Pilot Pures

[Smiff-ta]

Is anyone using these?

Heard some good things.

[MsKABC]

GSXR Trace is now running them on her pint and she loves them... Haven't tried them myself.

[Marmoot]

Good feedback, grippy on the dry roads, and bike is more flickable (feels much lighter).
Need to get the correct pressure, as it is very sensitive to improper pressure. It feels very wallowy and not-confidence-inspiring even with just 2-3 psi off. But it could also be due to my bike having hard-setup suspensions.
Data from daily auckland commuting as well as high speed backroad riding.

So-so on wet roads. Can't complain, but can't praise much.

Hate the price. But I always hate any price.

Feels so much better than Pirelli Diablo Rosso. But I have always hated that tyre set ever since I got them on (i.e., within 48 hours of having them on).

Haven't tried on the track. Waiting for spring/summer to come.

[SVboy]

I watch with interest. Heard some so-so feedback-not as good as PP2cts? Does the lighter carcase offer potential issues with rapid heat up/cool downs? I was keen to try these on my GSXR but will wait till others report back.

[NZsarge]

Good feedback, grippy on the dry roads, and bike is more flickable (feels much lighter).
Need to get the correct pressure, as it is very sensitive to improper pressure. It feels very wallowy and not-confidence-inspiring even with just 2-3 psi off. But it could also be due to my bike having hard-setup suspensions.
Yes I found out recently through a UK bike mag that when they went to the launch of the tyre the Michelin engineers warned them not to lower the tyre pressure for the track portion of the tyre test, this is due to the "lite tyre" technology which was explained by the engineers as removing all un-nessecary rubber from the tyre. This intern means that it used the pressure in the tyre to keep the carcass true to the road there for if the pressure is too low the tyre would deform much more easily than say a Pilot Power would. In the magazine artical they were told to run 36 front and 42 in the rear tyre. When I bought my Pures I was un aware of this need for firmer pressures and was running my usual 33-34F and 36-38R and once I gave it a bit of a serve I found the bike was all over the place and wondered what the hell was going on... Now armed with this info i'm running 36-37F and 42R and they are now riding like I expected them to.

I watch with interest. Heard some so-so feedback-not as good as PP2cts? Does the lighter carcase offer potential issues with rapid heat up/cool downs? I was keen to try these on my GSXR but will wait till others report back.
I at this point don't rate them hugely above Pilot Powers but they are a bit better for sure, what i'm interested it is how they will wear (ie: will they flatten off in the centre much) and what milage will they get, haven't had them on for that long yet so this'll dictate whether I stick with them or not. Coz of the low speed straight line work I do the Powers would flat spot quite easily and prematurely wear out the rear tyre. The proportioning of the rubber compounds in the Pure is very similar the Pilot Road 2's and the resist flat spotting very very well and I was hoping for a similar effect with the Pure's.

[ckai]

I'm running them on the Daytona which I swapped the stockers straight out. I had 2ct's on the old Daytona.

I can't comment on price since it was a straight swap for the Pirelli's so I can't really say if they're value for money.

Totally agree that they're super-sensitive to PSI. The bike was riding like shit when I first got it and thought it was me. Checked the pressure and they were around 3 psi higher than I normally ride (34-36). Sorted it and they rode 10x better.

They feel like wood before they're heated up too. Once they're heated though they're better than the 2cts. Sharper turn-in and better mid-corner grip.

Watch the slippery patches on wet roads though. I thought I'd test there grip on a straight piece of road when pulling out of an intersection. So I gave it a little stick and noticed they came unstuck when changing gears. Didn't happen with the 2cts. In saying that it was totally predictable and the bike never wondered off line. It also didn't seem to be slipping when I was on the gas.

I'm in 2 minds if I would get them again. I know the 2cts have pretty impressive mileage so it'll be interesting to see how long these last. I suppose if I knew the price difference that'll probably sway me as well.

As for the track...i'll be able to comment in October:scooter:

[ckai]

Yes I found out recently through a UK bike mag that when they went to the launch of the tyre the Michelin engineers warned them not to lower the tyre pressure for the track portion of the tyre test, this is due to the "lite tyre" technology which was explained by the engineers as removing all un-nessecary rubber from the tyre. This intern means that it used the pressure in the tyre to keep the carcass true to the road there for if the pressure is too low the tyre would deform much more easily than say a Pilot Power would. In the magazine artical they were told to run 36 front and 42 in the rear tyre. When I bought my Pures I was un aware of this need for firmer pressures and was running my usual 33-34F and 36-38R and once I gave it a bit of a serve I found the bike was all over the place and wondered what the hell was going on... Now armed with this info i'm running 36-37F and 42R and they are now riding like I expected them to.

This is interesting. 42 is bloody high. It's higher than what I was riding when they were first put on. I might have to try those pressures and see what the difference is like.

[NZsarge]

This is interesting. 42 is bloody high. It's higher than what I was riding when they were first put on. I might have to try those pressures and see what the difference is like.
Yeah i've always been of the opinion that 42 psi was bloody high but the tyre imeadiately smoothed out with the way it was wearing so..

[Marmoot]

Yes I found out recently through a UK bike mag that when they went to the launch of the tyre the Michelin engineers warned them not to lower the tyre pressure for the track portion of the tyre test, this is due to the "lite tyre" technology which was explained by the engineers as removing all un-nessecary rubber from the tyre. This intern means that it used the pressure in the tyre to keep the carcass true to the road there for if the pressure is too low the tyre would deform much more easily than say a Pilot Power would. In the magazine artical they were told to run 36 front and 42 in the rear tyre. When I bought my Pures I was un aware of this need for firmer pressures and was running my usual 33-34F and 36-38R and once I gave it a bit of a serve I found the bike was all over the place and wondered what the hell was going on... Now armed with this info i'm running 36-37F and 42R and they are now riding like I expected them to.


Thanks for confirming this :)
Perfect for me. I like running 36/42 on track because of how my bike is set up (personal preference plus bad italian stock springs). With the hard suspension, soft tyres would deform too much as it would take all the stress before the suspensions taking it.

[Dazza]

Very interesting coments about tyre pressures. I run 36 front & 38 rear with no problems. Wet road the other day and was pushing it a wee bit & they where fine, had a little warning that we were getting close to slide territory which was nice :yes: They certianly seem to be holding up heaps better that the Corsa III's previously fitted and have nearly covered 3000k's and the front looks hardly worn. Mate reckons I'd notice the difference in unsprung weight which I thought he was full of it but I have to admit that he's right. So far they've been great,and appear not too bad in the wet.:sunny:
Doing Burt ride this year so may fit the new M5's though.

[onearmedbandit]

Feels so much better than Pirelli Diablo Rosso. But I have always hated that tyre set ever since I got them on (i.e., within 48 hours of having them on).



Can you tell me what it was that you didn't like about them? I've got a pair on the thou currently and I'm not really enjoying the ownership. They seem to be quite a nervous tyre, compared to the Dunlop's I was running, the bike fidgeting around momentarily as I set up for a corner. The grip is there, no denying that, but they just feel less stable than others I've had on. And this goes against what I've read about them, where reviewers seem to praise their stability.

[NZsarge]

Very interesting coments about tyre pressures. I run 36 front & 38 rear with no problems. Wet road the other day and was pushing it a wee bit & they where fine, had a little warning that we were getting close to slide territory which was nice :yes: They certianly seem to be holding up heaps better that the Corsa III's previously fitted and have nearly covered 3000k's and the front looks hardly worn. Mate reckons I'd notice the difference in unsprung weight which I thought he was full of it but I have to admit that he's right. So far they've been great,and appear not too bad in the wet.:sunny:
Doing Burt ride this year so may fit the new M5's though.

