The right to choose your own line - what do you think?

[Tunahunter]

On Sat my lady and I headed to the Rappa for lunch. On the way, just a few klicks before the hill roads gets very windy, we were getting along at about 100 - 120 when passed by a bunch of guys in their pretty leathers and fancy sports bikes - I pulled over to the left and to a man they acknowledged that with a wave......... except the wanker of a tail gunner. He was on a smaller bike and struggling to keep up - as I approached a RH bend which was going to take a bit of concentration and the choosing a good line - I saw him coming so fast I had to abandon that line and take a risky left hand line which really fucked me off. I reckon an overtaking bike should allow the front one to choose his line before passing. If I hadn't stayed well left on that bend he would have hit me. I might be wrong - tell me if you disagree

Got some numbers in his plate (67 UH...):angry:

[Banditbandit]

Yeah, it's up to the coming bike to avoid the one in front ... If it had been me passing, I would have assumed that the bke in front would take a tighter line and I would only pass if I could use the right-hand lane - i.e. cross the centre line to give the other bike room - and I'd only make the move once I saw where the bike in front was actually going ... in case the rider decided to cut the corner ..

[onearmedbandit]

I wear 'pretty leathers' and ride a 'fancy sportsbike' but I only pass riders that I am riding with on bends, if ever. If you need to pass someone on the road it's best left to the straights in my opinion.

[mashman]

The last thing you should need to be worried about is hazards behind you... unless of course you're travelling backwards :)...

[Banditbandit]

I wear 'pretty leathers' and ride a 'fancy sportsbike' but I only pass riders that I am riding with on bends, if ever. If you need to pass someone on the road it's best left to the straights in my opinion.

Naaa ... that's no fun ... flick it down and turn inside them ... especially if they are wearing pretty leathers and are on a fancy sports bike ...

[onearmedbandit]

Naaa ... that's no fun ... flick it down and turn inside them ... especially if they are wearing pretty leathers and are on a fancy sports bike ...

Never had anyone do that to me yet, plenty try, but first of all they have to be able to keep the speed up in the corner.

[PrincessBandit]

I wear 'pretty leathers' and ride a 'fancy sportsbike' but I only pass riders that I am riding with on bends, if ever. If you need to pass someone on the road it's best left to the straights in my opinion.

Anyone who feels the urge to pass someone on a bend and can't restrain themselves probably needs an ego-dectomy. I agree, straights are the best place with least likelihood of bad visibility and ease of hazard identification (even if it is 'the other' bike!).
Bends, especially tight ones, can cause all sorts of unwanted excitement even when you think you've got you line all set but to have some :tugger: force you to alter midstream (so to speak) is fricken insane.

Good on you for getting his (my apologies to the blokes if it turns out that it was a woman) plate - hope you don't meet them anytime soon again on the road.

[kiwifruit]

120

Slow down

[Banditbandit]

Never had anyone do that to me yet, plenty try, but first of all they have to be able to keep the speed up in the corner.

Yeah .. there's some sports bike riders I wouldn't even try it on ... but some in pretty leathers and fancy bikes might as well be on cruisers ...

[SVboy]

Well done to you for recognising and dealing with a potential hazard. Definitely the responsibility of the overtaking rider to do it safely and not affect your line. PS Come over to the coloured side and try on some leathers-you may like it more than you think:yes:

[duckonin]

Yeah .. there's some sports bike riders I wouldn't even try it on ... but some in pretty leathers and fancy bikes might as well be on cruisers ...

What have cruisers got to do with this thread ? and why should you put them on cruisers ?:innocent:

[BoristheBiter]

Slow down

No Speed up

[imdying]

Yeah .. there's some sports bike riders I wouldn't even try it on ... but some in pretty leathers and fancy bikes might as well be on cruisers ...Cocks like you shouldn't be trying to pass people on corners regardless. Sell that piece of shit and get something suitable for the track if you must ride like that.

[Banditbandit]

Cocks like you shouldn't be trying to pass people on corners regardless. Sell that piece of shit and get something suitable for the track if you must ride like that.

And you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine too.

[onearmedbandit]

And you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine too.

Invercargill?

[Banditbandit]

Invercargill?

I've bin there ... :sick: It was sunny ..

[onearmedbandit]

I've bin there ... :sick: It was sunny ..

They don't know it by the name 'sun' down there. It's called 'The God of Fire'.

[Gone Burger]

I headed over to the Rapa on Saturday around that time (it was lovely and drizzly huh?), and did pass a couple of bikes along the way - but only on straights. And I am on a curiser, so pleased that it wasn't me! Wouldn't attempt that anyway, as I would be expecting the rider in front to be focussing on their lines into a corner, as I would be. Cheeky monkey :blink:

[imdying]

And you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine too.Oooooh.... Or what? :laugh:

[tamarillo]

Back on topic - yes you have right to choose line and stick to it and any dick that passes on corner needs to grow up. But well done for seeinh hazard and helping him -problem is he/she may now expect it.

[Okey Dokey]

McJim should be here to defend Invercargill, the Riviera of Antarctica.

[Banditbandit]

Oooooh.... Or what? :laugh:

yeah right ... :Punk:

If you'd actually read my first post instead of jumping in late ...

[cowboyz]

on ya for getting out the way and being aware of your surroundings.

I always say.. even if your in the right.. it still hurts!

[avgas]

World is full of wankers.
Get over yourself. Do you need a hug?

[slofox]

I wear ugly black leathers that are covered in bug spooge and ride a sprotsbike. So I guess I am OK huh?

[Trudes]

There's a bunch of road warriors out there who should really just take their shit riding... oops I mean Sunday cruising, to the track. Maybe they're afraid you'll beat them to the cafe and drink all the latte before they get their squid suits off.

[Squiggles]

On the straights, on the right side of the road is the only way you should overtake...

[onearmedbandit]

On the straights, on the right side of the road is the only way you should overtake...

On the back wheel...?

[Crasherfromwayback]

and any dick that passes on corner needs to grow up.

Bullshit. Often...a clean, on the inside pass is the safest and best way to go by somebody...yes...even on the street. If you can see through the corner, and the rider in front has comitted to their line...there's nothing wrong with it at all. It's no different to passing them on a straight. What if they're on said straight...and as you go to pass them suddenly veer to the right to avoid something on the road? A collision. More often than not...a rider has scanned the road surface ahead through the corner and would've made their line choice accordingly.

IF they see something on their line in the corner...they'll pick it up 9 times out of ten and go round it...not pull it tighter and crash into you.

[BoristheBiter]

Cocks like you shouldn't be trying to pass people on corners regardless. Sell that piece of shit and get something suitable for the track if you must ride like that.

Thats right. its not like anyone's in a race:innocent: and whats 1 sec till you get around the corner.

[BoristheBiter]

Bullshit. Often...a clean, on the inside pass is the safest and best way to go by somebody...yes...even on the street. If you can see through the corner, and the rider in front has comitted to their line...there's nothing wrong with it at all. It's no different to passing them on a straight. What if they're on said straight...and as you go to pass them suddenly veer to the right to avoid something on the road? A collision. More often than not...a rider has scanned the road surface ahead through the corner and would've made their line choice accordingly.

IF they see something on their line in the corner...they'll pick it up 9 times out of ten and go round it...not pull it tighter and crash into you.

All fine and dandy but how do you know what line they will take?

[pc220]

Bloody sports bikes.:oi-grr:

[Crasherfromwayback]

All fine and dandy but how do you know what line they will take?

Easy. Unless they're all over the bloody place...most people will (well they fucking well should) take a line and pretty much stay on it. It's also (as I said) very rare for people to tighten their line on corners. Most (if they do change it) will go wide.

[BoristheBiter]

Bloody sports bikes.:oi-grr:

Only if they hit something.
otherwise they are mostly clean.

[cowboyz]

the point is.... if they are going round the corner at say 90k/hr. You want to go round at 120k/hr. they are thinking about something what a nice day they are having and feeling like superman cruising on a fine sunday afternoon and how they have ridden 500km on their new bike and you come flashing past them mid corner ..unexpected. and scare the shit out of them and they run wide off the road. Not your problem? you didnt crash... they should have been paying attention to whats behind them? Obviously if they are riding that slowly they have plenty of time in their day so it wouldnt really inconvience them to walk home? What other reasons can you come up with for riding like a cock?

[Crasherfromwayback]

What other reasons can you come up with for riding like a cock?

The guy that fucked up Tunahunters corner/ride experience sounds indeed like he/she was riding like a cock. My only argument is that it is perfectly safe to pass someone in a corner. You can startle someone going by them in a straight line too remember. Sheesh...some passing lanes even have corners in them!!! Best we not dare pass anyone there!

[PrincessBandit]

Bullshit. Often...a clean, on the inside pass is the safest and best way to go by somebody...yes...even on the street.

Good for you but I'd be pretty pissed if I got passed on the inside regardless of whether the other person thought it was ok/fine/safe/I was too slow for them. I'd only let ya off if you were in your own lane.....:kiss:

[Katman]

Bullshit. Often...a clean, on the inside pass is the safest and best way to go by somebody


I assume you're only talking about right-hand bends (and even then - only if you use the other lane).

Passing on the inside on a left-hander is just fucked up. If the rider being passed is spooked they will head straight over into the on-coming lane.

[beyond]

The golden rule when around other bikes or when other bikes are around, wether you know them or not is: the rider in front owns the road and once commited to your line, stick to it unless you absolutely have to avoid something.

Overtaking on corners? Why not. Sometimes it's the only way to pass the cocks who do 300kmh on the straights and go like slugs in the corners. Furthermore I think the law says something about 100 metres of visibility and there's plenty of corners where you can see 100 metres throughout the overtaking manouevre.

Shit, I overtake cars in corners when I'm in my car without breaking the law and it's a darn sight easier to do on a motorbike when done "correctly"

I think Crasher was not talking about overtaking on the inside of the rider but more like on the inside of a corner, right hander if I'm not mistaken which is entirely appropriate under most circumstances.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Good for you but I'd be pretty pissed if I got passed on the inside regardless of whether the other person thought it was ok/fine/safe/I was too slow for them. I'd only let ya off if you were in your own lane.....:kiss:

No...I'd be in the other lane!


I assume you're only talking about right-hand bends (and even then - only if you use the other lane).

Passing on the inside on a left-hander is just fucked up. If the rider being passed is spooked they will head straight over into the on-coming lane.

Correct! But if you read the very first post...you'd have seen it was a right hand corner he was talking about.

[gazmascelle]

I saw him coming so fast I had to abandon that line and take a risky left hand line which really fucked me off.

You should stab 'em

[Katman]

You should stab 'em

Crazy Steve would.

[onearmedbandit]

I think it should be clarified whether those that say it's ok are talking about passing in the other lane, as opposed to passing within the same lane. Which is what I gathered happened in the first post.

[Banditbandit]

I assume you're only talking about right-hand bends (and even then - only if you use the other lane).

Passing on the inside on a left-hander is just fucked up. If the rider being passed is spooked they will head straight over into the on-coming lane.

In left-handers ya go round the outside - pretty dumb to go inside ... I thought even you would see that.

Plenty of left hand corners with enough visiblity to go round the outside safely ..

[Katman]

In left-handers ya go round the outside - pretty dumb to go inside ... I thought even you would see that.



I thought I did see it. :scratch:

[Banditbandit]

I thought I did see it. :scratch:

So why did you need to ask the question ? Just to jump in with another dickhead attempt to get some kinda wimpy "safe riding" message across ?

[BoristheBiter]

So why did you need to ask the question ? Just to jump in with another dickhead attempt to get some kinda wimpy "safe riding" message across ?

So are you saying that to ride safely is to ride wimpy?

[george formby]

The golden rule when around other bikes or when other bikes are around, wether you know them or not is: the rider in front owns the road and once commited to your line, stick to it unless you absolutely have to avoid something.

Overtaking on corners? Why not. Sometimes it's the only way to pass the cocks who do 300kmh on the straights and go like slugs in the corners. Furthermore I think the law says something about 100 metres of visibility and there's plenty of corners where you can see 100 metres throughout the overtaking manouevre.

Shit, I overtake cars in corners when I'm in my car without breaking the law and it's a darn sight easier to do on a motorbike when done "correctly"

I think Crasher was not talking about overtaking on the inside of the rider but more like on the inside of a corner, right hander if I'm not mistaken which is entirely appropriate under most circumstances.

+1
If I have 100m of clear road before & after the overtake thats tickety boo. As long as I indicate, use the oncoming lane & do nothing too cause the bike/car to change their own line I will overtake on a straight or in a corner.
Good on ya for spotting a hazard in the rear & being proactive about it. I've been put in the same spot by faster riders & demonstrated my lack of faith by pulling right out of their way.
I'm also guilty of startling other road users when overtaking through corners but I put that down to people not using their mirrors & not reading the road ahead & seeing the opportunity.
I do think hard about the vehicle ahead stuffing up the corner & crossing the line:shit:

[Banditbandit]

So are you saying that to ride safely is to ride wimpy?

No, not at all. I'm just having a dig at Katman ...

[cowboyz]

The guy that fucked up Tunahunters corner/ride experience sounds indeed like he/she was riding like a cock. My only argument is that it is perfectly safe to pass someone in a corner. You can startle someone going by them in a straight line too remember. Sheesh...some passing lanes even have corners in them!!! Best we not dare pass anyone there!

theres always an exception to the rule.

I pretty much only ride with people I ride with because I know how they ride. Approaching a stranger on the road and you have no idea what they ride like not only their confidence and experience but their 'can I be fucked' mood. I remember a trip where we had 2 ro3 sports bikes and about 4 tourers out and about on a long journey and come across a couple of late model gixxers and we had a world of trouble getting around them, not because they were goign fast but because they were so unpredictable. But we had plenty way to go and we passed where we could and it was no big drama. A little consideration goes a long way... but the whole point is... its not a racetrack so everyone is not in the same frame of mind. and whats 'Im giving you miles of room' for one might be 'holy crap that was close!' for another.

[scumdog]

Meh, who cares?:blink:

[Corse1]

+1
I'm also guilty of startling other road users when overtaking through corners but I put that down to people not using their mirrors & not reading the road ahead & seeing the opportunity.
I do think hard about the vehicle ahead stuffing up the corner & crossing the line:shit:

Ever wonder why race bikes don't have mirrors !! It is not their responsibility what happens behind them. Thats why you tape your mirrors or remove them for track duties. If you want to pass like a loon take it to the track. Its the approacing riders responsibility to pick the line to pass safely.
Even then on the track you would be shortshifted off for irresponsible passing.

I would still pass in corners on the road but only riders that I am confident they are not going to do anything silly midcorner like run me off the road so only riders I regularly ride with.

[Katman]

No, not at all. I'm just having a dig at Katman ...

You'll have to try harder than that.

[avgas]

Meh, who cares?:blink:
Exactly.
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[Banditbandit]

You'll have to try harder than that.

Naa .. I'm not that bothered

[beyond]

You'll have to try harder than that.

Shit, I don't have to try at all. I only need to post.

[Subike]

Overtaking in corners? yeah I do it, there are plenty of places where it is a safe move, just as there as plenty of places where it is not safe.
So for all you "I only overtake under xyz conditions " I suspect that when going up and down those really nice snake like hills roads that sometimes appear everywhere in NZ, you all overtake!
Can you garrentee that you will sit behind the BSA bantam doing 26.7MPH up that nice twisty hill, because it is NOT SAFE to overtake in a corner.
I use the BSA as an example......plenty of that type of slow riders out there on such and such a bike, those who dont know what riding at pace means.
Plus those that are still learning and go slow till they build up their confidence.
So you can sit behind that rider at his dawdle, Because its "not safe to overtake in a corner"
I'll just sit at my comfey pace, and enjoy my ride, corners and all.
Not letting myself become frustrated by the BSA rider, then end up in a road rage mode because of BSA rider, ( who I cant overtake because he is in a corner and its not safe), throw all my toys out of the toy box then pin the throttle at the first "safe" straight road!

Pitty I missed the car doing the same coming the other way who has just pulled out from behind the Morris 8

[sinned]

Passing on the inside on a left-hander is just fucked up. If the rider being passed is spooked they will head straight over into the on-coming lane.


In left-handers ya go round the outside - pretty dumb to go inside ... I thought even you would see that.
..
Rimutakas is the place to experience passing on the left on a left hander. Has happened to me and I have seen others past this way. I think Koroj has also experienced this. It has sort of put me off KB rides.

[toycollector10]

I've never seen so much crap on this forum.

If someone is trying to go around me on the outside and I don't see him and mess up my line I'll correct it and maybe push him out into oncoming traffic. If I alter my line the other way I'll collect the prick on the inside. Either way, a bike/bike collision is a possibility.

All this justifying over/undertaking on corners is complete BS. I hope I never meet any of you tryhards on the road. Ooops, I already have.

As someone said, how much time are you going to make up? One tenth of a second at best to your destination? Or maybe you're all in The Zone and etc etc etc.....

[beyond]

I've never seen so much crap on this forum.

If someone is trying to go around me on the outside and I don't see him and mess up my line I'll correct it and maybe push him out into oncoming traffic. If I alter my line the other way I'll collect the prick on the inside. Either way, a bike/bike collision is a possibility.

All this justifying over/undertaking on corners is complete BS. I hope I never meet any of you tryhards on the road. Ooops, I already have.

As someone said, how much time are you going to make up? One tenth of a second at best to your destination? Or maybe you're all in The Zone and etc etc etc.....

Bullshit to you because you fail to read the posts the way they are intended and then get on here and spout some more bullshit.
Read what people are saying and you might realise we are talking about overtaking safely on corners in the other lane when safe to do so.

If you are going to get online and get all up yourself because you fail to get the intent of what others are talking about, don't even bother posting. Read the bloody posts first before making a prize dick of yourself.

[Ocean1]

As far as I'm concerned it's no different to overtaking anywhere else, exactly the same rules apply.

So I'd like to apologise in advance to anyone of a different opinion that I may overtake on a corner. In spite of spending some time assessing you’re riding style, competence and predictability I obviously failed to understand that your confidence is so fragile you shouldn’t be on a public road where you’re exposed to *gasp* TRAFFIC. Cue jaws soundtrack.

[Katman]

If you are going to get online and get all up yourself because you fail to get the intent of what others are talking about, don't even bother posting. Read the bloody posts first before making a prize dick of yourself.

You're hardly fit to talk about considerate overtaking.

Your videos show your complete lack of regard for anyone else that shares the road with you.

[beyond]

You're hardly fit to talk about considerate overtaking.

Your videos show your complete lack of regard for anyone else that shares the road with you.

More bullshit. Every person I have overtaken is considered carefully, an assessment made and the overtaking manouevre accomplished with the minimum of fuss and bother and normally a wave to top it off for good measure. If I wasn't riding my bike I would stop and make them a cup of tea just to show there is no hard feelings. You can't do much better than that.

[Katman]

More bullshit. Every person I have overtaken is considered carefully, an assessment made and the overtaking manouevre accomplished with the minimum of fuss and bother and normally a wave to top it off for good measure. If I wasn't riding my bike I would stop and make them a cup of tea just to show there is no hard feelings. You can't do much better than that.

Really?

Post up your videos (the ones you've removed from youtube) and let us all decide.

[beyond]

My videos are still there. BUT, you can't see me waving cos I'm behind the camera.

[Katman]

This one will do.

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/6940746" width="400" height="291" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/6940746">GSX1400 Beyond rides from Hunua to Kaiua</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user2118697">Paul Beyond</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

[beyond]

This one will do.

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/6940746" width="400" height="291" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/6940746">GSX1400 Beyond rides from Hunua to Kaiua</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user2118697">Paul Beyond</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

Ya can't help but torture yourself can you? If you recall, riders overtaken in this vid have already told you they never felt unease at my overtakiing. The rest were aware of my presence but of course you wouldn't see their glance in their rear view mirrors from the vid.

BUT... enjoy. The backing tracks are cool :)

[Banditbandit]

This one will do.



BEYOND - Awesome run man ! I don't know that road, but watching that video was like looking over the front of my Bandit. That's pretty much how I would have done it, and so would a lot of my riding mates.

Nothing wrong with that at all ... except if you'd encountered a policeman ...

[BoristheBiter]

Ya can't help but torture yourself can you? If you recall, riders overtaken in this vid have already told you they never felt unease at my overtakiing. The rest were aware of my presence but of course you wouldn't see their glance in their rear view mirrors from the vid.

BUT... enjoy. The backing tracks are cool :)

Couldn't say i saw too much wrong with that (like i would know), looks much different when you're on a bike to watching on a camera.
Only thing i could think of is on some of those corners after KK bay is if you meet a car coming the other way like that white Swagon at the begining, but then being on your side of the road wouldn't help much either.

on a side note what editing sofware do you use as i have just got one of the new hd170 cameras. also was that on your head or on the bike? (the cam that is).

[Crasherfromwayback]

I've never seen so much crap on this forum.

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I thought that too. Untill I read your post. NOW I've seen it all. What a fucking dork. Stick to knitting.

[Katman]

Couldn't say i saw too much wrong with that


It's been discussed at length here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/79630-New-vid-from-Beyond-GSX1400.

[BoristheBiter]

It's been discussed at length here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/79630-New-vid-from-Beyond-GSX1400.

Well as i haven't ridden with him, or don't think i have, i can't comment. all i was saying was it diddn't look all that bad in that vid. sure there were things he did that i wouldn't but that all comes down to each rider.

some people ride slow and some ride fast, some over take in corners and some don't.
it comes down to each person's perception at that given time.

all that other thread show's is who doesn't like who on this site.

[buellbabe]

bla bla bla ...back to the original post...

If the rider had held his line then all good cos the bike coming from behind should give way however in this case it sounds like the rider in front read the situation as "f**king hell there is a maniac coming through, think I will let him get past". Probably a good call to make.

As for passing on bends...my opinion is that if it can be done safely (for ALL concerned) then no harm done but as for overtaking on the inside???? hell no! No way, the road is not a bloody racetrack, that is just wrong wrong wrong.

I have passed other bikes on bends (on the outside, not cramping anyone!) but I only do it if I know its gonna be my last passing opportunity for a long time and I really wanna have an unhibited play on the upcoming road. That said, I tend to sit behind the other bike for a spell cos I want them to be aware that I'm there and my indicator flashing lets them know what I'm planning to do. It ain't rocket science eh?

[duckonin]

As far as I'm concerned it's no different to overtaking anywhere else, exactly the same rules apply.

So I'd like to apologise in advance to anyone of a different opinion that I may overtake on a corner. In spite of spending some time assessing you’re riding style, competence and predictability I obviously failed to understand that your confidence is so fragile you shouldn’t be on a public road where you’re exposed to *gasp* TRAFFIC. Cue jaws soundtrack.

Fuck your a clever buggar to be able to assess a persons 'COMPETENCE & PREDICTABILITY' in a matter of seconds...you may be in the wrong vocation..:yes:

[Banditbandit]

It's been discussed at length here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/79630-New-vid-from-Beyond-GSX1400.

Yeah ... I read that thread through ... and in that thread everyone enjoyed the video .. except you jumped in with your bullshit comnments and everyone jumped on you .. just like in this thread

[Banditbandit]

Fuck your a clever buggar to be able to assess a persons 'COMPETENCE & PREDICTABILITY' in a matter of seconds...you may be in the wrong vocation..:yes:

It's not that hard to judge the competency of riders as you come up to them ... and if there's any doubt I tend to sit back and watch before I decide where and when I'm going to pass ...

If it's on a straight I'll just leave it open and go passed ... "Here I co/go .. ready or not ..." in corners I will watch until I can judge their lines ... and how tight I have to go inside them ... and yes, sometimes that can be a matter of seconds.

For instance a sports or sports tourer will always turn inside a Harley ... so the only thing to watch for is them cutting the corner (seen the dopey buggas do that too ..) ... A learner will tend to take wider and slower lines - scrap the right footpeg on the white line on the right-hand side of the road and you'll always be well off their line ... and just to be clear for Katman ONLY if there is nothing coming the other way ..

[beyond]

Couldn't say i saw too much wrong with that (like i would know), looks much different when you're on a bike to watching on a camera.
Only thing i could think of is on some of those corners after KK bay is if you meet a car coming the other way like that white Swagon at the begining, but then being on your side of the road wouldn't help much either.

on a side note what editing sofware do you use as i have just got one of the new hd170 cameras. also was that on your head or on the bike? (the cam that is).

Hiya mate... Cyberlink Power Director. It's good software and therer is a version for HD.
Camera was on the bike, fixed to a bracket, hence the bouncing. A later camera with image stabilisation would help. Watch hard drive models as the vibration can knock them around a bit and cause them to switch off.

Cheers

[neels]

Holy crap, so much pissing and moaning and mounting of high horses in one thread :gob:

Some people need to get back to basics and read the road code. All it says is 100m of clear road before you overtake, no mention of the road being straight, or not a bridge as a friend of mine was told by his passenger recently (where the fuck did they get that one from).

There are plenty of places where there is perfect visibility around bends,these are the perfect place to pass as the majority of drivers and riders won't pass on anything but a straight road so you don't have to fight with anybody else overtaking, as long as you stay clear of their lane they have no reason to give you the finger as they quite often do. I just keep close to the horn button for the dickheads pootling along at 85k that drift into the other lane as you pass because they're oblivious of the traffic behind, and for that matter everybody else on the road.

[Ocean1]

Fuck your a clever buggar to be able to assess a persons 'COMPETENCE & PREDICTABILITY' in a matter of seconds...you may be in the wrong vocation..:yes:

What can I say, it's a gift.

Detecting incompetence since fookin' yonks.


or not a bridge as a friend of mine was told by his passenger recently (where the fuck did they get that one from).

Me dear old uncle Dave agrees with the passenger.

[Old Steve]

I've only got a couple of questions:

What is this "passing" thing? Is it something I'll ever experience?

Old Steve, - newly qualified 6R rider of a Hyosung GV250

[Smifffy]

Anyone else wondering if its that cock from Wellington with the green Kwaka?

Y'all have permission to pass me wherever you please, since I'm such a nanna, just move over into the other lane. If I'm not feeling particularly magnanimous on a given day, and I feel you're too close, I may just do something unpredictably dangerous :mellow:

[scumdog]

and just to be clear for Katman ONLY if there is nothing coming the other way ..

That would be good - 'cos head-on crashes only happen when there is a car/bike/whatever coming the other way.

Of course first you have to have seen the car/bike/whatever coming the other way.


I bet that the head-ons are invariably caused by somebody screwing up by NOT seeing a car/bike/whatever coming the other way..I also bet none of them thought "ah, what the hell, I can see I'll have a head-on if I pass now - but hey, I'll give it a go anyway.."

[Banditbandit]

That would be good - 'cos head-on crashes only happen when there is a car/bike/whatever coming the other way.

Of course first you have to have seen the car/bike/whatever coming the other way.


I bet that the head-ons are invariably caused by somebody screwing up by NOT seeing a car/bike/whatever coming the other way..I also bet none of them thought "ah, what the hell, I can see I'll have a head-on if I pass now - but hey, I'll give it a go anyway.."

You're getting to be as bad as he is .. Oh ... yeah ... right ... you drive one of those white cars with blue and yellow stripes ? And the flashing lights on the roof ?

Atually I don't evny your job when you're picking up dumb-arse bikers off the road in little bits and pieces ...