New forum for NZ motorcycle racing community

[Biggles08]

www.kiwiracer.co.nz (http://www.kiwiracer.co.nz)

Here's a new forum dedicated to the motorcycle racing community in NZ. It is focused on the issues surrounding racing in NZ and to join the forum's "Racing" section you have to qualify yourself as being directly involved in the scene. We are hoping to gain some traction with this site and become a good place for collective ideas to be shared and discussed without the prying eyes of the general public.

Motorcycle racing in NZ has a lot of growing that can be done and if we as racers have some sort of collective voice we may be able to assist in accelerating this new growth. Who knows where this will lead to but make sure you head along and sign up to be part of it.

Biggles.

[jellywrestler]

whose it for???
there's a piccy of a road racer on there, is that all?

[Biggles08]

whose it for???
there's a piccy of a road racer on there, is that all?
Its for you :niceone:

Its been created by road racers but there are sections for drag racing and MX too...if someone wants extra content just ask the admin and I'm sure they will oblige.

[CHOPPA]

The address looks familiar??

[SS90]

I question the relevance of this...why not just start a group on this site, or perhaps if you are so keen on exclusion you could start a bi monthly spa/sauna weekend retreat for men,:msn-wink:

Either way the relevance to discussing the future of road racing in NZ is nill when you exclude the general public from the dialogue. Logic dictates that the same people who contribute here will (perhaps) contribute there, and, at the same time exclude "other perspectives" from the discussion.

It seems to me like a riders version of MNZ.

[jellywrestler]

www.kiwiracer.co.nz (http://www.kiwiracer.co.nz)

you have to qualify yourself as being directly involved in the scene.

Define Directly Involved please

[Scouse]

Is this QUASI'S NEW SITE?

[White trash]

I too would like to know just what "directly involved" means.

[Wingnut]

Let the Slaying Begin! (KBer Style)

[doc]

As long as the riders don't get bored. Should be ok.

[Shaun]

I believe that Directly involved means, that you are a holder of an MNZ License? WHY? so it makes it a lot more managable to listen to what the RACERS them selves believe need addopting to grow our sport more.

Yes the fans/spectators have valid points also, but imagine how hard it is to siff through all the bollocks posts on here by Johnie NO names, that would tke an incredible anout of hours to do, and most of the comments would be bollocks anyway, from a lot of people that actually have NO idea what it takes to go racing seriously or just for fun.

I could be wrong, but hope NOT

[gixerracer]

I question the relevance of this...why not just start a group on this site, or perhaps if you are so keen on exclusion you could start a bi monthly spa/sauna weekend retreat for men,:msn-wink:

Either way the relevance to discussing the future of road racing in NZ is nill when you exclude the general public from the dialogue. Logic dictates that the same people who contribute here will (perhaps) contribute there, and, at the same time exclude "other perspectives" from the discussion.

It seems to me like a riders version of MNZ.

Because I would say 80% of people on KB all they do is talk about racing and claim to no everything about it but actually dont do it so if they tell all there mates that do race about it then there is the relevance. Simple ya c:niceone:

[Shaun]

Is this QUASI'S NEW SITE?



Yes it is, hope it al goes good for him

[Quasievil]

It seems to me like a riders version of MNZ.

Exactly ;-)




Define Directly Involved please

As in if youre not involved in racing you cant join the racing forums, you can only join the regular forums


Is this QUASI'S NEW SITE?
I funded it


I too would like to know just what "directly involved" means.

As above Mr trashy


Let the Slaying Begin! (KBer Style)

Thats one reason why it was started, KB style = to many plonkers

[Quasievil]

Yes it is, hope it al goes good for him

Someone is looking for a gsx600 exhaust to shaun if you got one.

[Biggles08]

I believe that Directly involved means, that you are a holder of an MNZ License? WHY? so it makes it a lot more managable to listen to what the RACERS them selves believe need addopting to grow our sport more.

Yes the fans/spectators have valid points also, but imagine how hard it is to siff through all the bollocks posts on here by Johnie NO names, that would tke an incredible anout of hours to do, and most of the comments would be bollocks anyway, from a lot of people that actually have NO idea what it takes to go racing seriously or just for fun.

I could be wrong, but hope NOT

I would say your pretty much on the money there Shaun.

[Biggles08]

Define Directly Involved please
I think Quasi has answered you there mr jelly.

[White trash]

Exactly ;-)





As in if youre not involved in racing you cant join the racing forums, you can only join the regular forums


I funded it



As above Mr trashy



Thats one reason why it was started, KB style = to many plonkers

Aha, I see. Buuuut,,,,,,,, you don't race.

[Maido]

www.kiwiracer.co.nz (http://www.kiwiracer.co.nz)

Here's a new forum dedicated to the motorcycle racing community in NZ. It is focused on the issues surrounding racing in NZ and to join the forum's "Racing" section you have to qualify yourself as being directly involved in the scene. We are hoping to gain some traction with this site and become a good place for collective ideas to be shared and discussed without the prying eyes of the general public.

Motorcycle racing in NZ has a lot of growing that can be done and if we as racers have some sort of collective voice we may be able to assist in accelerating this new growth. Who knows where this will lead to but make sure you head along and sign up to be part of it.

Biggles.

I just signed up but didn't have to "qualify myself". If the point is to only allow racers and not the public how do you mean to do this? Not nit picking, but trying to work out how Kiwiracer is different from the racer section on kiwibiker.

[Biggles08]

Aha, I see. Buuuut,,,,,,,, you don't race.

The easiest way for people to prove they are involved in racing is with a MNZ license...
thats all, you are still able to participate in the Racers Forum if you can somehow substantiate your "direct involvement" in the sport another way. The purpose of the forum / website is for the racing community all encompassing. There will be distributors involved in discussions on this site too as they often fund racers so by the aforementioned criteria ARE directly involved in the sport. Basically we are trying to filter out BS contributions by people who have no stake in our sport. We want to hear opinions of those who have some personal commitment to motorcycle racing and be a place where discussions can be relied upon as a "snap shot" of how we as racers feel about certain issues.

[Biggles08]

I just signed up but didn't have to "qualify myself". If the point is to only allow racers and not the public how do you mean to do this? Not nit picking, but trying to work out how Kiwiracer is different from the racer section on kiwibiker.
At this point in time it is open to make for quick registration and for people to see all the sections availiable so far. Soon you will need to have a password to see the racing section and you will need to apply for that password. The general section will still be availiable to everyone for good tho

[Quasievil]

Aha, I see. Buuuut,,,,,,,, you don't race.

FUCK YOU lol, yeah nah im not allowed in there, im black to

[SS90]

Hm,

Odd ploy.

So the director of this new site, wants to have ONLY racers contribute to a forum.... Sounds odd, given that the general public are the ones that you all want to come to the meetings, and it seems that an open forum is the best way to reach them ( perhaps we could get a few volunteers to go door knocking for a survey)

Plonkers or not, there are valid reasons for including the general public in open forum discussion.

It is things like this ( having secret little discussions) that cement the idea in peoples mind that bike racers are nothing but egoistic knob jockies.

How does this convince people to come and watch, let alone part with their hard earned?

Do members get a PDF explaining the secret handshake, along with a Directors cut of "Brokeback Mountain" and a 2011 Honda Sales brochure?

Elitism got the sport where it is today, this just pushes it further.

[Quasievil]

lol, I think youre going to far with it really.
:msn-wink:

[SS90]

I believe that Directly involved means, that you are a holder of an MNZ License? WHY? so it makes it a lot more managable to listen to what the RACERS them selves believe need addopting to grow our sport more.

Yes the fans/spectators have valid points also, but imagine how hard it is to siff through all the bollocks posts on here by Johnie NO names, that would tke an incredible anout of hours to do, and most of the comments would be bollocks anyway, from a lot of people that actually have NO idea what it takes to go racing seriously or just for fun.

I could be wrong, but hope NOT

Shaun, you cast a big shadow in the riders arena when it comes to bike racing in NZ, and, more power to you for it.

But I am alarmed that you champion this idea, as I understand it many non competitors supported you after your IOM accident, I thought you would encourage the or input.

[Biggles08]

Hm,

Odd ploy.

So the director of this new site, wants to have ONLY racers contribute to a forum.... Sounds odd, given that the general public are the ones that you all want to come to the meetings, and it seems that an open forum is the best way to reach them ( perhaps we could get a few volunteers to go door knocking for a survey)

Plonkers or not, there are valid reasons for including the general public in open forum discussion.

It is things like this ( having secret little discussions) that cement the idea in peoples mind that bike racers are nothing but egoistic knob jockies.

How does this convince people to come and watch, let alone part with their hard earned?

Do members get a PDF explaining the secret handshake, along with a Directors cut of "Brokeback Mountain" and a 2011 Honda Sales brochure?

Elitism got the sport where it is today, this just pushes it further.

You have completely missed the point of this forum SS90...its not designed to do any of what you have said. It is a place to discuss issues that ONLY relate to racers. A place where the general public do not have any concern with. Sites like KB here are great ways for anyone to voice their opinion on anyone or anything but it is also limited too. Many racers are too scared to say what they really want to because twats on public forums are there ready to pounce on people for standing out...just for standing out!?

You are correct with all your points above but have missed THE point of this forum...it is not designed to be a public forum...it is designed to discuss the mechanics of racing without the peripheral of other issues that can be highlighted on forums such as KB.

[Reckless]

Well I for one am going to miss the interaction and the updates in the racing forum on here, if you all bugger off! Even the political stuff. It will for me take racing further away. You never know someone who has not been involved in Bike racing may still have some valid input. I did 48 Kart meetings in one year with my boy incl nationals (in Sth Island), NI's, Blossom etc etc. I don't post, I don't want to meddle in your business when I'm not road racing, but I am doing the odd 2man or T100 non MNZ enduro dirt events. I do read most of the racing threads when they pop up under the new threads list. I would guess there may be a few more like me on KB??
You guys must do what you think best for your sport. I'm just posting a perspective from outside the box here for you guys to contemplate??

[nodrog]

Is the Ducati on the hompage eligible to run in superbikes in New Zealand?

Fanny

[scott411]

You have completely missed the point of this forum SS90...its not designed to do any of what you have said. It is a place to discuss issues that ONLY relate to racers. A place where the general public do not have any concern with. Sites like KB here are great ways for anyone to voice their opinion on anyone or anything but it is also limited too. Many racers are too scared to say what they really want to because twats on public forums are there ready to pounce on people for standing out...just for standing out!?

You are correct with all your points above but have missed THE point of this forum...it is not designed to be a public forum...it is designed to discuss the mechanics of racing without the peripheral of other issues that can be highlighted on forums such as KB.

Marcus, you missed his point, if the racers only have there veiw it missus alot of the stuff you may need to consider, as reckless puts above, alot of poeple read here even if they are not racing,

there are alot of people with valid opinions, from racers, to organisers and club workers, to promotors, to distributors, to dealers who will sponsor and help out as well, i think to close ranks would be a bad idea imo,

[Tony.OK]

Many racers are too scared to say what they really want to because twats on public forums are there ready to pounce on people for standing out...just for standing out!?



Seems to me that plenty of slamming comes from other racers as well Marcus.

I have no plans to race in the near future but still like to keep upto date with whats going on, maybe have the section for viewing only unless "granted permission".

[jellywrestler]

I think Quasi has answered you there mr jelly.

As in if youre not involved in racing you cant join the racing forums, you can only join the regular forums.

Don't think so at all so i'll ask it another way. Define 'involved' I went on there late night and there's a bit asking for MNZ licence number...

[SS90]

You have completely missed the point of this forum SS90...its not designed to do any of what you have said. It is a place to discuss issues that ONLY relate to racers. A place where the general public do not have any concern with. Sites like KB here are great ways for anyone to voice their opinion on anyone or anything but it is also limited too. Many racers are too scared to say what they really want to because twats on public forums are there ready to pounce on people for standing out...just for standing out!?

You are correct with all your points above but have missed THE point of this forum...it is not designed to be a public forum...it is designed to discuss the mechanics of racing without the peripheral of other issues that can be highlighted on forums such as KB.

I don't think I have missed the point really.

I have not raced in NZ for 5 years (only because I live on the other side of the world at the moment), but I still have an experienced opinion, and can remain objective, admittedly I don't often post in this section, but only because so many discussions go no where.

I actually also don't want to "poo poo" your mans club, but, jeeze guys, include the public, what needs to be kept secret.... Is there new evidence that Shaun Harris is not actually a real Ginger, and only dies his hair red "for the ladies"???????

Or do you need to discuss James Smith's love for Wallaby meat and Strawberries? ( a delicacy in Waimate)

[White trash]

The easiest way for people to prove they are involved in racing is with a MNZ license...
thats all, you are still able to participate in the Racers Forum if you can somehow substantiate your "direct involvement" in the sport another way. The purpose of the forum / website is for the racing community all encompassing. There will be distributors involved in discussions on this site too as they often fund racers so by the aforementioned criteria ARE directly involved in the sport. Basically we are trying to filter out BS contributions by people who have no stake in our sport. We want to hear opinions of those who have some personal commitment to motorcycle racing and be a place where discussions can be relied upon as a "snap shot" of how we as racers feel about certain issues.

Hmmmmm, the fundamental flaw you're going to have is that for example I hold an MNZ licence. But I don't race and really dont have direct involvement but can easily verify myself. Second issue I see is this. By your reckoning that general public don't need to be involved with these behind the scenes discussions as it bears no consequence to them, I suggest you'll need to split the forums into classes because Glen Williams has no need to know what goes on in Superbike discussions. Craig has no business in 125GP racing. Jeremy's not going to be involved in F3/Superlite discussions and you need not know what's happening in Streetstock. I think the motivation is sound, but a slippery slope has been stepped on to.


FUCK YOU lol, yeah nah im not allowed in there, im black to

Lol. I'm pleased we're mates because I'm gonna stir the shit outta this pot brother :D

[Quasievil]

OMG............there is no pleasing some people:msn-wink:

[White trash]

As in if youre not involved in racing you cant join the racing forums, you can only join the regular forums.

Don't think so at all so i'll ask it another way. Define 'involved' I went on there late night and there's a bit asking for MNZ licence number...

To add to Spyda's post, choose your words and terms very carefully in your response Marcus....... :)

(This thread is freakin sweet)

[Biggles08]

To add to Spyda's post, choose your words and terms very carefully in your response Marcus....... :)

(This thread is freakin sweet)

LOL...it appears this very thread will end up being EXACTLY why this new forum is a great idea! :msn-wink:

I'm not going to justify the ins and outs of why its been launched...if your keen to get involved, go ahead otherwise you can stay here in KB land (which is a great place don't get me wrong).

[Biggles08]

Seems to me that plenty of slamming comes from other racers as well Marcus.

I have no plans to race in the near future but still like to keep upto date with whats going on, maybe have the section for viewing only unless "granted permission".

Join up Tony....I'm positive you are involved :Police:

[Biggles08]

I don't think I have missed the point really.

I have not raced in NZ for 5 years (only because I live on the other side of the world at the moment), but I still have an experienced opinion, and can remain objective, admittedly I don't often post in this section, but only because so many discussions go no where.

I actually also don't want to "poo poo" your mans club, but, jeeze guys, include the public, what needs to be kept secret.... Is there new evidence that Shaun Harris is not actually a real Ginger, and only dies his hair red "for the ladies"???????

Or do you need to discuss James Smith's love for Wallaby meat and Strawberries? ( a delicacy in Waimate)

fair points ...but it is what it is and the general public will not be granted access to the racing only section...we have KB for that. Maybe you can convince the KR admin that you are involved enough to get access if you really want too. :msn-wink:

[jellywrestler]

so where do all the organisers, mechanics etc fit in?
sounds more like it's one of those 'lodge' things to me.
My point is while there is a bit of dribble here on an open forum most can sift through the good and the bad. People interested in getting into the sport can come in and get responses from those in the know, if they get fed shit it's usually pointed out and they're guided in the right direction.
It's open to everyone it's a scary thing having an 'elite' closed shop.
If you're are going to limit it to MNZ license holders only maybe you should also think of fitting breath testers on computers too, that might limit some of the swahili posted.

[White trash]

If you're are going to limit it to MNZ license holders only maybe you should also think of fitting breath testers on computers too, that might limit some of the swahili posted.

that's just CRAZY talk right there.

[onearmedbandit]

For one I'm pleased to see you all fuck off. Bitching and moaning about this and that, attacking each others view points, name calling. KB will be better off without this immature carry on that does our image no good whatsoever.


Good riddance.



































(pisstake for those that don't know, good luck with your idea, no one knows whether it is the right move or not, but at least it's being tried. I'm for anything that furthers racing in NZ)

[onearmedbandit]

so where do all the organisers, mechanics etc fit in?
sounds more like it's one of those 'lodge' things to me.
My point is while there is a bit of dribble here on an open forum most can sift through the good and the bad. People interested in getting into the sport can come in and get responses from those in the know, if they get fed shit it's usually pointed out and they're guided in the right direction.
It's open to everyone it's a scary thing having an 'elite' closed shop.
If you're are going to limit it to MNZ license holders only maybe you should also think of fitting breath testers on computers too, that might limit some of the swahili posted.

Actually that's a very good point.

[White trash]

For one I'm pleased to see you all fuck off. Bitching and moaning about this and that, attacking each others view points, name calling. KB will be better off without this immature carry on that does our image no good whatsoever.


Good riddance.


What the fuck would you know ya lop-sided wheelie puller?

[suzuki21]

As in if youre not involved in racing you cant join the racing forums, you can only join the regular forums.

Don't think so at all so i'll ask it another way. Define 'involved' I went on there late night and there's a bit asking for MNZ licence number...

Right on Spyda, so what about the ex top level racer's that now run teams? Riders have no rights in a team - they are like apprentices.

[onearmedbandit]

What the fuck would you know ya lop-sided wheelie puller?

I don't know mate, but there must be something in it though, I haven't crashed any of my wheelies.

[Quasievil]

so where do all the organisers, mechanics etc fit in?

In the racer forums as well as the general KR forums. Copy n paste from the front page of KR
WELCOME TO KIWIRACER.CO.NZ



GENERAL FORUMS

General forums are open to anyone to join and be part of.
there are many forums from bike related to general discussion so please fee free to get involved.


RACE FORUM ACCESS

Hi all, part of this site is designed specifically for Racers, this is an area where racers that hold MNZ licenses or team managers or suitable organizations can openly discuss all subjects relating to Bike racing.

IT is important to note that you HAVE TO APPLY to get in access, this however is not hard click here to contact KR Admin and ask for access, you will need to have some Race info, my laps link, MNZ licence or details to qualify yourself.
Once you do this we will add you to the exclusive KIWIRACER user group.
any questions just ask

Cheers

Admin


My point is while there is a bit of dribble here on an open forum most can sift through the good and the bad.

a bit?
Im not sure why people (you) are so keen on associating and linking KB (a fine website) to KR. They are two different sites, not linked at all.
Do you have only one brand of Magazine on your coffee table?



People interested in getting into the sport can come in and get responses from those in the know, if they get fed shit it's usually pointed out and they're guided in the right direction.
Kb will be good in the future for guiding amateurs, kinda like play school........guess thats why Whitetrash hasnt signed up yet:bleh:


it's a scary thing having an 'elite' closed shop.

Really? you think its scary?

If you're are going to limit it to MNZ license holders only maybe you should also think of fitting breath testers on computers too, that might limit some of the swahili posted.

But then people would need two computers, one for KB when they are drunk.....assuming they are cause most of the stuff here reflects a mind altering substance has been ingested or injected........and another puter for other websites


Jelly dont be scared, if you need help Im here for you bro..............come give Uncle Quasi a big cuddle ya crazy lil fella !!:msn-wink:

[Deano]

Why do you need my date of birth to register Bret ?

Do we get a birthday card each year ?

And in the interest of being 'open' and for racers etc only - why haven't you asked for their actual name, rather than a pseudonym ?

[White trash]

Why do you need my date of birth to register Bret ?

Do we get a birthday card each year ?

And in the interest of being 'open' and for racers etc only - why haven't you asked for their actual name, rather than a pseudonym ?

Hey hey hey, I could go and find a thread where you cried your eyes out about so called "Elitest Exclusion" type stuff, and now you wanna join one? Shoe's on the other foot now buddy. Some mate........ *sniff*

[Deano]

Hey hey hey, I could go and find a thread where you cried your eyes out about so called "Elitest Exclusion" type stuff, and now you wanna join one? Shoe's on the other foot now buddy. Some mate........ *sniff*

I think it is quite a different issue from running a Gixxer Smixxer only track day. You must be bored looking for any old wind up eh ? LOL

[Biggles08]

I think it is quite a different issue from running a Gixxer Smixxer only track day. You must be bored looking for any old wind up eh ? LOL
Elite groups????....Gixxer only trackdays would sort of be like a special needs class rather than an "elite" club surely!:bleh:

[onearmedbandit]

Elite groups????....Gixxer only trackdays would sort of be like a special needs class rather than an "elite" club surely!:bleh:

At least it's better than a Honda only day. Can you just imagine the excitement in the pits when someone asks if anyone brought any lube...

[Tony.OK]

At least it's better than a Honda only day. Can you just imagine the excitement in the pits when someone asks if anyone brought any lube...

And you have a pic of a Honda as your avatar?:bleh:

[Quasievil]

Why do you need my date of birth to register Bret ?

Do we get a birthday card each year ?

And in the interest of being 'open' and for racers etc only - why haven't you asked for their actual name, rather than a pseudonym ?

Is it essential? I cant remember setting it up to be a required field, I can change that for you as I know youre a bit sensitive ya old fucker, but if you put your age I can send you a birthday card and a box of piss......if it makes you happy bro

mmmmm actual names eh? shit who would register, I mean if you had a wanky name like um........Jimmy Mair, would you register ? no.......I rest my case!
:msn-wink:

[onearmedbandit]

And you have a pic of a Honda as your avatar?:bleh:

It's my girlfriends. :bleh:

[White trash]

mmmmm actual names eh? shit who would register, I mean if you had a wanky name like um........Jimmy Mair, would you register ? no.......I rest my case!
:msn-wink:

Dunno who would register that name. What a cock.

Actually, I figured that after Shauns comment on "Johnny no-names" I thought why fucken not? If you're gonna stir shit, more props to ya doin' it under your real name :)

[Shaun]

This thread alone has proven the benifit to the RACERS thread on the other site.

The point to it is, to have racers and Team members putting forward there thoughts on how they want to spend there money to get there rocks off, and to entertain the crowd.

How the FUCK could anyone edit all the shit that gets posted on here willy nilly by a bunch of NO names.

The RACERS forum on kiwiracer, will make ALL RIDERS and TEAM members accoutable for what they Type, it will make all the input -constructive and managable in tuerms of being able to coalate it all

ie for the morons

verb (used with object), -lat·ed, -lat·ing.
1. to gather or arrange in their proper sequence (the pages of a report, the sheets of a book, the pages of several sets of copies, etc.).

SO stop ya whinging and try some thing different for the future, or keep ya faces up ya arses untill racing dies 100% in this country.

In terms of CRAP talk that goes on here in the racing forum, ME and GIXXER will not depart from here,hahahahaha sorry to say

[Shaun]

Dunno who would register that name. What a cock.

Actually, I figured that after Shauns comment on "Johnny no-names" I thought why fucken not? If you're gonna stir shit, more props to ya doin' it under your real name :)



Fuck at last. a man that still has some of his DNA left

[Ronin]

Dunno who would register that name. What a cock.

Actually, I figured that after Shauns comment on "Johnny no-names" I thought why fucken not? If you're gonna stir shit, more props to ya doin' it under your real name :)

Wonder If the 1tonne user name is gone?....

[Biggles08]

Wonder If the 1tonne user name is gone?....
hehe...well 1tonne is welcome to join as they have vested interest in the industry. They sponsor some racers so of course they can have their say :msn-wink:

[White trash]

Here's a very real pothole I can foresee.

Racer or heavily involved individual joins or applys to join. His oppinions are not popular with most other racers or in fact the admins and mods.

What's to stop him being booted?

[Shaun]

wow, this is getting really pathetic now

[Quasievil]

Here's a very real pothole I can foresee.

Racer or heavily involved individual joins or applys to join. His oppinions are not popular with most other racers or in fact the admins and mods.

What's to stop him being booted?

Like who

of more importance how are we going to protect the site from the demise of civilization in 2012 with the solar flares ?

[White trash]

wow, this is getting really pathetic now

Don't think so mate. Unpopular people get booted all the time, but on a resource site such as what's been set up it can't be allowed to happen, regadless of how unpopular they might be.

[White trash]

Like who

of more importance how are we going to protect the site from the demise of civilization in 2012 with the solar flares ?

Obviously someone we haven't met yet coz we know you get on with everybody ;)

[Biggles08]

Don't think so mate. Unpopular people get booted all the time, but on a resource site such as what's been set up it can't be allowed to happen, regadless of how unpopular they might be.

I agree and it won't happen mr Trash. Everyone has seen and read another thread on this wonderful site of KB in which I have had 'words' about a situation surrounding Shaun Harris... but as you can see, he has been one of the first to sign up to Kiwi Racer as he too sees the benefit in having a forum FOR the racers and those directly involved. People will only get banned for being abusive continually or posting inappropriate material for the forum....or if you log a user name Jimmy Mair :bleh:

[jellywrestler]

Fuck at last. a man that still has some of his DNA left
I thought DNA stood for National Association of Dyslexics???/

[FROSTY]

Hmm--HAVE a Shaun Harris built racebike sitting on my bench. Have done one shakedown trackday this year. Havent renewed race licence since 07. Probably won't untill later this year. Guess I don't qualify then.

[Biggles08]

Hmm--HAVE a Shaun Harris built racebike sitting on my bench. Have done one shakedown trackday this year. Havent renewed race licence since 07. Probably won't untill later this year. Guess I don't qualify then.
Get yer MNZ License Frosty and volla :msn-wink:

[Deano]

Hey I'm not dissing the idea.

But I am sometimesreluctant to put too much personal detail out there into cyberspace hence why do you need a D.O.B ? - it is a required field too. Can you make it optional ?

If you want real opinions/feedback/discussion, I would have thought real names would help to cut out some of the BS.

[FROSTY]

Get yer MNZ License Frosty and volla :msn-wink:
WHY?? I might not be the guy riding the bike. I might just be team manager/mechanic for the young fulla .

[Biggles08]

WHY?? I might not be the guy riding the bike. I might just be team manager/mechanic for the young fulla . If that is the case Frosty and you can provide sufficient evidence to back it up then you will qualify to join...have you read the opening statement that Quasi has quoted earlier in the thread here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/128779-New-forum-for-NZ-motorcycle-racing-community?p=1129865236#post1129865236)?

[Quasievil]

Hey I'm not dissing the idea.

But I am sometimesreluctant to put too much personal detail out there into cyberspace hence why do you need a D.O.B ? - it is a required field too. Can you make it optional ?

If you want real opinions/feedback/discussion, I would have thought real names would help to cut out some of the BS.

The Date of Birth is optional, you dont have to add it if you dont want to.

Your probably right but with names, put in whatever you like real or a Alias, how will we know anyway if its a real name or not?

help ?

[Quasievil]

WHY?? I might not be the guy riding the bike. I might just be team manager/mechanic for the young fulla .

Youre stirrer, you think we / I dont know youre a racer .............sheesh its not a application for a mortgage bro

[Ivan]

sorry if this is a stupid comment but how do I find the racing page to add my MNZ number?

[Biggles08]

sorry if this is a stupid comment but how do I find the racing page to add my MNZ number?
Well Mr "Is a mega cool guy and I want" have you signed up to kiwiracer yet? If so, can you see the race only forums? If so...then you have no need to provide any number as we know you are a racer and should be allowed :yes:

You only need to provide your MNZ license # if you are asked by the admin to gain access to the 'racer only forums' apart from that your good to go!

[Quasievil]

sorry if this is a stupid comment but how do I find the racing page to add my MNZ number?

Go to the www.kiwiracer.co.nz homepage and under the welcome screen under racer forum access "click here" and ask to be added.

[PirateJafa]

You have completely missed the point of this forum SS90...its not designed to do any of what you have said. It is a place to discuss issues that ONLY relate to racers. A place where the general public do not have any concern with. Sites like KB here are great ways for anyone to voice their opinion on anyone or anything but it is also limited too. Many racers are too scared to say what they really want to because twats on public forums are there ready to pounce on people for standing out...just for standing out!?

You are correct with all your points above but have missed THE point of this forum...it is not designed to be a public forum...it is designed to discuss the mechanics of racing without the peripheral of other issues that can be highlighted on forums such as KB.


Hmmmmm, the fundamental flaw you're going to have is that for example I hold an MNZ licence. But I don't race and really dont have direct involvement but can easily verify myself. Second issue I see is this. By your reckoning that general public don't need to be involved with these behind the scenes discussions as it bears no consequence to them, I suggest you'll need to split the forums into classes because Glen Williams has no need to know what goes on in Superbike discussions. Craig has no business in 125GP racing. Jeremy's not going to be involved in F3/Superlite discussions and you need not know what's happening in Streetstock. I think the motivation is sound, but a slippery slope has been stepped on to.

You're quite right Mr Trash. I mean hell, I'm slowly building together a Formula 3/Post-Classic Pre-89 racebike, and have picked up a hell of a lot of useful information from this open forum.

So it's a pity that I will, as a mere "prospective" racer, be unable to see this sort of useful stuff, if this exclusive circle-jerking site actually gets off the ground. But judging by the track records of the last few of these sites, I doubt we need to overly worry.

[Shaun]

I agree and it won't happen mr Trash. Everyone has seen and read another thread on this wonderful site of KB in which I have had 'words' about a situation surrounding Shaun Harris... but as you can see, he has been one of the first to sign up to Kiwi Racer as he too sees the benefit in having a forum FOR the racers and those directly involved. People will only get banned for being abusive continually or posting inappropriate material for the forum....or if you log a user name Jimmy Mair :bleh:


Politics and bull shit will not get in the way of trying to encourage the groth of our sport mate, apart from that, life has changed since those days, one day, we might even sit down and have a brew together:niceone:

[Robert Taylor]

Thanks Biggles for the invite, have just this moment registered

[Biggles08]

Politics and bull shit will not get in the way of trying to encourage the groth of our sport mate, apart from that, life has changed since those days, one day, we might even sit down and have a brew together:niceone:
Only if your buying :drinknsin

[lostinflyz]

If you have blond hair you may join, blue eyes come on through..... your of the right type. Long nosed people with funny last names and little hats you need not apply.


Anyway this site may be full of wankers posting continuous drivel, but how long before the new site is full of the same wankers posting the same continuous drivel, i think were already too late. i'm sure before the weeks out there will already be 10 threads about craig sherriffs sexual preference.

[SWERVE]

Signed up yesterday............anything that helps racers (and relevent associates) gain anything to help our cause and share info is good by me............... so much can be achieved if we actually put aside our personal differences and remember while we all subscribe to the same site.
If people chose to BS then it doesn,t take long for their true colours to shine thru and for people to take them with a "pinch of salt"
Not that my opinion counts for much.........only to me!

[Shaun]

Only if your buying :drinknsin

That is actually close to being funny

[DidJit]

You're quite right Mr Trash. ... have picked up a hell of a lot of useful information from this open forum.

So it's a pity that I will, as a mere "prospective" racer, be unable to see this sort of useful stuff, ...

+1. Hopefully some of you do stay around good ol' KB to entertain and educate us "wannabe"s. We pick up a lot from your discussions on these forums and, yes, we can sift the choice little morsels of information from the bullshit.

[1tonne]

Wonder If the 1tonne user name is gone?....

It was there. I registered as at times I do race plus I do have a vested interest in the sport.

[Shaun]

It was there. I registered as at times I do race plus I do have a vested interest in the sport.



Biggles has said you are welcome there Nathan, and I know you well enough to know that you will not mix buisness agenda with the real agenda of the Racers/team only forum.

Ps, missed you the other day to collect my new suit, will make arrangements soon though, I was running late and could not drop in

[FROSTY]

Youre stirrer, you think we / I dont know youre a racer .............sheesh its not a application for a mortgage bro
hehehehehee--aww comeon mate biggles is biting so darned well

[cowpoos]

I haven't crashed any of my wheelies.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooohhhhhhhhhh!!!! Feel the heat....see the flame.....that was a BURN!!!

[PirateJafa]

+1. Hopefully some of you do stay around good ol' KB to entertain and educate us "wannabe"s. We pick up a lot from your discussions on these forums and, yes, we can sift the choice little morsels of information from the bullshit.

Bad luck Didjit, gess they're not interested in gaining new members to the sport. :tugger:

[CHOPPA]

Bad luck Didjit, gess they're not interested in gaining new members to the sport. :tugger:

Its funny, I started the sport way before joining a forum. Guess I got it backwards

[Shaun]

Its funny, I started the sport way before joining a forum. Guess I got it backwards


me too, but only because I am an old fucker and the net did not exist then

[PirateJafa]

Its funny, I started the sport way before joining a forum. Guess I got it backwards

Guides like Frosty has put up in the past, on what has to be wired tight, like sump plugs etc, and what can't be used in your radiators etc are most informative for us "wannabes" putting machines together as the budget allows.

Hell, I wouldn't even know what MNZ was or what it stands for if not for KB.

[DMNTD]

Guides like Frosty has put up in the past, on what has to be wired tight, like sump plugs etc, and what can't be used in your radiators etc are most informative for us "wannabes" putting machines together as the budget allows.

Hell, I wouldn't even know what MNZ was or what it stands for if not for KB.

Agreed...some of us mere mortals who haven't been around racing have found bits 'n pieces of info on KB bloody helpful.
Would be a pity if the 'potentials' missed out on what could be an even more valuable resource.

[Quasievil]

What a pack of whining KB bitches
Who Said KB has stopped being an active forum available to whoever wants to read stuff...........no body, if you dont like it dont fucking join it :niceone:

[Biggles08]

Nobody is closing down KB FFS?!? This forum is going to continue as per normal...with all the BS and good shit. Shall we ban any other motorcycling site based in NZ then?

KB is what it is...kiwiracer.co.nz was created because some of us involved heavily in the game needed more than KB...its not an "us or them" mentality, its a tool that we thought would be useful to grow the sport...be happy that we are actually trying to do something positive for racing in NZ!:calm:

[jellywrestler]

Its funny, I started the sport way before joining a forum. Guess I got it backwards
yeah and in my day a forum was what you had in the glove-box for passing a round on the trip home from the track, usually via the awahuri

[SS90]

What a pack of whining KB bitches
Who Said KB has stopped being an active forum available to whoever wants to read stuff...........no body, if you dont like it dont fucking join it :niceone:

That sort of statement is counter productive there Mr Quasi.

I have learned that forums are another world when it comes to diplomacy and so on, but the idea of excluding the public seems also counterproductive to me (it would seem others as well)

The world has moved on since Shaun Harris fibbed his way onto a test ride of a 250gp in Japan.... (crashing some 3 laps later if I remember correctly) and now the resources exist for anyone, anywhere, any time to check any number of facts, and to remove the ability for the general public to keep up to date with not only rule changes, but also proposals from riders is a step backwards.

I was dismayed when Shaun posted something about "Johnny no names" contributing to forums about racing matters.... WTF?...... Come on guys, I struggle to accept that you cannot realise that the "Johnny no names" are the guys we need to enourage to come to the events, as paying spectators, bringing their kids (who see the racing, and aspire to be one themselves......)

Is it is such a basic phylosophy that we are missing it?

The world has changed, and it would be wise to use it to your advantage, otherwise you have a chance of having a great organized race structure, but no one wants to come see your conceited asses.

[Quasievil]

That sort of statement is counter productive there Mr Quasi.

I have learned that forums are another world when it comes to diplomacy and so on, but the idea of excluding the public seems also counterproductive to me (it would seem others as well)

The world has changed, and it would be wise to use it to your advantage, otherwise you have a chance of having a great organized race structure, but no one wants to come see your conceited asses.

Thanks for the advise SS90

Some of the flavors thrown at us in this thread are kind of remarkable.

We are happy how we have set up the site so far as are the 100 + members, we may change it, we may not.

[Luckylegs]

And if I see you pricks all together at the pub discussing racing without me then look out. FFS, what's the difference, fack they could discuss things by email without "us" (non racers) and we'd be none the wiser, the forum just makes it easier...

[ellipsis]

....problem with the register bit...cant get in to see any of the site...??

[Shaun]

That sort of statement is counter productive there Mr Quasi.

I have learned that forums are another world when it comes to diplomacy and so on, but the idea of excluding the public seems also counterproductive to me (it would seem others as well)

The world has moved on since Shaun Harris fibbed his way onto a test ride of a 250gp in Japan.... (crashing some 3 laps later if I remember correctly) and now the resources exist for anyone, anywhere, any time to check any number of facts, and to remove the ability for the general public to keep up to date with not only rule changes, but also proposals from riders is a step backwards.

I was dismayed when Shaun posted something about "Johnny no names" contributing to forums about racing matters.... WTF?...... Come on guys, I struggle to accept that you cannot realise that the "Johnny no names" are the guys we need to enourage to come to the events, as paying spectators, bringing their kids (who see the racing, and aspire to be one themselves......)

Is it is such a basic phylosophy that we are missing it?

The world has changed, and it would be wise to use it to your advantage, otherwise you have a chance of having a great organized race structure, but no one wants to come see your conceited asses.


SS90, the point I was trying to make about " Johnie NO names" was/is, all thoughts/idea's need to be coalated to help create and manage the rules for racing, how do you/we/us do this for free in a professional manner?

As far as the RACERS ONLY forum goes on kiwibiker, I wanted it be for RACERS only, NO buisness names, No false names, why, so all could be managed and made accountable for what they have said. I have also asked for that Forum to be opened up, so that anyone can read it, but NOT post in it unless you hold a race license, so the future want to be racers can see what the current crop think and are dealing with within our sport.

So there is NO hidden agenda to what has been started over there, it seems to me that a couple of people have put there money where there mouth is, and are genuinely trying to do some thing with our racing, just read through the VIC club WET series thread on here and see what has been said, it really is not fear nor ethical a lot of stuff that gets posted by " JOHNIE NO NAMES"

Yes I am a loud outspoken person, but anyone the knows me genuinely, knows there is no one with any more passion/commitment to our sport alive on earth, and if that comes across as a big head, so be it, as I am only little, and need to make myself feal big some times

[sugilite]

Wow, cool site, who is the kiwi racer in the photo on the homepage? :doh:

[Deano]

The Date of Birth is optional, you dont have to add it if you dont want to.



I can't get past the first screen cause it keeps wanting my DOB ?????

[Biggles08]

I can't get past the first screen cause it keeps wanting my DOB ?????

hmmmm....I'll pass that on to the Admin Deano...it should be optional.

[Quasievil]

I can't get past the first screen cause it keeps wanting my DOB ?????

Hi Deano, the site does not require this, it is optional. Thats what the settings are set at.
If it wont let you register without it let me know, but this shouldnt be the case as many dont enter into this feild

[onearmedbandit]

I registered yesterday and it required it Brett.

[slowpoke]

yeah and in my day a forum was what you had in the glove-box for passing a round on the trip home from the track, usually via the awahuri

Aha! So that's why they were that dinky lil' size.......makes perfect sense now.

[wharfy]

Agreed...some of us mere mortals who haven't been around racing have found bits 'n pieces of info on KB bloody helpful.
Would be a pity if the 'potentials' missed out on what could be an even more valuable resource.

I'm pretty sure it's not either or.
I don't intend quitting KB race forums just because I joined KR (I assume its OK to call it KR :) )
I just hope the signal to noise ratio will be higher on KR

[yorkshire raceramesh]

Well, I've taken the plunge and joined kiwiracer. Just applied to get access to racer section. Not got licence yet (way too early) put up a compelling case so will see what happens. I want to get a group going (unless 1 is already there) for sidecars away from the non sidecar fraternity.
I'm trying to get as much feedback and opinions as I can so WILL start a thread on here as well.

[Kickaha]

I want to get a group going (unless 1 is already there) for sidecars away from the non sidecar fraternity.
I'm trying to get as much feedback and opinions as I can so WILL start a thread on here as well.

There already is a Sidecar specific sub forum on there

[SS90]

There already is a Sidecar specific sub forum on there

Yes, but it seems this chap wants a forum AWAY from non sidecar types........ I still believe such attitudes are treading on dangerous waters.........

There is only 4 million people in NZ, and if even 1% of the population gave a rats arse about racing (that is an extra high estimate) then thats only 40,000 people who care, and doing anything to alienate them is foolish.

actually its way way waaaaay less than that!

In reality there is something like 1000 active users on this site.

Perhaps we should have a site for suspension too, and another for clutches?

That should draw a membership of say, 11 people NZ wide.

That will pay for the bandwidth, no doubt.

I'm just sayin' is all..................

[Grumph]

If as I suspect Kiwiracer goes the same way as previous sites and becomes the place to vent against officials personally and officialdom generally then I want a site where volounteer officials, volounteer marshals and people who put their time and money into the sport can vent about ungrateful riders....

MNZ has the life members to add some experience and wisdom to the system.
Limiting any site to only those involved in the current scene is shortsighted.

[Billy]

If as I suspect Kiwiracer goes the same way as previous sites and becomes the place to vent against officials personally and officialdom generally then I want a site where volounteer officials, volounteer marshals and people who put their time and money into the sport can vent about ungrateful riders....

MNZ has the life members to add some experience and wisdom to the system.
Limiting any site to only those involved in the current scene is shortsighted.

Yip,Very well said and aint it funny its always the experts that know everything there is to know after being involved in the sport for a very small amount of time,That dont actually want to be actively involved in the administration,Its Soooo much easier to pick holes in everybody elses efforts.

[Quasievil]

God some of you can talk a load of self righteous Bullshit.
get a grip people ffs:yes:

[Quasievil]

Yip,Very well said and aint it funny its always the experts that know everything there is to know after being involved in the sport for a very small amount of time,

And the generalizations on heresay and forum based ramblings start being believed as fact.
Shit Billy, you of all people I would have thought would support a forum for Racers

Anyway, new members everyday and some very notable racers so will leave some of you lot to continue to DISS it...............not that I would expect anything different from here anyway lol

[Billy]

And the generalizations on heresay and forum based ramblings start being believed as fact.

EXACTLY

Shit Billy, you of all people I would have thought would support a forum for Racers

What and who I support are the people that get off their butts and are out there trying to keep the sport running IE the roadrace commission,The MNZ board and office staff,All the officials and support workers (flag marshalls,crash crews etc)that turn out and run the sport no matter how hard it gets or how much flak they have too take when they mess up,These people are the lifeblood of the sport!!

Internet forums on the other hand are for social interaction and keyboard jockey/heroes who for the most part dont actually want to do anything more than rubbish the doers in society.

If you REALLY want to make a difference,Get on a club commitee and EARN some respect

[Biggles08]

If you REALLY want to make a difference,Get on a club commitee and EARN some respect

The problem is Billy, not everyone is gifted in the administration department and if we all did what you are suggesting here all we would be doing is making possibly a bigger mess on motorcycle racing in NZ. I hear what you are saying and I agree that if all we do on Kiwiracer is bitch on about how bad it is for us poor racers then it won't achieve anything, but the simple fact is, its not like that and if I have anything to do with it then it will keep being not like that. In fact, you would be interested to know that there is a thread on KR already suggesting that "we" the racers are to blame for the lack of external input from businesses into our sport.

I think people are determined on here to twist shit into what its not about. Kiwibiker is a great forum to discuss all sorts of things that should and can be aired in public. The simple fact is, some things don't need to be on a public forum. As has already been suggested earlier on in this thread, what if we made up an email list or decided all to meet in a pub to discuss these issues? Should we ban any organized groups who discuss issues that ONLY concern them? Its not another kiwibiker site...its not for people to slander others involved in the running of races etc. If anyone does that they will be put back in line.

I actually hope MNZ officials join Kiwiracer. I hope all the marshalls and club administrators join too (they may not have access to every aspect of the new forum but at least they can see what is going on). They are ALL directly involved in the racing scene so have every right to join Kiwiracer. Actually, thinking about it, don't you think MNZ has meetings they don't invite us to? Should they? Of course not, were not the ones challenged with the management of Motorcycling in NZ, they are and as such they need the freedom and ability to do what needs to be done. Why cant we as a group of racers have that same ability and freedom? I'm really not trying to be facetious here either...or demeaning to you, I'm trying to explain its not about "Them" and "Us" here...its NOT divisive, its not a big middle finger to the rest of people involved in our sport...its just about trying to organize a unified group of racers...that's all.

Sometimes something 'new' is a good catalyst to produce something "better'...its all about how it is managed.

[Quasievil]

If you REALLY want to make a difference,Get on a club commitee and EARN some respect

:facepalm:Cheers for the advice.

[codgyoleracer]

Wow, cool site, who is the kiwi racer in the photo on the homepage? :doh:

Isnt that you in your new leathers ya long streak of weasel piss ?. I suppose at least his home country is close to the land of the long white.........

[Biggles08]

Isnt that you in your new leathers ya long streak of weasel piss ?. I suppose at least his home country is close to the land of the long white.........
yeah...he's from the west Island...where Pavlova and Farlap came from :innocent:

[codgyoleracer]

yeah...he's from the west Island...where Pavlova and Farlap came from :innocent:

Still i suppose its better than the glare we'd get from a photo flash of a bike with anodized levers, rearsets, wheels, valve caps & the like.......... :-)

[sugilite]

Isnt that you in your new leathers ya long streak of weasel piss ?. I suppose at least his home country is close to the land of the long white.........
Now listen here you only slightly shorter long streak of weasel piss, na, it's not me, but the prick is on my bike and I want it back! :angry:

[Deano]

Well the login still requires a date of birth and for the past few weeks of trying now and then to register I keep getting this message

"Sorry, we are unable to register your account at this time."

??????? Whats up with that ?

Quasi ? Biggles ?

[Quasievil]

Well the login still requires a date of birth and for the past few weeks of trying now and then to register I keep getting this message

"Sorry, we are unable to register your account at this time."

??????? Whats up with that ?

Quasi ? Biggles ?

Hey dude

We HAve to have a DOB, it cant be changed, Ive looked into it, the reason is you need to be over 13 years old to join the forum.
You dont have to have your DOB displayed, hell you dont even have to have a real DOB.
you wont be able to join unless you do that hence the message.
If you like I can join you in the Admin and pm your passwords etc?
pm me your email tho ok dude