NZTA: Revoke authorised access to personal details

[breakaway]

Worried about how people can obtain the address your vehicle is registered to with no other details but your registration? Worry no more:

https://transact.nzta.govt.nz/transactions/PersonalInfoAccess/entry.aspx <-- click to 'revoke access' / 'opt-out'


Who has access to my personal information?

Currently, the names and addresses held on the Motor Vehicle Register are publicly available to any person who provides the registration plate number of the vehicle and pays the prescribed fee.


The law is changing

A new law will come into effect on 1 November 2010 that will better protect your personal information on the Motor Vehicle Register. For more information see 'Law changes to protect your personal information (http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licensing/information-law-changes.htm)'

Additional details on these pages:
http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licensing/information.html
http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/registration-licensing/information-law-changes.html

Everyone should do this, immediately. Just did all our vehicles.

Some of you no doubt register your bikes/cars to other places than your homes, but this should work nicely for those of us that do not have that luxury :yes:

[SMOKEU]

I did that a couple of weeks ago to my vehicles. Lets just hope it works as promised.

[ynot slow]

Cheers for that just did bike and car.

[Suntoucher]

Brilliant, just ran my bike through.

[slofox]

Bloody system is down they reckon...bastards!

[rustic101]

Just tried also and its down .........

[Crazy Steve]

Why would anyone register there vehicle to there address ?

Fckin noobs...

Crazy Stevee.

[Blinkwing]

Just did this.

For some reason, it won't recognise the numberplate if you put the letters in caps .. has to be lowercase.

For example, it will recognise gxr, but not GXR.

[xxcbr69xx]

Awsome, thanks for that.

[SMOKEU]

Why would anyone register there vehicle to there address ?

Fckin noobs...

Crazy Stevee.

Where else are you meant to register it to?

[Rockbuddy]

Done both bikes, Cheers for the link

[Grasshopperus]

Yeah, thanks for the link and heads-up

[frogfeaturesFZR]

Cheers !!!

[Malcolm]

Where else are you meant to register it to?

I register my vehicles to my dad's address, also means that if you're flatting or something and change addresses often, you don't have to go changing your rego details (for this reason I get virtually all mail sent to my dad's place)

Anyway, I'm so glad to see they've finally done this, I've always thought it was completely inexplicable that your personal details were so readily available to anyone that wanted them. I'll be changing all my vehicles once my new licence shows up (currently have a paper one since I just got my 6F :Punk: )

[SMOKEU]

I register my vehicles to my dad's address, also means that if you're flatting or something and change addresses often, you don't have to go changing your rego details (for this reason I get virtually all mail sent to my dad's place)

Anyway, I'm so glad to see they've finally done this, I've always thought it was completely inexplicable that your personal details were so readily available to anyone that wanted them. I'll be changing all my vehicles once my new licence shows up (currently have a paper one since I just got my 6F :Punk: )

So your dad doesn't mind the fact that angry cunts may show up to his place looking for you?

[Blinkwing]

So your dad doesn't mind the fact that angry cunts may show up to his place looking for you?

His dad's probably one of them.

[Crazy Steve]

Where else are you meant to register it to?

Anywhere for a START....

Police always have a problem arresting you after a decent chase if they dont have your address.....lol

Crazy Steve.

[skippa1]

all done here

[Malcolm]

So your dad doesn't mind the fact that angry cunts may show up to his place looking for you?

Fortunately I don't think I've really incited anger in other motorists since many years ago when I was a reckless teenager. These days I try to be silly when noone is around to see :) I'm much more concerned about people wanting to get their hands on my toys

[bogan]

done my 4 :D

[slofox]

Just did this.

For some reason, it won't recognise the numberplate if you put the letters in caps .. has to be lowercase.

For example, it will recognise gxr, but not GXR.

It seemed to recognize mine OK when I used upper case...

System worked today. Wagon and bike both dealt to.

Now I guess I can give the "chinese good luck sign" with impunity...:devil2:

[Swoop]

Works fine with caps.

All three done.

[slofox]

Just a question here...regarding the following extract from the confirmatory email NZTA sent me...

"Personal information (including name and address) held on the Motor Vehicle Register for the vehicles listed will no longer be disclosed to third-parties authorised by the Ministry of Transport."


So just who has had their access to said info blocked? Is it ONLY those authorised by MOT? Does this mean that Joe Bikethief can still access the info?

I hope it means everyone but that email suggests otherwise - to me at least.

Anyone know for sure?

[avgas]

Where else are you meant to register it to?
Somewhere you don't live.

How about
30 Aonini Road, Turangi

People are dieing to get in there.

[SMOKEU]

Somewhere you don't live.



Random people would then get my mail.

[Smiff-ta]

If you "opt out" don't lose your ownership papers etc as dealers will not be able to confirm you are the current owner. Which may make things more time consuming when trading etc.

[avgas]

Random people would then get my mail.
Nope - just your fines.

[SMOKEU]

Nope - just your fines.

With my name on the letters. And seeing I'm the only person in NZ with my name, I won't be hard to track down.

[Kornholio]

Done, my Ferrari and my Britten V-1000 are a little bit safer now :Punk:

[Conquiztador]

I never had any of mine registered to my address. Work, sports clubs etc. has always been the addresses.

[breakaway]

Just got a letter from NZTA. Apparently the implementation of this law has been pushed to April 2011. Also, perhaps reading this will shed light as to once the law comes into effect, who can and can't access your details.

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[slofox]

Just got a letter from NZTA. Apparently the implementation of this law has been pushed to April 2011. Also, perhaps reading this will shed light as to once the law comes into effect, who can and can't access your details.



Yeah - I got the same letter. Makes things a little clearer...

[munster]

yup, we got our letters in the weekend too.

[boman]

Yup. Letter recieved also..

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

To dredge up an old thread.

I opted out on all my vehicles.

Just come to sell my car and the buyer is purchasing it through a finance company.

With the opt out in place their finance company (who are an NZTA authorised party) cannot do their checks on the vehicle and verify me as the owner.

So now I have had to write to the NZTA to revoke my original opt out decision.

Long and the short of it - opting out is not a good thing as it just makes it harder when you come to sell your vehicle (where the buyer is using finance).

Here is a link to the contact page of NZTA: http://www.nzta.govt.nz/transact/contact-us.html

You need to message them to revoke your opt out decision. To do this you will need to supply you name, drivers license number and plate number - then ask to revoke your original opt out decision, in the body of the message.

Hopefully this helps others before they come to sell their vehicles (which they have opted out on) and find a nasty little surprise stopping them from doing so.

[davereid]

To dredge up an old thread.

I opted out on all my vehicles.

Just come to sell my car and the buyer is purchasing it through a finance company.

With the opt out in place their finance company (who are an NZTA authorised party) cannot do their checks on the vehicle and verify me as the owner.

So now I have had to write to the NZTA to revoke my original opt out decision.

Long and the short of it - opting out is not a good thing as it just makes it harder when you come to sell your vehicle (where the buyer is using finance).

Here is a link to the contact page of NZTA: http://www.nzta.govt.nz/transact/contact-us.html

You need to message them to revoke your opt out decision. To do this you will need to supply you name, drivers license number and plate number - then ask to revoke your original opt out decision, in the body of the message.

Hopefully this helps others before they come to sell their vehicles (which they have opted out on) and find a nasty little surprise stopping them from doing so.

NZTA are not taking the opt out too seriously.

They appear to be releasing data pretty easily.

Have a look at www.nzprivacy.wordpress.com under the section NZTA opt out of Opt out.

[breakaway]

With the opt out in place their finance company (who are an NZTA authorised party) cannot do their checks on the vehicle and verify me as the owner.

Just what kind of 'checks' do they need to do to make sure that it really is your vehicle?

If you 'opt out', does it stop your name from showing up as registered to a particular vehcile in, for example, a carjam vehcile information report?

[Gman71]

You details will no longer show up in a VIR from motorweb, or any other company, regardless of the 'opt out' thing.
That is the change the govt made on may 1- your details are Supressed to the masses, no need to opt-out.

You can opt back in by calling the NZTA call centre in palm north. It takes about 2 mins.

Only registered vehicle dealers, finance and insurance companies, (and gas stations if you do a runner ) can now access your details. All details have been turned off for everyone else.

So all the lemmings that 'opted-out' in a panic about privacy ( not realising their detais that have been publically available forever and the govt was moving to increase the protection of the info) are now screwed if they want to sell the vehicle, trade it in to a dealer, or get finance. Those companies wil most likely insist you opt back in.

I'd you are buying a vehicle privately, also means you can't detect if there is a joint owner. So buyer beware.

Gotta be careful what you wish for eh? :shit:

[Gman71]

Oh, and what kind of checks do finance companies need to do??

Are you serious!!??


Go and get a $50k personal loan, tell them to use your Ferrari for security, just tell them that you own it, I'm sure they will believe you.

[davereid]

Oh, and what kind of checks do finance companies need to do??Are you serious!!??Go and get a $50k personal loan, tell them to use your Ferrari for security, just tell them that you own it, I'm sure they will believe you.

The registered owner is not necessarily the legal owner. NZTA made the change many years ago.

[breakaway]

^ +1 on that one. I rang up NZTA and asked this question.

Every vehicle has two owners.

1. Registered Owner
2. Actual Owner

The "registered owner" is who would get the fines and junk mailed to them. The actual owner is the person that owns the vehicle. I asked the guy how I could prove that I was the actual owner of the vehicle (the fact that I'm the registered owner can be prooved by the registration papers) and his response was that whenever you buy a vehicle, you should have a piece of paper signed by the seller stating that they sold it to you, the amount it sold for, the date and time along with full names and signatures of all parties involved.

[Gman71]

^ +1 on that one. I rang up NZTA and asked this question.

Every vehicle has two owners.

1. Registered Owner
2. Actual Owner
.

yup that's what they will say, just like they say a divers license isn't an ID, but by default the MVR Registered person always has been, and always will be, the default 'owner' and commercial companies will use this to establish 'ownership'.

It is just NZTA covering their arse reminding you it's not legal ownership. And they a correct.

Can YOU find the sale agreement you got from the dealer when you bought it? Or if you bought it privately did you even get one??? I thought not :facepalm:

[breakaway]

Yeah I can actually, I'm pretty religious about a written sale puchase agreement (my signature, vehicle rego, date, sellers' signature, admission of any serious faults if the vehicle has any) every time I purchase a vehicle. I doubt other people are this vigilant though.

[davereid]

yup that's what they will say, just like they say a divers license isn't an ID, but by default the MVR Registered person always has been, and always will be, the default 'owner' and commercial companies will use this to establish 'ownership'.

It is just NZTA covering their arse reminding you it's not legal ownership. And they a correct.

Can YOU find the sale agreement you got from the dealer when you bought it? Or if you bought it privately did you even get one??? I thought not :facepalm:

Of course, as long as I know your rego number, I can just go onilne and put your vehicle in my name. A week later you will get a letter in the mail to tell you.

Of course, if I know your driver licence number, you wont even get the letter, as I can change your address on the NZTA computer.

[imdying]

Of course, as long as I know your rego number, I can just go onilne and put your vehicle in my name. A week later you will get a letter in the mail to tell you.Up to 7 years in jail for doing that, just so you know.

[oneofsix]

Up to 7 years in jail for doing that, just so you know.

Bugger, I was planning to transfer my car rego into John Key's name so he could get my speed camera fines and points if they bring in the demerit points for cameras :blink:

[imdying]

Bugger, I was planning to transfer my car rego into John Key's name so he could get my speed camera fines and points if they bring in the demerit points for cameras :blink:That won't get you jail time, that's your vehicle and your business.

[davereid]

Up to 7 years in jail for doing that, just so you know.

I was just pointing out that it can be done simply and easily. Not even a visual check of the vehicle or licence is required. In fact if I knew your rego, and Freds licence number, I could put your vehicle in Freds name. Then use Freds Licence number to get credit in Freds name. After all, he owns a lot of nice cars which he can use for security.

[imdying]

I was just pointing out that it can be done simply and easily.I could cut your tonsils out and feed them to your arse, I'm still going to jail though. Doing it is one thing, living with the consequences is another :sunny:

[Smiff-ta]

If you "opt out" don't lose your ownership papers etc as dealers will not be able to confirm you are the current owner. Which may make things more time consuming when trading etc.


I did point this out WAYYYY back in August last year.

[davereid]

I could cut your tonsils out and feed them to your arse, I'm still going to jail though. Doing it is one thing, living with the consequences is another :sunny:

According to the NZTA, there have been about 1400 instances of driver licence fraud that they have picked up in the last 18 months.

So, it happens quite a bit. The consequences dont seem to bother criminals and fraudsters.

[imdying]

So, it happens quite a bit. The consequences dont seem to bother criminals and fraudsters.The consequences still apply regardless.

[Max Preload]

The registered owner is not necessarily the legal owner.Exactly. Registered owner is only who is responsible for the vehicle, not who legally owns it. You won't find a lease car registered in the name of the lease company.

[Max Preload]

^ +1 on that one. I rang up NZTA and asked this question.

Every vehicle has two owners.

1. Registered Owner
2. Actual Owner

The "registered owner" is who would get the fines and junk mailed to them. The actual owner is the person that owns the vehicle. I asked the guy how I could prove that I was the actual owner of the vehicle (the fact that I'm the registered owner can be prooved by the registration papers) and his response was that whenever you buy a vehicle, you should have a piece of paper signed by the seller stating that they sold it to you, the amount it sold for, the date and time along with full names and signatures of all parties involved.More importantly, how can you be sure the person that sold you the vehicle legally owned it, given there's no legal ownership registry?

[davereid]

More importantly, how can you be sure the person that sold you the vehicle legally owned it, given there's no legal ownership registry?

You cant be.

Although, EVEN ON OPTED OUT VEHICLES anyone can check that the person claiming to be the registered owner, actually is.

Its one of the options on "Do it online".