Birds on bikes

[Maha]

Or to be more pc about it....Women who rides Motorcycles.
An observation while reading Bike Mags is that, all articles about new bikes are written from a male point of view. Are women not considered able enough to get a mention when it comes summing up a bikes performance?

For example, the ZX14 is looked upon as being suited for a 'bigger bloke'.
Why not a bigger female?
It seems a rather sexist view to me.
Alot of female bikers ride high performance bikes, its not an exclusive male thing by any means.

So come on Bike Mag people, even out the gender gap a tad please.

[Suntoucher]

Marketers appeal to the largest target market. Nothing sexist about it, just less money.

[Gremlin]

nonsense, haven't we all seen the threads and pictures of how they park? :dodge: best be running now :chase:

[jellywrestler]

Or to more pc about it....Women who rides Motorcycles.
An observation while reading Bike Mags is that, all articles about new bikes are written from a male point of view. Are women not considered able enough to get a mention when it comes summing up a bikes performance?

For example, the ZX14 is looked upon as being suited for a 'bigger bloke'.
Why not a bigger female?
It seems a rather sexist view to me.
Alot of female bikers ride high performance bikes, its not an exclusive male thing by any means.

So come on Bike Mag people, even out the gender gap a tad please.
yeah they don't consider racing sidecar passengers to be human either, they only list the riders in piccies and results. Wonder if any of their staff have the nads to even sit on one let alone compete?

[MsKABC]

We shall continue to ride our high performance bikes, enjoying the attitudes of forward-thinking blokes like you, and the positive attentions of the men riding behind us as we re-adjust our positions on our seats :shifty: We'll just ignore the plonkers who write the magazines and buy their bikes anyway, enjoying the fact that our "made-for-smaller-blokes" sprotsbikes fit us like a glove, whilst laughing at those poor buggers taller than 6' hunch down on their go-fast machines :D

[2wheeldrifter]

Doesn't Lula test bikes for Motorcycle trader?

[Little Miss Trouble]

Women who ride motorbikes tend to be strong/self assured enough to not need to be pandered to every step of the way in what is naturally a male dominted past time.
Personally I couldn't give a rats arse whether an article about a new bike was written from a male or female perspective - as long as the female perspective doesn't have any gag-in-my-helmet type comments such as "has just enough under seat storage for your lippy"

[2wheeldrifter]

Women who ride motorbikes tend to be strong/self assured enough to not need to be pandered to every step of the way in what is naturally a male dominted past time.
Personally I couldn't give a rats arse whether an article about a new bike was written from a male or female perspective - as long as the female perspective doesn't have any gag-in-my-helmet type comments such as "has just enough under seat storage for your lippy"

Which lips are you talking about here? seen some shockers that wouldn't fit under any seat!

[AllanB]

I've seen plenty of pictures of women on bikes in the magazines.

For example the lady below - I can tell that she is a real lady as she is sitting side saddle.

[Gone Burger]

From personal experience, there does seem to be plenty of recognition and support for us girl on bikes out there. I have been very surprised to find this along the way, as it just wasn't an expectation of mine, and I was O.K with that. Whilst our numbers don't quite match up to male riders, an ever increasing number of girls get going in the biking world and are doing bloody well - it's simply awesome to see.

I have attended some women only training days too, that cater for women who would like to gain some skills in a slightly different environment from what they may or may not be used to. Great days indeed, lead by Karel Parvich who has had a lot of first hand experience being in the minority on many occasions.

The magazines take on things may just be a little behind - it seems to be a fast evolving scene for the girls, and I'm sure they will catch up soon enough with a change of tone. Actually, I believe it was last month or the month before that Kiwi Rider had a 3 pages spread on Karels training for women, and it was great to see! Even got a glimpse of the Keeway on the track which made me laugh!

[2wheeldrifter]

I've seen plenty of pictures of women on bikes in the magazines.

For example the lady below - I can tell that she is a real lady as she is sitting side saddle.

