Auckland Group Ride - Saturday 11/06/05

[Zed]

Meeting Place: Shell Service Station, Westgate, Auckland.


Destination: Mangawhai Heads for lunch.


Time: 9.45 am to depart at 10.00 am. Should be back in Ak by between 1-2 pm.


Note: Weather permitting. I will not be riding if it’s wet!

Ride at “your own pace” and enjoy!!

I hope to see you there.:wavey:


Zed

[justsomeguy]

Damn........ was looking forward to a ride with you guys.......:yes:

Instead have to go do things at the Targa......:banana:

You have fun and "stay intelligint"

[White trash]

Thanks for the invite, I'll be busy sculling piss though.

Next month (Wohoo!)

[FEINT]

This ride is on the same time and same meeting place as Krayys ride up SH16.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=12897

haha... :D

If the weather is fine, I might come along.....

[Fart]

If the weather is good, I will come for the ride. :yes: :cold:

[Drunken Monkey]

Missed last weeks, will try and make this one!

[bugjuice]

should be able to make this, pending weather..

[Drunken Monkey]

Weather is looking good. Also looking good for the track tomorrow. Got lots of work on, but I might just flag work anyway...

[chickenfunkstar]

I'd love to come but unfortunatly its exam time.
Hope the weather is good for you guys

[Riff Raff]

Darn it all. At 10 oclock when you are all tootling up SH16, think of me and my 2 year old at the civic centre lining up at the Wiggles Concert. Better me some MILF there.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Toot toot something something big red ...... motorbike going past without you on it!

[XTC]

Why are they always on saturdays?......

[Riff Raff]

Toot toot chugga chugga Big Red car, we'll travel near and we'll travel fa...aar,
Ah yes, chugga chugga. Thanks for enlightening me. That was going to be worrying me all afternoon!

[Riff Raff]

Well now it's stuck in your head all afternoon.. he he. its not just me going stir crazy.
Nah I've got the theme tune from the Magic Roundabout going round in my head.

[bugjuice]

b i n go b i n go...
stupid dog

[Zed]

This ride is on the same time and same meeting place as Krayys ride up SH16.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=12897

I know that Mr F, that's why I chose to leave 1/2 an hour later! I also didn't think that joining the rides would be too constructive. :spudguita

[Zed]

Thanks for the invite, I'll be busy sculling piss though.

Next month (Wohoo!)Sorry Trashman, no drunkards allowed on *Auckland* KB rides. :nono:

[Zed]

Why are they always on saturdays?......Are they really? I recall one Sunday recently that there was a large KB ride down to the Coromandel!

What a pity the weekend only consists of 2 days...I'm all for 4 days on 3 days off to ride motorcycles! :Punk:

[bugjuice]

fuk it, the bke gods are against me. stoopid brain forgot about picking up more friends from the UK.. Might try to make it, but not without causing grief. Well if I'm there, I've dissapointed and pissed people off, so it'll be a sweet ride..

here's hopin..

[Grizz]

I don't suppose you want to make it Sunday? I would love to come along but am taking my son to Waitomo on Saturday, if not no worries, there will always be another time.

[Zed]

I don't suppose you want to make it Sunday? I would love to come along but am taking my son to Waitomo on Saturday, if not no worries, there will always be another time.Sorry matey, Sunday is no good for me. You could always start a new thread for a ride on Sunday, sounds like member XTC would be in for starters! :ride:

[Cary]

What a pity the weekend only consists of 2 days...I'm all for 4 days on 3 days off to ride motorcycles! :Punk:

That all you get, XTC & me are 4 on 4 off :2thumbsup

[Zed]

Hey Matt.. see FF organising an afternoon strop down 22 on Saturday as well... suits faster riders, so be good if you came to that as well/instead of... the others can go on Feints ride?Considering I've taken the trouble to create this thread/ride and spark some interest, I'd better stick to my plans and ride North to Mangawhai. If I'd seen Dave's ride before posting my own I would have been riding South this Saturday...:Punk:

[MadDuck]

Perrrfeck. I know I have been saying I need a warrant for a couple of weeks and this Saturday is it!

Would love a potter up 16 as I need to get the cobwebs off so was going to head that way anyways.

Zed if you change your mind and head down 22 with Dave and the faster crew no worries. Theres also Krayys ride to catch up with

[Zed]

Weather is looking good. Also looking good for the track tomorrow. Got lots of work on, but I might just flag work anyway...You still hooked on that track DM! :Punk:

Would be good to catch up with you again this Saturday...it's been a while.

