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jrandom
28th November 2003, 16:14
OK you lot. Here's how it goes.

The rear tyre on the FXR is fully shagged after 12000kms. Motomail say that all they can do for my rim size is dodgy Taiwanese crap or high-perf stickies (012s and wotnot).

Now, given that I've had a niggling feeling at the back of my head for a while that proper tyres on the scoot would likely contribute to my health and longevity, which of the supersport tyres do we like best? And therefore what should I spend my meager cash on next week when buying a new set? (Yes, of course I'm doing the front at the same time.)

Motoracer
28th November 2003, 16:31
Can you get thoes tyres for the FXR150? eg Perellie diablos?

I'd be trying to get Dunlop GPRs on it if I were you. Costly but they do the job.

jrandom
28th November 2003, 16:34
Originally posted by Motoracer
Can you get thoes tyres for the FXR150? eg Perellie diablos?

Well, the Dunlops and the Bridgestones I can get, yes. I chucked the Avons and the Pirellis into the poll for added interest (and who knows, anyway...)

wkid_one
28th November 2003, 16:35
You forgot Metzler M1's and Rennsports.

The M1's kick the 208's, 010's etc arse and the Rennsports are better priced than the Super Corsas and offer no less grip.

 

 

 

Motoracer
28th November 2003, 16:42
I was going to mention Rennsports as well cause I love them but Rennsports on a FXR150? Come on!! (no offence Jrandom)

bluninja
28th November 2003, 16:44
The Avons, give pretty good grip, but used to be poor in the wet. The new ones though have solved that problem. I've sport on the front of the RSVR, and a sport tourer on the rear and I've never pushed the bike hard enough in any conditions on road in NZ to make them slide or squirm (but that may just be my riding slowly). Wear so far is good, even with a V twin that is noted for chewing up the rear.

The diablo is supposed to be ideal for cold and wet, but I've only read the blurb.

The pirelli supercorsas have great grip, but  in the wet they're slippy as, when leant over (probably due to being almost a slick on the edges). I have these on the SV650 and only managed to lose the front in the wet at the track. Also had them on the RSVR, but the rear lasted about 1500k. The current rear has done 6k and is hardly marked (including 1 day at Pukekohe).

One thing someone pointed out in another tyre thread. Road/touring tyre compounds are made to be grippy at lower temps, whereas road race sticky tyres need to be really warmed up to temp to get optimum stickiness. Thus on your bike touring road tyres may give more grip/stick than the 'sticky' race tyres. Best talk to Kerry at Motomail and get him to give his expert advice, based on what sort of riding you do, and what you want from the tyre.

TTFN

 

Motu
28th November 2003, 17:30
Just put some Kenda 760s on the XT - they make a hell of a noise,get a bit squirmy,but drift well with good control....on gravel they are excellent,haven't tried them off road yet,maybe this weekend,but I'd say as good as you can get with a DOT tyre.Tyre life looks dismal.

georgedubyabush
28th November 2003, 20:11
Are you sure you can fit those hipo tyres?

According to the Pirelli site, a Diablo starts with a 150/60 at the narrowest for a 17" rim. A BT012 starts at 180/55ZR17 on the Bridgestone site, for a recommended 5.5" width of rim.

There would probably be a lower spec range in something that still has the brand name. I have BT092s which is about the best I can seem to find in my size range. I'm happy enough

wkid_one
28th November 2003, 20:28
PS - buy a jet ski then tyres aren't an issue - only for the trailer and retreads'll sort that out right smart

Kwaka-Kid
28th November 2003, 21:18
i have done much reading online etc and heard that the Bridgestone BT090 is one of the best allround tyres, by that i mean its meant to be pretty shit hot in the wet too.  Altho i have also been told the Dunlop GPR70SP's are the best intermediate tyre for the wet... so who knows, all i know is my Bridgestone BT90 rear has not lasted 1000trackkm so i need something harder.

But if we are talking Crossplys, then F*** Metzler!! hate them, the old Lazers etc, nah-uh, you dont want.  You want yourself a set of Michellen Macadam's if you ask me... to be honest i thought the FXR had such tiny rims it would be on crossply's not radials?

