Bloody Wellington riders

[ukusa]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4251072/Motorbike-surge-brings-increase-in-crashes

dragging the rest of the country down with their poor riding ability.

Seriously thoiugh, same old shit reporting with one side of the story. Easy to quote stats without proper in depth analysis & information of causes.
Whilst any number of deaths is too many, is 3 over 5 years really that bad? (how many in police chases?).

[simpy1]

I saw a guy hooning down Willis St this wet morning on some sort of grey supermoto-style bike...in SHORTS. Hmm.

But seriously...1100 bikes, 304 crashes. That's over 1/4 of the bikes commuting in!

What we all want to know is - how many were caused by the riders?

[Devil]

But seriously...1100 bikes, 304 crashes. That's over 1/4 of the bikes commuting in!


No, what it said was there were about 1100 bikes commuting in DAILY. But there were 304 crashes in the wellington region over the last 5 years.
Neither of the figures have anything to do with each other.

Piss poor reporting.

[MSTRS]

What we all want to know is - how many were caused by the riders?

Around 30%, perhaps less.
Intersections are where we tend to get taken out. And that's where car drivers tend to be at their worst, when it comes to not seeing us.

[MSTRS]

No, what it said was there were about 1100 bikes commuting in DAILY. But there were 304 crashes in the wellington region over the last 5 years.
Neither of the figures have anything to do with each other.

Piss poor reporting.

Indeed it is. How many cars do the same trip, coupled with their crashes? There are LOTS of panel beaters in the area....

[simpy1]

Piss poor reporting.

That's true. The number of bikes commuting in does not necessarily follow the same trend as the total number of bikes in the region. Total bike numbers may have increased by far more than the crash rate.

But then again, they could have been lower too. So basically what this article tells us is...nothing.

[MSTRS]

But then again, they could have been lower too. So basically what this article tells us is...nothing.

True. But what it tells the (usually unthinking non-rider) readers is that bikes are dangerous.
Post a comment on the Stuff site. I did.

[Bald Eagle]

Usual rubbish from what passes for our media reporters.
Never let the true facts get in the way of a nice headline.

[Scuba_Steve]

how many are actually those fucking scooters:scooter: tho??? (50cc ones of course)

[nudemetalz]

That tosser on the beaten-up XJ550 who runs the red lights at Willis Street every morning annoys the sh1t out of me too. He doesn't give us a good name.

[ukusa]

No, what it said was there were about 1100 bikes commuting in DAILY.

how the fuck do they come up with this figure? Have our bikes all been secretly micro-chipped?

[MSTRS]

how the fuck do they come up with this figure? Have our bikes all been secretly micro-chipped?

Census. Polls. Parking wardens. Little men with clickers and clipboards.

[ukusa]

Little men with clickers and clipboards.

Wonder what the going rate is for this type of intensive work, and who pays for it?

[MSTRS]

Who do you think?

[White trash]

I saw a guy hooning down Willis St this wet morning on some sort of grey supermoto-style bike...in SHORTS. Hmm.


YEah I see that guy twice a day too. He's hard as fuckin nails, always in shorts. It was 9 friggen degrees this morning! Cool bike too.

[portokiwi]

What can I say:shutup: dropping the wife of to workthis morning in the cage on the Porirua - wellington M-way we pull on the left hand side to make way to all the bikes going past. most of the other cages doing the same (wishing they could cut through traffic loike that):woohoo: when this dam yamaha goes flying past on the left side (brake down lane):facepalm:
Now that pissed me off. All this cars moving over to allow the bikes through and one decides to use the brake down lane.
I can see why he or she would use it BUT...... Why go so fast on that side you can see the cars moving to the left are you asking for an accident to happen?.
We didnt see you till you shot past. we had just let 3 other bikes past on the right.
Do you have to be different form all the other motorbikes going in the center?

[Spazman727]

At least they say that inattention on the part of the car drivers is a big factor in the crashes.