[2_SL0]

Nah I've got the theme tune from the Magic Roundabout going round in my head.


You mean this http://magicroundabout.com/Music/magic.wav

[2_SL0]

fuk it, the bke gods are against me. stoopid brain forgot about picking up more friends from the UK.. Might try to make it, but not without causing grief. Well if I'm there, I've dissapointed and pissed people off, so it'll be a sweet ride..

here's hopin..
lolol nice mentality. :niceone:

[bugjuice]

lolol nice mentality. :niceone:
ta.. truth hurts.. ehhh
you gonna be there?

[Drunken Monkey]

You still hooked on that track DM! :Punk:

Would be good to catch up with you again this Saturday...it's been a while.

Nah, still in 2 minds about the track. Will make my decision after breakfast.

I'll definately be in for a ride with ya. I think Mangawhai sounds fine, I don't fancy spending all day in the saddle south of the Bombays.

[Zed]

I'll definately be in for a ride with ya. I think Mangawhai sounds fine, I don't fancy spending all day in the saddle south of the Bombays.My sentiments too. I'll have to show you where I binned it last year on the road to Mangawhy! :nono:

[2_SL0]

ta.. truth hurts.. ehhh
you gonna be there?

Unfortunately not I have to work that morning. I will prob head out in the early afternoon for a blat round Clevedon, Kawakawa , Miranda etc.

[bugjuice]

guys, mind how you go on this one. Just got one of those stupid feelins about this. The last couple of times, my bro came off and broke his leg, and more recently, swanny crashed out. Just don't be stoopid, k..
Still gonna try to make this... always tryin..

[FEINT]

Hey Matt.. see FF organising an afternoon strop down 22 on Saturday as well... suits faster riders, so be good if you came to that as well/instead of... the others can go on Kray's ride?

Looks like there is only one ride heading up SH16 on Saturday. Krayy has cancelled the "Ride and Ski" ride.

[Zed]

guys, mind how you go on this one. Just got one of those stupid feelins about this. The last couple of times, my bro came off and broke his leg, and more recently, swanny crashed out. Just don't be stoopid, k...I have a fantastic feeling about this ride tomorrow, if the weather outside today is anything to go by!! :sunny:

Kit I appreciate your concerns, but Swanny crashed down on SH22 over 4 weeks ago, & last weeks huge Coro Loop ride was a binless success...did you have a "bad feeling" about that ride too? Sorry mate but it's quite discouraging to hear such comments especially since I'm not superstitious and don't rely on stupid feelings. It might be best for you to stay home if you continue to feel this way...wouldn't want you to *jinx* the ride? :nono:

[Zed]

Hi all, I'm just advising that I'm having trouble with my internet connection 2nite so will probably not be posting anything other than this, so you's have a great night! Be sure that I will be meeting at 9.45 am tomorrow morning at Westgate and looking forward to a very enjoyable 3-4 hour ride in what should be another glorious day like today! :ride: :Punk:

Please contact me on 021 813024 if you feel the need.


Zed

[bugjuice]

I have a fantastic feeling about this ride tomorrow, if the weather outside today is anything to go by!! :sunny:

Kit I appreciate your concerns, but Swanny crashed down on SH22 over 4 weeks ago, & last weeks huge Coro Loop ride was a binless success...did you have a "bad feeling" about that ride too? Sorry mate but it's quite discouraging to hear such comments especially since I'm not superstitious and don't rely on stupid feelings. It might be best for you to stay home if you continue to feel this way...wouldn't want you to *jinx* the ride? :nono:
I'm not superstitious either and I want the ride to continue, and I know swanny crashed out 4 weeks ago (thought it was more actually), and my bro crashed out way back at Christmas. Don't worry about it, I'm sure everything will be fine.. shouldn't have said anything, soz

[Devil]

I'll be coming from the albany direction, so ill be at the corner of old north rd at around 10:15, will catch you guys.

[Zed]

I'm not superstitious either and I want the ride to continue, and I know swanny crashed out 4 weeks ago (thought it was more actually), and my bro crashed out way back at Christmas. Don't worry about it, I'm sure everything will be fine.. shouldn't have said anything, sozFairy nuff then. :niceone: Hope to ride with you tomorrow.

[loosebruce]

, & last weeks huge Coro Loop ride was a binless sucess

#$%* knows how that happened i was trying my hardest.............

