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FROSTY
7th June 2005, 23:17
My computer is soposed to be the ducks nuts with truckloads of memory and all that good stuff. Im not into gaming or vid downloads yet things seem to be taking ages to happen.
I've got a jetstream unit which I just can't gwet to run
Im running Win98 version 2
Sparky--Bless his little cotton socks came over and got things running again for me but still not properly.
If possible could some computer tech come over and do what needs to be done to get the ol gal humming again.

John
7th June 2005, 23:19
best bet is just to get one of the locals to come around - ask tristanK he might be willing to travel - I would for you but abit out of reach eh?

I will link him to this post when he comes back online, but there are plenty of other willing geeks around so it should be ok for someone to pop round n sort you out..

zadok
7th June 2005, 23:30
I presume you are using virus scanning software.
If not, it is a must!
I use the free AVG from Grisoft: http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5
and the free SpybotSD: http://www.download.com/Spybot-Search-Destroy/3000-8022_4-10122137.html
I don't seem to get any problems.
You could also go to 'performance & maintenance' in the control panel to do a defrag if it hasn't been done for a while..
Hope this helps.

SpankMe
7th June 2005, 23:34
Nothing like a fresh re-install of the OS with all the updates from windows update (http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/) to get everything running right. For a while anyway.

Also running Ad-Aware (http://www.lavasoft.de/english/), Spybot (http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html) & MS Spyware (http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html) helps.

Waylander
7th June 2005, 23:44
You could also go to 'performance & maintenance' in the control panel to do a defrag if it hasn't been done for a while..
Hope this helps.

Which option in there do I choose to do the defrag?

I see:

zadok
7th June 2005, 23:52
Which option in there do I choose to do the defrag?

I see:
'Rearrange items....'

Waylander
8th June 2005, 00:25
'Rearrange items....'
Ok I did that and ran the analylisis. It shows that a bunch of my downloads are fragments. Will defraging my drive delete the actuall files or are these just left overs from when I downloaded them?

John
8th June 2005, 00:30
Ok I did that and ran the analylisis. It shows that a bunch of my downloads are fragments. Will defraging my drive delete the actuall files or are these just left overs from when I downloaded them?
'Re-arrange files to make programs run faster'

IIRC

Waylander
8th June 2005, 00:33
'Re-arrange files to make programs run faster'

IIRC
Ok but if I lose any of my downloaded files I'm gonna come knocking on your door.:whistle: And what does IIRC mean?


Edit) Haha Can't do it anyway. Need to have 15% free space I only have 1% right now.:weird:

HDTboy
8th June 2005, 00:35
Defragmenting, shifts all the fragmented files into as small an area as possible, so that the hard drives head(s) don't spend as much time searching for shite. Well that's my basic understanding/guess

And the best part is that you won't lose your porn waylander :D

John
8th June 2005, 00:36
Ok but if I lose any of my downloaded files I'm gonna come knocking on your door.:whistle: And what does IIRC mean?

Just click defragment you wont loose anything.

IIRC = If I remeber correctly

John
8th June 2005, 00:39
Defragmenting, shifts all the fragmented files into as small an area as possible, so that the hard drives head(s) don't spend as much time searching for shite. Well that's my basic understanding/guess

And the best part is that you won't lose your porn waylander :D

Every cluster has a reference in the FAT, that allows programs to be stored in bits in different areas - this means that when a part of the software is opened then the part that is being excuted can be paged to ram, and normally by the time its paged back to the HDD the orginal allocation area has being used so its put elsewhere, hence fragmentation, defragmenting just moves the files back together in a correct order, reducing seak time.

HDTboy
8th June 2005, 00:42
It's a good thing I just fix cars then aye?

Ixion
8th June 2005, 00:43
Ok but if I lose any of my downloaded files I'm gonna come knocking on your door.:whistle: And what does IIRC mean?


Edit) Haha Can't do it anyway. Need to have 15% free space I only have 1% right now.:weird:

If you have only 1% free space system performance will be BADLY munted. You need to clear out some trash files (have you emptied your trash can ? ) to get at least 20% free space.

Then run a FULL defrag, because by now your file system is going to be shatted six ways to midnight. Credit to it that the beast runs at all.

A defrag definately won't lose anything, unless your disk is already damaged (in which case it's already lost, just you don't realise it ).

John
8th June 2005, 00:44
It's a good thing I just fix cars then aye?
You actually fix them? I hear otherwise ;)

HDTboy
8th June 2005, 00:46
Fix, Thrash, Is there a difference?

boomer
8th June 2005, 00:46
Hi Frosty,
I'm in Aucks (east) and i'm happy to help.
The problem your getting with the defrag lies with the fact you have less than 15% disk space left. On your c: drive clear out any programs you dont need/want. you should have at least a gig free space on there for you're pc to run well.

That maybe alot of your 'problems' but i'd also suggest the spyware programs the guys have suggested above as well as some virus checker like norton antivirus 2005.

With regards to your printer and jetstream, whats the problem your having? wanna pm me and i'll try and help :)

cheers
Boomer

Ixion
8th June 2005, 00:51
Every cluster has a reference in the FAT, that allows programs to be stored in bits in different areas - this means that when a part of the software is opened then the part that is being excuted can be paged to ram, and normally by the time its paged back to the HDD the orginal allocation area has being used so its put elsewhere, hence fragmentation, defragmenting just moves the files back together in a correct order, reducing seak time.

Pretty much. Defrag organises the pages into the most efficient ordering on the physical sectors (which is not necessarily all "side by side", cos for a disk subsystem it's actually more efficient to have sequential reads occur at opposite "ends" of the disk - read from the right hand side, now read from the left hand side sort of, rather than reading adjacent sectors.This is because of cacing) .

Normally, a program has to be fully loaded into memory , and paging or swap is when inactive pages in memory are swapped back to the hard disk. But the swap area is a completely different hard disk area to the original file area (in fact on Windows system the swap area is just a honking big file called pagefile.sys, located in the root of C:. Unix systems it's more complicated)

Fragmentation occurs when there is not enough contiguous HDD space to store the original program or file. NTFS file systems on W2K and XP don't actually use a FAT, though the concept is the same - just more complicated.

Waylander
8th June 2005, 00:54
I empty my recycle bin everytime I put something in there. Not much chance of me keepingmore than a few hundred meg of free space on here. I'm to download happy. I deleted about 4 gig of files a few weeks ago and filled it back up in a few days. Just finished deleting some old pictures and other old files I decided I could do without. so hope this works.

HDTboy
8th June 2005, 00:56
Time to sacrifice the goat porn and free up some space

Ixion
8th June 2005, 00:57
Hi Frosty,
I'm in Aucks (east) and i'm happy to help.
The problem your getting with the defrag lies with the fact you have less than 15% disk space left. On your c: drive clear out any programs you dont need/want. you should have at least a gig free space on there for you're pc to run well.

That maybe alot of your 'problems' but i'd also suggest the spyware programs the guys have suggested above as well as some virus checker like norton antivirus 2005.

With regards to your printer and jetstream, whats the problem your having? wanna pm me and i'll try and help :)

cheers
Boomer


Twas Mr Waylander had the hard disk space issue, not Mr Frosty (though he may have that too). Mr Frosty's problem sounds much more like spyware and maybe viruses.

Jetstream is really just a matter of organising Telecom or your friendly ISP to do it, its a pure hardware matter. They do a bunch of stuff, plug a bunch of dongley things into your phone ports and connect up a ADSL modem (it's not really amodem, but everyone calls it that). And you're away ('cept you gotta pay them a bunch of money though)

Printer is dead easy if you have a USB port, just plug the muvva in, pop in the CD they give you and run it. Done.

I'm East Auck, be glad to help if I can.

Ixion
8th June 2005, 01:00
I empty my recycle bin everytime I put something in there. Not much chance of me keepingmore than a few hundred meg of free space on here. I'm to download happy. I deleted about 4 gig of files a few weeks ago and filled it back up in a few days. Just finished deleting some old pictures and other old files I decided I could do without. so hope this works.

You really do need to try to keep at least 10% free space at all times, the system needs a bit of elbow room. Do you have a CD or DVD burner ? If you do, you can burn your pr0n to CD/DVD and problem solved. Might be worth an investment if not, they're pretty cheap nowdays .

Waylander
8th June 2005, 01:04
You really do need to try to keep at least 10% free space at all times, the system needs a bit of elbow room. Do you have a CD or DVD burner ? If you do, you can burn your pr0n to CD/DVD and problem solved. Might be worth an investment if not, they're pretty cheap nowdays .

MY sister has the cd burner drive but I dont have any blank cd's to use. (too broke) And there is no porn on my pc it's all episodes of Ghost in the shell, Hellsing, Wolf's Rain and RedvsBlue. Aswell as heaps of music. Have some blank dvd's that I can burn onto but I have to convince my sister's BF to get off his lazy arse and help me burn it as the burner is on his laptop.

Mr Skid
8th June 2005, 01:09
And there is no porn on my pc
You poor bugger!
PM Spank, he'll hook you up :niceone:

John
8th June 2005, 01:11
NTFS file systems on W2K and XP don't actually use a FAT, though the concept is the same - just more complicated.

Metafiles gotta love em :rofl:


But when you break the NTFS system down you will find its tree like structure exactly the same as fat - just with an extended bitmap, anyway continue, your overly energetic tonight - I dont think I would be posting messages that long at this time of night ;)

FROSTY
8th June 2005, 08:03
Ok Guys -puter is now workin again--slooowly--
I see all the posts HMM
Picture this - Im kinda like Young master Rossi When it comes to USING a puter.
I can cut n paste and type and stuff.
Get me in the engine bay (software) i wouldn't have a friggen clue
Any offers of help --fatastico
Frosty
021544251

FROSTY
8th June 2005, 14:33
If it helps -no I havent um--defragged for awhile and I suspect the puter has bugs init

Ixion
8th June 2005, 14:37
If it helps -no I havent um--defragged for awhile and I suspect the puter has bugs init

I think you need to download and install and run the stuff referred to in posts #3 and #4.

That will cleans the nasties out. (Best to run them a couple of times, sometimes things sneak back in )

Then run a defrag to clean up the disk

bugjuice
8th June 2005, 14:58
pick up said PC, toss in bin, go buy mac.
problem solved.

sAsLEX
8th June 2005, 15:07
pick up said PC, toss in bin, go buy mac.
problem solved.

you now have a much prettier paper weight!

FROSTY
8th June 2005, 16:47
ya really dont geddit --I dont have a clue how to de bufg defrag or de anything --except maybee destroy -my puter.

bugjuice
8th June 2005, 16:53
ya really dont geddit --I dont have a clue how to de bufg defrag or de anything --except maybee destroy -my puter.
deeeeeessssssttttttrrrrrrrrroooooooooyyyyyyyyyy it :devil2:
then go to Magnum Mac in Newton Road, say you want a Mac Mini and Virtual PC, then go home, plug it in, and you're done. No more worries, ever..

Ixion
8th June 2005, 17:08
Any geeks out West Auckland way that can drop by on Mr Frosty and give him a hand ?

Waylander
8th June 2005, 17:37
How long should it take to defrag about 28GB?

Ixion
8th June 2005, 17:46
How long should it take to defrag about 28GB?


Depends on how big a mes sit is. At least a few hours but could be longer

Waylander
8th June 2005, 17:51
Here is what it shows me.

(handy tool that print screen button)

Ixion
8th June 2005, 18:03
Here is what it shows me.

(handy tool that print screen button)

Yeah, it's only 3% through. May take a while. 28GB is quite a lot of p0rn

HDTboy
8th June 2005, 18:39
Any geeks out West Auckland way that can drop by on Mr Frosty and give him a hand ?

I'm no geek, but i could swing by tomorrow and have a look at it if you want your highness

John
8th June 2005, 18:45
Here is what it shows me.

(handy tool that print screen button)
FYI - It will run through quicker if you dont use it while it defrags - because every file you change means a restructure of the proccess and/or restarting the proccess, so maybe you could take a break from spamming the forum :P

Waylander
8th June 2005, 18:48
FYI - It will run through quicker if you dont use it while it defrags - because every file you change means a restructure of the proccess and/or restarting the proccess, so maybe you could take a break from spamming the forum :P
Blah blah blah but then I would have nothing to do but watch "friends". BTW it's at 23% now.

crashe
8th June 2005, 19:07
Waylander - Start 'Defragging' your comp last thing at night and then go to bed and sleep... If you aint done it for ages.... then thats the best way to do it. It will sort everything out and put all ya bits and pieces back where they should be...

Oh and Defrag a lot more often - at least once a month... or more often ..

Before you start to defrag, clear out ya 'History' and 'cookies' and clear out any other shit ya dont want to keep.
I also do a Ad-aware and anti-virus manual check as well before defragging.

The more crap you download the more often defrag ya need to do...

FROSTY
8th June 2005, 19:09
well Im not bruddy spamming

crashe
8th June 2005, 19:12
Frosty - What are ya running... I am assuming XP.
How many RAM memory... I also assumming heaps.
As I am also assuming you have a newish comp.

Printer - Do you have a USB port at the back of ya comp?
If so put the CD in that came with the printer in the comp...
and follow all instructions.
Usually you dont plug in the printer until you are told to.

I cant come and help you out mate... I wish I could, but due to being stuck at home.... I am sure that someone else out there, can come up to your home and help you out.....

John
8th June 2005, 19:16
How many RAM memory... I also assumming heaps.


hehehehe :niceone:

badlieutenant
8th June 2005, 19:59
if I get the time next week frosty ill pop by and see what can be done

Jeremy
8th June 2005, 20:37
I've got Friday free except for work from 4-5 if your desperate. Just pm me with directions. I've got to head out to Colemans on Friday anyway, and west auckland can't be that much further away.

Gremlin
8th June 2005, 21:22
There is also the windows tool Disk Cleanup. Screenshot attached, the start of the menu structure might look different. You can run that, and it will show things you can delete.

When the window pops up, there is a second tab where you can delete other restore points (except the last one) so if the PC has been running good for a while, or when you last made a restore point the PC was fine, deleting the others will add a lot of space, depending on how much space you allowed it to have in the first place.

FROSTY
18th June 2005, 10:36
Um ok guys n gals Sparky came over a week ago and got the puter runnning again but I really need a puter software expert to sort the danged thing out.
PLEASE dont ask me techie stufff cos I dont know.I just want a puter running up to speed and jetstream running.

riffer
18th June 2005, 21:12
Jeez mate. Take some time off, come down here and I'll sort it for you. I'll even throw in MotoGP as well :whistle:

Biff
18th June 2005, 21:16
Don't forget to switch off your anti virus when you defrag. Otherwise you may find it keeps re-retting itself or takes bloody ages as sectors may continue getting written to.

And disconnect your tinternet connection thingy :drinkup:

craisin
19th June 2005, 18:08
you may be able to free up some space by running disk clean-up. 20% Freespace is good but if the HD is too small it dont leave much space for downloading. If you have 2 HDs they run better together if they are the same brand and run at the same speed. One big fast HD is the best and if anybody tells you different they are most likely trying to sell some cruddy old HD. Just as well I dont fix nothing :clap:

craisin
19th June 2005, 18:18
oh yes this old PC tech told me Defrag in safe mode is the intelligent thing to do as there is minimal things running=quicker by far. Hold down the Ctrl key during boot-up and safe mode will come up as an option

craisin
19th June 2005, 18:27
You need a Firewall Broadband means there is more bandwidth to steal. in laymans terms that isthe case :yes: