VF1000R on tardme

[HenryDorsetCase]

anyone know this? I've spoken to the owner, sounds genuine, has the original paperwork etc.

You have no idea how badly I wanted one of these in 1986. This one seems to be the right price, and in the right condition. I want it. The question is, how bad will the domestic consequences be?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=306944246

[Deano]

A mate of mine had one in 1989 - cost him $5999 from memory. He blew the crank after a few months.

Beast of a bike though - awesome grunt.

[Kickaha]

This one seems to be the right price, and in the right condition. I want it. The question is, how bad will the domestic consequences be?


If you want it that badly the domestic consequences don't matter

[chiefofthehill]

Wicked, love the 80's look... has not hit reserve tho aye, so who knows what the guy wants, pipes look far are gley but bet ya it sounds the mutts nutts.

[nudemetalz]

Remember a mate having one fo these back in '89/90. Had a 4:1 one it and sounded wicked. Quite a tank to ride around town but on the open road rather nice.

This one looks well preserved and reasonable dollar for it too.

ohhh,..yet another temptation....oh I hate this forum for that ;)

[onearmedbandit]

Never owned one but always lusted after them. However the reports I've read and heard of have scared me off owning one until I could justify spending the money on repairs.

[nudemetalz]

Weren't the VF1000R's built by HRC and not Honda?

[Crasherfromwayback]

They're actually overweight gutless piles of poo.

[nudemetalz]

My missus calls me that from time to time....

[Katman]

The question is, how bad will the domestic consequences be?


The answer is, it's always easier to beg forgiveness than to ask permission.

[nudemetalz]

As good as these VF1000R's were, Mr Gardiner couldn't beat the mighty 500 two-stroke V-4 in the 1984 Castrol 6 Hour.....

[Taz]

I owned one of these. Loved it. Did lots of k's and no problems what so ever.

[onearmedbandit]

I owned one of these. Loved it. Did lots of k's and no problems what so ever.

And therein lies the rub. For every story you hear about their reliability (or lack thereof) you will find an owner who had a great time owning one of these beasties. I suppose the only way to find out for yourself is to own one.

[hmmmnz]

they are pretty damn good, i have the regular cam chain model, and its on 90000km with no rebuild and cams are sill perfect,
you read loads of cam failures on the net, but im yet to hear from any one on this side of the world thats had problems, they were pretty much sorted oil delivery wise before they were released, or all got done on the first shop service,
basically a larger banjo was fitted to the oil line and that did the trick, but there are more options available if you want even better top end lube,

my biggest bed bug was the rear air shock, what a heap of shit!!!
its a non rebuilable air shock, eg no spring to speak of,
replace that and some heavier oil in the front and its almost acceptable to ride,
its no sports bike, but the sheer noise when she screams is damn cool,
ive been temped to buy that bike as well,
there is also a vf1000f listed as well for half the price
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=306532092
alot higher mileage, but if you want cheap thrills then...

[DR650gary]

It ain't been ridden hard. Look at the size of those chicken strips on the front tyre.

Bought one as a project a few years ago but good bits aren't cheap and the end result looked poor when compared others available at the time so I passed it on. May be worth a few bucks some time in the future.

[FJRider]

You have no idea how badly I wanted one of these in 1986. This one seems to be the right price, and in the right condition. I want it. The question is, how bad will the domestic consequences be?


$4,700 at buy now price doesnt seem that bad, 37,000 km's ... low by any standard. Gear driven cam's if memory serves ... (often does not :lol:)

"Domestic consequences" will be few ... you will seldom be home on any fine day ... :shifty:

[crazyhorse]

They're actually overweight gutless piles of poo.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[pritch]

A couple of years back there was one for sale locally. I asked a resident Honda expert if there were any problems inherent with the model and was told there weren't.

Somebody mentioned cams? I seem to recall that the first Honda V4s had cams made of cheese but that was sorted quite quickly. It had to be.

[Dodgy]

As Pete said, they were heavy, shit and gutless.

I think it was the Aus Castrol 6 hour in that they were completely outclassed by the RZ500. Just look at the damn thing, it almost makes my pig ugly FJ look svelte!

And just cause it has an HRC sticker does not mean that HRC built it! This was as much a racebike back then as something like a Hayabusa would be now.

[nudemetalz]

As Pete said, they were heavy, shit and gutless.

I think it was the Aus Castrol 6 hour in that they were completely outclassed by the RZ500. Just look at the damn thing, it almost makes my pig ugly FJ look svelte!

And just cause it has an HRC sticker does not mean that HRC built it! This was as much a racebike back then as something like a Hayabusa would be now.

