Interesting development - anybody else get this?

[ital916]

Came accross an interesting development for myself the other day in regards to four wheeled automobile driver behaviour. Some of you may have come accross this before, I certainly hadn't though.

Was running some errands on my bike after seeing my partner for lunch. Was wearing all the gear, high vis, headlight was one and I was sitting at about 40km/h as traffic was pretty heavy. I see a bus stop up ahead to unload/load passengers and realise the car behind it will get stuck. Anyway, I am right next to the car behind the bus (front wheel at his driver door), I see the driver check his mirror (good), then turn his head and check his blind spot (good), indicate (good) and then start merging (Huh!?). I toot my horn to duly tell him I am still there next to him. He turns his head and sees me and still keeps merging. I come to a complete stop to let him in as there is no room to swerve and no way to gas it out. All in all no very exciting, easily avoided but I had the right of way.

At the next lights I stop next to him and ask whether he saw me and why he forced me to stop when I had right of way. His response "I saw you mate, I just didnt care".

I was a bit miffed at that but as no harm was caused I merely pootled on my way.

I've come accross the "I didnt see you, I'm sorry" but never the "I saw you but didnt give a shit" response.

Anybody else had this said to them? Frustrating.

[SMOKEU]

In that case it might pay to write a strongly worded letter to the bus company expressing your concerns.

[wysper]

In that case it might pay to write a strongly worded letter to the bus company expressing your concerns.

I think it was the car behind the bus, not the bus.

[Bald Eagle]

"I saw you but didnt give a shit" response.

Anybody else had this said to them? Frustrating.

Have experienced the I'm bigger than you so fuck the right of way rules attitude from 4 wheel drivers.

Until I can get approval for a .50 cal mount on the bars I just have to leave them to it.

[Grubber]

I think it was the car behind the bus, not the bus.

It worries me somewhat that you had to explain that to him!:argh:

[Blinkwing]

That's typical 4WD behaviour, to be honest.

[Bounce001]

Came accross an interesting development for myself the other day in regards to four wheeled automobile driver behaviour. Some of you may have come accross this before, I certainly hadn't though.

Was running some errands on my bike after seeing my partner for lunch. Was wearing all the gear, high vis, headlight was one and I was sitting at about 40km/h as traffic was pretty heavy. I see a bus stop up ahead to unload/load passengers and realise the car behind it will get stuck. Anyway, I am right next to the car behind the bus (front wheel at his driver door), I see the driver check his mirror (good), then turn his head and check his blind spot (good), indicate (good) and then start merging (Huh!?). I toot my horn to duly tell him I am still there next to him. He turns his head and sees me and still keeps merging. I come to a complete stop to let him in as there is no room to swerve and no way to gas it out. All in all no very exciting, easily avoided but I had the right of way.

At the next lights I stop next to him and ask whether he saw me and why he forced me to stop when I had right of way. His response "I saw you mate, I just didnt care".

I was a bit miffed at that but as no harm was caused I merely pootled on my way.

I've come accross the "I didnt see you, I'm sorry" but never the "I saw you but didnt give a shit" response.

Anybody else had this said to them? Frustrating.

Kick his fucking tail lights, indicators in. When he asks you why - tell him you don't give a shit. :angry:

PS. A spark plug in the pocket is brilliant on windscreens.

[Jonno.]

This is Hi vis at work.

[monkey99]

This is Hi vis at work.


Occurs plenty at the Wellington Southbound merge to Terrace Tunnel :gob:
I've been bounced off a few car doors as the went from left to right lane... luckily on these two occasions I saw it coming and had the anchors out & emergency exit path... Still scares the crap out of you!!

Two excuses I've had were:



"I had to because that van cut me off" :bash:
" Sorry I saw you but was already halfway across & thought it was safer to keep merging" :crazy:

I'm still aghast at the absence of indicating in NZ... & the amount of crazy fcukers that U-turn all over the place (cops excluded/included?!)

[Bald Eagle]

Not surprising given the way some 2 wheel types cut through there on the shoulder at , and between lanes, at speed.
If we behave disrepectfully of other road users then we reap what we sow.

rant over

[Murray]

Happens all the time on Auckland motorway but usually car on car. If your lucky you may get a split second indication or they usually do it once the wheels have crossed into your lane.

[Malcolm]

Kick his fucking tail lights, indicators in. When he asks you why - tell him you don't give a shit. :angry:

PS. A spark plug in the pocket is brilliant on windscreens.

Personally, I think this is a perfect situation for urinating through his open window. Bonus points if you get him in the eye

[Bounce001]

Personally, I think this is a perfect situation for urinating through his open window. Bonus points if you get him in the eye

I like the way you think! But i might have a bit of trouble with that option!

[Gibbo89]

Kick his fucking tail lights, indicators in. When he asks you why - tell him you don't give a shit. :angry:

sounds like the best option for someone that retarded

[munster]

I like the way you think! But i might have a bit of trouble with that option!

This might help http://www.shewee.co.nz/

[Gibbo89]

how old would the person have been?

[yachtie10]

Well done for being aware and avoiding an incident

while you are in the right and he is a dick you handled it well

I have spent a fair amount of time riding overseas (especially s.e. Asia) and it allways mellows me out to how NZers drive. This would not be worth a mention in a lot of countries as it would be standard behaviour. It is also standard behaviour to be ready to avoid the sometimes random movement of others in traffic.

With our low licence standards, preocupation with speeding tickets and immigration policy I dont see things getting better.

[Swoop]

With our low licence standards, preocupation with speeding tickets and immigration policy I dont see things getting better.
Welcome to the Banana Republic!:yes:

[tigertim20]

Have experienced the I'm bigger than you so fuck the right of way rules attitude from 4 wheel drivers.

Until I can get approval for a .50 cal mount on the bars I just have to leave them to it.

ive had that too. but when you follow them to the next red light, and hop off, they notice that kevlar knuckled gloves wre going to really fucking hurt if they want to play the tough guy game, and they suddenly become very polite and apologetic. funny that.
Ive seldom had to actually DO anything, but getting off, and making them think 'fuck, is he gonna hit me'? is enough to make them say sorry, and think twice about doing it again.

[jasonzc]

Yesterday i was in the fastlane of northshore motorway going southbound, sitting on the left wheel track of the cagger infront.

After a while i saw a pair of headlights speeding up towards my tail, i thought he would stop the acceleration and fall behind like normal sane drivers. Instead he slowed down about 1m from my rear wheel and began to creep up to my rear wheel, his front bumper would of been in line wiht my rear axle, so he was between my rear wheel and the center concrete barrier. This all happened quite quickly, as soon as i realized , i changed to the left lane, only to have the fucker beep at me for a good 3 seconds.

Whats wose is that he had a baby on board sign on the back. Otherwise i wouldve sped up and kicked the door in.

I was damn confused, still am.. y the hell would some one do such a thing? I mean he just saved himself a car-length worth of time. I mean i ended up filtering past him whilst giving him the finger. Still quite miffed about the whole situation.

[Malcolm]

I like the way you think! But i might have a bit of trouble with that option!

Well I was going to suggest the shewee, but since someone beat me to it...how about a fake hand grenade? Chuck it through the window and get him to urinate on himself!

[avgas]

This is Hi vis at work.
Have to agree a bit here.
I used to have a problem when I was all polite like. Cars/Trucks/Buses didn't give a fuck about me.

I now ride with black jacket, jeans and a matt black helmet. Everyone avoids me as they think I am some kind of drug dealer.
Fuckin weird shit if you ask me

[PirateJafa]

Wearing a hi-viz does seem to bring more shit upon yourself.

However this is the sort of situation where it's better to just ride off. Then search his numberplate in the afternoon, and deflate all four wheels, fill the exhaust with builders foam and turn his water mains off then fill in with quick-set cement.

Then live and let live, I say.

[varminter]

Have experienced the I'm bigger than you so fuck the right of way rules attitude from 4 wheel drivers.

Until I can get approval for a .50 cal mount on the bars I just have to leave them to it.

I feel that the .50 BMG is a tad overkill for normal road use, too much co lateral damage. I personally favour a cut down .410. Effective for short range and much easier to aim. Perhaps if we drove or rode armed people would be more polite...or dead.

[swbarnett]

Yesterday i was in the fastlane of northshore motorway going southbound, sitting on the left wheel track of the cagger infront.

After a while i saw a pair of headlights speeding up towards my tail, i thought he would stop the acceleration and fall behind like normal sane drivers. Instead he slowed down about 1m from my rear wheel and began to creep up to my rear wheel, his front bumper would of been in line wiht my rear axle, so he was between my rear wheel and the center concrete barrier.
Last time this happened to me I pulled in front of them and stopped (traffic was stationary). The dumb look on his face while the traffic ahead advanced and I just sat there was priceless. He certainly got the message that he couldn't push me around in that way.

[Urano]

Perhaps if we drove or rode armed people would be more polite...or dead.

i'd bet on the latter. :D

anyway, look at the bright side: at least he saw you...

[morsedog]

Well I was going to suggest the shewee, but since someone beat me to it...how about a fake hand grenade? Chuck it through the window and get him to urinate on himself!

I like this plan. It seems to be the same everywhere with these crazy 4WD, they just don't care until they have a car accident (http://www.chacha.com/topic/car-accident). A hand grenade would set one straight, no doubt about it. I certainly try to give people a talk when they cut me off, or at least make them realize what they have done.

[monkey99]

Not surprising given the way some 2 wheel types cut through there on the shoulder at , and between lanes, at speed.
If we behave disrepectfully of other road users then we reap what we sow.

rant over

Fair point about the shoulder.. but my reference was before the merge area near the Terrace off ramp.

I use the shoulder as well ..but I never exceed the 50 and rarely use it when traffic is in flow... BTW is that illegal? I've seen Plod giving someone a right lecture during peak traffic there once.

Why do i use that shoulder?

Well I used to stay nice n comfy in the lane until this winter when a guy on a GN250, 1 car behind me got jack-n-the-boxed by a dumb fcuk cage driver going to fast into this area with cold brakes...litterally saw him pop up above the car roof behind me as his wee 250 was turned into a Unicycle hood ornament on the BMW from behind him... other cage driver wasn't to impressed either!!

I choose life!

[Banditbandit]

Kick his fucking tail lights, indicators in. When he asks you why - tell him you don't give a shit. :angry:

PS. A spark plug in the pocket is brilliant on windscreens.

A can of shaving cream ... messes up the windscreen something shocking ... but not permenant or irrepairable !

[MarkH]

Yesterday i was in the fastlane of northshore motorway going southbound, sitting on the left wheel track of the cagger infront.

After a while i saw a pair of headlights speeding up towards my tail, i thought he would stop the acceleration and fall behind like normal sane drivers. Instead he slowed down about 1m from my rear wheel

That sounds like the right time to say "fuck this" and lane split well away from that fucktard.

[Swoop]

Whats wose is that he had a baby on board sign on the back. Otherwise i wouldve sped up and kicked the door in.
Surely a "baby on board" should make a normal person drive in a safer manner...? Unfortunately it appears as if kiwi drivers expect to be treated with kid gloves while they do their offensive driving and displaying a "stupid yellow sign".

[Quasievil]

Have to agree a bit here.
I used to have a problem when I was all polite like. Cars/Trucks/Buses didn't give a fuck about me.

I now ride with black jacket, jeans and a matt black helmet. Everyone avoids me as they think I am some kind of drug dealer.
Fuckin weird shit if you ask me

Fuck yeah, me to dres like your going to kill anyone that fucks with you and you will be safer, dress like a nancy boy freak in Hi viz jackets and a pair of personalised Manties (http://www.manties.net/) (link secured from Avgas) then your going to be treated like a pussy and used as crash practice

[mazz1972]

a pair of personalised Manties (http://www.manties.net/)

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

How had I not heard about these before!!!

[Quasievil]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

How had I not heard about these before!!!

Are you serious ??? MAnties are where its at bro !!

[Slyer]

Do you order them from the same place you buy your leathers?

[Quasievil]

Do you order them from the same place you buy your leathers?

Correct but only if the customer is a GPX rider, then thats when its appropriate

[Slyer]

You get an F for comeback effectiveness.

[PrincessBandit]

Personally, I think this is a perfect situation for urinating through his open window. Bonus points if you get him in the eye


I like the way you think! But i might have a bit of trouble with that option!


This might help http://www.shewee.co.nz/

Interesting train of thought, although I'm sure Dush doesn't require a shewee for aim... (besides, they're not as flexible as the "real deal" which means that a bloke could have much more choice of trajectory than us girlies with our trusty shewee).

I dont' think I'd come across as particularly intimidating wearing my nice flowery helmet and baby blue jacket, so somehow I suspect I'd come off second best if decided to go with the confrontation option. Will have to do some research into sneaky woman retaliation moves.

[Bounce001]

Interesting train of thought, although I'm sure Dush doesn't require a shewee for aim... (besides, they're not as flexible as the "real deal" which means that a bloke could have much more choice of trajectory than us girlies with our trusty shewee).

I dont' think I'd come across as particularly intimidating wearing my nice flowery helmet and baby blue jacket, so somehow I suspect I'd come off second best if decided to go with the confrontation option. Will have to do some research into sneaky woman retaliation moves.

Flash your boobs at him. That should give him enough shock to look at you and not where he is going and crash!

[tamarillo]

At the next lights I stop next to him and ask whether he saw me and why he forced me to stop when I had right of way. His response "I saw you mate, I just didnt care".

.

at least they were honest! I kinda like that!

[Mully]

Meh - this kind of thing happens all the time.

In fact, I usually comment to Mrs Mully when the fucktards haven't been out in force.

I do like my stebel in those situations though. A 5 second or so blast seems to get their attention (I didn't realise how loud the bastard is until I went out without earplugs one afternoon)

[White trash]

Some fucktard in a new Territory Turbo threatened that he'd "Run straight over ya next time ya do that" after I split past him at a set of lights on Wednesday night.

What the fuck's with all the anger in the world right now? I've a good mind to climb off the bike and take a big steamer right on the bonnet of his stupid fuckin 4WD.

[Deano]

What the fuck's with all the anger in the world right now? I've a good mind to climb off the bike and take a big steamer right on the bonnet of his stupid fuckin 4WD.

Get the rego = address from post office and put dog shit under the door handles.

[Malcolm]

I dont' think I'd come across as particularly intimidating wearing my nice flowery helmet and baby blue jacket, so somehow I suspect I'd come off second best if decided to go with the confrontation option. Will have to do some research into sneaky woman retaliation moves.

See post #21 for my alternative solution

[Malcolm]

Flash your boobs at him. That should give him enough shock to look at you and not where he is going and crash!
Now I like the way you think. More women should flash their boobs in daily life.

[yachtie10]

Now I like the way you think. More women should flash their boobs in daily life.

like the concept

but we would end up with target fixation and we dont want squashed boobs (thats a waste)

[awayatc]

swap your hi vis vest for some sturdy boots..........

being "seen" highly overrated,

as is being "polite".....

[Antonio]

Are you serious ??? MAnties are where its at bro !!

I can't believe this shit, never heard about it before or seen it. Wtf

[Antonio]

I like the way you think! But i might have a bit of trouble with that option!

:) you can have it ready for them in a bottle :D

[Antonio]

Now I like the way you think. More women should flash their boobs in daily life.

If that happens, i m going to be the worst car driver :)

[Quasievil]

I can't believe this shit, never heard about it before or seen it. Wtf

Lots of denial there dude:yes:

[Antonio]

:) someone's talking from experience ey!!!

[PrincessBandit]

See post #21 for my alternative solution

Don't generally carry grenades with me, although maybe a well aimed high octane fart might do the same trick.

Think I'll pass on the shewee suggestion as, if you're not reasonably careful using it you can end up peeing your pants - and I certainly wouldn't want to add to their entertainment by doing that.