Good point Allan... I like your research into this topic

:clap:

[Grubber]

Women who ride motorbikes tend to be strong/self assured enough to not need to be pandered to every step of the way in what is naturally a male dominted past time.
Personally I couldn't give a rats arse whether an article about a new bike was written from a male or female perspective - as long as the female perspective doesn't have any gag-in-my-helmet type comments such as "has just enough under seat storage for your lippy"

Well done! Great attitude!
Ya don't see any mention of men in the local sewing circles or the need for a mention whats more.
There will always be a small amount of male, female dominance in some parts of our lives.
If your a girl and ride a bike, just go out and enjoy the thing and lets not get all PC about it. Nobody really gives a shite on the male side of things to be fair.

[Banditbandit]

as long as the female perspective doesn't have any gag-in-my-helmet type comments such as "has just enough under seat storage for your lippy"

Hmm .. that describes the storage space on my Bandit exactly ...

[Crazy Steve]

Or to more pc about it....Women who rides Motorcycles.
An observation while reading Bike Mags is that, all articles about new bikes are written from a male point of view. Are women not considered able enough to get a mention when it comes summing up a bikes performance?

For example, the ZX14 is looked upon as being suited for a 'bigger bloke'.
Why not a bigger female?
It seems a rather sexist view to me.
Alot of female bikers ride high performance bikes, its not an exclusive male thing by any means.

So come on Bike Mag people, even out the gender gap a tad please.

Women should be home making babies ! Preferbly Man child !

Crazy Steve.

[Mom]

Preferbly Man child ! Crazy Steve.

Sugar and spice and all things nice - that's what little girls are made of.
Slugs and snails and puppy dog tails - that's what little boys are made of.

[Max Preload]

Or to more pc about it....Women who rides Motorcycles.
An observation while reading Bike Mags is that, all articles about new bikes are written from a male point of view. Are women not considered able enough to get a mention when it comes summing up a bikes performance?I'm just not sure exactly how it would fit in around their kitchen, laundry and bedroom duties. :scratch:

[Maha]

Women should be home making babies ! Preferbly Man child !

Crazy Steve.


I'm just not sure exactly how it would fit in around their kitchen, laundry and bedroom duties. :scratch:

You two are a match made in heaven :love:

Considerate Maha.

[sondela]

Women who ride motorbikes tend to be strong/self assured enough to not need to be pandered to every step of the way in what is naturally a male dominted past time.
Personally I couldn't give a rats arse whether an article about a new bike was written from a male or female perspective - as long as the female perspective doesn't have any gag-in-my-helmet type comments such as "has just enough under seat storage for your lippy"

Haha there's NO under-seat storage on the Duc..
not even enough room for a tool... :innocent:

[motor_mayhem]

not even enough room for a tool...

double entendre if ever I read one

[crazyhorse]

The local bike shop here have asked my opinion on the tyres I use, and have used. As they feel it is important to know what a female thinks of them, especially with a similar riding style with the men in this region.

They have also thought it would be good to have a female work in their shop too - so guess times are a changing a little with attitudes toward us.

But I think I have seen somewhere, that a lady is test riding bikes for some magazine, just not sure which one - might be over the ditch :yes:

[Maha]

The local bike shop here have asked my opinion on the tyres I use, and have used. As they feel it is important to know what a female thinks of them, especially with a similar riding style with the men in this region.

They have also thought it would be good to have a female work in their shop too - so guess times are a changing a little with attitudes toward us.

But I think I have seen somewhere, that a lady is test riding bikes for some magazine, just not sure which one - might be over the ditch :yes:

Good stuff, we have female mentors on this site, two of which are certified instructors.
You may be talking about Lula who writes an article for Motorcycle Trader?
I always take the time to read her column.

[crazyhorse]

Good stuff, we have female mentors on this site, two of which are certified instructors.
You may be talking about Lula who writes an article for Motorcycle Trader?
I always take the time to read her column.

Think you are right - I have read some of her articles too - good for her to have that opportunity too :niceone:

[rachprice]

Why would women need different advice?