...I get the feeling you don't like them..... :whistle::laugh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

...I get the feeling you don't like them..... :whistle::laugh:

There wasn't much to like mate! For sure I think they're quite a nice looking bike...and the V-Four is a nice sounding engine. There it ends though. A GPZ900 would (and DID) waste it in every department.

[T.W.R]

Try finding a test article on one of these by any of the magazines of the era :yes:
The reluctance of Honda to allow tests to be done says something in itself

The pic below is from this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/20836-Honda-eyes-on-the-prize-(two-wheels-article-88)?p=424873#post424873)

[nudemetalz]

Funny thing is my Guzzi V11 isn't the fastest bike nor the best handler (actually nor the most reliable !!), but in my eyes it looks great and I loved riding it.
I'm sure a VF1000R owner would feel the same way about theirs.

I personally would be happy to have one in the garage for Sunday jaunts.

[Kickaha]

I think it was the Aus Castrol 6 hour in that they were completely outclassed by the RZ500.

I wouldn't call it being outclassed when the VF finished on the same lap and from what I recall the RZ500 did less fuel stops

[DVS 69]

I had one of these afew years back, it was my first big bike. I loved it to honest love the cam gear sound and v four was really neat good mid range an still revvy. Alan Delatour down here in NP raced one back in 86 in ozzy. I never had a problem with mine apart from a head gasket. I was told these cam gear engines were fairly faultless. Im pretty sure they were made by HRC cos mine had HRC here an there on the bike. Cool the way they have the front axle for quick release in the race paddock. Back in the day they wouldve been pretty awesum no doubt. Anyway that was my five cents worth :yes:

[dangerous]

anyone know this? I've spoken to the owner, sounds genuine, has the original paperwork etc. So... Ya buy it?


A mate of mine had one in 1989 - cost him $5999 from memory. He blew the crank after a few months.

Beast of a bike though - awesome grunt.interesing... 1st I ever heard of this, even MVX cranks were ok LMFAO


Never owned one but always lusted after them. However the reports I've read and heard of have scared me off owning one until I could justify spending the money on repairs. Ya not thinking of the VF750 are ya, as far as I know any of the gear drive engines were solid as a rock?


They're actually overweight gutless piles of poo.hmmm... deano says different?


As Pete said, they were heavy, shit and gutless.

I think it was the Aus Castrol 6 hour in that they were completely outclassed by the RZ500. Just look at the damn thing, it almost makes my pig ugly FJ look svelte!again in 86 I wouldnt consider them gutless... and compairing a 500 stroker with a sport tourer aint that fair.




There wasn't much to like mate! For sure I think they're quite a nice looking bike...and the V-Four is a nice sounding engine. There it ends though. A GPZ900 would (and DID) waste it in every department.
powere to weight Id think so, and the 9 Ninge was one nugety bitch for its year.



I wouldn't call it being outclassed when the VF finished on the same lap and from what I recall the RZ500 did less fuel stopsPut like that the VFR wasnt no slouch then, thats a decent effort over 6hrs... but thirster than a v4 stroker that aint good.

IMO, an awesome bike, typical Honda, heavy, solid, relible, a good all rounder but no WSB winner.

[Rcktfsh]

As Pete said, they were heavy, shit and gutless.

I think it was the Aus Castrol 6 hour in that they were completely outclassed by the RZ500. Just look at the damn thing, it almost makes my pig ugly FJ look svelte!

And just cause it has an HRC sticker does not mean that HRC built it! This was as much a racebike back then as something like a Hayabusa would be now.

To be fair Gardiner had hunted down and was passing Scotty with a lap or so to go, as he was passing he accidently hit the kill switch which took him a while to work out. To rub salt into Hondas wounds the race had started a couple of minutes late but due to TV scheduling had to finish at specified time meaning it was a Castrol 5hr 58 mins or so, Scotty duly ran out of gas just after taking the chequered flag. The Honda boys took a jug of petrol they'd drained from the tank of the VFR onto the dais.

[T.W.R]

Considering they were double the cost of anything else at the time they priced themselves off the market, and you could actually still buy them new in the US in the early 90s :yes:
Being only 6hp more than a standard VF the cost wasn't worth it compared to what else was around in the mid 80s. Horrible on fuel (about 35mpg at best) and with a full tank of juice they're top heavy as buggery.
The European spec model is the more desirable of them
There's one sitting in a shed in Ashburton collecting dust that's in better condition than that one only two owners & a full S/S exhaust system and roughly the same amount kms on the clock :shifty: It's one I almost brought but it was snapped up from under my nose, I'd test ridden it, got the deposit together, went to do the deal and the bike had been brought the day before. That was in 92 and Craig the bloke who brought it still has it and only brings it out of the shed once in a blue moon otherwise it just sits there keeping a Valiant Charger and another couple of aussie tanks company:yes:

[chiefofthehill]

Try finding a test article on one of these by any of the magazines of the era :yes:
The reluctance of Honda to allow tests to be done says something in itself

The pic below is from this thread (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/20836-Honda-eyes-on-the-prize-(two-wheels-article-88)?p=424873#post424873)
Sounds like one persons own opinion...
CB350, what do you expect with 350cc in 72, compare to others of that year
NR500, just a bit slow in the making thats all
VF1000R, knocked of 'just'... hows that a 'but'
VF1000F, bull shit it never had the issues the 750 did.
CB360, DUH, answered his own question, again no 'but' there
CX500T, yeah was expesive... get what ya pay for tho and no one bike will ever suit all
MVX250, ok slight cock up there, thats what you get for producing a bike over night
CB750, auto, yes agreed what was Hona thinking?
VF750F, speaks for its self, 'knocked of bigger bikes' 'but' yes there is a but here, slight cam issue was sorted
VFR750R, who the hell is smith and campbell? no 'buts' here one of the Japs best ever bikes

[T.W.R]

Sounds like one persons own opinion...
CB350, what do you expect with 350cc in 72, compare to others of that year
NR500, just a bit slow in the making thats all
VF1000R, knocked of 'just'... hows that a 'but'
VF1000F, bull shit it never had the issues the 750 did.
CB360, DUH, answered his own question, again no 'but' there
CX500T, yeah was expesive... get what ya pay for tho and no one bike will ever suit all
MVX250, ok slight cock up there, thats what you get for producing a bike over night
CB750, auto, yes agreed what was Hona thinking?
VF750F, speaks for its self, 'knocked of bigger bikes' 'but' yes there is a but here, slight cam issue was sorted
VFR750R, who the hell is smith and campbell? no 'buts' here one of the Japs best ever bikes

:shutup: The list was compiled by someone with a few more clues than you obviously

for a few of your questionings on listed bikes

the VF1000R was hyped up so much then produced so little & it was double the price of anything else at the time so it shot itself in the arse. And do a bit of digging a see if you can find a test on a VF1000R :yes: The only ones you'll find will be bikes borrowed from private owners or modified VF1000R tests from a few years after they were released but there'll be definately no off the shop floor tests on brand new bikes :nono: basically because there were MUCH better bikes in the same class that ran circles around them in most respects :yes: Honda promoted them so much the did sell but in limited numbers, They were still listed as a new bike that could be purchased by order in the US in the early 90s because they still had stock sitting in their warehouse that no one wanted :yes:

The VF750 was just a slight cam issue, there were major recalls to remedy the issue mostly done under warrenty,it was that big of a problem not just a minor isolated case

The RC30 :shit: who's Cambell & Smith you ask :laugh: they were team mates who had their RC30 handgrenade itself due to oil gallery issues ie: factory design fault that caused no oil feed to vital areas under race conditions....real great for a race replica bike don't you think? the Cambell is Malcolm Cambell (but you don't really want a Aussie & World Superbikes lesson)

[Grumph]

The Honda V4 family has only one real fault - they were built by Honda.
I've done most of them from NC30 to RC30 and one thing in common is the lack of finish on the cranks. If they'd only radiused the oil holes where they break out onto the bearing surface there would have been a lot less problems. They appear to have relied on the linishing belt dipping into the oil hole to remove any burrs - didn't work very often. Even RC30's are like this.
With the cranks hand finished and bearing clearances set properly the bottom ends are pretty well bulletproof. The gear drive cam versions only seem to give problems with the "C" spring gear preload setup if abused or at high mileage. The chaindrive cam ones of course suffer from the Honda inability at the time to design a tensioner which would work. This can be overcome.
If you really want one most of the faults are well known and there are solutions available.
Personally, I could live with an RC30 quite happily - and I don't say that about Hondas very often.

[chiefofthehill]

for a few of your questionings on listed bikes

who's Cambell & Smith you ask :laugh: All thiese bikes and riders are well before my time so Thank you for the inlightenment, much appreciated, re: the RC30 surley it was not the only race bike to expire in its time, I would expect it still happens.

[T.W.R]

All thiese bikes and riders are well before my time so Thank you for the inlightenment, much appreciated, re: the RC30 surley it was not the only race bike to expire in its time, I would expect it still happens.

