understand why I got angry when the test had finished.... \
:shifty:

Jay GTI

17th August 2010, 16:24

I followed some sort of big bore 4 stroke in a special test once, got stuck behind him for half the test because he wouldnt move over and I couldnt pass due to it being freshly cut single track, and he couldnt understand why I got angry when the test had finished.... \
:shifty:

When I raced MTBs, I would always pull over if there was someone blatantly faster than me coming up behind (lots harder to tell on a mountain bike though), but if there was someone at or around my pace then it was up to them to get past. Sometimes people actually want you to put some effort into staying ahead, makes them ride faster. One MTB race I had a guy on my back wheel for a good 40 minutes, I rode the race of my life trying to keep him behind me. We crossed the finish together and after I rediscovered the ability to breath and talk, I went up to him to apologise for not letting him past. He told me to piss off, he'd nearly coughed up a lung a number of times trying to stick with me and shook my hand for making it an awesome race.

Reckless

17th August 2010, 16:59

I'm the same as the later comments by the faster guys! I tend to be in the slower bunch so let guys past quite often. I wouldn't have dared try to hold any of the fast guys up on the T100 their speed was dangerously faster than most riders there. All you heard was their boooming exhaust, you ducked out the way for a split sec, not even stopping, then they flashed by and where gone!
I'm getting a little faster now and would hope the slower riders would show me the same good grace. You only had to look at that guy in the yellow jacket in JT119's vid at how much he was slowing JT down, struggling along with both feet waving out at some points and even when he fell off he didn't give in. He knew what he was doing, the ass! When JT got past he was heaps faster. Slower riders must remember they unsight the track, upset the flow and create quite a bit of danger for the passing rider and themselves. You do much better for your lap times by trying to follow for 1/2 a k than over riding and slowing both of you down!!
I've only done 2 or 3 races but you bloody know by his exhaust sound, how quickly a guy catches you and therefore no how much faster he is, if you hear him and then he's up your arse let him through, if it takes him 3k to catch you, race him, its not bloody rocket science!
Just my 2c!!

tommorth

17th August 2010, 19:13

i think you lot are missing my point a bit I don't try to hold anyone up and when any of the seriously fast guys come up its fairly obvious and I make way but that said there skill level is such that they don't have much trouble makeing the pass .
if some one slowly catches me in the tight stuff i'll often ride as normal kepping to one side a bit in the straighter bits to give them and opertunity but half the time its the guy I just spent ten minutes catching and passing why would I want to stop and let him past easily? Just cos he's had a burst of energy

This seems to work fine for me I haven't had anyone block passing me or running me off the track or even stuck behind me for any lengh of time.

Going around block passing all the novices would not only be stupid and childish its also dangerous for the riders involved its also damageing for our sport, who would want to start rideing and raceing with people who behaved like that.

Chill out we are for the most part a bunch of amateurs out haveing some fun was anyone here getting paid or just your egos on the line .

poke poke.....

oldskool

17th August 2010, 19:29

Going around block passing all the novices would not only be stupid and childish its also dangerous for the riders involved its also damageing for our sport, who would want to start rideing and raceing with people who behaved like that.

Chill out we are for the most part a bunch of amateurs out haveing some fun was anyone here getting paid or just your egos on the line .

poke poke.....

Well said! The diehards should be embracing novices such as the like of me and not trying to put the weekend riders off. After all I'm happy to make up the numbers for the cause but at the same time I'd like to be treated with a little bit of humility. It's daunting enough attending a race event not to have a crazy eyed tosser living a fantasy and getting carried away with the occasion. Would the self fancied experts prefer the number fillers don't attend these events?

green machine

17th August 2010, 19:38

Well said! The diehards should be embracing novices such as the like of me and not trying to put the weekend riders off. After all I'm happy to make up the numbers for the cause but at the same time I'd like to be treated with a little bit of humility. It's daunting enough attending a race event not to have a crazy eyed tosser living a fantasy and getting carried away with the occasion. Would the self fancied experts prefer the number fillers don't attend these events?

I'm with Oldskool,i've thought of trying some of these races but being pretty an average rider at best........so hearing stories of shunting,elbows etc puts me off a bit.....and to quote Barty "bikes make good traction".....if someone deliberatly ran over my $8000 bike cause i held them up for five minutes things would get nasty,especially if it got broken...........

barty5

17th August 2010, 19:46

Ill fix yah all wonder if one of these could be mounted up front the rebound on the forks should if i angled it a bit help to clear it every now and then.:2guns:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Business-farming-industry/Industrial/Earthmoving-machinery/Parts-attachments/auction-309871367.htm

small edit thinking ten different thing try to get kids in bed

jt119

17th August 2010, 19:50

I'm with Oldskool,i've thought of trying some of these races but being pretty an average rider at best........so hearing stories of shunting,elbows etc puts me off a bit.....and to quote Barty "bikes make good traction".....if someone deliberatly ran over my $8000 bike cause i held them up for five minutes things would get nasty,especially if it got broken...........come out and give some ago all the guys that pass me yell out when ther abit back to let you no ther coming or just go round you and make it look like ther on a wide track with heaps of room never been elbowed or nocked off the more people that do them the better

flyingcr250

17th August 2010, 19:53

Ill fix yah all winder if one of these could be mounted up front the rebound on the forks should if i want it angled help to clear it ever now and then.:2guns:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Business-farming-industry/Industrial/Earthmoving-machinery/Parts-attachments/auction-309871367.htm

say that again??.....

barty5

17th August 2010, 19:54

I'm with Oldskool,i've thought of trying some of these races but being pretty an average rider at best........so hearing stories of shunting,elbows etc puts me off a bit.....and to quote Barty "bikes make good traction".....if someone deliberatly ran over my $8000 bike cause i held them up for five minutes things would get nasty,especially if it got broken...........

