Warning! De-regoing a bike is now costing money!

[Conquiztador]

In the past, as long as you took in the plates inside a year from when the rego had expired, the outstanding fees were wiped. (I have done that on more than one occasion with bikes and cars).

But not anymore! I walked in yesterday with the plate from a bike that was in my name but that has been off the road almost a year. (I had not put the rego on hold as this bike was never gonna be back on the road as she is stripped for parts) I was not in a hurry to take the plates in as I thought I had a year to do so. To my surprise I was back-charged the rego fee from when the rego expired 11 months ago! Fark!!!

There is no reason for this change IMO. Apart from revenue gathering. Bastards!

So if you have a old bike/car sitting there w/o paid up rego (and you have not put the rego on hold) and you are planning to take the plates in "tomorrow", it is gonna cost ya!

[breakaway]

I thought all outsanding rego fees must be paid before the plates are surrendered? I'm very surprised to hear this is a 'recent' law change.

Lose the sensationlist title mate. De-regoing costs nothing, but if you lack dilligence and just let the rego run out without putting on hold and try to surrender the plates, they will charge you for 'outdated' rego.

[Conquiztador]

I thought all outsanding rego fees must be paid before the plates are surrendered? I'm very surprised to hear this is a 'recent' law change.

Lose the sensationlist title mate. De-regoing costs nothing, but if you lack dilligence and just let the rego run out without putting on hold and try to surrender the plates, they will charge you for 'outdated' rego.

As mentioned, this is a new change. (Well, last time I did this was approx 2 years ago) I have done the "as long as I get the plates to them inside 12 months" before and the outstanding has always been wiped.

[doc]

What happens if you just do nothing ? Use to be that if you failed to register for 2 years, they cancelled the rego.

[Conquiztador]

What happens if you just do nothing ? Use to be that if you failed to register for 2 years, they cancelled the rego.

Now if you do not rego the bike inside 12 months it lapses and you end up with BayCorp (or whatever they are now called) and your credit rating is affected.

[BoristheBiter]

As mentioned, this is a new change. (Well, last time I did this was approx 2 years ago) I have done the "as long as I get the plates to them inside 12 months" before and the outstanding has always been wiped.

I think you have been lucky as you are still liable for all outstanding rego fees unless you have it on hold.

but my question is why do you de-reg so many bikes?

[Smiff-ta]

To my surprise I was back-charged the rego fee from when the rego expired 11 months ago! Fark!!!

There is no reason for this change IMO. Apart from revenue gathering. Bastards!


I guess the reason for the charge is you potentially could have been using this bike on Nz roads for the last 11 months.

I am pretty sure this has been the case for a while.

[Deano]

Write in and state that the vehicle has been off the road and was not used for the past 11 months.

Get a friend or colleague to verify this in writing also.

I did that once to get off no rego tickets isseud by parking wardens once - it might work.

[steve_t]

I'm pretty sure the OP's situation has always been the case. I remember about 5 years ago I accidentally had my car rego lapse and when I got around to registering it, they back dated it. I used to have my rego and warrant due at the same time but this made the WOF and rego askew since the WOF is from the day it's given. I'm pretty sure you actually have to put your rego on hold to stop them backdating it

[Reckless]

I've got a bike on hold! I forgot to re extend the hold and when I remembered to check up on it I got stung with 3 months full rego fees because I didn't extend the hold on time BASTARDS! They send you a reminder to re rego but not to extend a hold, then sting you full fees for the gap!

[Scuba_Steve]

Now if you do not rego the bike inside 12 months it lapses and you end up with BayCorp (or whatever they are now called) and your credit rating is affected.

But not as much as you'd think, the NZTA is filing soo much with baycorp (usually without warning) they're starting to shoot themselves in the foot, if you have good reason quite often the finance (depending on the company) will ignore any filings from NZTA.

[Bounce001]

I've got a bike on hold! I forgot to re extend the hold and when I remembered to check up on it I got stung with 3 months full rego fees because I didn't extend the hold on time BASTARDS! They send you a reminder to re rego but not to extend a hold, then sting you full fees for the gap!

They will send you a reminder to extend a hold. I got one in the mail for my Bonnie last week. It is not a reminder to extend the hold as such, just a reminder that is is due for registration. Whether you put it on hold or register it, it is up to you.

[Subike]

You only get 3 mths from the expiry date to either cancell or place the vehicle on hold, any longer than that and you pay back registration. this has been enforced for at least four years that I know of, as I have had both senarios, of putting the vehicle on hold befor two months, no fee. putting a vehicle on hold after 3 mths, pay back fees.
Easily to forget and is a pain when you do.

[Banditbandit]

Write in and state that the vehicle has been off the road and was not used for the past 11 months.

Get a friend or colleague to verify this in writing also.

I did that once to get off no rego tickets isseud by parking wardens once - it might work.

You were lucky there mate ... if the vehicle was ticketed by a parking warden then clearly it was on the road - with no rego ...

[Scuba_Steve]

You only get 3 mths from the expiry date to either cancell or place the vehicle on hold, any longer than that and you pay back registration. this has been enforced for at least four years that I know of, as I have had both senarios, of putting the vehicle on hold befor two months, no fee. putting a vehicle on hold after 3 mths, pay back fees.
Easily to forget and is a pain when you do.

seems they don't even give you that long anymore I recently put my van on hold 1.5-2mths after licence expiry and they back charged me those 1.5-2 mths.

[Banditbandit]

seems they don't even give you that long anymore I recently put my van on hold 1.5-2mths after licence expiry and they back charged me those 1.5-2 mths.

Yup - you must put it on hold for 3 months MINIMUM. If you try and register it within those three months they back date it ... and if you put it on hold for six months and try and register it in, say, five months .. they back date that too ...

There's no way passed it any more ...

[avgas]

I've got a bike on hold! I forgot to re extend the hold and when I remembered to check up on it I got stung with 3 months full rego fees because I didn't extend the hold on time BASTARDS! They send you a reminder to re rego but not to extend a hold, then sting you full fees for the gap!
This has changed in the last few years.
They now send you a letter a month before your "hold period" ends.
It simply says "You need to re-rego your vehicle"
I have one sitting on my desk right now for the SRX (has been on hold for about 1 year).
So I suggest you get your rego'd address.

[Scuba_Steve]

Yup - you must put it on hold for 3 months MINIMUM. If you try and register it within those three months they back date it ... and if you put it on hold for six months and try and register it in, say, five months .. they back date that too ...

There's no way passed it any more ...

No I didn't register it,k I put it on hold after 2 months of rego expiring & they back dated those 2 months before giving me the exemption

[Deano]

You were lucky there mate ... if the vehicle was ticketed by a parking warden then clearly it was on the road - with no rego ...

Yeah I was - it was the Council that advised me to write in about it.

Another factor may have been that it was parked over our own berm access to a garage.

[FROSTY]

The law hasn't changed on this front for over 3 years.
The rego either must be up to date or must be on hold or you will be billed for the back rego.
The only way to "avoid" the bill is to do a change of ownership THEN derego the vehicle. The bill for back rego will still go to you but you can either choose to ignore it -then it goes to baycorp or you can wait for the bill you know is coming then pay it at the last minute
--I deal with this stuff every day

[Conquiztador]

The law hasn't changed on this front for over 3 years.
The rego either must be up to date or must be on hold or you will be billed for the back rego.
The only way to "avoid" the bill is to do a change of ownership THEN derego the vehicle. The bill for back rego will still go to you but you can either choose to ignore it -then it goes to baycorp or you can wait for the bill you know is coming then pay it at the last minute
--I deal with this stuff every day

So are you saying that what was in place: "As long as you took in the plates before 12 months of being unpaid license, the fee was waived" disappered 3 years ago? I did this last time approx 2 years ago: I had a bike in my shed that was in my name but off the road (but not "on hold"), so I took in the plates inside the 12 months period and all fees were waived after I gave them the plates.

FROSTY, can you remember that this used to be what was in place in the past? That by taking plates in inside 12 months there was no fee to be paid? As that was what I used to do, and assumed that it was still the case. Apperently not!

[pzkpfw]

Most of this relates to "continuous licensing" which was brought in when I was working at the Motor Registration Centre (P.North.) over ten years ago.

[Banditbandit]

No I didn't register it,k I put it on hold after 2 months of rego expiring & they back dated those 2 months before giving me the exemption

Same thing ... there was a period when it MIGHT have been on the road - from their POV so they charged you for that ...

[Conquiztador]

Most of this relates to "continuous licensing" which was brought in when I was working at the Motor Registration Centre (P.North.) over ten years ago.

Not my original post that relates to handing in the plates.

[pzkpfw]

Not my original post that relates to handing in the plates.

Basically the same thing, which is why I wrote "relates to".

The whole restoration register "on hold" thing was brought in at the same time as continuous licensing.

The whole point being you paid for all the time the vehicle was in use (or might have been in use). You only didn't pay if you'd done something to say you really were not using it, e.g. after putting it on hold, or handing in the plates.


Having said this, I've also gotten away with a late deregistering (a Mark IV Cortina I sold to someonefor $50. he enever de-reg'd, which I should have checked. I got a letter from MRC saying "pay now!" but I got hold of the plates and was able to de-reg without paying anything.)

But I suspect this is a matter of discretionary ability rather than a change of law. Maybe now they are "clamping down" a bit.

[far queue]

... and if you put it on hold for six months and try and register it in, say, five months .. they back date that too ...

There's no way passed it any more ...Unless the rules have changed recently, this is incorrect. For a number of years I've had 2 bikes and always put one on hold over the winter months. I always put it on hold for longer than I need and then re-register early at a date that suits - I've never had the fees back dated on me. The minimum hold period is 3 months however - if you re-register within this time period you will be charged the back amount. This has been the 1st winter in some years that I haven't put anything on hold, so it's possible it's changed on me, but I'd be surprised.

[pritch]

As mentioned, this is a new change. (Well, last time I did this was approx 2 years ago) I have done the "as long as I get the plates to them inside 12 months" before and the outstanding has always been wiped.

I don't think that's new. If my memory serves it's been like that for years.

It's just possible that you've had some "relaxed" treatment in the past but now maybe they're tightening up in the search for extra dollars?

It's just possible that ACC have figured out their budget projections are up the shit, and there's no way in the world they're going to be raking in the millions from all those bikes.

It's just possible somebody has told them about wingnuts?

[NordieBoy]

They will send you a reminder to extend a hold. I got one in the mail for my Bonnie last week. It is not a reminder to extend the hold as such, just a reminder that is is due for registration. Whether you put it on hold or register it, it is up to you.

Sometimes they will send it.
They're not obligated to.

As was explained to me as I forked over for a years reg for a bike that'd been off the road for the last 2 years :(