I suspected that :yes:

Those two were highlighted because of their status at the time and the demise of their bike during what was a major race. though they weren't the only ones to have it happen :oi-grr: there were quite a few privateer racers who fell to the same issue. The bike itself was a magic piece of machinery but just failed under race conditions....awesome on the road but just like the VF1000R exculsively priced compared to it's competition and not that much better in real world conditions. Just the same as Yamaha's OW01 (have a search & see what price they were when released :shutup:)

Seeing RC30s , VF1000Rs, OW01s etc when they were brand new was better than porn, amazing pieces the RC30 & OW01 were real craftsmanship

[dangerous]

The Honda V4 family has only one real fault - they were built by Honda. Ohh I wouldnt say that, Honda had no more issues than any other Jap company, and way less than any euro/yank over the years...
So what of all the other v4's Kawa, Yamy, suzuki? they all did em but ya dont here anything of it, could be cos they were only another engine.


the RC30 surley it was not the only race bike to expire in its time, I would expect it still happens.
tell me bout it, in the last few years Ive blowen up Yamaha, Suzuki and yes 2 honda's.


Seeing RC30s , VF1000Rs, OW01s etc when they were brand new was better than porn, amazing pieces the RC30 & OW01 were real craftsmanship hell yes remembering it was near 30yrs ago, to easy to forget that and compair em to more current years.


sitting here twidling my thumbs on this yet again shit arse winters day... from a site I often refer to, http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_vf1000r.htm

[dangerous]

anyone know this? Another one came up on line over night, started under a grand

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=312373023

216815

on another similer note I followed one of these yesterday over gebbies...
216814

[T.W.R]

sitting here twidling my thumbs on this yet again shit arse winters day... from a site I often refer to, http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_vf1000r.htm

generalised reference purposes one hopes :yes: check the difference in dry & wet weight specs :shutup:



on another similer note I followed one of these yesterday over gebbies...
216814

That's an RC, you want an RB model :yes:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=284749576

These two are touted as RB models but the road going one has pillion peg mounts :shutup:

[nudemetalz]

Back in the old days, I remember the CB1100Rs being raced without their fairings most of the time. Is that because they never worked that well or too heavy?

[Katman]

Back in the old days, I remember the CB1100Rs being raced without their fairings most of the time. Is that because they never worked that well or too heavy?

The RC went to the full fairing because the half fairing of the RB tended to lighten the front wheel at top speed.

[nudemetalz]

Actually now you mention that I do remember reading that once.

Cheers KM

[T.W.R]

Here's a good piece of history :yes:

http://www.google.co.nz/url?q=http://www.deejay51.com/six_hour_1980.htm&sa=U&ei=BbpxTNHkNIqKtgP20OidDg&ved=0CBkQFjAC&usg=AFQjCNHHS4dfVYj1YRZG7a0wW_snw8pS_g

:shit: check the Helmet cam on Ron Haslem 3rd piccy top row :lol:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Seeing RC30s , VF1000Rs, OW01s etc when they were brand new was better than porn, amazing pieces the RC30 & OW01 were real craftsmanship

Don't think you can put a VFR1000 in with the RC30 or OW01 mate. I certainly wouldn't. Two are hand built race bikes...one is a fat heap of shit with some HRC stickers.

[nudemetalz]

Here's a good piece of history :yes:

http://www.google.co.nz/url?q=http://www.deejay51.com/six_hour_1980.htm&sa=U&ei=BbpxTNHkNIqKtgP20OidDg&ved=0CBkQFjAC&usg=AFQjCNHHS4dfVYj1YRZG7a0wW_snw8pS_g

:shit: check the Helmet cam on Ron Haslem 3rd piccy top row :lol:

TRULY AWESOME Link, Bill !!!!

Brings back memories as a kid.

[Grumph]

What few CB1100R's got raced generally had the fairings removed when the replacement price was known - and not a lot of aftermarket replacements available then either.
I know of one RC30 which got carefully parked up & covered when the price list arrived - a tank was over $2700....

[T.W.R]

Don't think you can put a VFR1000 in with the RC30 or OW01 mate. I certainly wouldn't. Two are hand built race bikes...one is a fat heap of shit with some HRC stickers.