I don't see why having from a chics perspective is going to change what is written, I mean I understand that some are a bit short for some bikes, but so are some dudes.
I wouldn't take advice from an article written by a girl more seriously than I would a guy, they are both equal to me.

I don't feel the need to be treated like something special (not when it comes to bikes anyway) I'd rather be just another rider who loves bikes and riding and racing.

[Edbear]

Women should be home making babies ! Preferbly Man child !

Crazy Steve.

But need man at home to make babies with... :yes: Then they can go riding together... :sunny:

[Gremlin]

hmph... not a single person biting at my terrible post... where is the KB of old? :weep:

More seriously... as with any career, sport, you automatically refer to the person as the default sex, ie, netball, I'm sure there is a lot of annoyed little pansy males out there playing netball, who wish someone would say "him" ... :shutup:

Ok... actually seriously (I'm like a bird with shiny objects)... meh. Shops that ignore females do it to their detriment. A dollar is a dollar, you miss out, someone else gets it. Ladies, if you don't like a shop, don't shop there. Magazines... I would find it very annoying if everything had to be him/her, great bike for large blokes/girls... minor details. Articles for me are about how they handle, problems, issues. No bearing on gender.

Maha... stop stirring the pot :shifty:

[Maha]

Why would women need different advice?

I don't see why having from a chics perspective is going to change what is written, I mean I understand that some are a bit short for some bikes, but so are some dudes.
I wouldn't take advice from an article written by a girl more seriously than I would a guy, they are both equal to me.

I don't feel the need to be treated like something special (not when it comes to bikes anyway) I'd rather be just another rider who loves bikes and riding and racing.

I guess the Bike Mags have it right then?
Who am I to argue?

[Little Miss Trouble]

large blokes/girls...

Also, you could get yourself in a world of trouble using these two words together...

[MsKABC]

But need man at home to make babies with... :yes: Then they can go riding together... :sunny:

Now that is a fantastic idea! Now if only I could find a suitable man to go riding with (and all that other trivial stuff too)....

[Gremlin]

Also, you could get yourself in a world of trouble using these two words together...
Well yes, thats a good point :shit: So you would have to completely alter your sentence structure every time, wasting space that could be used on details.

Then imagine trying to recommend a bike to a lady friend based on their size :blink:

[Maha]

hmph... not a single person biting at my terrible post... where is the KB of old? :weep:

More seriously... as with any career, sport, you automatically refer to the person as the default sex, ie, netball, I'm sure there is a lot of annoyed little pansy males out there playing netball, who wish someone would say "him" ... :shutup:

Ok... actually seriously (I'm like a bird with shiny objects)... meh. Shops that ignore females do it to their detriment. A dollar is a dollar, you miss out, someone else gets it. Ladies, if you don't like a shop, don't shop there. Magazines... I would find it very annoying if everything had to be him/her, great bike for large blokes/girls... minor details. Articles for me are about how they handle, problems, issues. No bearing on gender.

Maha... stop stirring the pot :shifty:

Not everything, thats just stoopid....:shifty:
Na what I ment in the 1st post was (and some do tend to misread ) is that, in most, if not all cases, its a BLOKES bike. Females dont ride in the mud or race bikes and/or ride sports bikes.
They are however, suited to 250's and cruisers, have ya ever noticed that?

[The Pastor]

all women ride 250's anyway.

[Little Miss Trouble]

Females dont ride in the mud or race bikes and/or ride sports bikes.
They are however, suited to 250's and cruisers, have ya ever noticed that?

Really? I think someone forgot to tell me that... Oh no wait, someone did...

They of course got told exactly what they could do with that opinion :shifty:

[Gremlin]

... in most, if not all cases, its a BLOKES bike. Females dont ride in the mud or race bikes and/or ride sports bikes.
I look forward to your reviews of the bikes below, which are hopefully, more suited to the females? coz i sure as shit ain't riding them

<img src=http://www.hiphopcars.com/bikes/girls_pink_bike.jpg>

<img src=http://yeinjee.com/discovery/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/pink-bike.jpg>

[pocketcracker]

Now that is a fantastic idea! Now if only I could find a suitable man to go riding with (and all that other trivial stuff too)....

puts hand up real high but trying not o make eye contact incase you pretend not to see it 10 feet in the air .. and pick the nerdy guy sitting quiet in the cornner.

[Lula]

Good stuff, we have female mentors on this site, two of which are certified instructors.
You may be talking about Lula who writes an article for Motorcycle Trader?
I always take the time to read her column.

Thanks Maha.
Nearly three years ago I created the Heels On Wheels column in Motorcycle Trader because I found that there was nothing representing females in New Zealand's motorcycle media.

I have the opportunity to test ride any of the press bikes that our magazine receives and have ridden a wide variety of bikes giving my review in some of the test articles (including dirt bikes) in order to encourage more ladies and cover off any key aspects that would or would not appeal to the female rider.

Eventually the industry will have more females involved in media and the female rider mentioned in articles, but until the readership surveys show that a larger number of females are reading motorcycle magazines within New Zealand then it will take some time.

[crazyhorse]

............. but until the readership surveys show that a larger number of females are reading motorcycle magazines within New Zealand then it will take some time.

I think that statistics would probably show that there are alot more ladies reading these magazines than they believe. I used to buy them and always read them when I can, and I know a number of other women who always buy them too. Mostly we buy them for us and our man to read.

Good on you for being pro-active too :niceone:

[motor_mayhem]

I look forward to your reviews of the bikes below, which are hopefully, more suited to the females? coz i sure as shit ain't riding them

Seeing that made me want to burn my eyes out.



giving my review in some of the test articles (including dirt bikes).

Where do I find a job like that? Though I spose riding some awesome bikes, the temptation to buy must be the worst kind of torture.

[gazmascelle]

referring to the original post here.. i really can't see why it matters. they could say it would suit a bigger man, woman, or monkey, the comment would still carry the same meaning. as far as i know ive never met a "woman that rides motorcycles" that really cared either

[Maha]

Thanks Maha.
Nearly three years ago I created the Heels On Wheels column in Motorcycle Trader because I found that there was nothing representing females in New Zealand's motorcycle media.

I have the opportunity to test ride any of the press bikes that our magazine receives and have ridden a wide variety of bikes giving my review in some of the test articles (including dirt bikes) in order to encourage more ladies and cover off any key aspects that would or would not appeal to the female rider.

Eventually the industry will have more females involved in media and the female rider mentioned in articles, but until the readership surveys show that a larger number of females are reading motorcycle magazines within New Zealand then it will take some time.

You have a real enviable job there Lula.
Your last sentence speaks volumes really and clarifies my original question.
I thank you for your input.

[willytheekid]

Why would women need different advice?

I don't see why having from a chics perspective is going to change what is written, I mean I understand that some are a bit short for some bikes, but so are some dudes.
I wouldn't take advice from an article written by a girl more seriously than I would a guy, they are both equal to me.

I don't feel the need to be treated like something special (not when it comes to bikes anyway) I'd rather be just another rider who loves bikes and riding and racing.

:clap:
One of the best replys I have EVER read on this forum!
Equality starts with attitudes like this, and i hope the other girls ..who seem to go out of there way to segragate themselves from the rest of the biker community (Girls only rides/Training/Groups/Forums...etc) read this and truly understand...YOUR NOT SPECIAL! you just ride like the rest of us! and reviews of bikes are just that....a bike review...about a machine that ANY HUMAN CAN RIDE if they so wish or desire.
Get over yourselves ladys and get into your passion...riding!...not seeking attention and self promotion for being a minority.
Rachprice obviously has....and good on her!

PS:Personnally I Don't give a flying rats arse what sex you are!...if ya know your shit...I will listen!

