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Motig
1st June 2005, 20:11
Since I became bikeless a few months ago Ive been contemplating returning to my younger days with a Suzi Waterbottle. Trouble is I've no idea what sort of price they go for these days, can anybody help out to give me an idea. (of course theres always the one on Bikepoint,a bargain at $75000) :ride:

inlinefour
1st June 2005, 20:17
But this one could be a minter. Most definitely a beaut classic. Check it out on this link:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=28452032

dangerous
1st June 2005, 20:34
But this one could be a minter. Most definitely a beaut classic. Check it out on this link:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=28452032
Thats the 1st of them I think isent it? with the drum braks and black pipe ends.
I've been thinking about a GT380/550 :Punk:

Kickaha
1st June 2005, 20:57
Thats the 1st of them I think isent it? with the drum braks and black pipe ends.
I've been thinking about a GT380/550 :Punk:


Yeah a J model, I had a GT550J ex cop bike that survived a fair thrashing and being stuffed into the odd ditch

Had a 3-1 exhaust which everyones says don't work on two strokes but it sure sounded nice enough

gav
1st June 2005, 21:06
Thats the 1st of them I think isent it? with the drum braks and black pipe ends.
I've been thinking about a GT380/550 :Punk:
yeah baby!!
http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/GT/GT380-brochures/1974_GT380L_goldsales_800.jpg
I had one of these, same colour and all. First road bike, think I was about 18 or something, (also had a PE175, yeah Suzukis all the way....) Paid $995 for it, damn cool bike, actually. had the digital gear indicator, that people are saying is so wonderful on the new K5 GSXR thou.

inlinefour
1st June 2005, 22:10
Thats the 1st of them I think isent it? with the drum braks and black pipe ends.
I've been thinking about a GT380/550 :Punk:

Ask me about old Hondas and we could have a great discussion. My knowledge of others is very limited :yes:

Sensei
1st June 2005, 22:50
Ask me about old Hondas and we could have a great discussion. My knowledge of others is very limited :yes:

How about the old Motorsports XL 250 / XL 350 's excellent old beasts .

Sensei
1st June 2005, 22:52
I had one of these, same colour and all. First road bike, think I was about 18 or something, (QUOTE]

Yea had one of each very kool bikes alright :niceone:

inlinefour
2nd June 2005, 02:18
I had one of these, same colour and all. First road bike, think I was about 18 or something, (QUOTE]

Yea had one of each very kool bikes alright :niceone:

Kept going, even despite my best attempts to thrash it :niceone:

Motu
2nd June 2005, 08:24
I had a drum brake GT750 for 18 mths,but it wasn't mine,the starter never worked,but they are easy to kick anyway,it had a 3 into 1 with a 3inch drainpipe and baffle.They had one of the widest crankshafts fitted to a bike,and you could really feel the gyro of the shaft when flicking through turns.I got a soft spot for the old water buffalo,but I really hate the 380 and 550,ugliest bikes ever made,they didn't sound as nice as the 750 either.

vifferman
2nd June 2005, 08:33
I've ridden the GT380, and thought it was OK, better than sme of the other bikes of the time.

Love the advertising blurb: "special linkage on the throttles" and "heavy duty hydraulic caliper brake", which looks like a single potter? And "ram air"! Wow!! :rofl:

guzzi_nz
2nd June 2005, 09:14
but in the eighty i had gt 380 then mov up too gt 550 then gt750 then back to to gt 550 full race motor for street races rz s still couldnt catch it

sorry to say for a good one all stardard 5000---7000
ever the 550 s are gold too

the 500 twin & 550/ 3 is worth shit loads which was my fav
with father owning bike wreaker in 80s-90s i got to platy on a lot of cool 2 strokes
ever played on the kawa 500 and 750 /3 :ride:

zadok
2nd June 2005, 09:30
How did the the two stroke Suzuki range compare to the Kwaka two strokes of the same era? Better I suspect!?

MSTRS
2nd June 2005, 09:45
How did the the two stroke Suzuki range compare to the Kwaka two strokes of the same era? Better I suspect!?
oh yes indeed. Kwaks were quick but very peaky & had frames which were closely related to wet spaghetti

zadok
2nd June 2005, 09:48
oh yes indeed. Kwaks were quick but very peaky & had frames which were closely related to wet spaghetti
Yeah, I heard they could only go in a straight line.