Wasn't making that sort of comparison Pete :nono: but at their own points in time they were at the pinnicle of their intended purposes especially with their attention to detail :yes:
And lol the OW01 was an stupidly over priced item that didn't do anything better than it's competition especially when Yamaha had a rethink of their strategy dropped it and within a couple of years produced a relatively identical bike for a fraction of the price.
Even though I was close as a fly's testicle to buying a VF1000R it wasn't for their supposed brilliance as a sportsbike it was the engineering involved, yep they're ponderous tanks at low speed and top heavy as buggery but as a design statement they were way ahead of their rivals by a long chalk :yes:
Only thing close at the same point was the GSX-R1100G and apart from being a total rethink in weight & power stakes what did they do? snap wheels & headstocks, the GPZ1000RX had a blistering top end but handled worst than the VF1000R at low speed & Yamaha Trundled along with the FJ1100 with torque for africa to get it by & a Bimota inspired frame

[nudemetalz]

......
And lol the OW01 was an stupidly over priced item that didn't do anything better than it's competition especially when Yamaha had a rethink of their strategy dropped it and within a couple of years produced a relatively identical bike for a fraction of the price.
....

YZF750R per chance?

[T.W.R]

YZF750R per chance?

close the YZF750SP :yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

YZF750R per chance?

Nothing cheap about one of those either!

[Moki]

I owned one of these. Loved it. Did lots of k's and no problems what so ever.

I owned one as well and loved it. The R model unfairly got a lot of stick from the shitty F. Overweight - yes. Bags of torque. Stoopid 16" front tyre, but cool Comstar wheels.

Cool:Punk:

[cb750kz]

I have vf1000r and an 1100rb the vf is a great bike and does every thing you expect a great bike to do the 1100r scares the crap out of me more raw power an no handling to cope with all that power been a honda nut the vf i find refinded and a wonderful bike I could buy some thing more moden but I like the old stuff and thats the way it is maybe one day I'll buy an old cb350 but not today

[glegge]

Also an R rider. yeah there long, and heavy, but going from a VT250 to the VF1000R was the best thing i ever did.
clocked up many many 100's of thousands of k's on it around NZ traveling with friends for xmas etc. as well as blasting around the place to visit friends, for rides up the tucks on the weekends, track days, sprints, anywhere and everywhere, hell even on lots of gravel roads and a few dirt tracks and stream crossings down south (with the bmw adventure R bikes).

In all the time i have had it, i have only had to keep the oil and filter fresh, check the water, and keep putting tires and chains on it.
normal service stuff (tune ups, carb balance, front fork oil/seals), nothing unusual, all the stuff you expect to do on a bike of the erra.

If i could afford it, i'd like to buy a mint one and do it all over again.
awesome power in any gear.
I loved this bike to bits, and pretty much rode the wheels off it.
i'm pretty disapointed with it's replacment - a 2002 vfr800 vtec. gutless by comparision.

anyway - there is plenty of info on the internet, ignore the bad cam stories (they are for chain drive VF's only). yeah, big tank, but 300k's out of it every time.
hard to find a truely great example today i imagine.

anyway - i have plenty of info and stuff if needed at home/on the net.
cheers
Gavin

[glegge]

oh yeah, i forgot i had this http://gavweb.dts.net.nz/vfhome/Service.html a link to stuff i did - has k's and what was done and the date. so you get an idea of what it was like for consuming things like tyres and chains etc.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You guys that go on about how much you loved your VFR1000R's miss the point.

The point is they were total heaps of overweight shit. So what if they're reliable? So is a CT90!

They were much worse than the bikes from other brands they were competing with at the time.

They did nothing better, they were heavier, and they were slower. Oh...and they cost more.

What part of that makes them great...or 'classics'?

I've owned dozens of bikes I loved...that were heaps of fucking SHIT. But at least I can admit they were shit.

Take your rose tinted specks off, and stop all the good "oh it was a wonderful bike" talk before some poor cunt believes you and parts with his/her hard earned cash and buys one FFS!

[dangerous]

What part of that makes them great...or 'classics'?

Ohh now now, come on fella... ya tad OTT aye?
over weight expensive sure, but 'heaps a shit' they are and were not, to be shit it would have to be uncomfortable, unreliable, unridable... ya cant hassle the guys for they do not have rose tinted glasses, they aint claiming the bike could win a WSB race, no for them their street bike did and does more than they wanted or needed... NZ roads, awesome... fark its like compearing a RG5 or RZ5 to the NSR4

To answer ya Question... HONDA ;)

[Taz]

You guys that go on about how much you loved your VFR1000R's miss the point.

The point is they were total heaps of overweight shit. So what if they're reliable? So is a CT90!

They were much worse than the bikes from other brands they were competing with at the time.

They did nothing better, they were heavier, and they were slower. Oh...and they cost more.

What part of that makes them great...or 'classics'?

I've owned dozens of bikes I loved...that were heaps of fucking SHIT. But at least I can admit they were shit.

Take your rose tinted specks off, and stop all the good "oh it was a wonderful bike" talk before some poor cunt believes you and parts with his/her hard earned cash and buys one FFS!



Only your opinion. Mine was a great ROAD bike. Wasn't slow as it did the speed limit just fine. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about or maybe you're just lookinh=g at it from a wannabe racer point of view?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Only your opinion. Mine was a great ROAD bike. Wasn't slow as it did the speed limit just fine. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about or maybe you're just lookinh=g at it from a wannabe racer point of view?

Find me one review that rates them highly compared to what else was available at the time, and I'll lick your balls. If not...you can clean mine.

[dangerous]

Find me one review that rates them highly compared to what else was available at the time, and I'll lick your balls. If not...you can clean mine.
Find me one that 'dosent' and ya aint going nowere near my balls.

[Taz]

Find me one review that rates them highly compared to what else was available at the time, and I'll lick your balls. If not...you can clean mine.

You live your life through magazine reviews rather than experience? My "review" doesn't rate them any higher than the competition that was available at the time and whether the opposition was better or not is not the issue here. I liked mine as a comfortable big bore kilometre cruncher and it was a great road bike as I said. You better get back to regurgitating moto scribes opinions to those who are interested as I think you are missing the point of this thread and have no personal experience of the bike in question. Plus you have no balls :lol:

[glegge]

oh yeah.. gurgle etc.. :yes:
http://gavweb.dts.net.nz/VF1000R/html/sales%201.htm
http://gavweb.dts.net.nz/VF1000R/html/sales%202.htm
http://gavweb.dts.net.nz/VF1000R/html/sales%203.htm
http://gavweb.dts.net.nz/VF1000R/html/sales%204.htm

[Crasherfromwayback]

You live your life through magazine reviews rather than experience? My "review" doesn't rate them any higher than the competition that was available at the time and whether the opposition was better or not is not the issue here. I liked mine as a comfortable big bore kilometre cruncher and it was a great road bike as I said. You better get back to regurgitating moto scribes opinions to those who are interested as I think you are missing the point of this thread and have no personal experience of the bike in question. Plus you have no balls :lol:

I think you're talking a load of shit. Seeing as I've been in the bike industry for over 23 years, worked in 5 different shops here and in Australia, I've actually ridden just about every bike you could care to name. And as far as balls go...I've got a set that would make yours look like peas.

[Taz]

I think you're talking a load of shit. Seeing as I've been in the bike industry for over 23 years, worked in 5 different shops here and in Australia, I've actually ridden just about every bike you could care to name. And as far as balls go...I've got a set that would make yours look like peas.

But you haven't ridden or owned a 1000R for any length of time? And I'm talking shit because I said I liked mine? I made no statements that it was better or worse than anything else. Did you tell all your customers their bikes were shit if they didn't ride one on your "Good Bike List" ? I also spent more than a decade in the motorcycle industry. Why are you so upset about a bunch of VF1000R owners stating they liked their bikes? Where do you work so I know not to shop there? Geez man you need to get a grip and let those who say they liked a particular bike they owned be even if it doesn't fit your narrow prerequisites for a good bike. We aren't all "you" and are glad not to be.
Andy.

[Crasherfromwayback]

And I'm talking shit because I said I liked mine? .

No...you're talking shit because you neither know me, what I've ridden, and what I even originally said and why. Go back to the start of the tread and see if it all makes sense to you.

Then stop being so precious.

[T.W.R]

What part of that makes them great...or 'classics'?!

What they represented at the time for Honda :yes:



Take your rose tinted specks off, and stop all the good "oh it was a wonderful bike" talk before some poor cunt believes you and parts with his/her hard earned cash and buys one FFS!

One man's shit is another man's gold, and your word isn't gospel


oh yeah.. gurgle etc.. :yes:
http://gavweb.dts.net.nz/VF1000R/html/sales%201.htm
http://gavweb.dts.net.nz/VF1000R/html/sales%202.htm
http://gavweb.dts.net.nz/VF1000R/html/sales%203.htm
http://gavweb.dts.net.nz/VF1000R/html/sales%204.htm

Honda's media hype machine didn't live up to what it quoted


I think you're talking a load of shit. Seeing as I've been in the bike industry for over 23 years, worked in 5 different shops here and in Australia, I've actually ridden just about every bike you could care to name.

Doesn't mean diddly. And rubbishing someone else's experiences of a certain machine doesn't do your own reputation any good either.

