MotoGP Aragon

[roogazza]

Track looks great, lots of elevation changes and blind entries.
2nd Practice and by the look of times it's raining ? G.

[DidJit]

Reckon this will be an interesting one if the qualifying results (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Sep/100918c17.htm) are anything to go by...

Wonder what's up with Vale? Perhaps that shoulder is causing him quite a bit more bother than he lets on? Good on De Puniet, Spies and Hayden getting right up there. Hopefully they can get in amongst it in the race. Would love to see a few other names on the podium other than Lorenzo, Stoner and Pedrosa.

[roogazza]

Reckon this will be an interesting one if the qualifying results (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Sep/100918c17.htm) are anything to go by...

Wonder what's up with Vale? Perhaps that shoulder is causing him quite a bit more bother than he lets on? Good on De Puniet, Spies and Hayden getting right up there. Hopefully they can get in amongst it in the race. Would love to see a few other names on the podium other than Lorenzo, Stoner and Pedrosa.

Looks like it's just us Didjit. Sky cocked the qualifying last night but I see a replay is on at 10 till 11am this morn on ch 30.
Vales ok just watch next year. Should be good racing the track is interesting and the weather predicted fine. G.

ps Seems what I heard 3 wks ago has been confirmed, Burgess to Ducati with Rossi.

[denill]

Looks like it's just us Didjit. Sky cocked the qualifying last night but I see a replay is on at 10 till 11am this morn on ch 30.
Vales ok just watch next year. Should be good racing the track is interesting and the weather predicted fine. G.

Qualifying was great. MySKY does the job. Shaping up to be a good race.:niceone:


ps Seems what I heard 3 wks ago has been confirmed, Burgess to Ducati with Rossi.

Where'd you see that Gaz? But hey, it was probably always that way and 'they' didn't want to rock the boat with so much season yet to run.

[denill]

http://www.racers-republic.com/motogp/news/2366/jerry-burgess-will-join-rossi-at-ducati

[rachprice]

Man that track looks rocking

Good to see Stoner doing what he is capable of!

Lets hope it will be more battles and less one guy out the front

[roogazza]

Qualifying was great. MySKY does the job. Shaping up to be a good race.:niceone:

Where'd you see that Gaz? But hey, it was probably always that way and 'they' didn't want to rock the boat with so much season yet to run.

Mysky huh, have to get me one of those, recorded, will watch this avo.
I have an aussie mate, seems to have close links, maybe even Burgess? If I knew how to post links I could pass them on, but I'm a bit thick. G.

[Biggles08]

Was fantastic to see Casey Stoner own the track again....pulled out a blinder lap in the last five minutes to be the only rider to break well into the 48's! More important though overall he was one of the most consistent faster riders on this new unknown track.

Whats changed for him?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bike setup I'd say.

[nsrpaul]

new weight distribution by the sounds of it

[pritch]

Was fantastic to see Casey Stoner own the track again....

Whats changed for him?

I find myself in the unusual position of wanting Stoner to do well. Ducati have done something with the front end. Whether it's just a set up thing or a new front end we'll have to wait and see. If Stoner wins we may hear about it.

Not sure, but I thought I heard the commentators say that there wouldn't be any post race interviews because the facility for that wasn't ready yet?

The most visually interesting thing about the new track is that brick wall. Amazing!

[Sensei]

Rossi gave them a new set up from his testing of the 2011 model that he road afew weeks back .

[denill]

It was great to see the (frenetic) Moto2 Qualifying. Elias will have his work cut out. Will be interesting to see how he goes - but he's certainly ridden maturely this year. Seems the word is he'll be back with the big boys in '11. Terrific! :niceone:

[Biggles08]

Rossi gave them a new set up from his testing of the 2011 model that he road afew weeks back .

I don't think that was the reason Casey is fast though...Rossi seemed to struggle here.

[pritch]

http://www.racers-republic.com/motogp/news/2366/jerry-burgess-will-join-rossi-at-ducati

[wysper]

Whats changed for him?

