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R-Soul
19th October 2010, 13:22
by all acounts 200PS WITHOUT ram air power increase... putting 10 hp more and 6kg less on teh BMW S1000R

Weight all up 198kg, giving incredible power to weight ratios around 1.1.

and traction control and ABS...

The Japs have upped the ante again... awesome!!! Cant wait for the Honda/Suzi/Yammie offerigs after this... :corn:


http://www.gizmag.com/2011-kawasaki-zx10r-zx-10r-ninja/16596/

sil3nt
19th October 2010, 13:37
Will be interesting seeing what the others bring out. But as no one has ridden the kwaka yet its impossible to tell how it will shape up against the BMW as a road bike.

EJK
19th October 2010, 13:51
How much? $30k+?

R-Soul
19th October 2010, 14:12
How much? $30k+?

They were quoting 11,500 POUNDS on MCN.

ducatilover
19th October 2010, 14:24
Can't wait for a dyno/track shoot out! We have all seen some "power figures" posted by Kwaka before that didn't quite correlate to more power than the rest...
Haven't come that far from the Gixxer K5 in terms of oomph, with the exception of the CBR and it's stupendous torque curve.

White trash
19th October 2010, 15:29
All figures are quoted by Kumandsukme and should therefore be taken with a fucking big grain of salt.

The thing that impressed me about the S1000R, is there was far less pre-release hype regarding who's arees it was about to kick. In true BMW fashion, they slipped the thing into the market and all of a sudden you've got a bike that under promised and over delivered. Wish all the manufacturers had the same approach.

Where's my pipe and slippers......

cowboyz
19th October 2010, 15:47
it does look awesome...

now those that know me know I am pretty loyal to kawasaki. id rather be lookng good than fast but finally it looks like kwaka might be doing something! Will be awesome what others are going to bring to the table now.

comments are ummmm.. interesting???

How about getting rid of the antique chain drive for a nice belt.


ejbisch
- October 10, 2010 @ 11:10 am CDT

This is awesome, but I wish it was a twin. They sound so great.


David Maguire
- October 8, 2010 @ 09:10 am CDT

americans?!!? FFS!

trailblazer
19th October 2010, 20:01
nice looking bike. Now where to find the coin to get one.

CHOPPA
20th October 2010, 06:40
200hp at the wheel? Yeah na

S1000RR is more then 200hp at the crank

R-Soul
20th October 2010, 13:42
200hp at the wheel? Yeah na

S1000RR is more then 200hp at the crank

BMW claim 193 at the crank.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/bmw/2010-bmw-s1000rr-review-88974.html

That prolly equates to about 180 at the back wheel.


Kawa claim 200 at the crank without ram air - which would increase it to (about)
210
Not sure what ram air does to BMW?

EDIT: It depends on whether they are using metric HP (PS, 735.5 W), which are slightly smaller than British HP (745.7 W) .
Prolly better to compare in kilowatts...

R-Soul
20th October 2010, 13:44
I would be interested to read the road tests to see what the actual handling is like. Its all fine and well having a monster engine and fancy electronics, but if it handles like a dog, who cares?

Look how far Honda has gone (BOTY for two years) with an engine that is not high powered by any standards.

R-Soul
20th October 2010, 13:54
OK here are true figures:

BMW - 142 kW (193 hp) with overall weight of 204 kg (450 lb) including fuel
Kwakka - 147.1kw (197hp) with overall weight of 198kg including fuel

figures without ram air

White trash
20th October 2010, 13:57
OK here are true figures:

BMW - 142 kW (193 hp) with overall weight of 204 kg (450 lb) including fuel
Kwakka - 147.1kw (197hp) with overall weight of 198kg including fuel

figures without ram air

Claimed by the manufacturers

Owl
20th October 2010, 16:52
Claimed by the manufacturers

They wouldn't lie:shit:

:whistle:

ducatilover
20th October 2010, 18:24
Didn't kwaka claim 200hp in 07 with ram air? I do recall 162-165hp on dyno tests? Similar to the gixxer K5.
The tests done on the S1000RR are so widely varied you don't know what to believe. :facepalm:

I really hope this new 10R is making that kind of grunt though, it will give Hoonduh/zuki and yammy a kick in the pink bits.

robo555
21st October 2010, 09:43
198kg full of fuel and fluids, so why is their 2011 Ninja 400R 203kg? :blink:

R-Soul
21st October 2010, 10:31
198kg full of fuel and fluids, so why is their 2011 Ninja 400R 203kg? :blink:

Because they did not spend an additional $20k on titanium bits?

bogan
21st October 2010, 10:53
Didn't kwaka claim 200hp in 07 with ram air? I do recall 162-165hp on dyno tests? Similar to the gixxer K5.
The tests done on the S1000RR are so widely varied you don't know what to believe. :facepalm:

I really hope this new 10R is making that kind of grunt though, it will give Hoonduh/zuki and yammy a kick in the pink bits.

ahh, but the others are perhaps smarter. Consider the target markets here, ZX10r is pretty popular with the marine cephalopods. Giving them 200hp to play with is likely going to reduce their market size. While the rest continue to sell heaps of bikes, and BMW continues to kick ass with fancy elecity bits :bleh:

ducatilover
21st October 2010, 14:36
ahh, but the others are perhaps smarter. Consider the target markets here, ZX10r is pretty popular with the marine cephalopods. Giving them 200hp to play with is likely going to reduce their market size. While the rest continue to sell heaps of bikes, and BMW continues to kick ass with fancy elecity bits :bleh:

How eloquent! You are saying of course, Kwaka owners are wet behind the ears? Or are actually of the molluscan class? :drinkup::drinkup: Cephalapods have been around for, what, 450 million years? I imagine they were buddies with the hill billies.

nodrog
9th November 2010, 12:47
I see kawasaki New Zealand has now finally listed it on their website, but with no price as yet.

Fanny

sil3nt
13th November 2010, 15:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj8QcBNEgGk&feature=fvst

carbonhed
21st November 2010, 17:39
There ya go..

http://www.ashonbikes.com/content/kawasaki-zx-10r-ninja-2011-review

theblackbandit
1st December 2010, 08:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDPP8BMVL_w

sil3nt
1st December 2010, 10:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnoPVaS9Sl4

Dschubba
3rd December 2010, 09:54
im sure its got oodles but...

Kawa NZ page shows the 2011 ZX10R 188ps ($26495)
the 2010 model claimed 200ps... so the new ones got less power than the old one

...but the abs model got 209.9ps

...further to that
Some of the local Kawa dealers have decided not to get the non abs versions, wondering who would buy them, being down on HP from last year.
Turns out that they may have been some American spec units.
Shops are waiting for the full power ABS versions.

Maybe some good deals on the low power units later?

Shaun P
12th December 2010, 15:40
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Dec/101211kaw.htm

2011 NINJA ZX-10R ON TECHNICAL HOLD

IRVINE, Calif. (Dec. 11, 2010)

Kawasaki Motors Corp., U.S.A. is placing a technical hold on the 2011 NinjaŽ ZXTM-10R sportbike. The company is proactively addressing a remedy which reflects Kawasaki's commitment to excellence and its relationships with its highly valued customers and dealer network.

The following actions are being initiated through the Kawasaki dealer network:

Unsold units will be returned to KMC warehouses. The units will be redistributed once Kawasaki is 100 percent confident they reflect company standards for this
highly technical, race-bred machine.

Those who have taken delivery of a unit will be instructed to return the unit to the dealership for a full refund and will be among the first to have the option of receiving a new unit once the technical hold has been lifted.

pritch
13th December 2010, 22:07
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-news/kawasaki-usa-recalls-all-2011-zx-10rs/16360.html

White trash
14th December 2010, 07:07
The fact that it's such a total recall/refund and details are non-existant would indicate that it's a potentially catasrophic fault that could seriously harm Kawasaki's reputation and image.

Must be some details somewhere for Christs sake.

Reckless
14th December 2010, 07:50
The fact that it's such a total recall/refund and details are non-existant would indicate that it's a potentially catasrophic fault that could seriously harm Kawasaki's reputation and image.

Must be some details somewhere for Christs sake.

Yeh me to Mr Trash, love to know what they cocked up! Very embarrassing for them even if we never find out!
Being a Kawasaki man I was hoping this bike would elevate them to a higher level in the racing arena and we'd have another serious competitor up the sharp end after many years out of the top 6.
A full refund that's more than a glitch in the software even a major engine fault could be fixed at the dealers?
My wild guess is the frames started cracking somewhere and the bikes need re manufacturing??


EDIT: oooppps wrong this guys been told Engine problem http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.php?t=96728

merv
14th December 2010, 12:25
My mother always said never buy anything green, sounds like she was right :yes:

Elysium
18th December 2010, 22:03
Well at least the exhaust isn't as ugly as last years.

sil3nt
26th December 2010, 10:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Peft3Y7TzRQ&feature=player_embedded

Smiff-ta
6th January 2011, 08:07
Advertised in the lastest Motorcycle trader for $27,745 ride away. Yikes.

Thats like $3000-4000 more than a Yammy or Suzi

sil3nt
6th January 2011, 08:42
This was the problem they had http://www.sportrider.com/news/146_1012_2011_kawasaki_ninja_zx10r_technical_hold_ to_be_lifted_in_january/index.html

Reckless
6th January 2011, 08:53
This was the problem they had http://zx-10r.net/store/temp/KMC10R122910_6F.jpg

The link doesn't work for me? If its a .jpg copy it and paste it to the thread. Cheers!

sil3nt
6th January 2011, 09:20
The link doesn't work for me? If its a .jpg copy it and paste it to the thread. Cheers!Linked to website with same info instead.

SPman
10th January 2011, 14:41
Saw one yesterday at our local breakfast ride destination - all in black - they look a lot better in the metal, than the photos. Very impressive - I like.

fatzx10r
4th March 2011, 13:10
does anyone know if we get the full hp model, or do we get the waterd down U.S version?

scott411
4th March 2011, 13:52
does anyone know if we get the full hp model, or do we get the waterd down U.S version?

we get both,

the full hp model with ABS is RRP $28995,

the normal spec is $26495

Crasherfromwayback
4th March 2011, 13:57
I think it looks 100% horn! Especially in race trim!!!

fatzx10r
4th March 2011, 14:13
we get both,

the full hp model with ABS is RRP $28995,

the normal spec is $26495

bugger, i should of orderd the abs model. i'll have to find a way around that damn revlimiter :doh:

sil3nt
4th March 2011, 14:59
bugger, i should of orderd the abs model. i'll have to find a way around that damn revlimiter :doh:Its been done so don't worry too much.

This fella has messed around with his 2011 ZX10 quite a bit http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/member.php?u=4111

fatzx10r
4th March 2011, 15:02
Its been done so don't worry too much.

This fella has messed around with his 2011 ZX10 quite a bit http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/member.php?u=4111

cheers man, i've sent him a pm already. hope he has some good info.

fatzx10r
4th March 2011, 19:41
easy fix from the sounds of it, remove the secondary butterflies and exhuast valve. add a pc and a slipon and your all go :niceone:

fatzx10r
25th March 2011, 01:47
picked up my new zx tonight, so havnt had a chance to put many km's on the clock yet. but im lovin this bike already, cant compare the old zx with the new. it feels so much more planted in the front end, good feedback and turns in with no effort. riding position is good, the bike feels small but i dont feel hunched up on it (mind you im a short/fat arse) the engine and gearbox are smooth. cant wait to get a few more kays on the clock tp free up the motor and start giving it more herbs :love:

Pussy
13th April 2011, 21:18
Was fortunate enough to get a ride on the full power Euro spec one that's doing the rounds as a demo bike. VERY nice. Very refined! Will post my impressions presently

MD
22nd April 2011, 10:28
Was fortunate enough to get a ride on the full power Euro spec one that's doing the rounds as a demo bike. VERY nice. Very refined! Will post my impressions presently

Did the same, rode the demo that was on tour. Only a short ride though.

1st and 2nd seemed far too high geared but that's an easy fix. Quite a jolt when you go from closed to open throttle. Other than that it's light years better than the old xz10r.
I also tried the zx10sx thingy.

DMNTD
10th June 2011, 07:31
Was fortunate enough to get a ride on the full power Euro spec one that's doing the rounds as a demo bike. VERY nice. Very refined! Will post my impressions presently

Tell all oh Masterful One

imdying
10th June 2011, 09:19
Was fortunate enough to get a ride on the full power Euro spec one that's doing the rounds as a demo bike.Does that imply that the ones sold here will be restricted?

Nonbeliever
10th June 2011, 09:40
Does that imply that the ones sold here will be restricted?

I may be wrong (Im not often) but I believe all the o6-010 10r's in NZ were canadian spec which were restricted.

MD
10th June 2011, 13:29
I may be wrong (Im not often) but I believe all the o6-010 10r's in NZ were canadian spec which were restricted.

That was correct for the ZX636. NZ received the same stock destined for North America which were limited in top end revs compared to Europe spec. There was a quick and easy fix for the 636 and I can confirm it DID make a noticeable improvement.

I've heard that the new ZX10R arriving now are the unrestricted versions.
I had a full tit blast on a just run in 2011 ZX10R recently, going right through the gears to redline was awesome. Certainly a big improvement on the previous model.

fatzx10r
10th June 2011, 18:22
I may be wrong (Im not often) but I believe all the o6-010 10r's in NZ were canadian spec which were restricted.

i dont think the 06-10 zx10's were restricted, just the new model

Pussy
10th June 2011, 19:51
The ABS version is Aussie (full power) spec.
The non-ABS is Canadian (restricted) spec

Nonbeliever
10th June 2011, 20:17
i dont think the 06-10 zx10's were restricted, just the new model

I do think they were.
actually some of the 0405's were restricted also.
Some people will know what Im talking about

Pussy
10th June 2011, 20:55
Tell all oh Masterful One

Right, then..... MY opinion, FWIW...
I really liked the power delivery... although I did muck around with the traction control a bit to try it out. Was easy to ride with restraint, and had bloody AWESOME power once a few revs were on. Liked the fuelling.
The front suspension was actually quite good, surprisingly. The BPFs worked quite nice for composure and comfort. The rear sucked. The spring was WAAAAY too light, and the rear squatted quite a bit under acceleration. Consequently, the bike always felt like it was running wide exiting a corner.
General comfort-wise.... I'd happily do a 600k day on it. The smooth engine contributes to the comfort. And a real feeling of refinement.
It hasn't made me want to rush out and buy one... but I did like it. IF I had one, RT would be getting his pocket lined fairly soon after I got one. The bone stock suspension wouldn't suit me.

fatzx10r
10th June 2011, 21:03
I do think they were.
actually some of the 0405's were restricted also.
Some people will know what Im talking about

please explain?