Brno MotoGP: forget the racing... [Archive]

slowpoke

13th August 2010, 04:28

...the biggest story will be the news conference afterwards when Rossi is said to be announcing his 2011 plans.

I reckon the two most likely outcomes are:

1. Rossi/Burgess go to Ducati and form the Italian dream team.

This would have the advantage for Ducati of allowing them to withdraw from WSB where they are increasingly struggling. They'd sell all the bikes they'd need to just on the back of the Rossi marketing. Rossi would have the opportunity to win the world championship on a 3rd manufacturer and remove any doubt that he is the GOAT.

2. Rossi/Burgess stay with Yamaha and "encourage" them to dump Lorenzo.

This a good possibility, with no real downside for Yamaha in letting Lorenzo go. They could get Rossi to accept a lesser salary in exchange for dumping the soon to be world champion. They'd still have Rossi (arguably the GOAT) and his cult following, they'd have a spot to groom Spies in the Factory team, they'd be saving a fortune on rider salary's, and Lorenzo would end up on a Ducati where he will probably struggle without the Burgess/Rossi development and setup nous.

It's gonna be interesting!

Wingnut

13th August 2010, 06:38

I'm picking:

- At the moment Yamaha would probably prefer Lorenzo over Rossi

- Rossi to Ducati GP for '11 & '12 and if he wins the championship again, hopefully, a stint in WSBK on the 1198. But probably not. More likely a retirement from 2 wheels........

slowpoke

13th August 2010, 06:50

Dunno, there's not much between Lorenzo and Rossi on the track but the Rossi marketing advantage is HUGE.

Burgess is as important as Rossi, and is the brains behind getting the M1 to work. If he goes to Ducati then I can see Yamaha struggling to keep pace with Ducati and Honda as they improve their bikes.

White trash

13th August 2010, 07:44

Firstly, the GOAT is Ricky Carmichael, not Rossi.

Secondly mate, I think it's the worst kept secret in bike racing that Rossis decision is done. The important part of the equation is whether Burgess goes also. I'd love to see him stay on at Yamaha as Ben Spies R/H man.

Whatever happens, it's sure to be a hell of a lot more interesting than the bulshit racing in the so called "Premier" Class this year.

gixerracer

13th August 2010, 07:53

No way in hell will they let lorenzo go just to keep rossi, Lorenzo will be the next goat and rossi is still the greatest but yamaha will be looking down the road and will do anything to keep him.
If rossi goes to ducati it will possibly be with burgess depends how long he wishes to keep working ? If he wants to stay about I think he will stay with Yam to Groom Spies, Not sure Burgess would enjoy himself at Ducati.
My 2 cents
...the biggest story will be the news conference afterwards when Rossi is said to be announcing his 2011 plans.

I reckon the two most likely outcomes are:

1. Rossi/Burgess go to Ducati and form the Italian dream team.

This would have the advantage for Ducati of allowing them to withdraw from WSB where they are increasingly struggling. They'd sell all the bikes they'd need to just on the back of the Rossi marketing. Rossi would have the opportunity to win the world championship on a 3rd manufacturer and remove any doubt that he is the GOAT.

2. Rossi/Burgess stay with Yamaha and "encourage" them to dump Lorenzo.

This a good possibility, with no real downside for Yamaha in letting Lorenzo go. They could get Rossi to accept a lesser salary in exchange for dumping the soon to be world champion. They'd still have Rossi (arguably the GOAT) and his cult following, they'd have a spot to groom Spies in the Factory team, they'd be saving a fortune on rider salary's, and Lorenzo would end up on a Ducati where he will probably struggle without the Burgess/Rossi development and setup nous.

It's gonna be interesting!

Matt Bleck

13th August 2010, 08:00

Can Rossi do it on the Duc without Burgess is the question, this could be Rossi's biggest mistake!

cmoore

13th August 2010, 08:06

Rossi is very superstitious...he likes his routines...he likes his "sameness".....i don't think he would go without Burgess for that reason as much as he values Burgess ability...so i say yes...Rossi to Ducati...and Lorenzo and Spies take up the Yamaha team....there is no way Yamaha would release The world Champ....even over Rossi....

Maha

13th August 2010, 08:08

Can Rossi do it on the Duc without Burgess is the question, this could be Rossi's biggest mistake!

Probably agree with you, start of the deScent?
Rally Cars may be looking good by 2013.

Look what happened to Barry Sheene, ended up Racing saloon cars and then Trucks!

george formby

13th August 2010, 10:39

roogazza

13th August 2010, 10:54

Crasherfromwayback

13th August 2010, 11:41

Ivan

13th August 2010, 12:25

Burgess has allreadysaid he will go were everhis boy goes? isnt that enough to say he is going to stay with Rossi???

Either way Rossi is the best and him and Hayden would be a mean line up Hayden being my favourite GP rider I dont care what people think the guy sure can ride a bike

Crasherfromwayback

13th August 2010, 12:28

Crasherfromwayback

13th August 2010, 12:33

THIS is also well worth mentioning (again)... Randy = Tuff Cunt

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Aug/100812rydernotes.htm

cmoore

13th August 2010, 12:38

yeah...forgot to add...Im enjoying it to........the racing has been great so far..and now Rossi is back and getting fitter....even better.....Lorenzo is on fire...but at least 4 or 5 of the top riders can win on any day......game of two halves and all that shit..........and anyway....as long as a Yamaha wins...who cares who's riding it........

svr

13th August 2010, 14:03

Whatever happens, it's sure to be a hell of a lot more interesting than the bulshit racing in the so called "Premier" Class this year.

Yeah, bunch of overrated pussies. The fantastic action witnessed in the aussie ute series is really showing up motoGP boys aye? Or maybe if they all just tried that bit harder the racing would be more interesting and less "bulshit"?!

Duke girl

13th August 2010, 15:04

I think Rossi has done and achieved what he has with Yamaha and it would be good to see him move onto bigger and better things like joining forces with Ducati.
Lorenzo will stay with Yamaha and try to achieve exactly what Rossi has with them over the years.
Whatever the outcome Rossi choices with his Racing l wish him luck and no-one can deny him the achievements he has done when it comes to Moto GP.
He truly is a very talented rider.

White trash

13th August 2010, 16:28

Yeah, bunch of overrated pussies. The fantastic action witnessed in the aussie ute series is really showing up motoGP boys aye? Or maybe if they all just tried that bit harder the racing would be more interesting and less "bulshit"?!

It's got nothing to do with who's "trying" and who's not. The "bulshit" comes from 16 bikes on a start grid. Then 11 of them finish with a grand total of 3 televised passes all race long. That blow you away from a spectators perspective? You need to get out more my man. The minor places are far more interesting in the "main event" and even that's not close to the awesome spectacle that's Moto2. Perhaps something can be learnt from the ute/taxi series accross the ditch? Put em all on Moto2 bikes, with a "top tier" in the premier class with a minimum field of 30 bikes, minimum experience of 2 years in Moto2 or a previous world championship with the exception of "wild card" rides which a rider can not use more than two of per season without the before mentioned qualifications.

Oh, nah, I'd rather watch (without a doubt) the best riders in the world running around in proceession on the prototype pinacle of motorcycling engineering we now enjoy. Yawn. No wonder I fall asleep after the first lap. Get real.

I don't give a toss whether these guys are the absolute ducks nuts on a bike or not, it's boring to watch. And eventually, if enough people agree it's boring to watch, they'll stop watching. And if everyone stops watching, there'll be no reward for sponsorship. And if there's no sponsorship, there's no money. And then, oh yeah, holy shit we might as well watch the swamp buggy racing from Florida because there's nothing else happening.

I don't doubt the skill, dedication or sheer bloody mindedness that it takes to get "there". Just stating that I'd rather have an early night and a nice shag than sit up by myself to watch the usual suspects do 30 laps in the so called "World Champs"

cmoore

13th August 2010, 16:36

it's all good to me.....the riding's good the bikes are good...i don't expect a last corner "overtake to win" in every race....I do enjoy lorenzo or Dani racing out front...seeing those guys blow the others away is cool to me....class is class......

Ivan

13th August 2010, 16:39

i only now watch last 10 laps of 125 the whole moto 2 and go to bed for the main GP I only watch quailfying for the GP now its more entertaining someone 30 seconds ahead is boring to me

Crasherfromwayback

13th August 2010, 16:48

. Just stating that I'd rather have an early night and a nice shag than sit up by myself to watch the usual suspects do 30 laps in the so called "World Champs"

I think you'd change your mind if you went to a GP. And since when have you been able to supply a nice shag?