That only generally happens when you drop it right in front and there is now where else to go normally half way up a hill climb and they get left on their sides just use the tyres for a bit of extra bite.:yes:

flyingcr250

17th August 2010, 19:54

come out and give some ago all the guys that pass me yell out when ther abit back to let you no ther coming or just go round you and make it look like ther on a wide track with heaps of room never been elbowed or nocked off the more people that do them the better

didnt someone run your foot over in the last dead toad?

jt119

17th August 2010, 19:57

didnt someone run your foot over in the last dead toad?

lol ya but the prick that did it got a flatty and had to pull out

jt119

17th August 2010, 19:58

didnt someone run your foot over in the last dead toad? and your not the normal rider your friggen open game along with rupe

Rupe

17th August 2010, 20:09

and your not the normal rider your friggen open game along with rupe

hahahaha, bring it on. you had the perfect chance about 3mins in!!!

flyingcr250

17th August 2010, 20:19

lol ya but the prick that did it got a flatty and had to pull out

thats what she said! wooooOOOOOOooooo

oldskool

17th August 2010, 20:29

lol ya but the prick that did it got a flatty and had to pull out

thats what she said! wooooOOOOOOooooo

Sounds like JT needs a dose of MYCOXAFLOPIN

Ktmboy

17th August 2010, 20:49

"Those of you who winge about people not pulling over for you its a race everyone pays to be there why should they stop and make it easy for you htfu"

Hoold on a sec Tommorth, These are your words not ours. Don't try to change things around...
Green Machine its not about taking folks out. In most races at briefing we are advised about over taking etc and what is accepted and what is not. Most people abide by this so its pretty safe.

jt119

17th August 2010, 20:50

Sounds like JT needs a dose of MYCOXAFLOPIN

last few times ive been at the sandpit ive come across your bike and steves on the side of the track footprints leading into the bush and screeming and moaning going on whats that about

noobi

17th August 2010, 20:57

last few times ive been at the sandpit ive come across your bike and steves on the side of the track footprints leading into the bush and screeming and moaning going on whats that about

steve doesnt have a bike, he doubles with evan

Rupe

17th August 2010, 21:08

"Those of you who winge about people not pulling over for you its a race everyone pays to be there why should they stop and make it easy for you htfu"

Hoold on a sec Tommorth, These are your words not ours. Don't try to change things around...
Green Machine its not about taking folks out. In most races at briefing we are advised about over taking etc and what is accepted and what is not. Most people abide by this so its pretty safe.

Yep you do state that the slower riders are to give way to faster riders at your briefings, and doing that at the breifing def helps.

I've also been passed by loads of faster people in races and never been block passed or anything stupid, but I could see that if you were an arse people wouldn't poke up with it too long. It's all pretty safe as long as you use simple common sense.

Whats you rules on staying on the tracks Tony?

Reckless

17th August 2010, 21:43

Whats you rules on staying on the tracks Tony?

Mine are stay on them till your absolutely fucked then take every shortcut you can!! LOL!!!

billaroo

18th August 2010, 08:04

scott411

18th August 2010, 08:46

I'm with Oldskool,i've thought of trying some of these races but being pretty an average rider at best........so hearing stories of shunting,elbows etc puts me off a bit.....and to quote Barty "bikes make good traction".....if someone deliberatly ran over my $8000 bike cause i held them up for five minutes things would get nasty,especially if it got broken...........

the only time fast guys will get agresive is if you try and hold them up, most of the time you knwo you can not pass in tight single track but if you get an oppurtunity to move over slight they will be past you and gone,

I can relate to noobi here, people do not seem to be liked being passed by little 2 strokes, and try to hold you up, and since you do not have the grunt to pass them sometimes it gets annoying,

i think you will be fine at a couple of races Steve, they will be nothing more scary than the maize paddock races you did,

tommorth

18th August 2010, 20:33

the responses here have been interesting haha ktmboy I'm not trying to change my words and I stick by what I said I'm not going to go off the track in the tight stuff for every bugger who comes up behind me
However only a dickhead would try to block the likes of Mead or Birch or any of the the top riders as I said before those guys are fast enough and skilled enough to to taek advantage of pretty much any opertunity to pass theres some helmet cam footage on there somwhere from Birch Ithink at the last wmmc two man and he makes it all look so effortless. Me on the other hand when I do catch someone somtimes I just can't be bothered passing them and wait for them to fall off.

It is pointless argueing on the internet no way near as much fun as in real life plus its hard to take the piss without gettig taken a bit more seriously than intended, happy to discus at a ride some time.
already looking forward to the next one