[nudemetalz]

I'd love to get one and turn it into a proper FWS1000 replica....which funnily enough they were "styled" upon.
http://www.vf1000r.fr/site/engvf1000rcourse.htm

[Taz]

I stand by the "shit" i'm apparently talking. I loved mine and it was a great ride.

[Taz]

Ok Pete - been thru the posts again just to make sure I missed nothing.

Post #8 - You don't like them.

Post #21 - You don't like them.

Post #41 - You don't like them.

Post #52 - You don't like them.

And no one else is allowed to like them or disagree with you either.

Did I miss anything?

[T.W.R]

Another one that's been sorted :yes:

The inlay article "R RATED" sums them up

[Crasherfromwayback]

Try finding a test article on one of these by any of the magazines of the era :yes:
The reluctance of Honda to allow tests to be done says something in itself




One man's shit is another man's gold, and your word isn't gospel

Doesn't mean diddly. And rubbishing someone else's experiences of a certain machine doesn't do your own reputation any good either.

First of all...you yourself said they were no good mate...so make up your mind. Secondly...never have I said my word is gospel. It's simply my (and many others) opinion that they're shit, and were in fact not as good as other bikes around at the time. If people love them...great. I've also mentioned in my posts that I've owned plenty of bikes I loved that were heaps of shit! But I don't get all precious if someone calls them shit...because they fucking were!


Ok Pete - been thru the posts again just to make sure I missed nothing.

Post #8 - You don't like them.

Post #21 - You don't like them.

Post #41 - You don't like them.

Post #52 - You don't like them.

And no one else is allowed to like them or disagree with you either.

Did I miss anything?

Yep. You missed the point that just because you don't see many for sale or around anymore, doesn't make them collectable or worth good money. Because they weren't actually that good mate! Wether you loved yours or not.

I'm glad you loved yours. I loved my ZX1100A1 (similar era) too...and it was a heavy pile of plop too. Not many people liked them or rated them...and I couldn't care less. But if someone here said they were heavy piles of plop, I'd not tell them they were talking shit and had no balls as you did. Because it's their opinion and they're welcome to it.

Comprende?

[T.W.R]

First of all...you yourself said they were no good mate...so make up your mind. Secondly...never have I said my word is gospel. It's simply my (and many others) opinion that they're shit, and were in fact not as good as other bikes around at the time. If people love them...great. I've also mentioned in my posts that I've owned plenty of bikes I loved that were heaps of shit! But I don't get all precious if someone calls them shit...because they fucking were!


I pointed out the well known quirks of the bike, you're the one that's doing the " They're SHIT" preaching :yes:

You are getting all precious about people defending bikes they've owned and had long term relationships with in response to your total bagging.

And don't keep using the "I've been in the industry x years & owned X amount of bikes" that as I said doesn't mean diddly. Pouring scorn on someone elses bike or dispelling someone elses experience with said machine doesn't do yourself any good, and coming from yourself who is in the industry as a salesman shows a fair bit of unprofessionalism :yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

I pointed out the well known quirks of the bike, you're the one that's doing the " They're SHIT" preaching :yes:


Bit rich coming from you mate. Only the other day your were preaching all about how the industry works, even though you were way off the mark. And secondly...I'm here on a personal level...not on business.

[T.W.R]

Bit rich coming from you mate. Only the other day your were preaching all about how the industry works, even though you were way off the mark. And secondly...I'm here on a personal level...not on business.

I was reflecting what I'd seen 1st hand by a dealership that I literally told to shove it due to their total lack of knowledge when it came motorcycling in general :yes:
You aren't here on a personal level, in this thread maybe but there's plenty of posts you've put up that are on a business level or at least drumming up business for the dealership you work for, and the general population of members on the site know full well where you are & what you do; so in the grand picture you are representing who you work for :yes:

[Taz]

And you're the one who brought the balls into it :lol: Intelligent fella aint ya. Probably why you're still in the trade :).

[Crasherfromwayback]

And you're the one who brought the balls into it :lol: Intelligent fella aint ya. Probably why you're still in the trade :).

Intelligent enough to make a good living out of what is actually a lifestyle rather than a job.

Being surrounded by nice bike and dealing with mostly good people is hardly what I'd call hard work.

But you're obviously a rocket scientist or similar , so good for you. Funny how it's you that wants to get personal because I dare insult your beloved VFR though.

I'd still like you to show me any sort of test that raves about them though.

[Taz]

Intelligent enough to make a good living out of what is actually a lifestyle rather than a job.

Being surrounded by nice bike and dealing with mostly good people is hardly what I'd call hard work.

But you're obviously a rocket scientist or similar , so good for you. Funny how it's you that wants to get personal because I dare insult your beloved VFR though.

I'd still like you to show me any sort of test that raves about them though.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This has been great fun! But alas all good things must come to an end.

[White trash]

This thread is freakin AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smash those Honda riding poofters Crasher!!! Everyone knows the only true classic Honda ever made that's worth owning is the unburstable MVX250.

Fags.

[HenryDorsetCase]

You boys!!! Play nicely!!!

Since I started this thread originally, I am hoping to have the last word in it.

I didnt buy the bike.

I had some of the money organised then two weeks before we were due to go on holiday, our hot water cylinder shit itself, so that screwed that.

Not that I couldn't find five grand if I absolutely had to, its just that I basically decided that it might be better off in the category of fond dreams, rather than having them completely fucked over by reality. A guy I know always desperately wanted an E Type Jag, and eventually he got one. A really really good one: the pukka one: short wheel base, 6 cylinder Mk 2 (?I think it was). Beautiful car.

But he sold it after a year or so. Because driving while wearing rose tinted specs is not the good look, and the collision between beautifully maintained and refurbished but still 40 year old reality, and adolescent fantasy wasn't that great.

Probably thats the reason why I havent bought a Lamborghini Countach LP460.

Probably.

For what its worth, I think that particular example was a good, straight, tidy wellmaintained one, which would have been lovely to look at in the garage (its primary purpose) and fun for a Sunday afternoon blast once a month in summer.

Never say never, but the plan is on the back burner for now.

I might just buy a Harley, and a dirt bike.

or that DT1 on tardme for $6500 (its a bargain: you couldn't do half of whats been done to that for the money he is asking....)

or something. Another SOHC Honda? A CB450 twin?

another SRX600 or GB400/500?

suggestions here please. I am nothing if not malleable.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You boys!!! Play nicely!!!


Stop being so sensible and reasonable.

[Crasherfromwayback]

This thread is freakin AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smash those Honda riding poofters Crasher!!! Everyone knows the only true classic Honda ever made that's worth owning is the unburstable MVX250.

Fags.

Awesome doesn't begin to desribe it.

And you're wrong too.

A CX400 Euro is THE Honda to beat all Hondas. The PC800 was a gorgeous jem too.

[dangerous]

This thread is freakin AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smash those Honda riding poofters Crasher!!! Everyone knows the only true classic Honda ever made that's worth owning is the unburstable MVX250.

Fags.fark you noddie *chuckles* the best ever true blue classic HONDA.. is the CX500 sex on wheels chopper :whistle:



I stand by the "shit" i'm apparently talking. I loved mine and it was a great ride.
and thats.. all that matters



I've actually ridden just about every bike you could care to name. And as far as balls go...I've got a set that would make yours look like peas.
Moto Morini Corsoro?
MV Tamborini?
and my nads would make yours look like poppy seads :woohoo:

hey taking the piss here aye CFWB

Anyway on a serious note... the CX is a farking cool bike, ya cant denigh it... just kidding what I mean is we can all have our opionions and FWIW IMHO the VF1000R is a great machine no SBK winner but any bike that goes for ever is a sucess.

[Crasherfromwayback]

and my nads would make yours look like poppy seads :woohoo:



Jesus...how do you even get pants that fit then?

[nudemetalz]

Awesome doesn't begin to desribe it.

And you're wrong too.

A CX400 Euro is THE Honda to beat all Hondas. The PC800 was a gorgeous jem too.

They're all bollocks.....

This is the REAL Honda to own......
CB250T...with this genuine HRC race conversion kit...

<a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v677/turbo_NZ/?action=view&current=20090304_491696.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/turbo_NZ/20090304_491696.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Crasherfromwayback]

[QUOTE=nudemetalz;1129861232]They're all bollocks.....

This is the REAL Honda to own......
CB250T...with this genuine HRC race conversion kit...

QUOTE]

Choice. Even has the exhaust system from Dani Pedrosa's RCV fitted!

[dangerous]

This is the REAL Honda to own......
CB250T... Had one ;)

[nudemetalz]

Had one ;)

ha, I had a CB250N,..found out as a 17yo it could be (protestingly) made to rev to 14,000rpm..hehehehe

Sorry off the track here with VF'R talk..

[HenryDorsetCase]

my first road bike was a GSX400 and I used to ride with a guy who had a CB400N. The GSX was a far far better bike.

bought it at Wellington MOtorcycles actually.