[Rogue Rider]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4251072/Motorbike-surge-brings-increase-in-crashes

dragging the rest of the country down with their poor riding ability.

Seriously thoiugh, same old shit reporting with one side of the story. Easy to quote stats without proper in depth analysis & information of causes.
Whilst any number of deaths is too many, is 3 over 5 years really that bad? (how many in police chases?).

What a one sided report, sure bike accidents have gone up, so too has acc and registration, however not all or even most of the accidents listed the error of the rider. How many times a day do cars pull out and fail to give way? How many cagers drive around like they own the road caring for nothing smaller than them. They quickly move out of the way of the bashed up landrover, rubbish truck or laurry......

Bikes bare the brunt of all accident statistics victim or culprit. Make no bones, we have all been shafted and ripped off by the new registration/ licensing fee's, but what can we do about it?


Sux ass!

[bogan]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4251072/Motorbike-surge-brings-increase-in-crashes

dragging the rest of the country down with their poor riding ability.

Seriously thoiugh, same old shit reporting with one side of the story. Easy to quote stats without proper in depth analysis & information of causes.
Whilst any number of deaths is too many, is 3 over 5 years really that bad? (how many in police chases?).

I too am very sick of mis-representative statistics, they will be questioned, and hopefully educated. Or put on the naughty list for telling lies.

[ajturbo]

That tosser on the beaten-up XJ550 who runs the red lights at Willis Street every morning annoys the sh1t out of me too. He doesn't give us a good name.

isn't that what you ride.....:innocent:

[BuzzardNZ]

Don't forget that mad cunt 'JUICED' on his green ZX-10. Surprised that idiot hasn't died yet by the way he rides.

[Katman]

That's right - if you stick your fingers in your ears and go LAH, LAH, LAH, LAH you can pretend it doesn't happen.

[Eyegasm]

That's right - if you stick your fingers in your ears and go LAH, LAH, LAH, LAH you can pretend it doesn't happen.

No that just means you can not hear it happen.

It'll still happen.

Wellington has had 2 motorcycle deaths this year alone. A few days apart IIRC.

[White trash]

No that just means you can not hear it happen.

It'll still happen.

Wellington has had 2 motorcycle deaths this year alone. A few days apart IIRC.

Commuting deaths or recreational riding deaths?

[James Deuce]

Commuting deaths or recreational riding deaths?

1 commuting. Tar snakes in the wet on the Thorndon viaduct contributed. But you're not allowed to say that.

[White trash]

1 commuting. Tar snakes in the wet on the Thorndon viaduct contributed. But you're not allowed to say that.

You talking about those expansion joint covers on the motorway there? I thought that was just my bikes rooted wheel alignment.

[Katman]

no that just means you can not hear it happen.

It'll still happen.

Wellington has had 2 motorcycle deaths this year alone. A few days apart iirc.

lah, lah, lah, lah..........

[Techno]

how many are actually those fucking scooters:scooter: tho??? (50cc ones of course)

You mean those guys (and gals) that rip down the center with only a helmet for protection?:facepalm:

How could they be dangerous?:blink:

[Techno]

You talking about those expansion joint covers on the motorway there? I thought that was just my bikes rooted wheel alignment.

Those are REALLY slippery!

[Milts]

1 commuting. Tar snakes in the wet on the Thorndon viaduct contributed. But you're not allowed to say that.

And IIRC the other was clipped by a taxi pulling out which knocked him under an oncoming van (at least that's how it was reported). All the gear in the world wouldn't help there, and depending on how conditions/events, defensive driving may not do much good either...

[Str8 Jacket]

I'm back in physio after I was hit from behind while waiting at the lights one morning last year. The guy did a runner and I rode myself to hospital. Maybe I should've called an ambulance and then made a point of stating what happened to the popo cause I was listed as 'just another motorbike crash'. Not sure they (the authorities) really care, I mean we are stupid enough to ride motorbikes, we are obviously a minority.... :rolleyes: