Commonwealth Games - crock? [Archive]

scracha

4th October 2010, 20:29

Just spent a few milliseconds watching eNZed vs Wales ladies hockey game. There is NOBODY in the stadium. I shit you not, there's more spectators at my local fitbaw ground on a Saturday afternoon. Only signs of life are security guards and stewards. Ridiculous. You'd have thought they'd let the locals in for next to bugger all.

Wondering what all the poor bastards are going to do with all these plush stadiums they've funded.

Woodman

4th October 2010, 20:36

All this crap about the poor old athletes having bad accomodation is pissing me off.

What about the poor locals who were kicked out of their homes and are now living in rubbish dumps or on the streets.
How would you guys feel if that was you?

I am boycotting it.:whocares:

Also is there anyone else here who finds opening ceremonies a crock of shit? They are all the fcuken same.

The Everlasting

4th October 2010, 20:40

Yep,definitely a big crock.

Genie

4th October 2010, 20:42

I have no interest in watching these games...they're stained with blood.

India....hmmm:shutup:

Laava

4th October 2010, 20:45

But still.... go the Black Sticks!
No-one at the netball either! Go the ferns!

Genie

4th October 2010, 20:49

sorry, I'm just not feeling it.

Laava

4th October 2010, 20:56

Yeah.......I'm waiting for the beach volleyball

PrincessBandit

5th October 2010, 06:16

Personally I've always had problems with the amount of money poured into these things. I understand a country wanting to capitalise on tourist $ and world wide publicity (always in a good way, they hope). However I find it obscene what financial resources get poured into them when all that money would go such a long way to bettering the life of the citizens. Tourism goes a long way to bringing in cash but without infrastructure and satisfactory standard of living for the people who live there just who is benefitting from it all?

The money required to put on the public spectacles of opening and closing ceremonies for every Commonwealth and Olympic games could fund mega worthwhile causes within the nations they're performed.

Let athletes compete by all means. And I'm not suggesting they go back to the "bare basics" of the original concept from Greece....(although you blokies would be only too happy with that for events such as the beach volleyball for example - btw. I will never understand how that became an olympic games/comm games sport! :dodge: ) But why, especially in countries where atrocious poverty is such a huge reality, does all this $$ have to be wasted for "spectacle" where each country is really only trying to outdo the last?

R6_kid

5th October 2010, 08:30

sorry, I'm just not feeling it.

I'm definitely giving it a feel. Those girls are hot!

Grubber

5th October 2010, 10:06

sorry, I'm just not feeling it.

Your so funny!
:facepalm:

Murray

5th October 2010, 10:31

events such as the beach volleyball for example - btw. I will never understand how that became an olympic games/comm games sport! :dodge: )

Head of the Olympic committe omar samarich's (or something like that) daughter played the game/sport.

BuzzardNZ

5th October 2010, 10:32

Paul Henry was talking about this very thing on Breakfast this morning. He suggested they use the security monkeys ( the ones that scare off the really bad monkeys ) as seat fillers!

NighthawkNZ

5th October 2010, 10:36

Commonwealth games :blink::blink::blink::blink: they are on???

dogsnbikes

5th October 2010, 11:00

game's???? hmmmmmmm gheez its a wonderful day to go for a ride :scooter:

nudemetalz

5th October 2010, 11:02

I heard that Prince Charles got stopped at the gates and wasn't allowed in for an hour and a half because he didn't have the right pass.... :facepalm::gob:

Banditbandit

5th October 2010, 15:01

I have no interest in watching these games...they're stained with blood.

India....hmmm:shutup:

Personally I've always had problems with the amount of money poured into these things. I understand a country wanting to capitalise on tourist $ and world wide publicity (always in a good way, they hope). However I find it obscene what financial resources get poured into them when all that money would go such a long way to bettering the life of the citizens. Tourism goes a long way to bringing in cash but without infrastructure and satisfactory standard of living for the people who live there just who is benefitting from it all?

The money required to put on the public spectacles of opening and closing ceremonies for every Commonwealth and Olympic games could fund mega worthwhile causes within the nations they're performed.

Let athletes compete by all means. And I'm not suggesting they go back to the "bare basics" of the original concept from Greece....(although you blokies would be only too happy with that for events such as the beach volleyball for example - btw. I will never understand how that became an olympic games/comm games sport! :dodge: ) But why, especially in countries where atrocious poverty is such a huge reality, does all this $$ have to be wasted for "spectacle" where each country is really only trying to outdo the last?

I'm with you both ...

I'm definitely giving it a feel. Those girls are hot!

'cept when hot girls are bouncing round in tight clothes .. Go the Ferns .. Go the Black Sticks ...

Forest

5th October 2010, 16:20

Just spent a few milliseconds watching eNZed vs Wales ladies hockey game. There is NOBODY in the stadium. I shit you not, there's more spectators at my local fitbaw ground on a Saturday afternoon. Only signs of life are security guards and stewards. Ridiculous. You'd have thought they'd let the locals in for next to bugger all.

1. It's hockey
2. It's women's hockey
3. It's NZ vs Wales

And you are seriously wondering why nobody is turning up?

I doubt they could even sell seats to this fixture if it was held in New Zealand.

scracha

5th October 2010, 17:50

1. It's hockey
2. It's women's hockey
3. It's NZ vs Wales

And you are seriously wondering why nobody is turning up?

I doubt they could even sell seats to this fixture if it was held in New Zealand.

If its in a city with 16 million inhabitants then I would expect the gate price to be reasonable enough that a few thousand of them would be sat spectating.

Berries

5th October 2010, 22:35

Quick, the table tennis replay is on Sky right now.

Banditbandit

6th October 2010, 08:23

1. It's hockey
2. It's women's hockey
3. It's NZ vs Wales

And you are seriously wondering why nobody is turning up?

I doubt they could even sell seats to this fixture if it was held in New Zealand.

And it's in India .. a BIG hockey-playing nation ...

scracha

6th October 2010, 21:20

And it's in India .. a BIG hockey-playing nation ...
He's not being sarcastic either.

Berries

6th October 2010, 22:51

WTF ? Solo synchronized swimming is on at the moment. Isn't that a contradiction in terms ?

Nice legs but.

Genie

7th October 2010, 07:55

WTF ? Solo synchronized swimming is on at the moment. Isn't that a contradiction in terms ?

Nice legs but.

ummmm, yeah, can't quite see how that one works either.:shutup:

Banditbandit

7th October 2010, 08:04

Yeah .. I always thought synchronized swimming was just controlled drowning ...

pzkpfw

7th October 2010, 08:24

WTF ? Solo synchronized swimming is on at the moment. Isn't that a contradiction in terms ?

Nice legs but.

Maybe they mean the swimming is synchronised to the music?

In which case, I could be a competitor, but the music would have to be thrash metal or something so my unco flailing would match (or you couldn't tell it didn't).

wysper

7th October 2010, 08:57

In which case, I could be a competitor, but the music would have to be thrash metal or something so my unco flailing would match (or you couldn't tell it didn't).

I believe that would be the 50mtr fly. :woohoo:

But yeah, I could care less about the Comm Games and I consider myself a bit of a sports nut.

Oakie

7th October 2010, 20:36

So it occured to me watching the decathlon shot-put event tonight with hardly a spectator in sight that you could almost have as part of the commentary "...and the spectator goes wild!" It then occured to me that their equivalent of the Mexican Wave would be the two spectators waving to each other from opposite sides of the stadium. My daughter sent me a txt earlier suggesting the cycling would be better if it were like the Super Mario Cart racing where the competitors can throw bombs at each other or grow super size and flatten their opponant. Speaking of cycling ... saw the Aussie winner of whatever race it was and she wins the gold medal for the most prominent camel-toe. Could almost use it as a bike-stand! Gold medal effort there.

JimO

7th October 2010, 20:47

they should use the security monkeys for seat fillers

mashman

11th October 2010, 12:32

pzkpfw

11th October 2010, 12:58

Oh the injustice of it all (http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/commonwealth-games/news/article/-/8107893/upset-williams-trapped-bizarre-200m-tiff), as a kiwi gal gets into her final, then because they change the time of the race, she decides to pack her bags and come home... why would you not run in the final? Kinda makes a mockery of going over there in the first place, let alone all of the training etc...

"Now we are all going to turn up fresh, it's not fair, it's not right at all."

Oh for goodness sake.

(If she aims to win by being fitter, not faster, maybe she's in the wrong event in the first place?)

mashman

11th October 2010, 13:06

Oh for goodness sake.

(If she aims to win by being fitter, not faster, maybe she's in the wrong event in the first place?)

She wasn't happy about her new lane either :blink: Where's Paul Henry when ya need him :shifty:...

Luckylegs

11th October 2010, 14:51

Packed her bags and went home (to the village) you idiot. FFS she couldn't stay there all night...

How you read she came home to nz is beyond me. Sure a quick perusal of an article, but surely if you gonna take the time to post on nz's finest forum you'd have made sure you'd read it right.

THATS ALL

EDIT: On a totally different subject, be very careful when posting from an iPhone the word NZ directly followed by is, as it will auto correct to NAZIS leaving your post looking decidedly un-savoury DAMHIK

mashman

11th October 2010, 15:09

Packed her bags and went home (to the village) you idiot. FFS she couldn't stay there all night...

How you read she came home to nz is beyond me. Sure a quick perusal of an article, but surely if you gonna take the time to post on nz's finest forum you'd have made sure you'd read it right.

THATS ALL

heh, it could be interpreted that way :shifty: I associate home with home, not a hotel or village, hope she wins :)

Berries

11th October 2010, 20:40

Maybe they mean the swimming is synchronised to the music?

In which case, I could be a competitor, but the music would have to be thrash metal or something so my unco flailing would match (or you couldn't tell it didn't).
Sounds like you'd be a dead cert for the solo judo.

Woodman

11th October 2010, 21:08

Forest

11th October 2010, 21:29

Berries

11th October 2010, 22:39

Lets not get too serious, but rugby and netball should not be at the games. No team sports should be. Same as the Olympics. Should be athletics and swimming only.

And ladies gymnastics for obvious reasons.

scissorhands

12th October 2010, 04:30

Synchronised swimming is not a sport and should not be in the (any) games.

In fact any competition that is judged should not be considered a sport. e.g. gymnastics, surfing etc

A sport must be won by being first or faster or stronger etc. Should not be open to interpretation.

In my opinion.

The Commonwealth games concept is well past its used by date.

I dont think its all done and dusted. These New Delhi games are just an example of a really bad show or entertainment.

Kiwi's got bugger all precoverage or marketing except dirty accomodation stories constantly run prior etc in the media, almost none of our athletes were introduced to NZers through interview or article.

Our $ driven media fucked up by not finding fiscal reasons or sponsors to run these stories or highlight our sporting hero's.

Same as the Indian authorities for failing to put bums on seats.

Major fail TVNZ:angry: or maybe the commonwealth games committee are the root problem.

BTW where the fuck did they find the staff:facepalm::sick: who are covering 'this event'

pzkpfw

12th October 2010, 08:11

So you don't believe the following Commonwealth Games events are actually sports?

Hockey, Rugby, Netball, Wrestling, Boxing etc

All of the above are interpreted by referees and/or judges.

That's different. There the referees and/or judges are just making sure the rules are followed correctly. It's still about who (or which team) is better at doing the thing that they are meant to do: punch harder, pass a ball without dropping it, ...

Even in a sprint, you need judges to see if someone jumped the mark. In the longer races the judges make sure people stay in their lanes. In the swimming the judges make sure the strokes are, um, stroked correctly. And so on.

That's quite different to the kind of subjective point scoring judging that he was talking about.

(Though I'm a little on the fence about the boxing...)

Swoop

12th October 2010, 11:07

Synchronised swimming is not a sport and should not be in the (any) games.

Quite correctly, the Olympic and also the Commonwealth name these gatherings "games".

To quote (http://thinkexist.com/quotation/there_are_only_three_sports-bullfighting-motor/145019.html) Hemmingway “There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games".

Sadly, the sponsors have been heard and games like rugby, golf, tennis and basketball have been included.:weird::rolleyes:

Woodman

12th October 2010, 18:04

So you don't believe the following Commonwealth Games events are actually sports?

Hockey, Rugby, Netball, Wrestling, Boxing etc

All of the above are interpreted by referees and/or judges.

What pzpkfw said.
The refs in Rugby don't decide how many points a try is worth based on style or how many tackles were broken now do they?

eelracing

15th October 2010, 00:33

Lets not get too serious, but rugby and netball should not be at the games. No team sports should be.

What? and miss out on the look on those crushed Aussie faces after the Sevens/Netball finals.

Priceless.

Forest

15th October 2010, 11:58

What pzpkfw said.
The refs in Rugby don't decide how many points a try is worth based on style or how many tackles were broken now do they?

No. But they constantly have to make subjective decisions such as whether a try has been scored, and whether the run of play constitutes playing advantage.

JohnJumper

15th October 2010, 14:33

I became an avid netball fan for about 20 mins last night, which was well worth it

Berries

15th October 2010, 20:25

Yeah, I saw them rolling around on the floor afterwards as well :yes:

Oh well, next time it's Glasgow. I wonder how the games will go being held somewhere where they don't speak English ?

schrodingers cat

16th October 2010, 09:07

I dont think its all done and dusted. These New Delhi games are just an example of a really bad show or entertainment.

Most major events now (World Cups, Olympics, Games even F1) are a convoluted form of theft.
Hosting countries spend large amounts of (tangible) public funds to prepare and host an event on the promise of larger amounts of (intangible) future earnings due to spin off benefits.
It creates an industry.
The people working hardest (athletes) get FA. The organisers and their shady friends get the lions share.

Having used tax payers money to put the event on, they have the cheek to charge admission.

The fuss created is a distraction from the fact that your money is being squandered.

India is left with lots of lovely facilities built in the fastest cheapest way so the rest can be pocketted. They will be falling down in 10 years.

Pretty hard choice between watching a mediocre peice of entertainment and spending your cash on trying to feed your family India. They voted with their feet.

Watch what happens with the Rugby World Cup. The NZ public will be castigated by the media and organisers for not turning up. They won't ever consider that what constitutes excitment for them (large profits) isn't shared by the general public.

Shadowjack

16th October 2010, 10:12

Watch what happens with the Rugby World Cup. The NZ public will be castigated by the media and organisers for not turning up. They won't ever consider that what constitutes excitment for them (large profits) isn't shared by the general public.
I know this is a Comm Game thread, but:
Several weeks ago I read of the RWC organisers castigating (hope you don't mind if I borrow the word - it's a good one!) hopeful accommodation providers in Auckland and elsewhere for promoting "irresponsible profiteering". From that, I took it that responsible profiteering by the RWC organisation and friends is OK...
And then they asked for volunteers to help run the event!
Ah well, never mind, I'm off to have a look at a collection of Japanese Classics. :sunny: