Radar detector

[SMOKEU]

I have a Beltronics RX65 Pro, and I've had a look at mounting solutions for my CBR250. I'm not prepared to buy one from Radar Direct as they are a rip off, and Trademe doesn't have any. Will it still work properly if I put the detector in the glovebox under the passenger seat?

[nodrog]

What do you think?

Fanny

[slofox]

I have a Beltronics RX65 Pro, and I've had a look at mounting solutions for my CBR250. I'm not prepared to buy one from Radar Direct as they are a rip off, and Trademe doesn't have any. Will it still work properly if I put the detector in the glovebox under the passenger seat?

I got a mounting system from Ram Solutions. Always had good service from them.

[SMOKEU]

What do you think?

Fanny

I don't know, what do you think?

[imdying]

Yeah it'll still work, how much the performance will reduce, I can't say. Any receiver works best if the LOS from the transmitter is clear.

[slofox]

Yeah it'll still work, how much the performance will reduce, I can't say. Any receiver works best if the LOS from the transmitter is clear.

If it does laser band it needs LOS to work...

[SMOKEU]

Yeah it'll still work, how much the performance will reduce, I can't say. Any receiver works best if the LOS from the transmitter is clear.

I'll buy myself a cigarette lighter socket, I'll put it in the glovebox with my radar detector and test if the performance is acceptable.
I'll try and find one of those 'false radar' things that set the detectors off on the Ka band. I think they have one on SH1 between Belfast and Kaipoi and I'll see how it goes.

[slofox]

I'll buy myself a cigarette lighter socket, I'll put it in the glovebox with my radar detector and test if the performance is acceptable.
I'll try and find one of those 'false radar' things that set the detectors off on the Ka band. I think they have one on SH1 between Belfast and Kaipoi and I'll see how it goes.

What sort of system does it have to let you know when it goes off? My TPX has an LED cluster that mounts on the dash plus a wireless headset that chirps in your ear...

[SMOKEU]

What sort of system does it have to let you know when it goes off? My TPX has an LED cluster that mounts on the dash plus a wireless headset that chirps in your ear...

It chirps when it goes off, and the lights on the screen also show the band it's detecting. It also has an audible alert saying which band it is detecting. Mine has a 3.5mm earphone jack. I really don't have the money to fork out $150+ for a proper detector mount, so I'll give the glovebox method a test.

Does anyone here know if the Ka band thing is still on SH1 between Belfast and Kaipoi? Are there any other ones in Christchurch?

[slofox]

It chirps when it goes off, and the lights on the screen also show the band it's detecting. It also has an audible alert saying which band it is detecting. Mine has a 3.5mm earphone jack. I really don't have the money to fork out $150+ for a proper detector mount, so I'll give the glovebox method a test.

Does anyone here know if the Ka band thing is still on SH1 between Belfast and Kaipoi? Are there any other ones in Christchurch?

Earphone should be OK - although I do have trouble hearing mine at times over wind noise. But then I also wear earplugs. Which compounds the problem...

[Gremlin]

Radar detectors work fine through plastic, but are affected by metal. With your radar detector behind you, surrounded by a metal subframe, i can't imagine it's going to work very well.

[SMOKEU]

Earphone should be OK - although I do have trouble hearing mine at times over wind noise. But then I also wear earplugs. Which compounds the problem...

I suppose the fact that my helmet is very noisy only adds to the problem.

[bsasuper]

I made one from a piece of 2mm aluminium, it uses the left clipon bolt to mount it.

[slofox]

I suppose the fact that my helmet is very noisy only adds to the problem.

Yea - maybe. Try it and see I guess.

In real life, I find the visual alert more use than the headset - it's real bright!

[onearmedbandit]

I have mine mounted behind the fairing and it works fine. V1 so it has the direction arrows on it, and it tracks perfectly, which even surprised me.

[thepom]

I mounted mine on top of the master brake cylinder on a piece of aluminium,stuck a piece of velcro on both bits and hey presto.....also if it starts to rain just put a plastic bag over it with an elastic band and its waterproof!

[slofox]

I mounted mine on top of the master brake cylinder on a piece of aluminium,stuck a piece of velcro on both bits and hey presto.....also if it starts to rain just put a plastic bag over it with an elastic band and its waterproof!

There is another product out there called DUAL LOCK. It's a 3M product and works a little like velcro but is way more secure. I use it for lots of things - like helmet cam etc...

You can get it from Ram Solutions.

[SMOKEU]

There is another product out there called DUAL LOCK. It's a 3M product and works a little like velcro but is way more secure. I use it for lots of things - like helmet cam etc...

You can get it from Ram Solutions.

I'll have a look for that stuff as I just found the perfect place to mount my detector. On each main side fairing there is a big flat piece, so then I can put the detector behind the front fairing to keep it out of the wind. Then all I have to do is rangi up some wiring an I'm done.

[SpeedMonger]

Hi Smokeu, at the next WNR I'll show you the mount I made if you are interested. Since my bike has bars I've made a mount using a push bike reflector mount. I removed the reflector lens and fixed some aluminium plate to it. I also use the 3M Dual lock like slofox, it's a great product.

Heres a couple of pics I have taken in the past, has it's rain hat on. lol

And yes, the camera on the motorway bridge still triggers ka band

[Morcs]

RAM solutions are fantastic, but youll pay a lot of money - each component is like $30 and youll need 4, then youll need a plastic case, some 3m dual lock, and a spare power cable to butcher to hardwire it - all up a lot of money.

Just get a tank mount of ebay? good for cameras too, one component, just add a plastic case and a hardwire cable and ya good to go.

[Gremlin]

those plastic covers are Shit in my opinion. Lost the top of mine one night, found the radar detector hanging by its wires. Now I use a modified Pelican case attached to a ram mount

[SMOKEU]

Hi Smokeu, at the next WNR I'll show you the mount I made if you are interested. Since my bike has bars I've made a mount using a push bike reflector mount. I removed the reflector lens and fixed some aluminium plate to it. I also use the 3M Dual lock like slofox, it's a great product.

Heres a couple of pics I have taken in the past, has it's rain hat on. lol

And yes, the camera on the motorway bridge still triggers ka band

Good idea, I'm keen to check it out. You know what I look like don't you?

[robo555]

RAM solutions are fantastic, but youll pay a lot of money - each component is like $30 and youll need 4, then youll need a plastic case, some 3m dual lock, and a spare power cable to butcher to hardwire it - all up a lot of money.

Just get a tank mount of ebay? good for cameras too, one component, just add a plastic case and a hardwire cable and ya good to go.

On their website they're charging $7 for a 4" strip of Dual Lock :shit: Those things are sold by rolls...

[slofox]

On their website they're charging $7 for a 4" strip of Dual Lock :shit: Those things are sold by rolls...

I got my last lot from them for free...:yes:

[SpeedMonger]

I get mine from work. $15 for two 1m strips, I use it in my cars etc. Much better to use than stupid suction cups. Also take strips with me to use in rental vehicles etc. Great stuff.

No SmokeU, but we'll figure it out. I got the silver CB1000R, and i know what you you have :scooter:

[Morcs]

Anyone know a place where you can walk in and buy some?
My new mount and hardwire arrived today, will pickup a cover, and want to pickup some dual lock too so i can go riding tomorrow night :)

[Juzz976]

I just use grunty velcro from 3M... Duct tape might suit your budget tho

[Gremlin]

Last time I checked ages ago (2-3 years - before Ram Solutions ever stocked it), basically no-one sold Dual Lock.

Bought an entire roll (100m or something) from Attwoods

[Morcs]

the glue guru in wairau road stock it i think, ill go there tomorrow and let ya'lls know.

[Morcs]

the glue guru in wairau road stock it i think, ill go there tomorrow and let ya'lls know.

Went and grabbed some, $15 for half a metre is the least they will sell ya, so about the same as ram solutions. If anyone needs some ive got 25cm left...

[tamarillo]

What sort of system does it have to let you know when it goes off? My TPX has an LED cluster that mounts on the dash plus a wireless headset that chirps in your ear...

Tell us how well that TPX works - looking myself but some info suggests they can all be uselss when cops use stealth - leave it on hold untill they see you then turn it on full - by which time it is too late. In traffic yoru detector may pick up cop using it on someone else but on empty roads down here?

[slofox]

Tell us how well that TPX works - looking myself but some info suggests they can all be uselss when cops use stealth - leave it on hold untill they see you then turn it on full - by which time it is too late. In traffic yoru detector may pick up cop using it on someone else but on empty roads down here?

No radar detector is totally foolproof - not even the top of the range models. They can only detect a signal when there is one. So if the copper is using stealth he may well catch you out, detector or no.

How well does the TPX work?

My own opinion is that it does a good job but I don't think it has the range of the very top end models. They may well pick up a signal further out than the TPX.

Howsumever, it seems to give me adequate warning. I deliberately leave all bands active so that any alert triggers checking the speedo and closing the throttle a bit...so far so good. I was using it in the car last Friday night (4km speed tolerance time) and it fired up for the copper on Hampton Downs straight as I rounded the corner at the far end which gave me plenty of time to check speed (which was OK anyway!) It has also reacted to radars that are way off axis - like around corners etc so it's not too bad.

The other thing to bear in mind is that I rarely exceed the speed limit if there is any traffic in sight. I don't mind pushing it a bit on deserted roads but when there is a car anywhere in sight I take it carefully. Busting my own arse is one thing. Busting someone else's is another.

The radar detector, for me, is there to make sure I don't get pinched because I am dreaming and not keeping an eye on my speed. I don't look upon it as a license to hoon. If anything, it has brought my highway speeds back a little rather than encouraged me to go faster.

[CRM]

Howsumever, it seems to give me adequate warning. I deliberately leave all bands active so that any alert triggers checking the speedo and closing the throttle a bit...so far so good. I was using it in the car last Friday night (4km speed tolerance time) and it fired up for the copper on Hampton Downs straight as I rounded the corner at the far end which gave me plenty of time to check speed (which was OK anyway!) It has also reacted to radars that are way off axis - like around corners etc so it's not too bad.

The other thing to bear in mind is that I rarely exceed the speed limit if there is any traffic in sight. I don't mind pushing it a bit on deserted roads but when there is a car anywhere in sight I take it carefully. Busting my own arse is one thing. Busting someone else's is another.

The radar detector, for me, is there to make sure I don't get pinched because I am dreaming and not keeping an eye on my speed. I don't look upon it as a license to hoon. If anything, it has brought my highway speeds back a little rather than encouraged me to go faster.

Agree - I've found that using the detector in my car I actually drive slower. I got it because I was getting really annoyed at getting tickets for totally lame things that were completely unnecessary and not in the least bit unsafe :angry:- not so I can go faster.

I haven't used it properly on my bike yet - I seem to be a able to spot them easier from the bike and I think bikes are a smaller and harder target for them too (never had a ticket on the bike but lots in the car - not because I ride slower than I drive!) I tried just sticking the mount on the Bel to the screen but it shakes too much and would fall off so wondering how to mount it better before I do my next big trip in November - a few good ideas here...:Punk:

[SMOKEU]

I mounted the detector on my bike and it fell off the bike while I was riding it. Luckily the earphone and power cables were still attached to it so it didn't hit the ground.

[imdying]

RD to slow you down... interesting concept.

Any time I've used a RD, it was to help me speed like a motherfucker, definitely didn't use it to speed check or remind me not to :sunny:

[slofox]

RD to slow you down... interesting concept.



Not that unusual from what I have read...

To be honest, it works better at slowing me down in the car. For some strange reason, it is a little less effective on the bike...

But the innate suspicion is better on the bike anyway (see above post). Like this morning...I was approaching a sweeping left hander catching up to a slow car and the temptation to go fanging 'round said car was pretty strong. For some reason the inner voice said "nah - not now"...so I hung back. At which point the highway patrol car appeared coming t'other way. So I didn't end up looking like a dork after all...

[imdying]

Not that unusual from what I have read...Yeah, I keep reading it too... but then I keep seeing these too...
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[CRM]

Two problems with radar detectors on bikes:

Can't see them
Can't hear them
I'm wondering about getting a clear plastic box big enough to velcro or clip somehow under the top lip of my windscreen so that the detector lights are angled up at just under my line of sight. So now you can see the warning lights. Then in the bottom end of the box put a small mirror so that the signals are deflected up onto the right angle so that you get correct line of sight.

Anything wrong with my brilliant plan? :blink: I'll put up some pictures when it's made...

[avgas]

Two problems with radar detectors on bikes:

Can't see them
Can't hear them

I'm wondering about getting a clear plastic box big enough to velcro or clip somehow under the top lip of my windscreen so that the detector lights are angled up at just under my line of sight. So now you can see the warning lights. Then in the bottom end of the box put a small mirror so that the signals are deflected up onto the right angle so that you get correct line of sight.

Anything wrong with my brilliant plan? :blink: I'll put up some pictures when it's made...

Your buying the wrong ones.
I suggest you google
"motorbike radar detector"

there are a few out there custom made for motorbikes......with all these things you whine about fixed.
they are called features

[SMOKEU]

Anything wrong with my brilliant plan? :blink: I'll put up some pictures when it's made...

I wish you luck in getting it to stay fixed without falling off. You will need something much stronger than velcro, superglue might work if you don't mind getting it all over your windscreen.

[CRM]

Your buying the wrong ones.
I suggest you google
"motorbike radar detector"

there are a few out there custom made for motorbikes......with all these things you whine about fixed.
they are called features

Yeah but I'm too tight for that:laugh:. The challenge is to make this work for under $20 using my Vector XR950 :yes:

[CRM]

I wish you luck in getting it to stay fixed without falling off. You will need something much stronger than velcro, superglue might work if you don't mind getting it all over your windscreen.

They said the same thing about the space shuttle and that worked (well - mostly it did) :shutup:

[SMOKEU]

They said the same thing about the space shuttle and that worked (well - mostly it did) :shutup:

I've given up on the whole idea of fitting a radar detector to my bike. It's not really worth it in the end because it keeps falling off and I don't want to damage the detector.

[slofox]

Two problems with radar detectors on bikes:

Can't see them
Can't hear them
I'm wondering about getting a clear plastic box big enough to velcro or clip somehow under the top lip of my windscreen so that the detector lights are angled up at just under my line of sight. So now you can see the warning lights. Then in the bottom end of the box put a small mirror so that the signals are deflected up onto the right angle so that you get correct line of sight.

Anything wrong with my brilliant plan? :blink: I'll put up some pictures when it's made...

The TPX has a "visual alert" - which is a triple LED doover that you fix on the windshield and point at your eyes. Kind of hard to miss when it goes off...and burns your retinas off...

For fixing, try the Dual Lock from 3M. I use it to stick stuff to the outside of the helmet. Nothing's ever fallen off using that stuff...

[SMOKEU]

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For fixing, try the Dual Lock from 3M. I use it to stick stuff to the outside of the helmet. Nothing's ever fallen off using that stuff...

I tried that stuff, it's weak as fuck. Maybe I just got a bad batch of it though.

[slofox]

I tried that stuff, it's weak as fuck. Maybe I just got a bad batch of it though.

Your finding surprises me - I've never had a failure yet...

Did you use it to fix something heavy? Maybe it has a weight limit...

[SMOKEU]

Your finding surprises me - I've never had a failure yet...

Did you use it to fix something heavy? Maybe it has a weight limit...

I used some of those strips to fix the radar detector to my bike. Just a standard sized detector. I paid $7 for it from Ram Solutions, and used all of the strips that were included to mount it.

[slofox]

I used some of those strips to fix the radar detector to my bike. Just a standard sized detector. I paid $7 for it from Ram Solutions, and used all of the strips that were included to mount it.

I'm surprised that it didn't work. I use it to suspend my radar detector in the car and it has only a tiny strip holding it. It stays on fine.

I also use it to hold my helmet camera onto the side of the helmet. It has never fallen off. I trust it implicitly...well, actually I do usually run a cord round the camera just in case, like...but have never needed it.

You do have to really push it together to get it to engage properly but I'm sure you would've noted that for yourself.

Weird. Maybe you got a bum batch or summat..?

[SMOKEU]

Weird. Maybe you got a bum batch or summat..?

Apparently so.

[slofox]

Apparently so.

Talk to RAM solutions - I've always found those dudes to be pretty good to talk to...

[bsasuper]

There is velcro, and then there is velcro that works. After 2 years with a detector secured with the good velcro, ive still got the detector.

[onearmedbandit]

I'm just using two small strips of generic brand velcro, I have to pry it off pretty much, meaning there is no chance of it falling off on it's own accord.

[Gremlin]

Amateurs. :facepalm:

Pelican case rubber-mounted with bolts to ram solutions ball, then ram solutions mount. Pelican has normal rubber inside then a thick layer of foam that wraps around the radar detector.

Almost 100% waterproof (I've been through storms with it no problems) and bounces down gravel tracks and rough roads probably on every ride. :woohoo:

Ok, so it probably cost the better part of $200 all up, but its not going anywhere and was the most indestructible method I could think of.

[onearmedbandit]

Yes but your RAM mount I assume holds your detector up high and proud for everyone to see? My $2 solution is just as secure and allows me to place my radar out of sight.

[pritch]

My detector is held to the bike by gravity and velcro from Spotlight. The battery pack is secured to the back of the helmet with a velcro patch as is the little HARD sender on the side of the detector (if fitted).

No worries so far.

[Gremlin]

Well, being a supermoto there isn't a place called out of sight :D

[CRM]

Yes but your RAM mount I assume holds your detector up high and proud for everyone to see? My $2 solution is just as secure and allows me to place my radar out of sight.

So where do you put it that is out of sight but can still pick up signals? I thought they had to sit flat and have clear line of sight?

[onearmedbandit]

So where do you put it that is out of sight but can still pick up signals? I thought they had to sit flat and have clear line of sight?

Sits on top of one of my ram air tubes directly behind the fairing. It picks up signals very well, and being a V1 with the directional arrowseven they work well where I have it placed. I've read of people on here who have their detector in their pocket or tank bag and still working. Only metal will disrupt the signal, material and plastic are fine.

[miloking]

Sits on top of one of my ram air tubes directly behind the fairing. It picks up signals very well, and being a V1 with the directional arrowseven they work well where I have it placed. I've read of people on here who have their detector in their pocket or tank bag and still working. Only metal will disrupt the signal, material and plastic are fine.

You are talking about radar right?...laser will not get picked up if you have the datector in the pocket...not that it matters because you have like virtualy 2 seconds to react..

[onearmedbandit]

You are talking about radar right?...laser will not get picked up if you have the datector in the pocket...not that it matters because you have like virtualy 2 seconds to react..

Yeah I'm aware that it won't get laser, but like you say you have little time to react. Not much room up on the dash of the gixxer, so where I have got it is better then not having it at all.

[rapid van cleef]

My escort passport sits on my generic tank camera/gps mount and attached with heavy duty velcro from bunnings. i have to peel it off quite hard and it definetly will not come off by itself. However, I am getting pissed off with no tank bag and the hardwire earphone jack cable flapping about everywhere. So, I'm considering mounting it either insdie the fairing somewhere. But getting it to sit horizontal willbe tough, or just sticking it in me tank bag and see how that goes. With clip ons a handbar mount was no go so im pretty limited really. Does it matter so much if the detector is not totally horizontal?

Of course the disadvantage of these trial systems is going to have to mean going outr for a long long ride and stick to the speed limit on the open road looking for cops.

My escort picks up cops from miles away, round corners too, never failed me yet.

[Idubbs]

I used some of those strips to fix the radar detector to my bike. Just a standard sized detector. I paid $7 for it from Ram Solutions, and used all of the strips that were included to mount it.

Did you clean down the surfaces with alcohol first? Also with the 3M adhesives, they need about 24 hours to cure and after that they are more likely to rip your paint off if you try removing it! I've never had a problem with it sticking. Oh, if the Dual lock is coming apart with the RD attached, then you may not be using the heavy duty one! Talk to Ram Solutions.

[SMOKEU]

Did you clean down the surfaces with alcohol first? Also with the 3M adhesives, they need about 24 hours to cure and after that they are more likely to rip your paint off if you try removing it! I've never had a problem with it sticking. Oh, if the Dual lock is coming apart with the RD attached, then you may not be using the heavy duty one! Talk to Ram Solutions.

I did clean the surfaces with alcohol first. The Dual Lock sticks to the bike well, it's just that the Dual Locks come apart from one another.

[Idubbs]

I did clean the surfaces with alcohol first. The Dual Lock sticks to the bike well, it's just that the Dual Locks come apart from one another.

I'd say it was too light a grade. Try the Dual Lock 250/250 !