You are (according to the article I read anyway) running the correct pressure in the front at least where I guess that'll make the biggest difference.
Would be interested in hearing what you think about the Interact M5's if you end up running them.

[Marmoot]

Can you tell me what it was that you didn't like about them? I've got a pair on the thou currently and I'm not really enjoying the ownership. They seem to be quite a nervous tyre, compared to the Dunlop's I was running, the bike fidgeting around momentarily as I set up for a corner. The grip is there, no denying that, but they just feel less stable than others I've had on. And this goes against what I've read about them, where reviewers seem to praise their stability.

Rosso don't inspire confidence at all. They are good when they grip, but the grip can fade off very suddenly without any warning at all. To make it worse, they are inconsistent, where it is impossible for me to know this envelope. Road and track included, dry and wet. This also makes it impossible to find consistent line and/or develop consistent performance. Also tried going -4psi, -2psi, +2psi, and +4 psi from the proper pressure but those don't help at all.
I would give them a score of 7.5/10 for the road, and 5/10 for the track.

Compared to other tyres I've been on, Rosso, Bridgestone's BT010, and Dunlop D207 (around year 2000-2002) are the worsts, while BT56, BT015, and Michelin PP are not bad at all. Best so far was Pirelli Dragon Supercorsa Pro, but I've been trying to get a ready-stock pair (i.e., when changing tyres) of these for the last 1.5 years without any luck.
Still undecided with Power Pure, but so far it looks promising. Need to test it on the track. I understand this is more of a 50:50 road:track tyre, not hardcore track like Supercorsa Pros.

And FYI swapping from Supercorsa Pro to Rosso dropped me from 1:08 to 1:16 at Puke. Best performance on Rosso was 1:12, right before the tyre was worn out. Performance seems to improve a little bit right before the meat is out, but it was too little and takes far too long.

P.S.
For reference purpose, on the track I tend to carry higher cornering speed, lean angle and more aggressive exit. That may have affected the behavior.
Also, it was on a v-twin with 180 rear, not 190.
Need to know how these compare with the reviews you read. I read a few good reviews on them only to find out they were using it mostly on the american straights :rolleyes: .

[MaxCannon]

Just got a set on the BMW.
Previously I had a Metlzer M3 on the back and Conti Sport attack on the front.
Was always happy with the rear grip (well up to the tyre was bald anyway).
Found the conti on the front rather nervous, very sharp turn in but never too sure how much grip I had.

Fitted tuesday morning, first ride was commute home in torrential rain.
Verdict. Slippery when new (and wet). No major dramas but definite new tyre feel.
Trip to work and back is 30km all up. So Wednesday - Friday put a few more miles on them in mostly wet conditions.
After the first 60km or thereabouts they seemed pretty well scrubbed in.

Not used to seeing sunshine at the weekend lately so despite the wind I got out on both Saturday and Sunday.
Pressure check on Saturday showed 34F and 38R. Back end had felt a bit soft so I pumped them to up to what I ran before 36F and 42R.

Ride. Found it very firm. Dropped the pressures to 34F and 40R. Felt much better.
What I've read about these pressure sensitive seems to be true.

Turn in, not as sharp as before but I kind of like that. Changes direction well and bike feels very good through the turn.

Grip. Seems to be lots, getting on the gas hard out of second and third gear corners there was no drama. Just hooks up and goes.

Overall. I'm pretty impressed. Bike certainly feels flickable and stable. Will be keen to see how they fare on the track.
Can't comment on wear as they've only got 200km on them so far.

[onearmedbandit]

Just picked myself up a new pair of the pures today. Yet to put them back on the bike so I can't comment on them yet, other than the price. $468 fitted to the bike. :gob:

[DEATH_INC.]

Personally I'm not hooked on 'em, and won't buy them again. Seems to be plenty of grip (both on the road and track), but they feel ....... well ..... like there's no feel. Kinda hard to explain really.
But then I'm not a Michelin person. Didn't really like the powers that came on the bike either.

[onearmedbandit]

Yeah I'm interested to see how they perform, as I've always enjoyed Michelins.

[Marmoot]

Forgot about this thread.

Tried the Pures on HD track last month, and I'm in between of being impressed as well as being 'meh'.

It is so much better than the Pirelli Rosso in terms of grip, warmup time, and feel. But I would agree with D up there that, relatively, it lacks proper feeling for serious track rider. It is very hard to tell whether I am nearing the tyre's grip limit (and lean angle) or not, unlike Bridgestones or Pirellis (except Rosso) that I tried.
So, saying that, it would be hard to say "just ride sensibly and you'll be right" without being too slow for the Fast or Medium-Fast group.
I think the Pures would be perfectly OK for Slow and Slow-Medium group, though.

And while it is a superb tyre, it is no Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa Pro. But, then again, the Pures' price is great (compared to Supercorsa Pro's $750) and the durability-vs-grip for the road is excellent.

Although, someone once told me expensive tyres are cheap insurance.

Would I buy it again?
If I ride mostly on the road then yes.
If I ride purely on the track then no.
If I do half-half, I'd go for next step up if I have the money.
If I use the bike for commuting, then definitely a yes.

[DEATH_INC.]

So, saying that, it would be hard to say "just ride sensibly and you'll be right" without being too slow for the Fast or Medium-Fast group.
I ran 'em around hamton at a 'more than fast enough for the fast group' pace without any issues. But I agree, as a track only tyre they leave a bit to be desired.

[Marmoot]

I ran 'em around hamton at a 'more than fast enough for the fast group' pace without any issues. But I agree, as a track only tyre they leave a bit to be desired.

Yea mate. Not saying there's a problem with the grip.
Just the niggling feeling about not knowing for sure where the limit is and whether I'm starting to go too fast for the tyres or not.
Normally, in such situation, I would only find out about the limit when I cross it (and that's why it's not so good).

[skidz07]

have a set on now have done 6000k on them yep they nearly shagged but they aint square yet either. have found with these tyres you need to fettle with your suspension as there is the weight differance to take into account. have been running my rear @ 41psi & the front @ 36psi this seems to work a treat. have had no grip issues in wet @ all these hoops seem to be the bees knees once you have worked your suspension out. bloody hard trye to fault

[Dazza]

have a set on now have done 6000k on them yep they nearly shagged but they aint square yet either. have found with these tyres you need to fettle with your suspension as there is the weight differance to take into account. have been running my rear @ 41psi & the front @ 36psi this seems to work a treat. have had no grip issues in wet @ all these hoops seem to be the bees knees once you have worked your suspension out. bloody hard trye to fault

I would agree with the above, I was running my rear @ 38psi & she would've lasted to 5000 but replaced the rear with a Pilot Road 2CT for the SI trip & fitted a new pure to the front which I think will be the combination I'll be running for a while.

[SVboy]

I am running some race scrubbed ones on the gsxr and, while i dont like them as much as the 2ct's, have no rreason to complain......just not the "feel" of the 2cts? watch this space!

[skidz07]

what the hell is going on out there in scoota land :shit: i must be a muppet cos i cant understand why lots of you run such low pressure in your hoops :facepalm: if you guys are ride`n on the road what`s the benefit, what do you get out of running 'FLAT' tyres??? yes i understand that your tyres heat up but the manufacture allows for this when they make the jolly things so why do people insist on running low pressure ??? the other thing is if you ride in the rain with low pressure the tread is not as open & will not disperse water as well as if you had say 40psi which opens the tread & allows it to do its job bettera job ( i say 40psi cos i talk of 190 section tyres)
PLEASE HELP :blink::blink:

[skidz07]

I am running some race scrubbed ones on the gsxr and, while i dont like them as much as the 2ct's, have no rreason to complain......just not the "feel" of the 2cts? watch this space!
why not svboy they are softer than your normal 2ct & are the same shape.remember these tyres are lighter so there is less unsprung weight maybe try set your suspension up to suit & if you too run low pressure have a stab @ beefing it up a little................... go on be a devil hahaha

[MD]

Just picked myself up a new pair of the pures today. Yet to put them back on the bike so I can't comment on them yet, other than the price. $468 fitted to the bike. :gob:

Same here. I got a special offer of a pair for $450. I put the front on my new Tiger a few weeks ago before doing my annual Sth Island tour. I got half way round the SI and had to replace the rear with a PP2CT (limited choices in Greymouth on a weekend). So I wont get the rear Pure on until I've worn out this PP.

I tried a Pure on the front of the D675 and liked it. Probably just in my mind but the front seemed to feel lighter - for the better I mean. Easier to turn and I swear the front wheel was even more eager to lift off. Couldn't normally pull a wheelie in 3rd without lots of clutch and a purpose built ramp. But with the Pure on I was surprised to get a 'no clutch flick needed' wheelie under way in 3rd on a slight rise.

Possibly...but my minds not made up on this yet, the softer sides on the Pure may wear a bit faster than others, such as the Conti Sports Attacks I've been using. I sold the D675 before I had a chance to wear the Pure out, so it's too soon to make a call on tyre life yet.

I'm happy with the level of hard cornering grip and feedback form the Pure. I didn't get to try it on the track though

[doc]

I put the front on my new Tiger a few weeks ago before doing my annual Sth Island tour. I was surprised to get a 'no clutch flick needed' wheelie under way in 3rd on a slight rise.


Wasn't you on the Lime green one, with exhausts under the seat, about to go up the hill just leaving picton ?

[MD]

Wasn't you on the Lime green one, with exhausts under the seat, about to go up the hill just leaving picton ?

Not me. Mine's black.

[SVboy]

why not svboy they are softer than your normal 2ct & are the same shape.remember these tyres are lighter so there is less unsprung weight maybe try set your suspension up to suit & if you too run low pressure have a stab @ beefing it up a little................... go on be a devil hahaha

Been on the track, road scratching and on some road trips. Tyres havnt put a foot wrong, but I dont realy like them. I agree-fit Pures and you need to play with the suspension. Still a PP2ct fan! Have not played with pressures apart from track-[31f 31-29r] Felt 'nervous' at the track and did not inspire confidence to reall lean it over.
On the rough Akaroa hill, same feeling until I backed off front preload and comp f and r. With softer settings, nice on a cruise over to the Woodstock rally that included some really wet bits!

[NZsarge]

$468 fitted to the bike. :gob:


Same here. I got a special offer of a pair for $450.
Jeez I wish someone would offer me tires I liked at those prices, I paid $570 + fitting and thought I was doing ok... :facepalm:
My set last about 5000 km give or take a little bit, big bike with an even bigger bloke on it so... Wasn't loving the front at the end of it's life though, kept feeling like it wanted to tuck under in tight corners which i've never had issues with before. On the + side they wore nice and even which is what I was hoping they'd do but it might also be due to the suspension upgrades the bike had undergone not long before fitting as the standard Pilot Powers i've slipped on now seem to be wearing pretty well too (evenly) giving that before all the P Power's i've run before have gutted the centre...

[onearmedbandit]

I know what you mean about the feeling of the front tucking, but I think it's just the speed it drops in at, once mid corner leant over they are very stable, much more in my mind than the Corsa's I took off. Loving them so far

[trumpy]

I have a brand new set of Pures in my garage; $450 plus freight if anybody wants them.
120/70/17
180/55/17

[NZsarge]

I know what you mean about the feeling of the front tucking, but I think it's just the speed it drops in at, once mid corner leant over they are very stable, much more in my mind than the Corsa's I took off. Loving them so far

Hmmm, yeah possibly. It wasn't a very nice feeling kinda like... fark that was close! Nearly dropped it type feeling. But to be completely fair it didn't help that the fueling on the ZX14 is a bit average at low speeds and it can be a bit lurchy when you want to make slight throttle adjustment which helps to unsettle the front a bit but as i said it hasn't occurred on any other tyre. That said I didn't attempt to set the bike up for the Power Pure's at all which might have helped.
I think in the long run i'll stick with Pilot Power's and see how long these last now I have had the suspension modded, if they last a couple of thousand more k's i'll stick with them. There is ofcourse the new Road 3's coming out soon....:scratch:
I did at one point try a P Power on the front with a Road 2 on the rear and the wasn't too ugly a combo so i might do the same only with the Road 3 and see how that goes. Now they have a 55 profile in their 190 width sport touring tires it'll help no end.

[Camshaft]

gt a pair on my gixxer thou coming off pilot power 2cts, the pures feel alot more responsive and have advantage of softer compound on sides which make you feel very stable at high lean angles

[MD]

Since my Dec. post I've worn out the fr Pure and last week put the rr Pure on - they were purchased as a pair.

When new they are a good sporty tire. Plenty of cornering grip and feedback.
BUT, I'm not likely to use Pures again. After 5500km the front was admittedly looking pretty bare, but going by my past experiences and judgement, I was comfortable that it had another 1000km of life left in it. I was wrong. Unlike other tires that gradually start to loose their grip and bit by bit let you know it. The Pures were great one second then at the flick of a switch ready to dump me at the slightest sign that I was thinking about leaning into a corner.

Front washed out in a tight hairpin and lifted both tires off the deck. Little slide along on the footpeg and the bike righted itself. I stopped to see if I had struck oil or something. Nope. At the next garage I pull in to check pressures, all OK. The rest of that day's riding and it just got worse. Changed the next day for a Conti Sport Attack. Old favourites of mine. I don't like unpleasant surprises like that.

[NZsarge]

I meant to mention too, since the development of the Road 3's the Pilot Pures have also had an update in the 2ct composition as well, new for 2011.

[BoristheBiter]

I know what you mean about the feeling of the front tucking, but I think it's just the speed it drops in at, once mid corner leant over they are very stable, much more in my mind than the Corsa's I took off. Loving them so far

thats why i probably will not put any back my bike.
I like to have feed back and with these there just is none.

I know what you mean about how it feels like the front will tuck in, it drops in so quick, very unnerving.

[Nonbeliever]

I meant to mention too, since the development of the Road 3's the Pilot Pures have also had an update in the 2ct composition as well, new for 2011.

thats interesting, have you a link to the road3's??

[NZsarge]

thats why i probably will not put any back my bike.
I like to have feed back and with these there just is none.

I know what you mean about how it feels like the front will tuck in, it drops in so quick, very unnerving.
I don't mind an aggressive tyre on the front as it help speed up the turn in on the 14, being long in the wheelbase this helps in the tight going roads. Only near the end of the life of the Pure did it feel like it wanted to tuck in the tightest slower corners.

thats interesting, have you a link to the road3's??
Google it dude, there a bit of info kicking around on them now.

[DEATH_INC.]

what the hell is going on out there in scoota land :shit: i must be a muppet cos i cant understand why lots of you run such low pressure in your hoops :facepalm: if you guys are ride`n on the road what`s the benefit, what do you get out of running 'FLAT' tyres??? yes i understand that your tyres heat up but the manufacture allows for this when they make the jolly things so why do people insist on running low pressure ??? the other thing is if you ride in the rain with low pressure the tread is not as open & will not disperse water as well as if you had say 40psi which opens the tread & allows it to do its job bettera job ( i say 40psi cos i talk of 190 section tyres)
PLEASE HELP :blink::blink:
Because with those stupid high pressures they skip off all those lovely little bumps they insist on having on our shit roads at speed. :facepalm: Lower pressure means they conform to the shape of the road better.
BTW if anyone wants a set of these mine are for sale, only used a couple of times (less than 500k), not far off new and pre scuffed :) $350 pair 190/55 and 120/70. I'm going back to the Dunnies (pm me)

[NZsarge]

BTW if anyone wants a set of these mine are for sale, only used a couple of times (less than 500k), not far off new and pre scuffed :) $350 pair 190/55 and 120/70.

I'd be keen but i'm skint after xmas holiday's and still trying to catch up, if you haven't sold them in a month or so drop me a line I might be able to do something about it then.

[SVboy]

Wow! Interesting the debate and different experiences people are having with these tyres. Usually new tyre comments are similar in content, but Pures seem a bit polarising: watch this space!

[Marmoot]

not far off new and pre scuffed :) $350 pair 190/55 and 120/70. I'm going back to the Dunnies (pm me)

How about knocking off 10mm off the rear width and reduce the price a little? I need 180-wide.

[DEATH_INC.]

How about knocking off 10mm off the rear width and reduce the price a little? I need 180-wide.
Spose I could get frenchy to come and do some helicopters on it :blink:

[Mully]

Spose I could get frenchy to come and do some helicopters on it :blink:

Can you drop them to 190/50?

Thanks.

[MaxCannon]

I thought I'd weight in with another 2c
I've clocked up a bit over 5000km on the Pures and I like them more than when I first fitted them.
The difference - tinkering with the suspension.
Last outing at Hampton I mucked around with compression and rebound adjustment (a couple of extra clicks at each end) and added more pre-load on the rear.
Front is now more eager to turn and grips really well. Great stability under brakes.
Back feels planted and slides nicely when you get frisky with the throttle.

Auckland weather has also provided some good wet test conditions on the roads of late and they have performed well.

Most of the milage has been commuting but so far they are resisting squaring off.
I check pressures each week (35F / 40R for road and 33F / 32 R on track).
Unless wear changes drastically it looks like I'll get another 5000km out of them.

[NZsarge]

I thought I'd weight in with another 2c
I've clocked up a bit over 5000km on the Pures and I like them more than when I first fitted them.
The difference - tinkering with the suspension.
Last outing at Hampton I mucked around with compression and rebound adjustment (a couple of extra clicks at each end) and added more pre-load on the rear.
Front is now more eager to turn and grips really well. Great stability under brakes.
Back feels planted and slides nicely when you get frisky with the throttle.

Auckland weather has also provided some good wet test conditions on the roads of late and they have performed well.

Most of the milage has been commuting but so far they are resisting squaring off.
I check pressures each week (35F / 40R for road and 33F / 32 R on track).
Unless wear changes drastically it looks like I'll get another 5000km out of them.

Yeah I think all around they are pretty sensitive to settings and pressures, I think if you're prepared to change a few things to suit the tires it pays off but i guess you could apply that theory to most tires...
Edit: 5000km with the same to go is outstanding milage for that ilk of tyre.

[Nonbeliever]

So you guys are predicting 10000kms ?? blardy hell

[Ntoxcated]

I managed 6000 kms including 5 track days, although by the end of the last track day the rear was sliding a bit much for me. There was still plenty of tread in the centre so the hard compound was wearing well, but the outsides overheated and suffered (was running 32psi). The front was still just legal, but was starting to feel a bit nervous.

[MaxCannon]

I got 11,000km from the Metlzer M3 I had on the back previously.
I think I averaged a bit over 1000km a month.

I think quality suspension and watching the pressures closely extends tyre life significantly.

[trumpy]

Coming up for 9,000km's on mine now. Slight squaring on the rear, possibly because I ran much too low pressures for a while, but still plenty of grip and tread (bearing in mind that I am old and slow and it's only a little 600 hundy).

My spare set is still for sale if anyone is interested (see a few posts up).