How pissed do you have to be to fail a breath test?

[SMOKEU]

This morning me and a mate got stopped by a cop. I was the supervisor seeing that he has a restricted licence. I was pretty drunk at the time, and I definately should not have been driving in that state (I wasn't driving at the time). However, when the cop breath tested me it came back as 'fail youth', which means I was still under the legal adult limit. So how pissed do you really have to be to fail an adult breath test?

[candor]

http://www.officeofroadsafety.wa.gov.au/documents/DrinkDrivingInformation_000.pdf -

http://www.rupissed.com/ Rule of thumb guide for a given situation

http://healthyhorns.utexas.edu/bac.html Tables US guide

http://www.attorneydwi.com/bacperdrink.html
Another table by sex / weight - Users would need to convert pounds to kilograms

SUBJECTIVE EFFECTS you'd expect at different levels are here - http://www.dassa.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=121

You can say the effects are more extreme and the risk of being responsible in a crash is DOUBLED IF CANNABIS AFFECTS ON TOP

THE TWIT ON CAMPBELL LIVE WHO WAS ALL OVER THE ROAD ON A SIMULATOR TEST AT LESS THAN 0.08 WAS A FIRST CLASS ACTRESS. HER BEHAVIOUR WAS WHAT OCCURS AT DOUBLE THE LIMIT OR SHE ONLY STARTED WITH 1/2 A BRAIN - GOOD WORK SPIN DR'S!

[davereid]

Interesting chart on the South Australian site.

As little as three standard drinks in an hour could put you at 0.09, which exceeds our current limit of .08.

And three standard drinks is only two steinlagers/stellas/heinekens.

[Toaster]

This morning me and a mate got stopped by a cop. I was the supervisor seeing that he has a restricted licence. I was pretty drunk at the time, and I definately should not have been driving in that state (I wasn't driving at the time). However, when the cop breath tested me it came back as 'fail youth', which means I was still under the legal adult limit. So how pissed do you really have to be to fail an adult breath test?

It varies for each person.

A supervisor of a learner or restricted driver has to be under the limit as they have to be "in control" of the vehicle.

Most smaller builds will fail youth on one pint.

[sil3nt]

It varies for each person.

A supervisor of a learner or restricted driver has to be under the limit as they have to be "in control" of the vehicle.

Most smaller builds will fail youth on one pint.I was watching motorway patrol once when a cop pulled over a young chick on her learners or restricted. Her boyfriend was absolutely pissed..passed out in the front seat. She was allowed to drive off.

[Juzz976]

I was watching motorway patrol once when a cop pulled over a young chick on her learners or restricted. Her boyfriend was absolutely pissed..passed out in the front seat. She was allowed to drive off.

Yeh she was lucky she wasn't a dude or she would have got a fine.

[marty]

jugs are amazing things alright

[SMOKEU]

It varies for each person.

A supervisor of a learner or restricted driver has to be under the limit as they have to be "in control" of the vehicle.

Most smaller builds will fail youth on one pint.

I'm skinny as fuck, and I was drinking at least 12 standard drinks in the 4 hours before the 'incident'. I've never seen any law which states the supervisor has to be sober. The cop even told me he couldn't do anything to me if I did blow over the limit. As for being in control of the vehicle, if the driver loses control at 100kmh there is very little I can do from the passengers seat, regardless of how sober I am.

[Patrick]

I was watching motorway patrol once when a cop pulled over a young chick on her learners or restricted. Her boyfriend was absolutely pissed..passed out in the front seat. She was allowed to drive off.

That has changed now, as of the 1st December 2009. Before then, that was all one could do. Give them a ticket and send them on the way, for exactly the same thing they were just ticketed for....:shutup::blink::crazy: Different now. Can take the keys, park it up and everyone walks, until a sober fully licensed driver turns up...


I'm skinny as fuck, and I was drinking at least 12 standard drinks in the 4 hours before the 'incident'. I've never seen any law which states the supervisor has to be sober. The cop even told me he couldn't do anything to me if I did blow over the limit. As for being in control of the vehicle, if the driver loses control at 100kmh there is very little I can do from the passengers seat, regardless of how sober I am.

The driver would / could be done for driving while unsupervised, as the supervisor shouldn't be pissed.

The supervisor is supposed to give advice and guidance, so one doesn't "lose control" at 100kmph.....

[slofox]

How pissed you feel and how pissed you measure up are very different things.

Back in the day when I indulged in this evil stuff, I have woken up in the morning feeling perfectly sober (albeit hung over as fuck) and blown well over the limit.

Conversely I have had one drink that made my head go "FONG!" and been well under the limit.

How pissed you feel is not to be trusted...

[davebullet]

If you had 12 drinks in 4 hours and you are skinny, then I am quite surprised you didn't blow past the adult limit.

It just goes to show how fucked up our drink driving laws are. [soap box on]NZ should have a zero limit / tolerance on all classes[soap box off]

[Woodman]

Years ago after footy training I had 2 stubbies then, on the way home I got stopped at a checkpoint and failed the sniffer thing, but passed the blow in the bag part. The cop asked me how much I had and he said that I should never drink more than that if I was going to drive because everyone is different.

I was definitely not skinny 6'1/110kgs. From that moment on 2 stubbies is the most I will ever have if driving.

[candor]

Gotta factor fatigue on your risk radar too - not sure what info is out there relevant to riding but I guess "powernap now" is not so easy set up.... hang on while I just grab the sleeping bag (:

[jahrasti]

The device that the popo peeps use take a reading is of mouth alcohol only.

If you have just finished having a swig , or conversly washed your mouth out with water the reading could be out. Peeps have failed after swigging mouthwash at home then been tested at the station and blew zip.

That is why they are not evidential. Those ones the air is from the lungs.

I don't know what those machines that you can buy to test yourself are like but I would be gutted if I used one that said sweet to drive, then get stopped and fail an evidential breath test.

yeah yeah I know shouldn't drink drive and all but some peeps try and be responsible and all

[SMOKEU]

I don't know what those machines that you can buy to test yourself are like but I would be gutted if I used one that said sweet to drive, then get stopped and fail an evidential breath test.





Like this one here? http://www.sobercheck.co.nz/sc3000.php?PHPSESSID=ec634f73e5cb780929d04975d8e8b cc7

Apparently they're pretty accurate if you get them re calibrated according to what the manufacturer recommends.

[Patrick]

The device that the popo peeps use take a reading is of mouth alcohol only.

If you have just finished having a swig , or conversly washed your mouth out with water the reading could be out. Peeps have failed after swigging mouthwash at home then been tested at the station and blew zip.

That is why they are not evidential. Those ones the air is from the lungs.

I don't know what those machines that you can buy to test yourself are like but I would be gutted if I used one that said sweet to drive, then get stopped and fail an evidential breath test.

yeah yeah I know shouldn't drink drive and all but some peeps try and be responsible and all

The "passive" is the one that you state your name into (mouth presence? but speaking air comes from the lungs....?)

THe next one is the screening test - blow into the mouthpiece - ie: lungs again.... which is an indication of where your level will be (fail general = over 400, fail youth over 150 - under 400 and pass is fine - under 150....)

The machine is the eveidential one, which gives an actual reading of your breath alcohol level.

As for the ones you can buy, they would not be any defence if you passed on it and got stopped just down the road and failed on the "gazetted/approved" devices.

[Toaster]

I'm skinny as fuck, and I was drinking at least 12 standard drinks in the 4 hours before the 'incident'. I've never seen any law which states the supervisor has to be sober. The cop even told me he couldn't do anything to me if I did blow over the limit. As for being in control of the vehicle, if the driver loses control at 100kmh there is very little I can do from the passengers seat, regardless of how sober I am.

Well you may need to read a bit closer. Ever heard of case law? Not all cops know what they are doing. I have seen many a cop make mistakes based on what they think is right but they are not correct in either law or policy. They are fallable too.

[Toaster]

I was watching motorway patrol once when a cop pulled over a young chick on her learners or restricted. Her boyfriend was absolutely pissed..passed out in the front seat. She was allowed to drive off.

Doesn't mean the cop was right at all now does it.

[SMOKEU]

Well you may need to read a bit closer. Ever heard of case law? Not all cops know what they are doing. I have seen many a cop make mistakes based on what they think is right but they are not correct in either law or policy. They are fallable too.

In either case, I still came back as under the adult limit.