The cove

[scorpious]

Everyone needs to watch the movie "The Cove". :angry2::mad:

32,000 dolphins are slaughtered every year by Japanese fishermen. :cry:

Here's a some footage...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k62kc07m1Dc&feature=player_embedded

[marty]

no, we don't need to watch it to know what's going on. nor do we need to watch baby seals being clubbed to death to know what's going on. nor do we need to watch pigs living in cages here in NZ to know what's going on.

We can educate ourselves, and make decisions about how we deal with that information, but we don't need to be told we need to do anything.

How does watching this stuff happen, stop it from happening?

[scorpious]

Knowing whats happening is not the same as seeing it.

[marty]

so what are you doing about it?

[avgas]

Tis sad either way.
I mark swimming with Dolphins as one of my greatest experiences.

[scorpious]

so what are you doing about it?

Yea i don't know yet. I spend all last night thinking about that. I'm definitely going to do something though.

[MisterD]

Probably a mercy for the dolphins, given that all the pilot whales that beach on our coasts seem to have stomach ulcers because they're starving due to us eating all the squid...

I love squid, but I don't eat it any more.

[imdying]

Ooooh a dolphin snuff film! I feel a hot flush coming on :love:

[scorpious]

Probably a mercy for the dolphins, given that all the pilot whales that beach on our coasts seem to have stomach ulcers because they're starving due to us eating all the squid...

Yea I'm sure they're really relieved to be chased into small cages then killed 1 by 1. :angry:

So your solution to a problem caused by us overfishing, is to slaughter all the dolphins. Fucking great way to go. You could become a politician with that attitude!

[nodrog]

32,000 dolphins are slaughtered every year by Japanese fishermen. :cry:

Wow, thats nothing compared to the amount of cows, sheep, pigs, vegetables, etc slaughtered every year.

Fanny

[avgas]

Wow, thats nothing compared to the amount of cows, sheep, pigs, vegetables, etc slaughtered every year.

Fanny
I have swam with vegies before also. It was not as exciting.

[scorpious]

Wow, thats nothing compared to the amount of cows, sheep, pigs, vegetables, etc slaughtered every year.

Fanny

The cows, sheep, pigs, vegetables are in no danger of becoming extinct.

[nodrog]

The cows, sheep, pigs, vegetables are in no danger of becoming extinct.

The Dolphins would be in no danger of becoming extintict if the tree huggers allowed them to be farmed. Its just another form of food. There is somebody right now bleating on IndianBiker about how New Zealand slaughters cows.

Fanny

[avgas]

The Dolphins would be in no danger of becoming extintict if the tree huggers allowed them to be farmed. Its just another form of food. There is somebody right now bleating on IndianBiker about how New Zealand slaughters cows.

Fanny
Nah they only talk about how cool an R6 is......:shifty:

[MisterD]

Yea I'm sure they're really relieved to be chased into small cages then killed 1 by 1. :angry:

So your solution to a problem caused by us overfishing, is to slaughter all the dolphins. Fucking great way to go. You could become a politician with that attitude!

Sheesh take a chill pill...a flippant comment to highlight the slower agony of dolphins' relatives closer to home, that we can actually do something about and you get yer panties all in a bunch.

As to your second point, no, I'm proudly completely unelectable :shifty:

[scissorhands]

RIP Moko :bye:

How cruel of his kind to bully him from the community. Burn them!

[fliplid]

Bit nasty, but the original "raw footage" was worse and has since been pulled off 'Tube :sick:
http://www.earthlings.com/ kinda makes you think :angry:

[marty]

I guess the difference between cows/sheep etc and dolphins is the emotional intelligence attached to sea mammals, vs that attached to cows/sheep etc. Watching abbatoir footage can be just as disturbing - it's is just a more controlled and regulated scene, and we breed those animals for our benefit.

Now, I don't see NZ butchers cutting ears/legs off cows and sheep while they are still alive, but i see dolphin/shark/whales being cut up and bits cut off them while they are still clearly alive. Unfortunately, in some cultures, the more gruesome and extreme the death or animal's suffering during its death, the higher the potency of that animal's meat appears to be.

I don't agree or condone the Japanese' behaviour with this or many other - in fact it has helped me make some decisions about what products to purchase over the past few years. I don't know what do do about it - it's in my area of concern not influence at the moment.

[imdying]

Meh, they're only dolphins... they're waaaay down the list... I'm a lot more interested in humans not doing that to other humans.

[george formby]

Touchy feely propoganda. Whales, dolphins, walruses & seals are being slaughtered all over the world in a similar fashion. We like them, they are cute & it tugs our little heart strings to see them treated like this. I think it is cruel & totally unnecessary but stopping these culls will have zero impact on marine mammal numbers, it just makes us feel better.
We cannot see the results of starvation due to overfishing or the pain caused by pollution which is really important to us. The ocean food chains are collapsing, starting with krill at the bottom of the pyramid & working up to the critters we can be emotional about. We are playing jenga with our future. It's proper f@#$%^d.

The same thing is happening on our farms, hideous cruelty discretely packaged. The UK has recently allowed cows to be fed cows again:shit:
Enough of this, I'm having cat for tea.

[Kickaha]

.. I'm a lot more interested in humans not doing that to other humans.

It'll never happen

[puddy]

Mmmmm........I love seafood! Nothing like deep fried dolphin, whale,baby seals (battered of course!), with tartare sauce and chips!:yes: Mmmmmmmmm!

[puddy]

And beer. You have to have a beer with takeaways!:yes:

[marie_speeds]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcOtQRaaZFs

[scissorhands]

Our NZ red meat is grown in the sun outside on a farm, but our white meats are grown in an indoor factory. Kiwis eat way too much meat and diary, anyway.

The longest lived people are generally semi vegetarian, some with diary.

[imdying]

Extended longevity is overrated.

[puddy]

So will I live longer if I keep a diary? Or is it only if I eat them?:shifty:

[avgas]

The longest lived people are generally semi vegetarian, some with diary.
Thank goodness I am not one of those carnivore humans, and eat semi vegetarian........

[nodrog]

The longest lived people are generally semi vegetarian, some with diary.

Yes, I would like to try and live a longer life, but I just dont like the side effect of being a dirty Hippie.

Fanny

[Pixie]

Mmmmmmmm dolphin

[Pixie]

I guess the difference between cows/sheep etc and dolphins is the emotional intelligence attached to sea mammals,

Is that another name for hippy bullshit.
The stupid cetaceans don't even manage to remember that they should stay in the water.
At least cows don't go and drown themselves

[Swoop]

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[Marmoot]

You guys should watch Hotel Rwanda. It's more relevant.

Or, failing that, just watch CNN.

But personally, I only watch movie to escape reality. I don't need reality in my movies. That's why I like Inception.

[hedgier1]

This movie is a documentry on the slaughter of millions of dolphins in Japan.

All motorcyclists should band together to try and help stop this.

We all band together for Charity rides why doen't someone organise a NZ wide Protest ride against the Slaughter of the Dolphins in Taiji "The Cove" Japan.

The Japanese fisherman have been told that the reason they have dimishing fish supplies is that the dolphin has been eating all of them. This is not the case. The Fisherman have been told Dolphins are a Pest of nature. So they slaughter as many as they can. The Police in Taiji are backing the fisherman (Usual corruption).

I think we should organise a ride to raise money to support "Saving the Dolphins in Taiji Japan. And let Parliment and the Japanese know we mean to help the world turning green.

Anyone else who wants to support the cause please like The Cove on Facebook.
Donate money for this cause. Dolphins are part of Nature.
Theres too many getting Slaughtered

STOP THE SLAUGHTER NOW!!!!!

[James Deuce]

Bits of plastic washed down storm water drains kill more sea mammals every day than those guys kill in that documentary.

Stop littering and I might consider it.

[JimO]

whats a dolphin ever done for me, how about stopping the slaughter of millions of cows/sheep/chickens time to slaughter the greenies

[hedgier1]

Glad to inform you dude that I am recycling and not littering. also dont buy plastic bags to pack groceries in anymore. I agree. Littering is a major problem also. But this is man slaughtering dolphins and also selling it as whale meat to people. Dolphin meat is full of mercury. Not a good thing for people to eat.
Yes Plastic is a problem as well. If you know of a way to stop the pollution with plastic let me know and I will support you.

[hedgier1]

Watch the movie!!!!!!

[James Deuce]

Concentrate on a winnable fight. You can actively prevent littering simply by picking something up and dropping it in a bin. That's a win. Trying to remotely modify a culture is the sort of ridiculous activism that achieves nothing except acrimony and stress.

Plastic waste in the sea is a much bigger problem than The Cove. Much bigger. Mediterranean cultures eat Dolphins as well, as do a few African and Sea East Asian ones.

You can pointlessly rant about something you can't change or you can potentially prevent the death of a sea mammal by putting a coke bottle someone else dropped into a bin. Make the revolution a bunch of easy things to do.

I did watch the movie and it was a manipulative piece of explotative film making, using young idealistic "westerners" to point at the "evil" Asians and declare their practices abhorrent. Not a long term strategy.

[hedgier1]

Everyone has their own opinion. And what causes they follow. This is one I support.
One person knowing about it is One Step closer.

[marty]

ever heard of/seen the search key? We've already had this argument, and it was a waste of time the first time around

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/128334-The-cove?highlight=cove

[marty]

This movie is a documentry on the slaughter of millions of dolphins in Japan.



*millions*???

Try around 1500/year in the cove.

Don't get me wrong - I am just as offended and upset about it as the next person, but a reality check is needed, and wild numbers being thrown about does nothing for the cause. The Japanese are influenced by 3 things - 1. Sensible political discussion, 2. Money, 3. The threat of another hydrogen/atomic bomb.

We can't afford #2, and don't have a really big bomb lying about, so political discussion and pressure is the only answer.

If you think that some greenies waving flags is going to help, search 'Ady Gill' and 'Sea Shepherd', and see how much $$ thay have had to throw at their cause to get noticed - a few bikers at the bottom of the world is hardly going to do anything.

[EJK]

Saw it. Pretty well made I say.

I lol'd at the Private Space guy.

[hedgier1]

I agree "Private Space" is a great name. But I can't believe all of the time the japanese waste by trying to hide it. The people following in cars and the way they are stopping people taking photographs. They know they are in the wrong so why not stop it. The Mercury poisoning to their own race is harsh. The Labeling of dolphin as whale meat. People Die from Mercury poisoning.

Its a great movie.

[hedgier1]

Marty

Millions have been killed over the years. And It is Cruel !!

[Virago]

...Millions have been killed over the years. And It is Cruel !!

Can you link us to some reliable statistics to back up the claim of "millions"...?

[hedgier1]

Read the first post and watch the film.

[JimO]

People Die from Mercury poisoning.

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poetic justice then innit, people kill dolphins, dolphins kill people, its the circle of life kimba

[EJK]

poetic justice then innit, people kill dolphins, dolphins kill people, its the circle of life kimba

"Poetic justice or tragic irony. You be the judge" - The Penguin Man (from Batman)

How suiting.

[marty]

Watch the movie!!!!!!

get fucked!!!!!!!