[PrincessBandit]

Women who ride motorbikes tend to be strong/self assured enough to not need to be pandered to every step of the way in what is naturally a male dominted past time.
Personally I couldn't give a rats arse whether an article about a new bike was written from a male or female perspective - as long as the female perspective doesn't have any gag-in-my-helmet type comments such as "has just enough under seat storage for your lippy"

So true LMT, it doesn't bother me the lack of information directed specifically at women riders. I just read articles/ads etc. that interest me either way.

However, I dooooooo have to say that when I ride to work I wear makeup (hair looks like a rats nest but that's another matter) so I'd be quite happy having "just enough storage for my lippy" hahahahaha. Tend to keep the ever handy lip moisturiser in my jacket pocket though rahter than under my seat......

[Grubber]

:clap:
One of the best replys I have EVER read on this forum!
Equality starts with attitudes like this, and i hope the other girls ..who seem to go out of there way to segragate themselves from the rest of the biker community (Girls only rides/Training/Groups/Forums...etc) read this and truly understand...YOUR NOT SPECIAL! you just ride like the rest of us! and reviews of bikes are just that....a bike review...about a machine that ANY HUMAN CAN RIDE if they so wish or desire.
Get over yourselves ladys and get into your passion...riding!...not seeking attention and self promotion for being a minority.
Rachprice obviously has....and good on her!

PS:Personnally I Don't give a flying rats arse what sex you are!...if ya know your shit...I will listen!

You are so right my friend!
How the hell can it be any different from a womans perspective. A bike is a bike isn't it and the riders that i know, hop on one leg at a time, the same as woman. Maybe the apparrel is different and i know i don't wear makeup, but from there on it's a free for all.

[PrincessBandit]

Maybe the apparrel is different and i know i don't wear makeup, but from there on it's a free for all.

Yer, generally our body shapes are a little different in case you weren't aware :msn-wink: but other than that you are pretty well right. Even having less muscles or shorter legs doesn't make us much different on two wheels than lotsa blokes. Bring on the free-for-all woooohooooo

[PrincessBandit]

all women ride 250's anyway.

you're such a bad puppy. you need to be smacked and have your nose rubbed in it (done lovingly of course :love:)

[Fatt Max]

Or to be more pc about it....Women who rides Motorcycles.

For example, the ZX14 is looked upon as being suited for a 'bigger bloke'.
Why not a bigger female?
.

Fuck me gently, gotta get me one of them.......

[Love my Bonnie]

:clap:
One of the best replys I have EVER read on this forum!
Equality starts with attitudes like this, and i hope the other girls ..who seem to go out of there way to segragate themselves from the rest of the biker community (Girls only rides/Training/Groups/Forums...etc) read this and truly understand...YOUR NOT SPECIAL! you just ride like the rest of us! and reviews of bikes are just that....a bike review...about a machine that ANY HUMAN CAN RIDE if they so wish or desire.
Get over yourselves ladys and get into your passion...riding!...not seeking attention and self promotion for being a minority.
Rachprice obviously has....and good on her!

PS:Personnally I Don't give a flying rats arse what sex you are!...if ya know your shit...I will listen!

I prefer to be treated the same as any other rider.
Who fucken cares if I'm a chic!!

[MsKABC]

puts hand up real high but trying not o make eye contact incase you pretend not to see it 10 feet in the air .. and pick the nerdy guy sitting quiet in the cornner.

Well that's a very nice offer, I'll consider it seriously, thank you. And so gentlemanly too - not like some weirdos who send pictures of their arses.... :blink:

[Banditbandit]

I prefer to be treated the same as any other rider.
Who fucken cares if I'm a chic!!

Err ... some of us do ... hate to get it wrong and hit up a member of my own sex ...

[Banditbandit]

Well that's a very nice offer, I'll consider it seriously, thank you. And so gentlemanly too - not like some weirdos who send pictures of their arses.... :blink:

Madam, I'm terribly sorry, but you have mistaken a photo of their faces for a photo of their arses.

[MsKABC]

Madam, I'm terribly sorry, but you have mistaken a photo of their faces for a photo of their arses.