Well see how i feel in the morning, at least i'm not up to well past 3am trying to get a bike running this week, plus has been ages since we last rode huh Zed. So hope to catch ya. I should be TL mounted, the ZXR needs a rest after last week, not to mention my legs and back as well.

[Zed]

:sunny::sunny:
:sunny::sunny::sunny:
:sunny::sunny:

:niceone:
...........

[FEINT]

well, the sun is shining ... but it is :cold: :cold: :cold:

will see you guys soon at Shell... :D :D :D

bing your cameras! :Punk: :Punk:

[steved]

A big thanks to all on the ride. Very enjoyable piece of road for a noob like me.

[Fart]

What an awesome day. Wish I could join you guys. :mad:

[loosebruce]

Yea the morning got the better of me today :no: next week though :ride:
Hope ya'll had a good one.

Have to catch up real soon Zed, i might have something that'll give ya bird a run in a straightline soon :devil2:

[Drunken Monkey]

Aye you missed out Pizza boy.
It was an excellent day for a ride. Big ups to Zed for organising the ride & the weather. It was about as many km's as I could handle after being away for a while - was getting a bit sore on the final stint through town. Managed to get back in time for my soccer game too.

[MikeL]

Awesome ride. Thanks Matt, for organizing it, and thanks Roger for the company on the return (little detour via Waipu and the Brynderwyns...)

[FEINT]

Fantastic day of riding! A bit tired on the way back though. Sore neck and sore wrists... getting old.... :whistle:

A big thanks to ZED for organising the ride. :niceone: :niceone:

HEre are the photos of the day!


Mr ZED the organiser!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/feintnz/north01.jpg
636 gathering
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/feintnz/north02.jpg
Super BLACKBIRD
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/feintnz/north03.jpg
Sightseeing.... just outside of Wellsford
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/feintnz/north04.jpg
Bikes at wellsford
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/feintnz/north05.jpg

[FEINT]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/feintnz/north06.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/feintnz/north07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/feintnz/north08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/feintnz/north09.jpg
Mr Skids old bike, now riden by STEVED.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/feintnz/north10.jpg

[mv.senna]

cheers for organising the ride and the weather. was a great day. had fun once again doing battle with NhuanH in the corners....just wish he'd hurry up a bit! :yes: ...just kidding :niceone:

[limmy]

thanks to zed for the ride. i had a good time.

Also thanks to everyone that helped me. just went to the a&e and doc said i just have a pulled muscle. no biggie. but i think i'll milk a couple of days off from work next week anyways :yes:

[Zed]

Yea the morning got the better of me today :no: next week though :ride:
Hope ya'll had a good one.Missed you ya slacker!


Have to catch up real soon Zed, i might have something that'll give ya bird a run in a straightline soon :devil2:I'd welcome the challenge mate! :ride:

[MadDuck]

Great pics Feint and good to see Limmy a ok :niceone:

Was an awesome days riding given I havent been on the bike for a month. Cheers Zed champion for making sure we all had a great day. Damn that photo makes you look kinda mean though :rofl:

[Zed]

Well my phone line at home has crashed out leaving me without internet access so currently I'm in an Ak City Net Cafe typing this...I wish my connection was this quick & responsive at home!! :no:

I thoroughly & absolutely enjoyed today's ride up to Maungawhai with about 12 other keen bikers. We had 11 start from Westgate, Mr devil was waiting for us on Old North Rd (new leathers look good man!), and a stranger joined us on his Gixxer600 Alstare Corona from Wellsford. The weather was just right with enuf clouds to hold back the sunstrike:sunny:, and the temperature was nice and cool! :)

We had three stops - Kaukapkapa, Wellsford, and Mangawhai for lunch. After Mangawhai the group basically broke up, 3 headed off further up north, some left early back for the big smoke, leaving the last 5 of us to cruise back via the same route we came up on. Things ended up where it was just Drunken Monkey and I riding together back as far as Kaukop where he turned left towards Silverdale (glad you made the soccer game Alan!), I ended up riding solo back from there to home. What I found interesting was that my "own pace" is actually faster than I rode during the whole group ride...I guess all this talk on KB about group rides has subdued me somewhat when riding with others!!

Anyway, thanks for the pleasant company everyone who turned up, let's do it again real soon eh! :Punk:

Ps. My rider of the day goes to mv-senna (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=3011). You haul that CBR600 gurl!!


Zed

My Photos (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=246)

[MadDuck]

Great effort on the pics and being not at home. Turns out the chap on the Alstare lives one street away from me on the Peninsula.

Small world and maybe he will join the site real soon. Or I will hunt him down :Punk:

As for me I thought I was doing quite well but it was kinda a fast bunch. Having not been on the bike for a while (ok I know I said that b4) it was awesome to have no pressure to try and keep up. The roads were awesome and the company was kinda ok :whistle:

It felt like KB used to be. Damn shame about the Posties :mad:

[Zed]

Great effort on the pics and being not at home.Thanks, those memory sticks are the 'bees knees' when you need em!


Turns out the chap on the Alstare lives one street away from me on the Peninsula. Small world and maybe he will join the site real soon. Or I will hunt him down :Punk: I suggested to him to look up the site and join, likewise I said to the youngin' riding Mr Skids old CBR250.


Damn shame about the Posties :mad:Hmmmm :shit:

[MacD]

Thanks for organising the ride Zed and for posting the pics! I had a great time :niceone:

[Zed]

What happened to LimmY????Limmy, Feint, and MadDuck left Mangawhai Heads early cos the boys wanted to get to Cycletreads/Cyclespot? before it closed. On their way back along Mangawhai Rd, just passed where i binned last year, poor old Limmy had an encounter with a postal van which landed him & his bike in the ditch. :nono:

[Ixion]

Ahh so there you go.... good to see you guys almost covered up the incident. MadDuck.. let the cat out.! And ZED.. you must be spending a fortune at the internet cafe.. you been there for ages.

Cat ? Mr tonyb could use that cat.

[Zed]

And ZED.. you must be spending a fortune at the internet cafe.. you been there for ages.$2 per hour! Spent 1 1/2 hrs there, am now home with only 1 min spurts of internet time available. :no:

[Ixion]

[Sigh]. Nana could make sarcastic comments about it not being a peoper KB ride unless someone crashs. :nono:

But Nana thinks that the point has been done to death (no pun intended) and noone wants to hear now. :whocares:

Nana fears that the message isn't going to go through until we have another funeral to go to. :no:

[Zapf]

Bugger.. now he will have to devise a scheming Cat trap to get the cat back that Madduck let out the bag.. to catch the mouse that the milk bottle let out after a hole got chewed in it.

talk to Felix he might have a plan for you..

[Zapf]

[Sigh]. Nana could make sarcastic comments about it not being a peoper KB ride unless someone crashs. :nono:

But Nana thinks that the point has been done to death (no pun intended) and noone wants to hear now. :whocares:

Nana fears that the message isn't going to go through until we have another funeral to go to. :no:

some people don't listen and there is not a whole lot you can do.... its up to fate at the end of the day.... if they are destined to live then they do... one way or another it has a way of finding you.

[NhuanH]

Thanks all for a great ride!

Big ups to:
Zed: organiser extraordinaire. I agree, your special "connections" came through with the weather. You keep that hot line open with the big guy this morning Matt :D
mv-senna: handing out a :ride: learnin'. That stuff is helpful to a slow ass mutha like me.
MacD: provided a well appreciated transportation solution :2thumbsup
steved: enjoying the first (of many?) group rides :niceone:

Limmy, keep it cool :Punk: Just let me know if you need any help fulla.

And Ixion/Zapf: I have consciously avoided wading in with comments on rides that I have not been on. Might work for you chaps in this situation too. Especially comments of your doomsday nature.

I can assure you the circumstances were different to what caused the kerfuffle a few weeks back, from the reports/evidence from that ride and what I saw on this ride. Yes, it was at the wrong end of desirable results, but it happened well away from the group ride environment (if that's what you were hinting at), and is the sort of thing a lot of riders could have done riding solo.

My view was that the riders on this ride were all having a good time enjoying precious dry roads in June. There wasn't this fatalistic irresponsible mindset you two are suggesting.

:done:

[Ixion]

..
And Ixion/Zapf: I have consciously avoided wading in with comments on rides that I have not been on. Might work for you chaps in this situation too. Especially comments of your doomsday nature.
.. There wasn't this fatalistic irresponsible mindset you two are suggesting.

:done:

The remarkable propensity for crashs is one reason why I don't go on such rides. Every time a biker crashs there is the risk of a dead biker. And every dead biker diminishes all of us. And gives the anti-biker brigade more ammunition for further restrictions .

I've not suggested any mindset. Just that crashing on the public road is a bad thing. Always

Don't think I'm ever going to get the sports bikers to agree on that though.

As to the argument that anyone that wasn't along has no right to deplore the fact that someones life was endangered.- bullshit.

[James Deuce]

(snip)

Don't think I'm ever going to get the sports bikers to agree on that though.

(snip)
Nice broad sweeping statement there.

[Devil]

Had a nice little cruise. Wasn't in a racey mood, I was happily tootling along at the speed limit...until I got to those twisty little hills 10 mins before wellsford *cough* :whistle:

Time for some new tyres though.

[Zed]

[Sigh]. Nana could make sarcastic comments about it not being a peoper KB ride unless someone crashs. :nono:

But Nana thinks that the point has been done to death (no pun intended) and noone wants to hear now. :whocares:

Nana fears that the message isn't going to go through until we have another funeral to go to. :no:Nana's comments are not welcomed, for they are just causing unecessary misunderstandings within the KB community!

If you choose not to participate on any KB group rides Ixion that's fine, but don't think you have the liberty to make comment on them as though you know what you're talking about.

If you really thought that "no-one wanted to hear" why did you post it? I think you knew you would cause a stir here [Edit: But maybe you didn't know?]. :no:

Let's not have a debate about this please. I intend organising more of these rides and don't want KBer's being put off.


Zed

[FEINT]

The remarkable propensity for crashs is one reason why I don't go on such rides. Every time a biker crashs there is the risk of a dead biker. And every dead biker diminishes all of us. And gives the anti-biker brigade more ammunition for further restrictions .

I've not suggested any mindset. Just that crashing on the public road is a bad thing. Always

Don't think I'm ever going to get the sports bikers to agree on that though.

As to the argument that anyone that wasn't along has no right to deplore the fact that someones life was endangered.- bullshit.

A biker will crash even though it isn't an organised ride. To prove this, there was only myself and Limmy on that stretch. The rest of the fellas were eating their lunch. So it wasn't about pace and all that other crap that has been covered. We know the risk of riding bikes and this is just part of it.



[Sigh]. Nana could make sarcastic comments about it not being a peoper KB ride unless someone crashs.


When this happened, the ride already dissolved. There were only 2 bikes. Myself and Limmy. Organised ride or not, it happened. I don't think it is fair to blame KB rides for accidents. I usually only ride on the weekend if there is a KB ride, so chances are, if anything was to happen it would be then.
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Those who have called him, his phone is broken. He is okk :D Limmy, post to say you are ok!

MacD thanks for pillioning Limmy. I couldn't do it as I don't have any pillioning experience.......

Zed, it was a great ride, thanks for organising it. Look forward to the next one.

Nice meeting a few new faces: MV-Senna (nurse skills came in handy now didn't they? and that CBR600 can FLY), STEVED (remember to buckle your helmet hahahaha) and meeting the old faces, you know who you are!

Ride safe!! :D

[limmy]

Nana's comments are not welcomed, for they are just causing unecessary misunderstandings within the KB community!

If you choose not to participate on any KB group rides Ixion that's fine, but don't think you have the liberty to make comment on them as though you know what you're talking about.

If you really thought that "no-one wanted the hear" why did you post it? I think you knew you would cause a stir here. :no:

Let's not have a debate about this please. I intend organising more of these rides and don't want KBer's being put off.


Zed

i think this is just one of those cases where people only remember the bad things that happen. We have tons of group rides and they usually go very well. So I think we should all calm down and focus on the good things in life.

This is a forum and everybody can see what you type. So some thoughts are best left unspoken. It is obvious nobody goes out with the aim to crash but it happens. AND by that I mean it happens even if you ride slow and careful. In this case the only way i would have avoided the van was if i was going at 50km/h and we all know there is no chance at all that anyone would be going that slow on the open road.

Anyway...the ride is has ended. everyone is happy. don't think we need anymore comments bout anything else really.

ps: thanks mv-senna. u ride a good pace.

[Fart]

i think this is just one of those cases where people only remember the bad things that happen. We have tons of group rides and they usually go very well. So I think we should all calm down and focus on the good things in life.

This is a forum and everybody can see what you type. So some thoughts are best left unspoken. It is obvious nobody goes out with the aim to crash but it happens. AND by that I mean it happens even if you ride slow and careful. In this case the only way i would have avoided the van was if i was going at 50km/h and we all know there is no chance at all that anyone would be going that slow on the open road.

Anyway...the ride is has ended. everyone is happy. don't think we need anymore comments bout anything else really.

ps: thanks mv-senna. u ride a good pace.


Good to see you are ok mate. :niceone:

Take you out for a piss up next weekend. Drink all the pain away. :drinkup: :Punk:

[mv.senna]

...good on you for not coming on the kb rides.

maybe we've misjudged you or misinterpreted your statements, but, if those negative, judgemental, and hugely inacurate sweeping statements are any indication of the type of person you are, i don't think you'd be welcomed on the rides anyway..... :weird:

my nana always taught me to stfu, and myofb unless you actually know what you're talking about. i recommend that you take this advice, and the feedback you've received from the other members throughout this thread, (who actually were present on this ride) and ask yourself some truthful questions....including why you even bother logging into this site, as you clearly don't want to participate on the rides, and you come across in the forums as a negative, narrow minded troublemaker.

sincere regards
mv-senna

[Zed]

i think this is just one of those cases where people only remember the bad things that happen. We have tons of group rides and they usually go very well. So I think we should all calm down and focus on the good things in life.

This is a forum and everybody can see what you type. So some thoughts are best left unspoken. It is obvious nobody goes out with the aim to crash but it happens. AND by that I mean it happens even if you ride slow and careful. In this case the only way i would have avoided the van was if i was going at 50km/h and we all know there is no chance at all that anyone would be going that slow on the open road.

Anyway...the ride is has ended. everyone is happy. don't think we need anymore comments bout anything else really.

ps: thanks mv-senna. u ride a good pace.Hey limmy, what's this rubbish you told me twice yesterday about you "being a man of few words on KB"? That post was a pretty good effort. :msn-wink:

Keep us updated with your progress as you get back on two wheels again. :niceone:

[MadDuck]

Bugger.. now he will have to devise a scheming Cat trap to get the cat back that Madduck let out the bag.. to catch the mouse that the milk bottle let out after a hole got chewed in it.

OI! I object profusely that the Duck let the cat out of the mouse trap or bag with a hole in it...ohh whatever :oi-grr:

Limmy posted before me that he had been to A&E and was ok else I would have kept my mouth shut. Honest I would :whistle:

[Zed]

...and ask yourself some truthful questions....including why you even bother logging into this site, as you clearly don't want to participate on the rides, and you come across in the forums as a negative, narrow minded troublemaker.Mv-senna, I sure enjoyed our riding yesterday, it was good meeting you! :Punk:

MV, what you type & post is your choice, but please stick around on KB for at least 200 posts before you assassinate the character of one of the senior members here. I didn't mean to encourage such attacks on Ixion's character, he really doesn't deserve that.

Also, KB rides are an *addition* to this website. People were nattering on these forums for ages before they started getting together on rides. I've got no problem with anti-social members not turning up to any meetings & events! :msn-wink:

[ajturbo]

Great effort on the pics and being not at home. Turns out the chap on the Alstare lives one street away from me on the Peninsula.

Small world and maybe he will join the site real soon. Or I will hunt him down :Punk:

As for me I thought I was doing quite well but it was kinda a fast bunch. Having not been on the bike for a while (ok I know I said that b4) it was awesome to have no pressure to try and keep up. The roads were awesome and the company was kinda ok :whistle:

It felt like KB used to be. Damn shame about the Posties :mad:

hey good to see you broke out of the house!!!:Punk:

[Mr Skid]

I think everybody who has contributed so far has made valid points.

I think we all acknowledge that crashes are bad, and that they can have real and serious consequences.

What does concern me is that, in my mind, it's becoming difficult to engage in free and frank discussion about them.

The derisive remarks offered in response to reports of a crash serve to discourage riders from admitting that they had an accident.

This, in my mind reduces the chances of them realising (with the assistance of more experienced members) what they did wrong, and prevent others from learning from their mistakes.

What are you thoughts about how to address the issue?

[bugjuice]

bugger.. i miss riding.. wish i had caught up on this one..

Lim, sux mate, that you crashed out. Feint text me to fill me in a bit, sounds nasty, but glad you're ok, and sounds like it's just bad luck rather than bad riding, so good on ya there.

The fact that people crash/bin is just that. Doesn't matter where you are or who you're with, it's the unfortunate nature of the beast that we have to ride with. If you crash, you crash. Doesn't matter if you're by yourself or with a hundred other bikes. Shit happens. Deal with it, move it on. Everyone knows to ride within their limits, if they can't, then that's for them to deal with or make do with the consequences. It's nothing to do with KB, fellow KBers, the road or any individual. It's been that way, it is that way, it'll stay that way. If you have an issue with this, then perhaps KB isn't the best place for you, cos we all love our bikes and we all love meeting up and riding together, cos if we don't stick together and help each other out when we all need it, being the KB family we are, then where's the fun?

In the 6 months I've been with KB, I've fukin loved every minute of it, and everything that's done with the people and events. For those that think the rides are prone to crashes, well that's the wrong negative attitude, and it's not the best place here, cos we're all fun lovin bikers. There's hundreds of threads on crashes, attitude problems, expectations, boycots etc etc, we just need to move on out of that and get on with biking. Else everyone is just gonna get sick of talking about the same shit on here, sell the bike(s) and just go off on your own thing. Still got the same chances of crashing even then. Personally, I hope I never crash. I've been with my brother every second of his accident, and I'm glad I was there for him, rather than being alone. That was shit to see him with his foot up by his knee, but I can't imagine being there alone. And that was before I even knew anything about KB.

So for all those who want to come here and be negative posting about 'crashing' and 'speeding' and 'anti-cop' behaviour etc etc blah blah, thanx, but please kindly fuck off. we all learn from our own and others' mistakes. We don't need people clogging up valuable stories with negative shit in the middle, cos then it takes to focus off the real issue of the post.

/rant.

[James Deuce]

(snip)
So for all those who want to come here and be negative posting about 'crashing' and 'speeding' and 'anti-cop' behaviour etc etc blah blah, thanx, but please kindly fuck off. we all learn from our own and others' mistakes. We don't need people clogging up valuable stories with negative shit in the middle, cos then it takes to focus off the real issue of the post.

/rant.

It might be a rant, but I'm getting a bit tired of the fact that no one should DARE hold a counter view, particularly one that holds bikers in a bad light.

The point that the "negative" people are trying to make is that people DON'T seem to learn from their mistakes, and that there has been a great deal of schoolboy sniggering about "accidents" in the recent past, like it's some kind of joke. Every time a biker gets hurt it adds to a collective pot of anti-biker ill will that results in increased costs to register a bike. I get to pay more money to enjoy my hobby because someone fell off and broke their wrist/ankle/collar bone/damn fool neck like I did. Every injury accident I've had I haven't gone, "Ooo great ACC will pick up the pieces", I've lamented the fact to myself that I was stupid enough to get myself involved in a situation where I hurt myself and now everybody I like to hang out with gets to pay for it through a Government mandated insurance system.

Motorcycling has risks and we have to accept them.... Hang on a minute, no we bloody don't. We should be trying to shorten the odds, not making excuses for falling off, buggering someone's day off, and generally making life hard for yourself. We should be cataloguing our collective mistakes, celebrating the fact that whoever crashed was BRAVE enough to tell everyone else (a sure sign of gheyness in NZ "machismo" society) what they did wrong. Instead we seem to be heading down the track of lightly glossing over one of the best resources to help other people avoid the same problems. So that the "negative" people won;t be mean to the n00bs/It-Wasn't-My-Fault/I-Have-NO-Idea-WTF-Happened-And-Gee-Did-You_see-That-And-Wasn't-It-Funny brigade.

Very few people on this site ask themselves how they contributed to their accident. When it is suggested that they do, the suggestor, who has usually had to learn THAT lesson the hard way, gets told, and I quote without revealing the original poster, "you can go and fuck off".

Is that what you want? Should we "negative" people who are pressuring you guys to higher levels of personal understanding and responsibility "fuck off"? I'm not "fucking off" BECAUSE I'M NOT LETTING YOU LOT RUIN MY FAVOURITE THING.

Mr Skid said it -"Free and frank discussion". Anything else is censorship. If you can't handle the criticism, don't fall off.

[bugjuice]

it's not the crit that I'm on about, or the people that are man enough (not ghay) to say, yeah, I fukt up, and this is what happened...... blah blah. 'kin good on 'em, and I give them a ton of green rep. That's not the 'negative' I'm on about, nor those who offer advice or comment on it.

The people who I can't stand are those who I see as 'negative' by constantly dragging up the past and bang on about how to ride. Yeah, say what you mean, give advice but the broken record thing can be a bit choking in the forum. You can take a horse to water... but you can't drown it in the sea of what's been said before.

It's just the people who say 'those KB rides always end in tears' that are the negative ones, cos most often, they haven't been on a ride to comment, and add no value to the thread. All the rides I've been on have been more for the social aspect and experiance from other riders.

I'm with you, Jim. We should all be learning, we shouldn't gloss over things, and definately shouldn't think that any bin is funny. Nothing like that is funny. period. This place is a place to talk about what happened in the accident, how you'd do it differently, see how other people acted in that situation etc. That's no negative. That's what we need to learn about. Those comments are hopefully what the poor bugger who crashed, should be taking on board. It's the people who start saying the irrelivant stuff that we don't want to read about, and repeat things that have been said a million times before about something complete unrelated to the topic. It's all becoming the same thing. The comments should contribute, not slag off. If that person who crashed out, doesn't take the positive crit on board, then what can you do about it? nothing. That's their problem, you can't shove it down their throat, cos they won't listen like that. If people aren't taking in what's being said, then they will learn the hard way, just have to hope it's not too hard.

I think you might have taken my comments slightly wrong, but I see your point. I'm not against the construcitve negative stuff (as nasty as some can be), but it's just the pointless negative repetitive stuff we can do without. You have to want to learn from your experiance, else you won't learn period. Life is about learning, no matter what

[FEINT]

I agree with the both on you on learning from mistakes. But why do we have so many people yapping away at a bin? Just because one person bins, why does the thread become seperated by two groups of people?

In this instance, it wasn't bad riding, but wrong place wrong time. So there is nothing more to post on.

I disagree with some of the comments posted about what should have been done, how it should have been done etc.... there was nothing that could have been done.

Enough of this.... Why can't a ride just be ride?

My point probably is, lim has already had a bad day. If I was him, I wouldn't want to come on to KB and read all this negative stuff about the bin. He isn't too upset, i don't know why we all are.

[Fart]

I think that everyone who buys a bike knows that there is a certain high risk factor. A bike pushes our adrenline and our ego more than a car. Why else would we buy one?

A debate is good, but negative and person attacks are not. So, keep it clean and sweet to the point guys. :wait:

[limmy]

hehe. i think everyone is getting too worked up about something that happens to just about every biker on the thread. i recon we should close the thread and call it a day. :niceone:

[FEINT]

hehe. i think everyone is getting too worked up about something that happens to just about every biker on the thread. i recon we should close the thread and call it a day. :niceone:


you should be proud, i saw you do a rolling stoppie!!!!!!

[bugjuice]

you should be proud, i saw you do a rolling stoppie!!!!!!
lamo... wish I had seen that!!

Good on ya Lim, hope you're sorted out soon. Let me know if I can help you out anywhere (sorry, can't borrow the 636 tho...)

[White trash]

If you can't handle the criticism, don't fall off.

i did a wheelie and fell off one day.

You critisizing me, pal?!

[bugjuice]

i did a wheelie and fell off one day.

You critisizing me, pal?!
you're crap then, aren't you?





pt

[White trash]

you're crap then, aren't you?





pt

Obviously.

[James Deuce]

i did a wheelie and fell off one day.

You critisizing me, pal?!

Oath! But only because your twig like stature presents no threat whatsoever.

Bugjuice - sorry dude - I did read that wrong. Hope you can forgive me.

[White trash]

Oath! But only because your twig like stature presents no threat whatsoever.


That right? Well you've obviously never seen a Gixxer 1K, spinning out of control, on its side down the motorway towards you at 100mph. Bloody hard buggers to dodge, them.

[bugjuice]

Bugjuice - sorry dude - I did read that wrong. Hope you can forgive me.
already forgotten dude :niceone:

[MadDuck]

I have absolutely NO problem with people on the forums having an opinion either way about anything. Its what makes the site alive and a lot fun and a place to learn.

BUT here was a thread about what a brilliant time we had on a ride. Can we not just put our personal opinions in the "Rave on" or summit thread as the loudest ideas (opinions) have come from people that werent on the ride. It kinda put a dampner on the whole day reading this tonight.

I for one will go on the next KB ride (if its for slow snails like me) no worries. Like Limmy said "time to call it a day and close the thread".

[Zed]

That right? Well you've obviously never seen a Gixxer 1K, spinning out of control, on its side down the motorway towards you at 100mph. Bloody hard buggers to dodge, them.Let all Aucklanders beware!! :whistle: