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Kwaky
30th August 2010, 20:54
Ok, this has probably been ansered somewhere but I can't find it so I'm gonna throw it out there again :innocent: What would be the minimum tools and or spare parts you should take out when going out on the trails.
dino3310
30th August 2010, 21:01
local rides(day rides) ive just got spanner, 3tyre irons, a little patch kit.
overnighters - spanner, 3tyre irons, a little patch kit, wire, bungy, lecky tape, zippy ties, Beer.
dont forget beer
Oscar
30th August 2010, 21:04
AA Roadside Assist Card.
JATZ
30th August 2010, 21:20
Depends.......
On a newish bike, just what dino said :yes: On an older bike I carry allsorts, enough to strip the bike down on the roadside (DR350 excluded :shutup:) and bodge something up :blink:
What Oscar said is prolly best though
.chris
30th August 2010, 21:20
I always carry.
bike specific tool kit
tire irons
spare tube
tube repair kit
first aid kit (kathmandu kit + a few extras)
survival kit (fire lighter-fire steel,survival knife,paracord)
food
water
various sized zip ties
duct tape
I don't bother to carry beer, cause I know dino carries some I can steal.
Taz
30th August 2010, 21:22
I'll just make sure I ride with people who have all of the above.
Oscar
30th August 2010, 21:26
I forgot - always have a little shit to help:
http://oscar.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Pooey/New-no-name-006/512302602_QEXE9-L.jpg
dino3310
30th August 2010, 21:27
DONT forget the Dunny paper:done:
bart
30th August 2010, 21:36
I carry a shitty old push bike pump (off a raliegh twenty). It's enough to get a few pound of pressure in.
pump
2 tubes
tyre repare kit
2 tyre levers
soapy stuff
small rubber hammer (bloody DR650 17 inch tyres :angry:)
spanners etc
pressure gauge
Basic first aid (amazing what you can do with sticking plaster tape stuff, you know, the stuff you cut yourself)
cable ties
duct tape
small length of rope
rubbish bags
what else.....I think that's about it. :blink:
warewolf
30th August 2010, 21:36
Search 'tools' in the 'Setting up for adventure riding' sticky...
bart
30th August 2010, 21:53
It's amazing what you can carry in a small bag like on the back of my bike. Don't leave home without it.
Oh, and always have cash. Even a grumpy farmer may help when a 20's waved in front of his nose.
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Moki
30th August 2010, 21:56
This has been well covered in Zukin's sticky.
Woodman
30th August 2010, 22:01
yep been asked before, but.......
2 tubes
2 shorty tyre levers
set of allen keys (most don't fit anything but I hate breaking a set)
pliers
some spanners
pump
clutch and brake levers cabletied to frame.
survival bag
cable ties
pocket knife
some nuts and bolts
small puncture repair kit
duct and insulation tape.
Some other shit that I can't remember and sometimes less cos i leave it in the shed.
Don't worry about a first aid kit cos I can't really see the point. e.g. a first aid kit is no use for broken bones, and tee shirts/pressure etc are all you need to stop serious bleeding.
There
Squiggles
30th August 2010, 22:07
yep been asked before, but.......
2 tubes
2 shorty tyre levers
set of allen keys (most don't fit anything but I hate breaking a set)
pliers
some spanners
pump
clutch and brake levers cabletied to frame.
survival bag
cable ties
pocket knife
some nuts and bolts
small puncture repair kit
duct and insulation tape.
Some other shit that I can't remember and sometimes less cos i leave it in the shed.
Don't worry about a first aid kit cos I can't really see the point. e.g. a first aid kit is no use for broken bones, and tee shirts/pressure etc are all you need to stop serious bleeding.
There
What about locktight? :shutup:
Woodman
30th August 2010, 22:12
That would be a bit like shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted, or was that a KLR (Keep Loctite Ready) dig.
rok-the-boat
30th August 2010, 22:18
The tools are not the issue, it's what kind of things you want to be able to do. Fix a puncture, adjust the chain, tighten up certain bolts, replace bulbs - the common stuff. Decide what yo uare capable of doing and tool up accordingly.
cooneyr
30th August 2010, 23:01
Nobody's mention short length of chain, master links and chain beaker. Carry 525 stuff so can use on a 520 chain as well. Had to use beaker a few times, two master links but never the short length of chain. Never used on my bike though!
NordieBoy
31st August 2010, 01:21
That would be a bit like shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted, or was that a KLR (Keep Loctite Ready) dig.
Metal putty?
zeRax
31st August 2010, 01:42
Metal putty?
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amen, must have in any good more than basic tool kit
cynna
31st August 2010, 03:19
I carry a shitty old push bike pump (off a raliegh twenty). It's enough to get a few pound of pressure in.
modern pumps are less then half the length of the old type and pump both when you push and pull, only about $20. no good for hitting dogs tho like the old ones....
clint640
31st August 2010, 08:20
Yep, been well covered before, make sure your tools actually work on the bike - do a service, tyre change etc at home with the tools you carry. Even if you have no clue how to use tools it's worth taking some of the ones that are specific to your bike plus money to buy beer for those who do have bike fixing ability :yes:
Cheers
Clint
Woodman
31st August 2010, 18:38
Metal putty?
Yes, should have remembered that.
Moki
31st August 2010, 19:08
That would be a bit like shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted, or was that a KLR (Keep Loctite Ready) dig.
Ouch?! :blink: where did that come from. Clandestine DR sympathiser.....
NordieBoy
31st August 2010, 19:45
Ouch?! :blink: where did that come from. Clandestine DR sympathiser.....
He's running DR footpegs you know...
wysper
31st August 2010, 20:57
This has been well covered in Zukin's sticky.
Is the list in the first post pretty much the consensus of the whole thread, or should you read through it for a complete list.
Cos the list in the first post looks pretty good and is pretty much what I am looking to assemble for my kit.
I know you can always have more and some with choose other things.. but ya gotta start somewhere!!
dino3310
31st August 2010, 22:02
I know you can always have more and some with choose other things.. but ya gotta start somewhere!!
i started somewhere many years ago and still havent got a descent kit :rofl: but i got enough to keep me moving:Punk:
Woodman
31st August 2010, 22:19
He's running DR footpegs you know...
The bike was originally a DR, but I replaced all the inferior parts, except the footpegs. KLRs have shit footpegs.
Back on topic, Dino why 3 tyre levers??
dino3310
31st August 2010, 22:28
The bike was originally a DR, but I replaced all the inferior parts, except the footpegs. KLRs have shit footpegs.
Back on topic, Dino why 3 tyre levers??
inferior parts :rofl:
2 normal ones and a special one for that last bit of tyre thats always a c@nt to get on
YellowDog
31st August 2010, 22:39
The basic tools provided give you a couple of scanners and a screwdriver. I carry one of those multitool plier/allen key/wrench sets and also some cable ties.
I would probably rely on breakdown cover in the event of a serious problem. When I had an off a couple of years ago, I had enough tools to get myself going again but with some difficulty, hence the addition of the multitool.
clint640
1st September 2010, 13:10
I would probably rely on breakdown cover in the event of a serious problem. .
I wouldn't. For me the combination of a problem that me &/or my riding buddies can't deal with & an operational telephone seems to be a rare one. After I had fixed my own vehicle on the side of the road before the AA arrived a couple of times I decided to give up the membership.
Zukin's list of tools & spares is a pretty good one, adapt to suit.
Cheers
Clint
rok-the-boat
8th September 2010, 11:31
You always need 3 tyre levers, but you can get away with 2 plus a spanner or somethng, and/or trapped fingers, at a pinch, at the side of the road.
cooneyr
8th September 2010, 12:45
You always need 3 tyre levers, but you can get away with 2 plus a spanner or somethng, and/or trapped fingers, at a pinch, at the side of the road.
I've never used 3 tyre leavers and I've changed tyres infamous DR650 and KTM 950 Adv rear wheels. Also you don't need anything more than the 200mm (ish) ones. Just make sure the tyre is properly in the well of the rim and bob's your uncle.
Padmei
8th September 2010, 17:26
I've never used 3 tyre leavers and I've changed tyres infamous DR650 and KTM 950 Adv rear wheels. Also you don't need anything more than the 200mm (ish) ones. Just make sure the tyre is properly in the well of the rim and bob's your uncle.
I've used 2 as well but have just bought a 3rd from T7 as 2 are a pain in the arse - three will def make it easier.
bart
8th September 2010, 19:25
My third tyre lever looks remarkably like a rubber hammer. :innocent:
rok-the-boat
8th September 2010, 21:19
Well, I have used 2 and even 1 lever plus spanners or whatever was at hand, but now, I have 3, so I use 3, and it is just so much easier.
cooneyr
8th September 2010, 21:29
The original post said you need three tyre leavers. This is a little different from its easier or nice to have three leavers. If you are packing light then two is all you need and even that is debatable.
I'll get my anorak . . . .
Peril
8th September 2010, 21:44
The original post said you need three tyre leavers. This is a little different from its easier or nice to have three leavers. If you are packing light then two is all you need and even that is debatable.
I'll get my anorak . . . .
Don't forget your cloth cap and note pad too :yes:
Crim
8th September 2010, 21:54
The original post said you need three tyre leavers. This is a little different from its easier or nice to have three leavers. If you are packing light then two is all you need and even that is debatable.
I'll get my anorak . . . .
Anorak wearer - just what I need - Am I right, Ryan, in assuming that in my "on the bike" tool kit I only need the folding chain breaker with a few clip style master links?:confused:
Cheers, Crim
warewolf
8th September 2010, 22:00
I've used 2 as well but have just bought a 3rd from T7 as 2 are a pain in the arse - three will def make it easier.I only use 2x250mm, despite having more available having cut some in half to make frankenspanners. IME 3 is more work and slower and the third keeps getting in the way. Three levers takes more space so stretches the bead tighter, probably negating any benefit of extra leverage.
Don't forget, if everyone carries a bare minimal kit, between a couple of buddies you've got plenty on hand. Better that way than one person trying to carry everything and the others nothing.
Oh yeah... add some coins to the metal putty - can be used to fill holes when you can't find the missing piece.
Padmei
9th September 2010, 07:45
Anorak wearer - just what I need - Am I right, Ryan, in assuming that in my "on the bike" tool kit I only need the folding chain breaker with a few clip style master links?:confused:
Cheers, Crim
Have you changed a master link before? I have tried very unsuccessfully at home with a no. of different tools but couldnt get it on right. I have bought a chain holder thing from T7 to help out.
NordieBoy
9th September 2010, 08:05
I need to change/fix my master link but the clip is proving a bugger to budge.
clint640
9th September 2010, 08:22
Anorak wearer - just what I need - Am I right, Ryan, in assuming that in my "on the bike" tool kit I only need the folding chain breaker with a few clip style master links?:confused:
Cheers, Crim
I reckon a chain breaker is overkill on the trail if you check & maintain your chain occasionally. I've never had a chain fail on me. I can remove & reinstall a clip master link with a screwdriver, lil vicegrips & an M6 nut. With the mini file & hacksaw that I carry I could remove links if required. I do carry a spare master link.
Cheers
Clint
Crim
9th September 2010, 08:50
I reckon a chain breaker is overkill on the trail if you check & maintain your chain occasionally. I've never had a chain fail on me. I can remove & reinstall a clip master link with a screwdriver, lil vicegrips & an M6 nut. With the mini file & hacksaw that I carry I could remove links if required. I do carry a spare master link.
Cheers
Clint
yep - all makes total sense - thanks mate
cooneyr
9th September 2010, 10:04
Anorak wearer - just what I need - Am I right, Ryan, in assuming that in my "on the bike" tool kit I only need the folding chain breaker with a few clip style master links?:confused:
Cheers, Crim
I do carry a about 6 links of 525 chain, two 525 clip type master links and a folder chain breaker. Just use plyers or whatever to get the master links back on. I've personally never needed to use the clips and breaker but I've used them on two other peoples bikes. Clint is right through - if you maintain your chain properly you shouldn't have any issues. The two times I've used the tools is for dirt bikes (CRM250 and 450EXC) that were being adv ridden.
Oscar
9th September 2010, 10:14
I do carry a about 6 links of 525 chain, two 525 clip type master links and a folder chain breaker. Just use plyers or whatever to get the master links back on. I've personally never needed to use the clips and breaker but I've used them on two other peoples bikes. Clint is right through - if you maintain your chain properly you shouldn't have any issues. The two times I've used the tools is for dirt bikes (CRM250 and 450EXC) that were being adv ridden.
One of the Kawasaki MotoGP bikes snapped a chain a coupla years ago.
It was freaky, the thing went down the track like an angry snake.
bart
9th September 2010, 13:27
I've had a chain snap on a farm bike. Doing 'skids' and the chain snapped, wrapped around the gear lever, and cracked the engine case. Of course I was about 5 miles from home. Not a cheap exercise. Lucky it didn't hit my foot. I don't think red band gumboots would have saved me.
I'm probably a bit over cautious now.
Taz
9th September 2010, 14:21
I reckon a chain breaker is overkill on the trail if you check & maintain your chain occasionally. I've never had a chain fail on me. I can remove & reinstall a clip master link with a screwdriver, lil vicegrips & an M6 nut. With the mini file & hacksaw that I carry I could remove links if required. I do carry a spare master link.
Cheers
Clint
Vice grips and 6mm nut is what I use also. Easy as.
dino3310
9th September 2010, 14:54
i will leave my tools at home now i know what you guys are carrying:shifty:
avgas
9th September 2010, 15:06
I forgot - always have a little shit to help:
What a turkey!
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