Just to be an ass - maybe he stopped whining and concentrated on racing instead.

[Biggles08]

Just to be an ass - maybe he stopped whining and concentrated on racing instead.
maybe...or maybe he has had good reason to whine about things. He's a definite talent and it has been a long time between pole position for him this year...somethings surely changed. For a while when he did just "concentrate on racing" he pushed beyond the bike or himself could go and started falling off. Hardly confidence inspiring to go harder.

[Tony.OK]

maybe he has had good reason to whine about things.

Nah.......he's just a knob who sulks when he doesn't get the glory:bleh:

I'm hoping Pedrosa will take it, the boy's on fire, personality or not:niceone:

[wysper]

maybe...or maybe he has had good reason to whine about things. He's a definite talent and it has been a long time between pole position for him this year...somethings surely changed. For a while when he did just "concentrate on racing" he pushed beyond the bike or himself could go and started falling off. Hardly confidence inspiring to go harder.

You could be right there. For some reason, I just don't like the guy. Something about him just rubs me the wrong way. And it isn't that he is an Aussie.

[Biggles08]

And it isn't that he is an Aussie. And that alone is plenty of reason!:eek:

[Biggles08]

Nah.......he's just a knob who sulks when he doesn't get the glory:bleh:
Na bro...thats me!


I'm hoping Pedrosa will take it, the boy's on fire, personality or not:niceone:
I'm hoping Casey pulls it out of the bag for a change. My picks are:

Stoner
Lorenzo
Pedrosa
Rossi
Spies

[Wingnut]

Pedro
Whore Gay
K C Stoner
Benjamin
The Doc

:niceone:

[rachprice]

You cant deny when stoner is on, he is a fucking weapon

At least the dude says what he thinks/feels instead of playing up to the media

[Wingnut]

Actually I keep forgetting about Dovi. He may be in there somewhere also. He's so easy to forget....

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nah.......he's just a knob who sulks when he doesn't get the glory:bleh:

I'm hoping Pedrosa will take it, the boy's on fire, personality or not:niceone:

That's odd. You dislike Stoner but like the sulkiest cunt in the field!

[SS90]

You could be right there. For some reason, I just don't like the guy. Something about him just rubs me the wrong way. And it isn't that he is an Aussie.

I hear you on that.... My brother lives in Aussie, and through an insurance provider he was luck enough to be seated very near to Stoner and his wife at a dinner.

It was 2 years ago, after the PI round when he had a few lingering injuries, and needed a massage .

Through the dinner his wife was arranging a massage for him, and he he kept saying "what's the last name" being Aussie and all, there is a large number of Asian immigrants who are massage therapists, and of course many names came back as Asian, to which he replied " na, don't trust 'em" until on the 5th or 6th one came back "smith" (or what ever) and he got her to book them......

Take it as you will, but to me the guy is racist, and it sealed my contempt for him - hey, a champ is a champ, and respect for all his skill, but this story, combined with his "Carl Foggarty big book of excuses" style of professionalism demote my respect of him.

I'm no Lorenzo fan either (could be if he grows up), but I go for Lorenzo over Stoner any day.

I'm actually rooting for Hayden today, and as such....

Hayden
Pedrossa
Lorenzo
Rossi

Stoner DNF
I recon Next year will be the best year since they dumped smokers from the grid.

[rachprice]

Awesome race!

Solid pass from Hayden on Lorenzo!!! He will be stoked

Good on spies for battling hard for his 5th!

Good to see stoner on form again

[Rcktfsh]

Best race for awhile, exciting opening lap then good racing for positions. Another ballsy effort by Bautista to get 8th with a gaggle of riders snapping at his heels.

[DidJit]

... Solid pass from Hayden on Lorenzo!!! ...

Good on that man! :niceone:

[discodan]

Lorenzo looks to have lost his edge again just like when he looked certain of winning the 250 championships.

Ride of the day from Spies, he had no business holding that 5th place from Dovi but was just too stubborn!

[Biggles08]

Lorenzo looks to have lost his edge again just like when he looked certain of winning the 250 championships.

Ride of the day from Spies, he had no business holding that 5th place from Dovi but was just too stubborn!
Nah dude...one race does not entail "losing his edge." That track (unknown too) seemed to favor riders who have had problems being competitive this year...it seems to be a track that helps even out any advantage you may have had to date in your bike setup. Lorenzo is a machine and like him or not...he is a champion deserved of the title he WILL win this year.

[FROSTY]

maybee its my imagination but it looks to me if you make a real hash of on corner youre gonna end up dive bombing guys coming back the other way.

[denill]

Rossi out before end of 2010 MotoGP season?

Valentino Rossi's poor performance in Sunday's Aragon MotoGP may prompt the Italian to withdraw from the 2010 season two rounds early.

After finishing 27 seconds behind race winner Casey Stoner on Sunday, in sixth place and as only the third best Yamaha, the nine time world champion revealed he is considering having an operation on his injured shoulder before the Estoril and Valencia events.

That means he will definitely ride at Motegi, Sepang and Phillip Island, but his results in those successive events will determine if he heads for early surgery or not. If he does it would mean a rather anticlimactic end to his seven-year Yamaha career.

There is still no news on whether Rossi will be allowed by Yamaha to test for Ducati after the Valencia race but, if Rossi senses it won't be allowed, he might feel his next best option is to get back into the best physical form as soon as possible.

[discodan]

Nah dude...one race does not entail "losing his edge." That track (unknown too) seemed to favor riders who have had problems being competitive this year...it seems to be a track that helps even out any advantage you may have had to date in your bike setup. Lorenzo is a machine and like him or not...he is a champion deserved of the title he WILL win this year.

I don't just mean this race but over the last few races he hasn't had 'that little bit extra'. Considering he looked unbeatable not that long ago he has been a bit off lately and it reminds me of when the same thing happened when he was on the 250.

I still think he has the championship in the bag but all it would take is a DNF to really make him sweat!

[denill]

Lorenzo looks to have lost his edge again just like when he looked certain of winning the 250 championships.

C'mon. You are remembered for the Championship you win, not the race you win.
Lorenzo's doing what he needs to do to win the Championship.

Showing maturity - something I never thought he'd achieve. :niceone:

[Badjelly]

Rossi out before end of 2010 MotoGP season?

Also this from Julian Ryder (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Sep/100916rydernotes.htm) at Superbike Planet:

...He isn't laughing about his shoulder though. He had two days of severe pain after Misano and can't raise his right arm through more than 90 degrees now. The problem is the tendon that runs between the humerus and the shoulder blade. When he over-rotated the arm, the tendon was trapped between the bones and abraded. He has been trying to build up the muscle to compensate but it hasn't worked. Rossi may need surgery and will use the next six races as a test. He has to do them, he expects some pain, especially at Motegi which is very righthanded and isn't looking forward to the three races in a row in October.

Yes, I think it is bothering him more than he has been letting on.

[gixerracer]

Nah dude...one race does not entail "losing his edge." That track (unknown too) seemed to favor riders who have had problems being competitive this year...it seems to be a track that helps even out any advantage you may have had to date in your bike setup. Lorenzo is a machine and like him or not...he is a champion deserved of the title he WILL win this year.

still 5 races to go I think lorenzo guna lose it and crash and pedro will win this year:bleh:

[rachprice]

Lorenzo looks to have lost his edge again just like when he looked certain of winning the 250 championships.

Ride of the day from Spies, he had no business holding that 5th place from Dovi but was just too stubborn!

Not the first time Dovi has cracked under pressure, he also had the faster bike but Spies retaliated the moment Dovi made a move!

[tee]

still 5 races to go I think lorenzo guna lose it and crash and pedro will win this year:bleh:

I think the 6 engine rule is going to cause a whole world of hurt for whore-hay...... :cry:

These last five rounds will be worth watching - that midget on his Honda is gonna steal a stack of championship points!!!!

Full credit to Honda though for running a guy that weighs 51kg ......... :eek::eek:

[Badjelly]

I think the 6 engine rule is going to cause a whole world of hurt for whore-hay...... :cry:

Somewhere or other today I read that Gorgeous George was "hoping to receive a new engine" at Motegi. Like he'd sent a letter to Santa @ North Pole and was waiting for the reindeer to bring it.

Perhaps Vale could lend him one.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes, I think it is bothering him more than he has been letting on.

Maybe he is better at making excuses than Stoner and getting away with it rather than being called on it. All the homos here that think Stoner has an excuse book better email Rossi to ask if he's nicked it. The only Yamaha not whiping his Arse is Edwards's

Seems odd that Rossi was going for the podium in his first race back...but has been getting his arse kicked since...all of a sudden his shoulder is worse?

Swap the Latte for a Tui.

[Rcktfsh]

still 5 races to go I think lorenzo guna lose it and crash and pedro will win this year:bleh:

I'm telling Dennis.

[Biggles08]

still 5 races to go I think lorenzo guna lose it and crash and pedro will win this year:bleh:

mmmmm....maybe I should change my mind then...calling Lorenzo to crash out is a big call...but I guess some people have more experience with this topic than others eh? :msn-wink::bleh:

[Badjelly]

Maybe he is better at making excuses than Stoner and getting away with it rather than being called on it. All the homos here that think Stoner has an excuse book better email Rossi to ask if he's nicked it. The only Yamaha not whiping his Arse is Edwards's

Seems odd that Rossi was going for the podium in his first race back...but has been getting his arse kicked since...all of a sudden his shoulder is worse?

Swap the Latte for a Tui.

Rossi has been pretty quiet about his shoulder injury. IIRC at a race before Mugello he said, "The shoulder's fine, we just can't get the set-up right" and Jerry Burgess said, "That's bollocks. The bike set-up is fine, we can see from the telemetry that he's braking earlier."

The shoulder got better for a while, but now it's flared up and got worse again. That's impossible because...?

[Ivan]

Rossi has been pretty quiet about his shoulder injury. IIRC at a race before Mugello he said, "The shoulder's fine, we just can't get the set-up right" and Jerry Burgess said, "That's bollocks. The bike set-up is fine, we can see from the telemetry that he's braking earlier."

The shoulder got better for a while, but now it's flared up and got worse again. That's impossible because...?


Definatly not impossible I have rode on a injury and then its only gotten worse I mean I rode at a motox track the momment I broke my wrist was fine to ride back to the pit area and load my van to go home got to work lifted 50 kgs on it was fine until a few days later plus I know what tendon damage is like I have a stuffed elbow tendons are up the shit big time

[Crasherfromwayback]

The shoulder got better for a while, but now it's flared up and got worse again. That's impossible because...?

Relax mate...I'm just winding up the Rossi fans! There's not many parts of my body I haven't wrecked...so I know how these things can go!

[merv]

Shoulder huh!

Where's Dr Robert when we need him? I thought Ohlins was the cure for any racing problem but now I've been told otherwise http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2010/motogp/aragon/1/6.htm

[denill]

From http://www.mcnews.com.au/

We arrived in Aragon expecting hot weather in the middle of the desert but were quite surprised by the cool conditions. When teams asked how you were, they’d greet you with comforting smiles not the usual laughing and joking ‘what’s up’. I went into the CIP Team box on Saturday and the crew seemed to be slowly picking up their spirits, Gilles Bigot said Tomizawa’s family is grateful for all the support given to them from around the world. They are starting a charity group to bring up young riders in Japan in memory of their son whilst collecting all things people have written about him.

Gilles explained that when the team first got interested in Tomizawa and went to Japan to speak to the team, they never saw him personally or told him about their interest. When the news went out that he would be riding for them in 2009, it was a huge surprise for him and he explained to Gilles how much of a dream it was and still couldn’t believe it. He wanted to come over right away and when he did come to France to stay in Gilles home that first night, they cooked him a Japanese meal. After inspecting it, he looked at Gilles in shock and said ‘But this is Japanese!’ he might have been confused for a second that French ate the same food. He was really excited to eat foreign food and try different things, always.

I went to Casey’s motorhome on Thursday and haven’t felt that nervous in a long while, I had something important to say so I was feeling like you do before playing at an event. I was really surprised when I met him smiling, not because I thought he was an unapproachable person but because he talked to me like a brother from another mother. He is a real Aussie, doesn’t worry about what others think and can stand up for himself. I told him before I left that maybe he shouldn’t get so upset when other riders get in his way when he’s doing a fast lap. He carefully explained to me that, when you are going over 250km/h or have it pinned in 6th gear, everything is very blurry and if someone is just waiting there almost stopped, you see them in the last minute and cannot move out of the way, it is just unbelievably dangerous. It made a lot of sense, especially as he has tried talking to the riders involved to no avail.

He also explained how difficult it was in the past years before he moved to Ducati. What you don’t see is the effort and determination it takes to deal with the other side of racing and I am happy to have met someone so young that can inspire others to take risks and do the things they love if only they believe in themselves too. If you spend all day thinking of the things you love instead of your current reality, you’ll eventually source an idea of how to get there as your awareness grows. And it only depends on your level of concentration which determines how fast you get that inspirational idea. All Casey wanted to do is race and he and his family got through a difficult path to get there because of their unwavering faith in his talent. A lot of riders in Europe who get into GP clearly do not understand the struggle it takes to get here and it is questionable whether they would give up their friends and family to do what they really love like him. When illness took over Casey in 2009, some people didn’t understand or even believe him which hurt and usually when times are tough you see who your real friends are.

I remember when Casey stepped down a class to 125Gp from the 250’s and made it through back up again flying into MotoGp, it gave me hope and courage that things would work out for me too. When I left WSBK to pursue GP, I had to go through doing the Spanish Championship before my team had the confidence to bring me into their Gp Team and I always related this with Casey’s step back years ago. A lot of my best friends laughed at me when I told them I was going over with nothing, knowing nobody, but when my now boss gave me the heads up to come to Barcelona and I had to sleep outside the closed Jerez airport when it was 8 degrees, I felt happy because I then understood that I did all this so I would believe in myself. Sometimes you will have to do things outside of your comfort zone to make a difference in your life. For now, use your imagination and see yourself doing the things you’d love to be doing, I’ve learnt that this is what successful people do and they do it every single day without fail.

With all bikes running Tomizawa’s number 48, it made things more comforting even though he was clearly absent and we missed watching his entertaining riding and special antics. With Feem’s head not quite participating in the Aragon event we had to only take what we could and support him in this stressful period. I’m sure all riders who are thinking of the following year and where they are going is more of a major concern in this period. I dropped Feem off to the airport this morning where he’ll head to Thailand for contract negotiations and some time off so hopefully he’ll come to Japan with his head up ready to lock and load! Fortunately he loves Motegi, Sepang and Phillip Island so it could be a good run if he’s happy. We watched ‘Step Up 3D’ the other day and I couldn’t help but think of Tomizawa pulling out all these moves in that Brno Disco last year, for sure his memories will live on forever.

Well until next time folks I’ll leave you with a quote from Lincoln, “To believe in the things you can see and touch is no belief at all; but to believe in the unseen is a triumph and a blessing.”

Indy Samaraweera

[Hinny]

Full credit to Honda though for running a guy that weighs 51kg ......... :eek::eek:

,,, and who is the second most winning rider in the MotoGP circus.

[denill]

Yamah have jumped out of Vale's bed and really snuggled up with Jorge:

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/Lorenzo+new+Yamaha+deal