White trash

13th August 2010, 17:26

And since when have you been able to supply a nice shag?

Never pretended to be able, however, Susan is more than adequately skilled in that department. Although, I expect you'll be taking my word for it.

Back to MotoGp. You telling me the racing's well worth sitting there @ 02:00 on a Monday morning to watch? Didn't think so....

svr

13th August 2010, 18:15

It's got nothing to do with who's "trying" and who's not. The "bulshit" comes from 16 bikes on a start grid. Then 11 of them finish with a grand total of 3 televised passes all race long. That blow you away from a spectators perspective? You need to get out more my man...
(etc.) ... Get real.

I don't give a toss whether these guys are the absolute ducks nuts on a bike or not, it's boring to watch. And eventually, if enough people agree it's boring to watch, they'll stop watching. And if everyone stops watching, there'll be no reward for sponsorship. And if there's no sponsorship, there's no money...
the so called "World Champs"

Having followed the premier class since the KR (senior) days (`got out' to 5 events up close), I can say that its always been like this i.e. generally small grids, 3 riders that start with a chance to win, maybe a couple of key passes, etc. The main difference is that now there's, er, way more sponsorship. bigger crowds and tv audiences.
I utterly failed to appreciate the soccer world cup as a spectacle. At work we speculated how the game could be `fixed', until someone pointed out that several billion fans had no idea it was broken.

Crasherfromwayback

13th August 2010, 18:42

Never pretended to be able, however, Susan is more than adequately skilled in that department. Although, I expect you'll be taking my word for it.

Back to MotoGp. You telling me the racing's well worth sitting there @ 02:00 on a Monday morning to watch? Didn't think so....

Only sassin ya...I've heard you're a ripper shag!

Mate...I can honestly say I love Moto GP racing. More than any other type of motorcycle racing. Always have..always will. The best bikes...with the best riders BY far. Can't beat it...even if there were only five bikes.

Sensei

13th August 2010, 19:05

I don't think Rossi was very keen to have 10+ million taken off his pay check by Yamaha , don't blame him fucked if I would . Ducati will be another challenge for Rossi to sort like he has done with the other bikes he has ridden over the years , so I hope this is the route he takes . :Punk:

NZsarge

13th August 2010, 19:17

Read an interesting article by Colin Edwards in the latest Aussie Motorcycle news regarding their bike etc. He has high praise for Spies. Mind you...he would seeing as Spies is kicking his ass.

If Spies goes to the works Yamaha team and the bike remains competitive I think Lorenzo (and everyone else) is gonna have a battle on his hands in a year or two, reckon he's the real deal that fulla.

Wish the Thous were back next year though.
Agreed....

Oh.. and bring on Crutchlow too...

BIG DOUG

13th August 2010, 22:43

Isn't it ironic that rossi say's to yamaha "get rid of lorenzo or I'll leave" sound's like someone running scared from the pretender to his crown f**king pussy,even fully fit he wouldn't have bet lorenzo this year.

roadracingoldfart

13th August 2010, 23:08

Rossi will go to Ducati , J.B. will tag along and regret it after next year, Lorenzo will win next year again .
J.B. is a god but lets remember Lorenzo is where he is without J.Bs. input to his ride.

J.B. will be missed , look at WSB Ducati after Tardozzi .... they are fucked for direction.

Im more interested in who will be the Honda riders next year.

slowpoke

13th August 2010, 23:45

Agreed....

Oh.. and bring on Crutchlow too...

Haha, Crutchlow is one guy I'm happy to see struggle. Definitely not one of the paddocks "nice guys".

Having followed the premier class since the KR (senior) days (`got out' to 5 events up close), I can say that its always been like this i.e. generally small grids, 3 riders that start with a chance to win, maybe a couple of key passes, etc. The main difference is that now there's, er, way more sponsorship. bigger crowds and tv audiences.
I utterly failed to appreciate the soccer world cup as a spectacle. At work we speculated how the game could be `fixed', until someone pointed out that several billion fans had no idea it was broken.