Oh well that's a shame, coz I did think it was rather a nice looking arse.... :shifty:

[george formby]

Well yes, thats a good point :shit: So you would have to completely alter your sentence structure every time, wasting space that could be used on details.

Then imagine trying to recommend a bike to a lady friend based on their size :blink:



"Doe's my bum look big on this?" :shit::yes:

Fortunately, all the women I know who ride would not give a fig about my opinion of their bum. More likely to talk about misting visors or dodgy tarmac.

I think in recent years the profile of women riders has increased a lot in magazines. A lot of gear is now made for women, we have a number of women racers keeping us a breast of their endeavours & the odd review written by a woman.
A few years ago the only woman you find in a mag would be sprawled over a hot Spondon gixxer in Superbike.

[MsKABC]

[/B]

we have a number of women racers keeping us a breast

I think you mean "abreast"....or do you?

[george formby]

I think you mean "abreast"....or do you?

Naughty space bar.:innocent:

[Love my Bonnie]

Err ... some of us do ... hate to get it wrong and hit up a member of my own sex ...

Hit them up for what?:innocent:

[porky]

Not everything, thats just stoopid....:shifty:
Na what I ment in the 1st post was (and some do tend to misread ) is that, in most, if not all cases, its a BLOKES bike. Females dont ride in the mud or race bikes and/or ride sports bikes.
They are however, suited to 250's and cruisers, have ya ever noticed that?


Whoops a bit of a cluster F@@@ their bro! MX its Green & KP are the chics initials i think, and she can ride, blow you and me and half the wannabes on this site into the dust.

But yeah i take your point. This months trader has its girly section dedicated to cloths, or lack of.

[imdying]

Fuck all birds ride motorbikes, end of story really.

[pocketcracker]

Oh well that's a shame, coz I did think it was rather a nice looking arse.... :shifty:

dodgey fullas on this site HEHEHE ! :innocent: and did i read sumthign about a breast also .. :shit:

brb just off to get vajazzled .. opps i mean snake wrangled :shifty:

[Maha]

dodgey fullas on this site HEHEHE ! :innocent: and did i read sumthign about a breast also .. :shit:

brb just off to get vajazzled .. opps i mean snake wrangled :shifty:

1-2-3 ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :rockon:

[Banditbandit]

Hit them up for what?:innocent:

A ride of course .. what else would we be talking about in a motorcycle forum ? :innocent:

[Pixie]

Or to be more pc about it....Women who rides Motorcycles.
An observation while reading Bike Mags is that, all articles about new bikes are written from a male point of view. Are women not considered able enough to get a mention when it comes summing up a bikes performance?

For example, the ZX14 is looked upon as being suited for a 'bigger bloke'.
Why not a bigger female?
It seems a rather sexist view to me.
Alot of female bikers ride high performance bikes, its not an exclusive male thing by any means.

So come on Bike Mag people, even out the gender gap a tad please.

Poor bastard :no: We no longer live under that feminocracy we had to endure for 9 years.
The tyrant has been exiled to New York.

Be free

[Pixie]

The local bike shop here have asked my opinion on the tyres I use, and have used. As they feel it is important to know what a female thinks of them, especially with a similar riding style with the men in this region.

They have also thought it would be good to have a female work in their shop too - so guess times are a changing a little with attitudes toward us.

But I think I have seen somewhere, that a lady is test riding bikes for some magazine, just not sure which one - might be over the ditch :yes:

When they asked "what rubber do you prefer",I don't think they were talking about tyres.:dodge:

[MsKABC]

dodgey fullas on this site HEHEHE ! :innocent: and did i read sumthign about a breast also .. :shit:

brb just off to get vajazzled .. opps i mean snake wrangled :shifty:

What were you doing up so late at night, cowboy? Bit past your bedtime, wasn't it? :whistle: You wanna be careful - you might get sent to bed early next time! :bleh:

:yawn:

[crazyhorse]

When they asked "what rubber do you prefer",I don't think they were talking about tyres.:dodge:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: