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BOGAN02
4th October 2010, 18:04
Well ive been reserching glass tanks and it seems to me that no one got any problems with them. was wondering if any kiwis have glass tanks and if anyone can hook me up with some info. cause im a glasser by trade and not 100% sure bout gas n glass. Cheers

Motu
4th October 2010, 19:05
I've had a couple of bikes with fibreglass tanks in the past,and they gave no problems.

cs363
4th October 2010, 19:11
Check this thread out: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/archive/index.php/t-42100.html

I could be wrong, but from what I understand, nothing wrong with fibreglass tanks - the issue could be if you're wanting to use it on the road, then you'll have to get it LVV certified.

schrodingers cat
4th October 2010, 19:17
As a thermo-setting plastic material the resin, whether polyester or 2 part, is unaffected by fuel.
The only problem with fibreglass and liquids is if the fibres are able to come into direct contact with the fluid. Over time the liquid will 'creep' up the fibre. This is called osmosis. That's one of the reasons for gel coat.

If you use woven cloth then the tank will be strong but flexible. It you bag it and vacuum it then the tank will be strong and light. There is no reason the tank shouldn't be lighter than an aluminium one
I'd use a 2 part resin because it is less brittle than polyester

BOGAN02
4th October 2010, 23:15
If you use woven cloth then the tank will be strong but flexible. It you bag it and vacuum it then the tank will be strong and light. There is no reason the tank shouldn't be lighter than an aluminium one
I'd use a 2 part resin because it is less brittle than polyester

Yea im not worried bout weight as im takin a mould off the tank ive got for my ride but its rusted to f*ck!! and plus i wana use up some more of the room round the top of the frame. The tank doesnt quite go down as far as id like and for what i vision of the bike a slightly bigger tank but with the same shape would be mean.

As for cert.... the bike is pretty uhhh "custom" any way so still wondering if im guna get it fully legal or keep it for a toy. 220517

HA all this from messing round on the rattlers website. haha

jonbuoy
5th October 2010, 04:12
PM Eurodave heīs a great guy makes a lot of fibreglass stuff including tanks. Iīve got an old Dunstall fibreglass tank which has some osmosis on the base (that tank is over 30 years old though). I scrape back the gelcoat and fill as they appear but I think its near its end of days. In the states they have a problem with ethanol blended fuels and some types of resin but I donīt think anywhere in NZ has ethanol blend fuel?

imdying
5th October 2010, 12:49
the issue could be if you're wanting to use it on the road, then you'll have to get it LVV certified.This is true.


As a thermo-setting plastic material the resin, whether polyester or 2 part, is unaffected by fuel.VER was original designed for chemical tanks IIRC, so it's probably a good one to look at first.


The only problem with fibreglass and liquids is if the fibres are able to come into direct contact with the fluid. Over time the liquid will 'creep' up the fibre. This is called osmosis. That's one of the reasons for gel coat.This is true too. I'd consider "POR15ing" it too.


If you use woven cloth then the tank will be strong but flexible. It you bag it and vacuum it then the tank will be strong and light. There is no reason the tank shouldn't be lighter than an aluminium one
I'd use a 2 part resin because it is less brittle than polyesterYeah, I'd bag it and use a bit of woven kevlar on the bits that can drag on the ground in a crash too.


As for cert.... the bike is pretty uhhh "custom" any way so still wondering if im guna get it fully legal or keep it for a toy. LVV Certification covers the entire vehicle, so just wait till the end and get it all done at once for the same price. Worth keeping in touch with your certifier as you go along though, just to make sure you're not doing anything you need to alter later :)

imdying
5th October 2010, 12:51
PM Eurodave heīs a great guy makes a lot of fibreglass stuff including tanks.If he's done it before, then he's your nigger... not much beats experience.

BOGAN02
6th October 2010, 10:21
If he's done it before, then he's your nigger... not much beats experience.

Cheers imdying. Im a glasser myself by trade so ill probly do it in the shed. lol

imdying
6th October 2010, 11:21
Go hard and post pics :yeah:

/edit: Nothing wrong with doing it in the shed mate, I've a small composite oven and a bagging setup in mine :D

{.bLanK}G_o_D
20th November 2010, 16:24
If your current tank doesn't have gaping holes, POR15 will fix it.
I just did my tank, it's bloody good stuff.

ellipsis
20th November 2010, 17:16
.....had one on a racing machine...held fuel for a lot of years....one contact with the tarmac and all of a sudden leaked like niagara falls where the base was attached to top of tank...was real cool for all those years before that tho....

Moooools
21st November 2010, 21:13
Vinyl Ester Resin is what I was told to use. Just went to a boat builder and got them to decant me some into a glass jar and a bottle. Cost me all of $15 for enough for a gas tank.

Haven't used it yet though.

rwh
21st November 2010, 21:53
In the states they have a problem with ethanol blended fuels and some types of resin but I donīt think anywhere in NZ has ethanol blend fuel?

We do, up to 10% ethanol.

Richard

imdying
22nd November 2010, 08:30
Yeah, VER is designed for chemical tanks etc, I'd probably plump for that.