View Full Version : Not yet fool... the Give Way rule
rustyrobot
15th October 2010, 13:04
I was wondering if any of you had noticed this happening recently. In the last 2 days three people have tried to give way to me according to the upcoming (new/old) Give Way rules. One person yesterday and two people today. I stop, they stop, I gesture wildly, they gesture vaguely, I give up and go. I wonder what the deal would be with this if there was a cop who spotted me?
This rule change takes place next year right? I have a full licence test coming up soon, guess I'll just have to sit there and gesture even more wildly if some fool tries the new(old) rule.
Perhaps people only pay attention to the first half of items on the news.
kave
15th October 2010, 13:17
I almost got taken out last night by someone who obviously doesn't realise that the new law hasn't come into force yet. You have to expect this kind of idiocy though, otherwise you wont be riding for long.
slofox
15th October 2010, 13:18
I was wondering if any of you had noticed this happening recently. In the last 2 days three people have tried to give way to me according to the upcoming (new/old) Give Way rules. One person yesterday and two people today. I stop, they stop, I gesture wildly, they gesture vaguely, I give up and go. I wonder what the deal would be with this if there was a cop who spotted me?
This rule change takes place next year right? I have a full licence test coming up soon, guess I'll just have to sit there and gesture even more wildly if some fool tries the new(old) rule.
Perhaps people only pay attention to the first half of items on the news.
Yeah. Same here. I've seen it so many times. Bloody drivers have the brains of voles most of the time...and that's prolly insulting voles...)
Genie
15th October 2010, 13:22
Me too, damn frustrating and I'm not about to go, what if they do and we 'crash'... my big bad fault.
Badjelly
15th October 2010, 13:27
This rule change takes place next year right?
The rule change will take place in early 2012 (http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/4181321/New-road-rule-to-reduce-crashes), i.e the year after next. They thought about 2011, but didn't want to do it in Rugby World Cup year. So in 2011 we will have
People still following the pre-1979 rules
People who are trying to follow the current rules, but more than half of them don't know what they are
People following the post-2012 rules (but more than half etc)
Unsuspecting tourists
I think they should change them at midnight tonight.
psycho22
15th October 2010, 13:29
I had some fukwit decide to just blare on through when he should have been giving way a couple of days ago.:angry: Im guessing he thought the new rule was out or he was just plain stupid.
Had to pull some evasive maneuvers which normally I can take in my stride but I had my missus on the back and it was the first time she'd been on a bike in years. Luckily she didn't really get freaked out or anything.
Voltaire
15th October 2010, 13:32
Are they doing away with the Stop at Stop sign rule too....i've noticed more of that....:innocent:
psycho22
15th October 2010, 13:44
Are they doing away with the Stop at Stop sign rule too....i've noticed more of that....:innocent:
Oh they abolished that for select cagers years ago don't you know?:yes:
Max Preload
15th October 2010, 13:45
I haven't noticed any change in the rates of people failing to give way correctly. The change isn't set in stone - it's just a proposal. I hope it doesn't change either.
george formby
15th October 2010, 14:00
Everybody is out get us:yes:
The standard of driving round here is terrifying & only gets worse as things heat up & get busier. I counted 37 cars turning into my street off the main road a few days ago. 35 of them cut the corner to a greater (most) or lesser degree. 6 had to swerve to avoid cars approaching the junction. WTF!
The give way rule, old, current or new is only as effective as the noddy on the road. The rules are ok really, it's the moronic attitude of some road users & blatant stupidity / ignorance of others. As bikers most of us realise we have to think when on the road but I believe a lot of car drivers after sitting their tests never think about driving again.
With the give way rule changing ( in 2012 ) a little bit of information is a dangerous thing for these people right now.
I'm saving up for a Scania wagon. If you can't beat them, squash them.
slofox
15th October 2010, 14:16
Are they doing away with the Stop at Stop sign rule too....i've noticed more of that....:innocent:
I'm the only person in The Tron who actually stops at a stop sign. Must be 'cause I'm old-fashioned or summat...
neels
15th October 2010, 14:17
It's not because of the publicity of the proposed law changes, people were not giving way/giving way when they shouldn't long before it was mentioned on the news.
I think I work in the worst street in the country for this, I could have an accident pretty much every day if I had enough vehicles I didn't have a use for...
SMOKEU
15th October 2010, 14:34
The current give way rules confuse me enough as it is.
Usarka
15th October 2010, 14:38
Cop won't do squat if he sees it, unless there is an accident in which case it'll be bikes fault for going to fast.
Voltaire
15th October 2010, 18:21
I'm the only person in The Tron who actually stops at a stop sign. Must be 'cause I'm old-fashioned or summat...
your on the slippery slope....next you'll be slowing for orange lights:innocent:
I got told off this afternoon by a middle aged lady ( 'bout my age) for parking my bike in a 'car' space.....
I pointed out to her that the sign had no mention of cars and that as I pay more vehicle taxes than her I can park anywhere I like......
Had she been drop dead gorgeous I would have agreed and moved my bike for her.:yes:
slofox
15th October 2010, 18:31
your on the slippery slope....next you'll be slowing for orange lights:innocent:
I got told off this afternoon by a middle aged lady ( 'bout my age) for parking my bike in a 'car' space.....
I pointed out to her that the sign had no mention of cars and that as I pay more vehicle taxes than her I can park anywhere I like......
Had she been drop dead gorgeous I would have agreed and moved my bike for her.:yes:
When people hassle me about parking my bike in a "car" space, I tell 'em that I would still occupy one space to go to the bank (or whatever I am doing) if I was in my car so fuck off then...
Motu
15th October 2010, 18:33
I just wing it - road rules don't apply to me...I give way to whoever doesn't give way to me.
Kickaha
15th October 2010, 19:14
The current give way rules confuse me enough as it is.
Time to hand your licence in and start taking the bus then
sunhuntin
15th October 2010, 20:25
methinks i will be doing a lot of walking when this new rule comes in. theres enough people who dont understand the rules as they are now, nevermind changing them. it will be safer to leave the bike at home for a bit while everyone else gets used to it.
i remember well the confusion caused by the roundabout thing, and those rules werent even changed, just enforced. people still dont know how to indicate correctly.
SMOKEU
15th October 2010, 21:02
Time to hand your licence in and start taking the bus then
I can't afford to go on a bus.
porky
15th October 2010, 21:13
I just wing it - road rules don't apply to me...I give way to whoever doesn't give way to me.
my sentiment exactly, go hard... die young. Fuck i must be one hellava soft cock. Im still here!
Aryaeil
15th October 2010, 21:20
Eyes on 110% of the time. Bikes have taught me to study every intersection like I'm doing a practical test. A carload of chaps decided that a headlight wrapped in gleaming red paintwork wasn't worth the give way they were waiting at. Unfortunately I happened to be perving at freshly washed Ducati Supersport at the time. Got me warmed up for the WNR!
ellipsis
15th October 2010, 22:30
You have to expect this kind of idiocy though, otherwise you wont be riding for long.
....living in hope that everyone is reading from the same page as you is not a safe place to be..
baptist
15th October 2010, 22:39
Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
Are they doing away with the Stop at Stop sign rule too....i've noticed more of that....
Oh they abolished that for select cagers years ago don't you know?:yes:
I think they must have abolished the need to stop at red lights as well:shit: :facepalm:
Reckless
15th October 2010, 23:21
Well all I can say is if the education on the new rules is a slack as the ads to inform/educate people of the new roundabout rules by the LTSA there is going to be more chaos!
So lets sum up, people that don't know how to get through a roundabout, people that can't get through an intersection, People that ignore red lights at controlled intersections? Tar bleed, cheesecutters, unmarked road works?
Oh yes the standard cop out for poor roads "Ride to the Conditions" remind me, we are still the dangerous ones that pay $700 plus a year in rego and ACC?? :facepalm:
Voltaire
16th October 2010, 05:59
I can't afford to go on a bus.
I started working in the city...bought a bus pass....three days of that was enough...getting up early as you never know if the bus is going to come early...and its $ 50 a week.....
Now I ride the Ducati....its not ideal but its bus lanes all the way and only takes 15 minutes.....get to see third world driving every day..reminds me of riding thru Istanbul..it must be so easy to get a licence these days.....:yes:
mikemike104
16th October 2010, 13:21
I'm the only person in The Tron who actually stops at a stop sign. Must be 'cause I'm old-fashioned or summat...
Aww naa that's not tru, I do ma very best to stop at all the triangle signs :confused: .. and almost every time cagers are always tooting and waving their fists and middle finger at me. :mad:
Is enough to make me sell the bike and buy a Segway. :lol:
Usarka
16th October 2010, 13:36
Speaking of Segway, evidently the owner of the company drove one of a cliff. Since then sales have hit rock bottom.
spacemonkey
17th October 2010, 11:00
Arrgh I've given up on intersections it's just an insane asylum free for all these days, I just treat everyone else as a homicidal retard and drive ultra defensively.
You pretty well need psychic powers to know what the fucks happening! :angry:
I'm actually surprised that the traffic police haven't started cracking down on this issue.... Must be a goldmine of traffic fines for them??
TimeOut
17th October 2010, 14:47
No more than usual, but we live on a tourist route so we're used to them knowing our rules.
It may actually help when we change
myvice
19th October 2010, 00:26
Yea…
The new rules…
So you’re coming up to an intersection and turning left.
Do you A. Turn left and get T boned by the prat in the bemer who forgot the new rule?
Or B. Get run over by the arse face behind you in a 4WD because he didn’t think you where going to stop?
What was wrong with the old roundabout rule?
If someone is on your right, or already on the roundabout.
Fucking wait for them!
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