Dunno 'bout that. The grids may not have been any more full but some of the battles back in the late 80's/90's were epic: Lawson, Rainey, Schwantz, Gardner, Sarron, Magee etc. Even close to home you had those 2 amazing Australian Grand Prix in 89, 90, multiple bikes battling on the last lap. Then there were the amazing slip streaming mind games at close to 200mph in Europe.

Isn't it ironic that rossi say's to yamaha "get rid of lorenzo or I'll leave" sound's like someone running scared from the pretender to his crown f**king pussy,even fully fit he wouldn't have bet lorenzo this year.

No pussy, he's just pissed off that Lorenzo is ridng on the back of the development work that he and Burgess have done. They've taken the M1 from an also ran to the best bike in the paddock. Why would anyone want a serious competitor to have access to all your hard work?

Lorenzo is good, but neither he or his crew have got the development smarts that Rossi and Burgess have. Hence I'm hoping Rossi and Burgess go to Ducati and kick arse.

slowpoke

13th August 2010, 23:54

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J.B. is a god but lets remember Lorenzo is where he is without J.Bs. input to his ride.

Waddayamean? JB built his ride. I read a write up about when JB and Rossi first rode Biaggi's M1. Rossi reckoned it was a pig, pushing the front, couldn't turn or brake (remember Biaggi losing the front all time?). JB was all smiles 'cos he'd been there and done that with the NSR and knew what the problem was: raise engine and COG. The rest is history. Lorenzo is well and truly reaping the reward from Rossi and Burgess's hard work.

NZsarge

14th August 2010, 06:51

Haha, Crutchlow is one guy I'm happy to see struggle. Definitely not one of the paddocks "nice guys". .

Hmm ok, please elaborate on that statement, i'd like to know how you know he's not one of "the nice guys". Not septic mate just interested.

slowpoke

14th August 2010, 07:32

Hmm ok, please elaborate on that statement, i'd like to know how you know he's not one of "the nice guys". Not septic mate just interested.

He's a good rider, but the articles I've read (nightshift's can be a fuggin' drag sometimes I tell ya) paint a picture of cocky arrogant arsehole who pissed off lotsa folks in BSB, then spruiked himself up in WSS. I take the articles with a grain of salt but even fans in the UK struggle with his attitude. I wouldn't wish a crash on anyone but I love seeing him finish behind Rea and Haslam on last years championship winning bike.

NZsarge

14th August 2010, 07:35

Fair enough mate, not everyone has to like everyone.

gixerracer

14th August 2010, 09:01

Waddayamean? JB built his ride. I read a write up about when JB and Rossi first rode Biaggi's M1. Rossi reckoned it was a pig, pushing the front, couldn't turn or brake (remember Biaggi losing the front all time?). JB was all smiles 'cos he'd been there and done that with the NSR and knew what the problem was: raise engine and COG. The rest is history. Lorenzo is well and truly reaping the reward from Rossi and Burgess's hard work.

Honestly do you people all live in f___ng caves with Rossi pictures on the wall????
Dont get me wrong I think Rossi is God like and will be a long time b4 we C another GOAT in moto gp but did Burgess and Rossi help Lorenzo win his 250 and 125 races etc NO How many Motogp races has he won while Rossi and Bugess were away Almost all of them, Do you think they ran the same setup from the last race meeting Rossi gave them??? Come on dicks wake up this guy is the MAN I am not a big fan but the Dude is good:yes:

BMWST?

14th August 2010, 11:29

Honestly do you people all live in f___ng caves with Rossi pictures on the wall????
Dont get me wrong I think Rossi is God like and will be a long time b4 we C another GOAT in moto gp but did Burgess and Rossi help Lorenzo win his 250 and 125 races etc NO How many Motogp races has he won while Rossi and Bugess were away Almost all of them, Do you think they ran the same setup from the last race meeting Rossi gave them??? Come on dicks wake up this guy is the MAN I am not a big fan but the Dude is good:yes:

Lorenzo iS good,but he has always had very good equipment.Whatever the pros and conx of each individual and team I think we are going to have some very interesting times ahead.The grids may be small but i think the closeness of the racing is the best for years,in that the feild is much more compact.I think we are going to see some really good mid pack races with Hayden,dovi,simoncelli,melandri,spies,depuniet,the n maybe another group of espargo,edwards,kallio,bautista,capirossi.

White trash

14th August 2010, 11:38

pritch

14th August 2010, 12:44

I don't think Rossi was very keen to have 10+ million taken off his pay check by Yamaha ,

He was reportedly not too upset by that. Until he found that Lorenzo was going to get most of it...

I still think that it would have been been in the best interests of all involved if Honda could have swallowed their pride and sent a message, "Come back Jerry and Vale, all is forgiven."

For several reasons I think that Yamaha will start a graceful slide from their present competitive position, and not just because it appears that Ducati will have all their secrets?

There have been a couple of references to Lorenzo being the next GOAT. By definition there can only be one GOAT. On total GP wins at present it is still Ago, but Rossi is racking up all sorts of records of his own.

I await Rossi's announcement with interest.

It'll also be interesting to see if Elias can overcome the penalty of his Friday practice ban.

george formby

14th August 2010, 13:35

Brno, forget the racing? Well, add gorgeous Czech paddock girls & probably the best beer in the world to the mix & you probably would. :shutup:

jasonu

14th August 2010, 18:41

[QUOTE
Even close to home you had those 2 amazing Australian Grand Prix in 89, 90, multiple bikes battling on the last lap.

Those are my favorite races of all time, especially the 1990 when WG did a massive near highside which broke the fairing brackets and the belly pan was rubbing on the rear wheel. Didn't know if hew would crash or not and funny thing was his top speed increased with the wanked fairing.
Shame KSwantz crashed out early, could have been a 3 way battle with him, WG and Doohan...

BIG DOUG

14th August 2010, 21:30

Hasn't yamaha had a wall between lorenzo and rossi for a couple of years,if thats the case lorenzo doesn't need a homo lilke rossi to set his bike up, he now no's how to do it.

slowpoke

15th August 2010, 01:10

Honestly do you people all live in f___ng caves with Rossi pictures on the wall????
Dont get me wrong I think Rossi is God like and will be a long time b4 we C another GOAT in moto gp but did Burgess and Rossi help Lorenzo win his 250 and 125 races etc NO How many Motogp races has he won while Rossi and Bugess were away Almost all of them, Do you think they ran the same setup from the last race meeting Rossi gave them??? Come on dicks wake up this guy is the MAN I am not a big fan but the Dude is good:yes:

Go make ya self useful and change the signage on the truck would ya?

No argument Lorenzo is blardy good, amazing talent at what, 22? 23? But he's also inherited the best bike in the paddock off Burgess and Rossi. I just don't see don't see Lorenzo and his crew having the same development ability.

It's hard not to like Rossi, but I'm not a cult member. Burgess and his guys are half the the equation that I don't think get enough credit. You never know though, we could well be seeing the changing of the guard.

Oi...you finished with that truck yet? Fark me, just as well you aren't that slow on the track mate.....

eelracing

15th August 2010, 15:09

Oh, nah, I'd rather watch (without a doubt) the best riders in the world running around in proceession on the prototype pinacle of motorcycling engineering we now enjoy. Yawn. No wonder I fall asleep after the first lap. . Just stating that I'd rather have an early night and a nice shag than sit up by myself to watch the usual suspects do 30 laps in the so called "World Champs"

I'm gonna bite coz ignorance has no place in this arguement.

You're an obvious johnny cum lately or else you would know GP racing aint about the show but the challenge of racing the best riders on the best bikes...afterall you have Moto2/Superbikes/sport 600 etc if all you want is close racing.

True GP racing fans get off on the human/technical battle as well.When a rival rider has an effective advantage be it skill or technical,that is when a true champion will step up.

Anyone remember Honda coming back with a V3 after the NR embarrassment and taking on Kenny Roberts on the powerfull (but unwieldy)V4 Yamaha.It took the skills of a man called Freddie to win on the less powerfull but sweeter handling Honda...brilliant racing ensued.

Edde Lawson swapped to the hugely powerfull but flighty Honda and had his ass handed to him for the 1st half the season by Rainey/Yamaha.What did he do? He and Erv cut and braced that Honda frame to within an inch of it's life and Eddie physically rode the "bitch" harder than he had any bike before it and pressured Rainey into throwing the Championship away.For that was the make-up of the man.

Doohan was under pressure from Criville who was catching and increasingly beating him.Mick then decided to go back to the screamer engine and trounced him...nothing to do with the bike but more to do with the fact that the other riders were out phsyced by a percieved advantage.
Having Criville try out the screamer and highsiding his brains out on it helped as well.

Rossi goes to Yamaha to prove the naysayers wrong about the supposed Honda advantage etc etc the list is endless and now the Ducati/Rossi pairing maybe another???

Get ya shags in early coz next year is gonna be a ripper.

Dave-

15th August 2010, 20:30

ben spies on the podium.

rest doesnt matter.

Mental Trousers

15th August 2010, 20:49

Can Rossi do it on the Duc without Burgess is the question, this could be Rossi's biggest mistake!

Indeed. I reckon Burgess will want to stick with Yamaha and work with Ben Spies. Burgess is someone who can spot and develop champions and I reckon he'll be wanting to take Spies right to the top.

Yamaha will stay with Lorenzo rather than Rossi. They'll look to the future.

Okey Dokey

16th August 2010, 08:24

Does anyone know whether Burgess & Co are going to Ducati with Rossi, or not?

slowpoke

16th August 2010, 08:31

Does anyone know whether Burgess & Co are going to Ducati with Rossi, or not?

Burgess said earlier in the season that he would go where Rossi went....but has yet to be confirmed.

Okey Dokey

16th August 2010, 10:52

Cheers for that, slowpoke :)

roogazza

16th August 2010, 11:49

Bradley Smith had problems again fading from pole to about 7th and then up to 5th.(inspite of his support team in commentary).
Seems the Mexicans are just too fast for him. G.

CHOPPA

16th August 2010, 13:21

Bradley Smith is such a winga!

Crasherfromwayback

16th August 2010, 13:41

Bradley Smith is such a winga!

And a ginga!

Ivan

16th August 2010, 14:10

And a ginga!

Hey no need to be like that Ginga's are cool

wharfy

16th August 2010, 16:04

Probably agree with you, start of the deScent?
Rally Cars may be looking good by 2013.

Look what happened to Barry Sheene, ended up Racing saloon cars and then Trucks!

People said that when he left Honda - The Yamaha was a dog until he and Burgess got stuck into it.

Matt Bleck

16th August 2010, 16:25

People said that when he left Honda - The Yamaha was a dog until he and Burgess got stuck into it.

Hence the "can he do it WITHOUT Burgess?" post. :D

gav

16th August 2010, 20:09

Im pretty sure Stoners crew were told to start looking for jobs elsewhere quite a while ago. That should be a reasonable hint. :yes:
It will be interesting to see if Ducati stay in WSBK. Ducati has always had a policy of selling race bikes and racing what they sell. Also it was WSBK that saved Ducati, wonder how they will feel about quitting the series? Other wise they may just make Carlos Checas team the official factory team and leave them to it. And how much pressure is on Ducati now to win with Rossi on board? :blink:

pritch

16th August 2010, 22:00

Money might not be too short in Bologna. I still can't find whether Rossi is taking his crew with him, but it already reported that he is taking Fiat with him when he goes.

slowpoke

16th August 2010, 22:55

Money might not be too short in Bologna. I still can't find whether Rossi is taking his crew with him, but it already reported that he is taking Fiat with him when he goes.

Blardy hell, it's an Italian overdose! No suprises for guessing the kind of food they serve in the sponsors tent: "I 'opa youa lika da pasta Meesta Borgees!".

Dutchee

16th August 2010, 23:11

I won't be surprised to see Burgess not head to Ducati, but won't be surprised if he does.
When Rossi moved to Yamaha, Burgess was looking at retiring, but The Doctor convinced him otherwise. Over a decade later, maybe he will go through with his retirement plans.
He doesn't feature as much the last few years as what he used to.
I don't imagine that Rossi won't be taking one or more of his people over to Ducati though. Hmm, just thinking about it, Rossi's superstitious, he'll be pestering Burgess to come over with him, but whether he's successful or not, time will tell. The Doctor won't be prepared to work with a whole new team.
Might make next year a more interesting year than it is so far this year. George just ain't got the x factor and when the Herald posts the fact he won a race, I'm tempted to not even bother watching it.

wharfy

17th August 2010, 12:53

I George just ain't got the x factor and when the Herald posts the fact he won a race, I'm tempted to not even bother watching it.

Hmm.. I think he is pretty good to watch, fast and smooth, the X factor thing I think takes a bit of time to show, 2 or 3 MotoGP titles under his belt will help.

He looks like the neXt Rossi to me :)

rachprice

17th August 2010, 16:05

Yeah I think he is amazing to watch because he makes it look effortless, a lot of the others end up looking ragged trying to keep up with him!

slowpoke

18th August 2010, 01:43

Yeah I think he is amazing to watch because he makes it look effortless, a lot of the others end up looking ragged trying to keep up with him!

Didn't look so effortless last year! He looked like he should be carryin' oxygen as he kept launching himself into space.

Crasherfromwayback

18th August 2010, 08:12

Didn't look so effortless last year! He looked like he should be carryin' oxygen as he kept launching himself into space.

Show's you much can change in one season eh!

rachprice

18th August 2010, 09:41

Didn't look so effortless last year! He looked like he should be carryin' oxygen as he kept launching himself into space.

Wasn't talking about last year....he seems to have found something...

NZsarge

18th August 2010, 09:50

I think like we saw Stoner do he's got his head around what he needs to do and how two to do it in reference to his riding and championship aspirations.

roogazza

18th August 2010, 10:37

George just ain't got the x factor and when the Herald posts the fact he won a race, I'm tempted to not even bother watching it.

Dutchee, did you not watch Horhay in his earlier years ? In 250 he was special and World Champ. G. :blink:

cmoore

18th August 2010, 12:28

speaking of a Pasta take over.....the list of Spanish riders in the lower classes makes you wonder what the GP will look like in a few years.....most of the names are un pronounceable now.....

pritch

18th August 2010, 12:57

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-racing-news-moto-gp/burgess-to-quit-motogp/13440.html

Not exactly what I was wanting to read but...

Of course he could be holding out for more money, but he must be getting pissed-off with all the travel and he's probably not exactly hard up.

Brian d marge

18th August 2010, 14:01

We forget that it was Fujisawa , burgess and Rossi , who made the Yamaha , Fujisawa is retiring , burgess is thinking about it , Rossi is italian

Come on NZ moto3 is all new where are the NZers , step up to the plate , make it happen

Stephen

wharfy

18th August 2010, 17:56

pritch

19th August 2010, 11:34

The all Italian "family" might make him an offer he can't refuse :)

Good one. :yes:

I read an interview with Burgess a while back where he basically said that he was unaware Rossi had made it a condition of his move to Yamaha that Burgess and crew went with him. Burgess laughingly said that had he known, he'd have hung out for more money.

We can assume that if the circumstances were similar this time he would know. So it would be natural for him to be "undecided" during the contract negotiations.

It would seem though that there is a real possibility that he may call it quits and head for home.

roogazza

20th August 2010, 14:04

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It would seem though that there is a real possibility that he may call it quits and head for home.[/QUOTE]

Home to the Adelaide hills would be a good bet. If he does he's had a great career.
He has said he might put someone on a bike back home. G

Deano

20th August 2010, 18:15

George just ain't got the x factor and when the Herald posts the fact he won a race, I'm tempted to not even bother watching it.

But he tries soooooo hard with his post win celebrations. Maybe OTT.

Don't get me wrong but it's a little copy cat eh ?

I totally admire his riding.

merv

20th August 2010, 19:25

Two years ago I said this about Burgess http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/84142-MotoGP-manufacturers-800cc-machines-compared.?p=1773438#post1773438

That man is good except now (assuming Rossi can't win this year) his tally will be 13 championships at the top level in 24 years so he's still averaging better than 50%. Not many crew chiefs could match that record. Probably time he's owed a rest back in Oz working with new talent.

emaN

24th August 2010, 20:57

What I wanna know is how Vale's gonna match up his fluoro yellow with that deep vibrant Ducati red! :shifty:

onearmedbandit

24th August 2010, 23:06

Hasn't yamaha had a wall between lorenzo and rossi for a couple of years,if thats the case lorenzo doesn't need a homo lilke rossi to set his bike up, he now no's how to do it.

Take Lorenzo's dick out of your mouth so you can see clearly what the other posters are saying. Burgess and co and Rossi made the M1 into what it is today, a class beating championship winning machine. Just by riding the damn thing Lorenzo is benefiting from their setup. Which begs the question, could Lorenzo and his crew have done the same?