Antallica
29th November 2003, 07:30
I have to say that my cheapo 3.50x17 Chengshin I got for $70.00 + $28 Labour has proved it's worth, it's a good all rounder in wet & dry. She still loves to corner. Only problem with it, is that it seems not as wide as the stockie's and looks more like a off road tyre.

But if I had known you can get a bloody high perf. tyre :angry2:

Coldkiwi
29th November 2003, 12:26
after my recent encounter with the tarmac, I'm sorry to say I will never trust dunlop rubber again. Having said that, I used GPR 80's on my GPX's 18" rear because I couldbn't find much else to fit and they were ok. If you're looking for 18" rubber you are very very limited for choice and won't find anything super sticky, only commuting tyres (so forget diablos/rennsports yadda yadda)

Haven't had any dramas with the number of pirelli combinations I've run on and can't wait for the GSXR to be wearing diablo corsa's!

 

matthewt
29th November 2003, 23:24
Originally posted by Coldkiwi
can't wait for the GSXR to be wearing diablo corsa's!


Don't even consider commuting in the wet with diablo corsas, have you seen the sides of the front tyre ??

I'm just about to put a diablo on the front, the MV has an oddball 120/65 front which bugger all make now and the diablo 120/70 is one of the few that fit without clearance problems. I've heard fairly good things about the diablos. I run a dragon GTS on the rear which is more a sports/touring than pure sports but it's there so I'm not replacing rears every 3-4 months.

You'll be pleased to know I'm getting rid of the current D207 front (which is a 120/65) after shredding the front out in a hard session one day. I probably should of changed it before the track day in the rain on Wednesday, luckily I took it very easy and left early once it was obvious it was never going to stop raining.

Yamahamaman
30th November 2003, 00:07
Originally posted by Coldkiwi
after my recent encounter with the tarmac, I'm sorry to say I will never trust dunlop

 

I do not believe that Dunlop is the fault as I have always used D207/D206/D208 depending on which was availbable at the time. Probably choose D220 for the next set. Remember the saying; "A bad mechanic always blames his tools".

However to qualify - if there was diesel on the road (spilled from a passing (overfilled) bus or other stinking diesel powered vehicle - or even placed by the Boy Racer brigade) then it would not have mattered what the Suzi was shod with - the result would be the same more than likely.

Oh and also, the Owner's Manual is a great place to start for the Manufacturer's recommendation. Yamaha suggest Dunlop or Michelin for their '01 R6.

Dave
30th November 2003, 15:15
Dunlops are awesome on a race track but IMO can't meet the wide range of conditions you'll find on the road-leave that to the pirellis

wkid_one
30th November 2003, 15:34
Originally posted by Yamahamaman
However to qualify - if there was diesel on the road (spilled from a passing (overfilled) bus or other stinking diesel powered vehicle - or even placed by the Boy Racer brigade) then it would not have mattered what the Suzi was shod with - the result would be the same more than likely. 

Amen to that - I was riding fucken hot M1's when I hit diesel - no chance

750Y
30th November 2003, 19:42
Originally posted by matthewt
Don't even consider commuting in the wet with diablo corsas, have you seen the sides of the front tyre ??

I commuted in the wet with Diablo Corsas 80k round trip many times. The only problem came from the odd diesel, but aside from that they're sweet as. I wouldn't recommend them for commuting because they won't last(unless you're rich) but I would consider a Diablo Corsa front & Diablo rear as a good combo on the road. my only negative comment about the diablo corsa is that they don't have the best feedback and maybe aren't the best wet tyre.
The Avon AV49/50s are a good tyre with surprising grip but again a little lacking in the wet. the front profile makes them feel a little weird too.
The Bridgestone BT010 are an excellent tyre and very good in the wet and last well too. I'd recommend these for sporty road riding.
Believe it or not Dunlop D207RR is a top tyre, lasts medium but grips always and awesome in the wet/cold along with wicked feedback. probably my favourites. and no they're nothing like standard 207 or 208s. I love those tyres best of all on road but they're not making them anymore 8-(
I have only heard good things about M1s except complaints about longevity.
I didn't mention race tyres here because I don't think they apply in a road environment so much, unless You are pretending to be a racer on the road. Race tyres for race track,road tyres for road. racing on the track not the road, keep it real.
anyways that's my .02.

wkid_one
30th November 2003, 20:49
I think some people are getting confused here - the DiabloSuperCorsa is basically a cut slick with NO and I mean NO water grooves within 1 - 1.5 inches to the edge of the tyre - and that which it does have are next to bloody useless is the wet anyway. The SuperCorsa is marked 'Race Track Only' - by Pirelli.   The Corsa is classed a Road Race Tyre by Pirelli

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Standard Diablo

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Diablo Corsa

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Diablo SuperCorsa

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matthewt
30th November 2003, 21:05
Actually the bottom photos are for the old Dragon Evo SuperCorsas, you can see the much different tread pattern. The MV came stock with Dragon Evos Corsas (not supercorsas). You can only get old stock in these now as the diablos replace the evo range.

twistymover
30th November 2003, 23:28
My MeZ4s that came with my bike have been excellent in wet and dry conditions. They are also steel belted so that punctures are less likely to happen. My vfr seems to handle ok, but I guess there is always a better tyre around. If you're happy, why change.
Is there anyone with a vfr 750 or 800 who could recommend a good tyre for the bike that is better than the MeZ4s?

750Y
1st December 2003, 08:47
Originally posted by matthewt
Actually the bottom photos are for the old Dragon Evo SuperCorsas, you can see the much different tread pattern. The MV came stock with Dragon Evos Corsas (not supercorsas). You can only get old stock in these now as the diablos replace the evo range.

Yeah those bottom ones are Pirelli Evo SC's.(same compound as rennsports). I don't think they make a "diablo Super Corsa" as such.

wkid_one
1st December 2003, 10:48
Yeah they do and the tread pattern is as shown

merv
1st December 2003, 11:14
Originally posted by twistymover

Is there anyone with a vfr 750 or 800 who could recommend a good tyre for the bike that is better than the MeZ4s?

If you saw my earlier posts on tyres you will see I said MEZ4 were crap compared to the MEZ2 they replaced so sadly you can't buy the MEZ2 any more. My complaint about MEZ4 is they are so hard in the carcass that they chatter round curves that are even vaguely corrugated and then the rubber in them was too soft for long life - only went 2/3 the distance the old MEZ2 did. So they didn't feel as good and didn't do the distance so they had neither quality of stickiness nor long life. They felt like a hard slippery tyre that you would think would last forever, but no thye are crap. Therefore for my VFR I changed to Michelin Macadam 100X which have a nice feel and hopefully will last the distance. Basically as a sport tourer rider (and a tight arse) I don't like buying tyres too often but I still want them to grip at a reasonable, if not race speed around corners.

750Y
1st December 2003, 11:38
Originally posted by wkid_one
Yeah they do and the tread pattern is as shown

well there you go then, i was wrong.

Coldkiwi
1st December 2003, 16:20
Originally posted by matthewt
Don't even consider commuting in the wet with diablo corsas, have you seen the sides of the front tyre ??
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I appreciate the concerns guys but given that I've been commuting half teh winter on a dragon evo supercorsa on the Zx-6R (that looks precisely like that bottom photo incidentally) on the front, being on a diablo corsa front doesn't phase me at all. I don't fang in the wet anyway so i don't need that last inch of sea tread. horses for courses... or is that corsa's? :)

I am still deciding between a rear diabo or Diablo corsa. After my little spin (literally) last week I think the added confidence the corsa would give the rear end would be well appreciated at the expense of a quicker replacement. The standard diablo would definitely be the sensible choice if i didn't feel quite so nervous about the back of my bike.

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Coldkiwi
1st December 2003, 16:30
Originally posted by Yamahamaman
I do not believe that Dunlop is the fault as I have always used D207/D206/D208 depending on which was availbable at the time. Probably choose D220 for the next set. Remember the saying; "A bad mechanic always blames his tools".&nbsp;


yeah. you make a good point. I appreciate that not all dunlops are as crusty as the ones the GSXR came with (I'm sure a few are phenomonal )but it really comes down to what I'm going to feel the most confident on. Pirelli's for me have been quite forgiving and provided good feedback and reasonable wear. My few experiences on Dunlops have ended up with my ass on the ground.

As&nbsp;i posted elsewhere, the tyres weren't the only reason I hit the deck (i'm not that much of a bad mechanic) but once I'd screwed up by putting too much power down they didn't give me&nbsp;enough information to do anything useful about it. Hwne i had my scare at puke in similar circumstances but in the wet, I felt it early enough to back off the gas and not get thrown and I was on the dragons so I can only assume things would've been different last week if the GSXR was similarlly shod... maybe not but its my theory!

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madandy
1st December 2003, 17:19
And I thought the mez4's on my bike were alright!but now I think about it they DO skip around in corrugated bends and the front tyre gives no feedback at all under brakes.I saw these tyres advertised for $500/pair(probably a rip-off) in last weeks Motorcycle trader...is there a better set for that price?I commute(open raod 20mins.) mostly with some tentative hooning after work, on the way home...only had the bike a week, now.

merv
1st December 2003, 18:33
Originally posted by madandy
And I thought the mez4's on my bike were alright!but now I think about it they DO skip around in corrugated bends and the front tyre gives no feedback at all under brakes.

Problem for me was I had MEZ2 before the MEZ4. At the time I got the MEZ2 they replaced the OEM Dunlops (can never remember the model seeing that was way back when I bought the bike) and Carl from Sawyers (now at Motorad which now has Sawyers next door) recommended the change to Metzeler for the kind of riding I do which isn't 11/10 like Wkid. The minute I rode out the door I could feel the difference, the MEZ2 made the VFR run like it was on rails and they gripped like crazy. Surprise was they outlasted the Dunlops and by then I was getting more used to the bike and probably on average rode faster than I had when I first bought the bike.

Then I got the MEZ4 because they were the replacement model for the MEZ2 - but as I keep saying the MEZ4 feel far to hard and skittery and don't give the same confidence with grip. I moaned at Forbes and Davies the importers and got told they had a harder carcass with softer rubber - so what the hell is the use of that so I told them I would not be buying their tyres again. I would only like a hard tyre for being soft on my wallet but this wasn't the case - they felt crap and only did 2/3 the kms riding the same bike under the same conditions.

The Michelins I have now feel a much softer construction and grip well but the bike does seem to move around a bit more so I countered that by winding my rear shock damping up about a 1/4 turn. I guess with the Metzelers being a bit firmer I had run the suspension a bit softer and now I'm doing the opposite.

The VFR to me anyway is a well balanced and easy bike to ride with no strange handling tendencies and I don't want tyres making a difference to that.

LB
1st December 2003, 18:42
I've got a Pirelli GTS on the rear, and a Diablo on the front of the Duc. Only had the Diablo on for 1500kms but some of that was on cold wet road and it seemed fine. Mind you, I don't corner hard, I always have a chicken strip between half and one centimetre. Got the GTS fitted halfway through a South Island tour when the original Evo wore through after 4200kms.

On my Beemer I run Michelin Pilot Roads (prior to that ran Macadams but I understand they don't make them any more, and the Pilot Road is the replacment). They last for ages, yet have not let go on me once. Bear in mind though that I don't ride as hard as some of you guys.

MERV: nice to catch up with you at lunchtime.

Lynda

jrandom
2nd December 2003, 08:12
Well, thanks for all the responses guys. I guess I should have called Leading Edge first before worrying - just spoke to the nice chappie there and I'll be getting a pair of Pirelli MT75s fitted this arvo for $240, which is quite a result IMO. But yes, for those of little faith among ye, there *is* a range of supersport tyres available to fit the RGV/FXR 150s :D

"The Pirelli MT75 was developed for small and medium sport and sport touring bikes. It has a modern, aggressive tread pattern that ensures a high level of both dry and wet weather performance. The MT75 provides excellent handling, superior grip and traction in corners and good mileage."

Sounds like just the ticket. Super-stickies were a bit of a pipe dream anyway.

750Y
2nd December 2003, 08:38
a pair of tyres for $240. good score! 8-)

georgedubyabush
2nd December 2003, 12:15
Originally posted by jrandom
provides excellent handling, superior grip and traction in corners and good mileage."


is it just me, or isnt that spiel used for every tyre on the market?:D

Coldkiwi
2nd December 2003, 16:09
without a doubt! marketing spiels aside, its best to find people who have used the tyres in the past and ask questions (good move Jrandom!)

respect for finding reasonable tyres at such a good price for your bike. I really struggled to find a suitable pair on my gpx.

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jrandom
5th December 2003, 13:54
Bye-bye, crappy old tyres...

jrandom
5th December 2003, 13:58
... and hello MT75s, I should *so* have got a pair of these as soon as I bought the bike. Huge improvement. Done a couple hundred kays on them since fitted now, and I can certainly recommend them for anyone with a similar machine. Very confidence-inducing and they steer lovely (although they feel somewhat twitchy in a straight line down the mway, but hey, you can't have it all).

I'll be taking the Coatesville road home tonight in an attempt to remove the remaining chicken strips :2thumbsup

James Deuce
5th December 2003, 14:42
:2thumbsup

Dude!!

Nice One!!

Jim2

Hitcher
20th January 2004, 15:05
And nobody mentioned Michelin Pilot Sports here? They seem to stack up well for some model bikes and Michelin have had some success on the track...
:disapint:

Pickle
20th January 2004, 17:22
Have just fitted Pirelli Diablos on the ZX6 and find them to offer good grip, steer pretty quick, cost was very good $470 fitted. I know the bike shop made a mistake but that is their problem. these tyres feel better than the MT 21 Corsa I had on the front and better than the GTS on the rear, will be interested in seeing how they go in the wet and how long they last.

James Deuce
20th January 2004, 20:22
And nobody mentioned Michelin Pilot Sports here? They seem to stack up well for some model bikes and Michelin have had some success on the track...
:disapint:

I'm going to put Pilot Roads on the TRX when the Macadams wear out. That will be a while though, and given Macadams reputation for lasting forever, I may have to either attack them with a coarse grit disc in the drill, or cloak the neighbourhood with grey smoke.

LB
21st January 2004, 04:47
We used to run Macadams on the Beemers, now run Pilot Roads - yep, you'll be waiting a while......

matthewt
21st January 2004, 08:55
We used to run Macadams on the Beemers, now run Pilot Roads - yep, you'll be waiting a while......

When I brought by fireblade a few years ago it had Macadams on it. Man, they lasted for ever!! (not bad on a bike like that ;) )

slob
21st January 2004, 09:45
For people on 250s and 400s I'd recommend Dunlop GPR80 for road and GPR70 for road/track. Very reasonably priced at Red Baron too (picked up a GPR70 front for only $205).

I'd also advise people to steer clear of Michelin Pilot Races for street use - had 'em on my old TL1000S, lost count of the number of massive slides I had!

Hitcher
21st January 2004, 10:13
The best tyres for my 250 were Dunlop GT501 Arrowmaxes. Great in the wet and dry, sharp steering, good under hard braking.
:)

Hitcher
21st January 2004, 10:15
There are some excellent online fitment guides. The Dunlop and Michelin ones work really well.
:sleep:

Coldkiwi
21st January 2004, 10:57
Avoid Dunlop 207 U's at all costs. Had them on the GSXR when new and they are the worst rubber i've ever used. (keep it clean guys!)
instead, fit diablo Corsas for fanging and stay upright and happy! Miles better and give reasonable grip when cold (doesn't take long to heat either). stick like snot when hot!

anyone seen these new michelin power sports? apparently they're using the motogp rubber compound which handles the high power and mileage requirements of those bikes (the tyre promised land??). Will wait to see some reviews.

Hitcher
21st January 2004, 11:24
Avoid Dunlop 207 U's at all costs. Had them on the GSXR when new and they are the worst rubber i've ever used. (keep it clean guys!)
instead, fit diablo Corsas for fanging and stay upright and happy! Miles better and give reasonable grip when cold (doesn't take long to heat either). stick like snot when hot!

anyone seen these new michelin power sports? apparently they're using the motogp rubber compound which handles the high power and mileage requirements of those bikes (the tyre promised land??). Will wait to see some reviews.
There's no reference to Power Sports on the Michelin website -- unless you mean Pilot Sports or unless Michelin haven't updated their site yet.
:eek5:

Redstar
22nd January 2004, 21:18
:bleh: Actually I am not a tyre expert (no really! I know thats incedible but true) but my knowledge does extend to knowing that most good sports bike tyres are duel composite and wear well in the centre and stickey on the sides and will repond to your style of riding :yes: so if your a mototway commuter why buy a soft center that will square off in no time and fail the warrent for no center tread. Next the tyre you buy is relative to the size and weight of the bike and you so a BT012 ON A 250 will die of old age before you even blunt the tread,and is really intended for 600cc and above or 400 race bikes at a pinch. BT90 being a more appropriate option?
its nothing to do with brand there all make primo tyres its all about appropriate selection for intended usage and wallet :lol: :yes: :banana: dimentions I ran dunlop 208s and they squared off too early but the BT012 010 combi (more suited for 600s ) suits wallet and ride. Seek advice from a tyre shop but be honest about intended usage as that will determine selection.

FROSTY
15th May 2004, 09:16
something to concider -go down the bucket track and se what the bucket racers are running--they will know whats shit on a small bike and whats the hot shit--

avgas
21st November 2004, 22:11
I actually found the dunlops and the shinko's the nicest on my RG, they aren't too expensive, i found them sticky enough, they cruve nicely so you can really lean in corners and the compound is reasonable so you can do a few burnouts and still go home with having to 'crawl' her home.
But when you go to a little more power and weight (say above 160kgs and 40hp), the pirellis and Bridges are the way to go

JohnBoy
23rd November 2004, 19:17
i am a bit of a pirelli man but have some what changed to michellin of late. when a good mate of mine had his FXR he would always prattle on about how Dunlop 208's were the best thing since sliced bread. if not, why not just put on the shinko's or the Kenda's? what sort of riding you do? do you really need such sticky tyres on a bike that handles sweet as stock? unless your racing (street or track, i will let you decide :sly: ) dont worry about the mint tyres.

warren35
24th November 2004, 20:40
mate im on my second set of diablos and swear by them.me and my aprilia are rideing the sharpest we ever have and i put it down to the confidence i have growen to have in my tyres.getting around 4000kms from a rear for $300.i think my arse is worth it

AMPS
25th November 2004, 07:19
There's no reference to Power Sports on the Michelin website -- unless you mean Pilot Sports or unless Michelin haven't updated their site yet.
:eek5:

Michelin do Pilot Sports and Pilot Power, we're stocking them now. Quite well priced too.
Lou

PS UK Bike magazine did a blind test of sport/touring, sports and track tyres on a Fazer 1000 and CBR600RR. The test was road oriented and the sport tourer come out on top for overall performance. The conclusion was that too many people over-tyre their bikes.
Lou

Cajun
25th November 2004, 11:33
I am currently running Michelin Pilot Power on my gixxer at the moment done about 3000kms on on so far, most of those as been boring trips backwards forward to orcland, but i have found there are awsome tire, only had one little spin out of them, and i had to expect that when you go thru a mighty huge puddle which has some of that shinny tar on bottom of it, very planted stable,

I would recommend them to anyone, but i am a bit bias i have always loved michelin motorcycle tires

Lou Girardin
29th November 2004, 19:10
Just checked and found that I've done 7,500 km's on the rear Diablo. Mostly commuting, mostly giving it heaps fron the lights etc. Probably got 1000 to 1500 km's left. Never had them let go unintentionally. Not bad for a sports tyre huh?

Bonez
30th November 2004, 05:53
Just checked and found that I've done 7,500 km's on the rear Diablo. Mostly commuting, mostly giving it heaps fron the lights etc. Probably got 1000 to 1500 km's left. Never had them let go unintentionally. Not bad for a sports tyre huh?Pretty good alright Lou.

swanman
4th December 2004, 19:48
I have dunlop d217/8's as standard and they are bad tyres. They only grip on a warm day after some use, until that stage they reamain cold and unreponsive, do not buy this tyre for your road riding. :niceone:

WINJA
4th December 2004, 21:42
OK you lot. Here's how it goes.

The rear tyre on the FXR is fully shagged after 12000kms. Motomail say that all they can do for my rim size is dodgy Taiwanese crap or high-perf stickies (012s and wotnot).

Now, given that I've had a niggling feeling at the back of my head for a while that proper tyres on the scoot would likely contribute to my health and longevity, which of the supersport tyres do we like best? And therefore what should I spend my meager cash on next week when buying a new set? (Yes, of course I'm doing the front at the same time.)
DAMN 12000K OUT OF A SET . I NEVER GET MORE THAN 2000K OUT OF ANY RACE OR ROAD TYRE, I THINK YOU SHOULD GET THE STICKYEST TYRES YOU CAN YOUR SHITTER BIKE WONT GO THRU THEM.

Dodgyiti
12th December 2004, 07:01
My MeZ4s that came with my bike have been excellent in wet and dry conditions. They are also steel belted so that punctures are less likely to happen. My vfr seems to handle ok, but I guess there is always a better tyre around. If you're happy, why change.
Is there anyone with a vfr 750 or 800 who could recommend a good tyre for the bike that is better than the MeZ4s?

Yep, both my scoots are wearing MeZ4's front and rear.
Good wet and dry, reasonable price, average wear.
I just like the warning they give when close to maximum grip.
It's a little break out to say- " easy there big fella" :calm:

jrandom
12th December 2004, 07:14
DAMN 12000K OUT OF A SET . I NEVER GET MORE THAN 2000K OUT OF ANY RACE OR ROAD TYRE, I THINK YOU SHOULD GET THE STICKYEST TYRES YOU CAN YOUR SHITTER BIKE WONT GO THRU THEM.

Now, now, don't call the FXR a shitter. You'll make it cry. What'd it ever do to you, huh? Depends what metric you measure your bikes on, see. By the sound of it, you probably burned a whooooole lot more cash running your bike for the same period than I did during my 22,000km on the 150. For someone with no money (like me) that can be important.

The factory tyres were little more than hard plastic rim protectors, hence the long-lasting attributes, also two crashes where they let go under very little provocation. I got about 6000 and a bit km out of the MT75 rear. I rather suspect that with a really sticky tyre, TT900 or similar, an FXR wouldn't see much more than 2 or 3 thousand km on the rear.

Bonez
12th December 2004, 08:12
DAMN 12000K OUT OF A SET . I NEVER GET MORE THAN 2000K OUT OF ANY RACE OR ROAD TYRE, I THINK YOU SHOULD GET THE STICKYEST TYRES YOU CAN YOUR SHITTER BIKE WONT GO THRU THEM.
You obviously have fallen into the trap of throwing your money away at, to quote a local m/c salesman, "perceived" better tyre brands. While those of us without blinders can actually see through this perception. Keep it up the bike shops luv ya. :buggerd:

WINJA
12th December 2004, 18:21
You obviously have fallen into the trap of throwing your money away at, to quote a local m/c salesman, "perceived" better tyre brands. While those of us without blinders can actually see through this perception. Keep it up the bike shops luv ya. :buggerd:
HELL NO I BUY THE OE TYRES THAT PEOPLE TAKE OFF CAUSE THEY SAY THEY ARE NO GOOD, PRIOR TO THE LAST SET OF TYRES I BOUGHT NEW I USED TYRES OUT OF THE RUBBISH AT TREADS AND USED UP THE UNUSED EDGES. AND THE SET I JUST BOUGHT RECENTLY WERE FROM A GSXR 1000 OE TYPE AND THEY WERE VERY CHEAP THEY WERE NEW AND SOME DEALER TOLD THEM THE TYRES WERE RUBBISH I LOVE OE BRIDGESTONES

RiderInBlack
12th December 2004, 18:46
F*ken Tyres are always debaitable. Bloody Tyre companyies have got me by the balls. "Roxanne" will chew out a back tyre every 6000-10Km. They know I'll only buy tyres that will stick on the corners, but that better than having long lasting tyres that leave you lying on the road. Previous set of P. Diab's cost me $520. Less than 4 months later from the same place $650:finger: F*cken rip-off. I could have a full set of 4 tyres on the ute for way less than that.

WINJA
12th December 2004, 19:15
F*ken Tyres are always debaitable. Bloody Tyre companyies have got me by the balls. "Roxanne" will chew out a back tyre every 6000-10Km. They know I'll only buy tyres that will stick on the corners, but that better than having long lasting tyres that leave you lying on the road. Previous set of P. Diab's cost me $520. Less than 4 months later from the same place $650:finger: F*cken rip-off. I could have a full set of 4 tyres on the ute for way less than that.
YEAH WITH YA THERE I NOTICED SINCE TREADS BURNT DOWN TYRES HAVE GONE THRU THE ROOF AND WE HAVE A STRONGER DOLLAR NOW.

Bonez
12th December 2004, 19:48
YEAH WITH YA THERE I NOTICED SINCE TREADS BURNT DOWN TYRES HAVE GONE THRU THE ROOF AND WE HAVE A STRONGER DOLLAR NOW.
My goodness. I've been buying the same type tyre for my bikes for the last 14 years and they've gone up a whole $20-$30. Peace.

WINJA
12th December 2004, 20:25
My goodness. I've been buying the same type tyre for my bikes for the last 14 years and they've gone up a whole $20-$30. Peace.
DIABLO CORSAS WERE $400 FITTED WHEN TREADS BURNT DOWN NOW THERE $580 THATS A BIG INREASE.BT012 WERE $420 FITTED , AND NOW HALDANES WANT $600 AND I HAD TO FIT THEM MYSELF NO THANKS WHAT A RIP OFF

crashe
12th December 2004, 20:38
My last set of tyres cost me nothing......
Cos I was real lucky.....
I won them in a competition at Kerry's - Motohaus......Avon's.

Bonez
13th December 2004, 05:32
DIABLO CORSAS WERE $400 FITTED WHEN TREADS BURNT DOWN NOW THERE $580 THATS A BIG INREASE.BT012 WERE $420 FITTED , AND NOW HALDANES WANT $600 AND I HAD TO FIT THEM MYSELF NO THANKS WHAT A RIP OFFSort of confirms I've made the right decision in selection of bike to suit my riding style and pocket. Around $300 for a set fitted every 10-12,000ks :grouphug: PS-if anyone has any SOHC CB550, DOHC CB750F or GSX750E bits, or complete bikes, floating around in the garden shed unloved I can find a good home for them :yeah:

WINJA
13th December 2004, 18:15
Sort of confirms I've made the right decision in selection of bike to suit my riding style and pocket. Around $300 for a set fitted every 10-12,000ks :grouphug: PS-if anyone has any SOHC CB550, DOHC CB750F or GSX750E bits, or complete bikes, floating around in the garden shed unloved I can find a good home for them :yeah:
YOU DID MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION , THE RIGHT BIKE IS THE ONE YOU LIKE AND FITS YOUR BUDGET AND LIFESTYLE

Teflon
13th December 2004, 21:33
I've got a Avon Azaro on the rear, first impressions were not good. But now i find this tyre so much fun and predictable, because you know every corner you exit it's going have a nice controled slide.

Best of all, you don't have to ride hard to get that same "out of control" feeling, great stuff.

Fuck i better change it, about due for a highside.

muzz
14th December 2004, 00:31
michelin pilot power have been the best for me so far nice round profile rolls into corners and holds on even in the wet they heat up fast very happy with them

inlinefour
15th December 2004, 00:39
:innocent:
OK you lot. Here's how it goes.

The rear tyre on the FXR is fully shagged after 12000kms. Motomail say that all they can do for my rim size is dodgy Taiwanese crap or high-perf stickies (012s and wotnot).

Now, given that I've had a niggling feeling at the back of my head for a while that proper tyres on the scoot would likely contribute to my health and longevity, which of the supersport tyres do we like best? And therefore what should I spend my meager cash on next week when buying a new set? (Yes, of course I'm doing the front at the same time.)

Never thought of this too much. Had the yokohama, perelli, avon etc etc etc.
The only truely safe tyre that I've found that can be thrown about and can grip well in dangerous conditions is the Bridgestone. :headbang: Not only do they have a good preformance history for me, but they also last extremely well, not like the yokoshittahama that I had one very fast month on :puke:
Did not actually know up untill not too long ago that Honda sell all their bikes with Bridgestones, would explain why I've had so many ahe.

nicmotors
22nd October 2005, 13:35
Mate i had an fxr once, went to cycle treads once to replace the rubbers, got the stickest set they could do for me. they weren't anything i had heard of before. The thing you got to remember is that the FXR can't really out do a good name brand tire. come on, really, it aint all that!

T.W.R
22nd October 2005, 15:18
dunno if their still made but michelin M48 used to be the go for slim-rim bikes ( great grip & plenty of life in them) and beg to differ on the pirelli prices ( fitted a pirelli diablo 170/50 and it cost me $320) pirelli dragon corsa costs $408 and is as sticky as shit! but only got 3000k from the sod ( check the pic, it was on my ZXR750)