Fryin Finn
2nd June 2005, 09:48
A friend of a friend bought a minter GT750 last year for around $7500.
Another friend had a GT550 when I had an RD350. I rode the 550 found it to be incridibly smooth (v the RD) and flexible but no ground clearance. It was very reliable too. My old GS 750 had a digital gear indicator. :weird:

rogson
2nd June 2005, 10:02
ever played on the kawa 500 and 750 /3 :ride:

I had a Kawa 500 triple a few years back - orange with the disc brake. I think it was the first disc brake model (70 or 71?). It was original (paint, pipes, etc.) except that the air box had been replaced with individual conical air filters - one on each carb. It cost me bugger-all because the headstock and triple clamp were bent. Riding it around like that was interesting - I could look down and see the front tyre rolling along the road. I got the headstock and forks straightened, replaced the triple clamp did a top end overhaul and she was as good as new. Used to go like stink when cold but dropped-off as it warmed-up and started sucking in hot air coming off the engine. Used it as regular transport for a couple of years - never let me down. Sold it (for virtually nothing) mid-nineties because I wanted a "modern bike". Regret it now - should have kept it.

MSTRS
2nd June 2005, 10:07
Yeah, I heard they could only go in a straight line.
That'd be right. Quicker than anything else then too. I think it was because they were the first of the over-square engines ie stroke shorter than the bore width?

Ixion
2nd June 2005, 10:39
How did the the two stroke Suzuki range compare to the Kwaka two strokes of the same era? Better I suspect!?

Well, I've run a Suzuki T500 for many years. Excellent bike, for it's period. I also had a Kockasucki 500 triple for about 4 months. Got rid of it before it actaully killed me. I'll swear that thing used to brood malevolently all night thinking of new viciousness to throw at me. Much much too peaky, and combine that with an elasticated frame, very nasty.

The T500 is nice, good even power spread, and although the handling isn't great it was goodish for its day.

Overall, they were just totally different bikes.

Always wanted a hot water bottle.

EDIT. I saw my old Kockasucki in a wreckers a few years later. It didn't manage to kill the guy I sold it to (he was smart enough to pass it on quick). It did kill the next guy who owned it. I'd say that was pretty much the case with most of them. Widowmakers.

vifferman
2nd June 2005, 11:05
I also had a Kockasucki 500 triple for about 4 months.
Are you allowed to say that on here? :spudwhat:

Won't all the Kockasucki riders get upset? :confused:

Eurodave
2nd June 2005, 11:26
How did the the two stroke Suzuki range compare to the Kwaka two strokes of the same era? Better I suspect!?


All were very thirsty & the kwakas ate expensive plugs too

MSTRS
2nd June 2005, 11:43
All were very thirsty & the kwakas ate expensive plugs too
Not only Kwaks - I went thru a set of the correct grade Champions in my T500 about every 3 weeks. About $4 each in 1974. Finally bit the bullet and lashed out $10 each for Bosch - same plugs in there when I sold the bike 10 months later. To put in perspective - that's about $100 each in today' s money :eek5:

Ixion
2nd June 2005, 11:51
Not only Kwaks - I went thru a set of the correct grade Champions in my T500 about every 3 weeks. About $4 each in 1974. Finally bit the bullet and lashed out $10 each for Bosch - same plugs in there when I sold the bike 10 months later. To put in perspective - that's about $100 each in today' s money :eek5:

NGKs work well

gav
2nd June 2005, 20:37
Not only Kwaks - I went thru a set of the correct grade Champions in my T500 about every 3 weeks. About $4 each in 1974. Finally bit the bullet and lashed out $10 each for Bosch - same plugs in there when I sold the bike 10 months later. To put in perspective - that's about $100 each in today' s money :eek5:
Think plugs for my ZXR400 were about $100 a set, had a Mitsi Diamante in the workshop the other day, they use a platinum plug $180 a set (6cyl) :devil2: and you have to remove an exhaust manifold to get to them. :no:

Sensei
2nd June 2005, 20:44
Had a Race NC30 which had Suface Gap Plugs $130 each for the cheap ones Didn't do to many changes with 4 plugs at that price :oi-grr:

dangerous
2nd June 2005, 20:56
ve been contemplating returning to my younger days with a Suzi Waterbottle
If ya wanting to refresh the old memory then go here (http://www.suzukicycles.org/1970-1979/1973a.shtml) its the 73 water bus click on to next years to see the later models. :ride:

Motu
2nd June 2005, 21:05
Think plugs for my ZXR400 were about $100 a set, had a Mitsi Diamante in the workshop the other day, they use a platinum plug $180 a set (6cyl) :devil2: and you have to remove an exhaust manifold to get to them. :no:
It's the inlet manifold you have to remove,it's a DIS system (double ended coil) and OE have 2 different plugs - one has a plat centre electrode,the other a plat earth,I fitted double plats to mine.Some places just change the front plugs,which can be a trap if you are looking for a miss - you check the front plugs,and yep,they are new,so no worries there eh?

Suzuki's back then were tourers,Kawasaki were the performance bike and Yamaha made race replicas - Honda were...Honda,heavy with a pressed steel frame....and handled like they had a pressed steel frame.