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wayne
25th October 2010, 11:01
do motogp and wsb have abs brakes or not ?
Mental Trousers
25th October 2010, 11:18
No. ABS doesn't reduce braking distance. In some cases it can increase distances. Most of those cases end up being at the race track with freaks onboard that can stop a bike in a shorter distance than a less talented individual with ABS. Those freaks are the ones paid craploads of money to race 150kg/220HP machines for a living.
Can't remember if the rules specifically prohibit them or not though.
gixerracer
25th October 2010, 12:35
No. ABS doesn't reduce braking distance. In some cases it can increase distances. Most of those cases end up being at the race track with freaks onboard that can stop a bike in a shorter distance than a less talented individual with ABS. Those freaks are the ones paid craploads of money to race 150kg/220HP machines for a living.
Can't remember if the rules specifically prohibit them or not though.
Karl Mugeridge just won the German Superbike Champs on the ABS CBR 1000
Crasherfromwayback
25th October 2010, 12:51
Karl Mugeridge just won the German Superbike Champs on the ABS CBR 1000
Any proof that it was actually hooked up?
yachtie10
25th October 2010, 12:55
Any proof that it was actually hooked up?
wouldnt it be a bit dumb to carry the extra wieght if they wernt being used?
Crasherfromwayback
25th October 2010, 13:00
wouldnt it be a bit dumb to carry the extra wieght if they wernt being used?
Who said they were? Don't get me wrong...I wouldn't have a clue what they were running. I'd simply be interested to know either way. May well be a marketing thing by Honda...doesn't mean they were actually using a bike equipped with it does it?
Maido
25th October 2010, 19:18
Me and Homo, I mean Hayden ran the ABS cbr600 to 2nd place at the enduro last year and just got pipped by sloan by 30 odd seconds.
Didn't really notice it being too different apart form the fact that under really heavy breaking it felt like the back of the bike was being pulled down, not all the weight pitching forward and wanting to lift the back.
In my opinion, on the track it would be a greater benefit in the wet than dry, however on the road I fully believe that every bike should have it. It can brake far better than the average rider.
Crasherfromwayback
25th October 2010, 19:51
however on the road I fully believe that every bike should have it. It can brake far better than the average rider.
Piss off. So you'd be OK if I was some fluro wearing homo that decided we all should wear it? What if I decided 50hp was enough for the 'street'? That top speed should be capped at 99.9 kph?
Fuck off with your safety for 'us' all shit. We're all 'the average' rider as far as stats go, and I want none of your rules and regs.
Maido
26th October 2010, 07:30
Piss off. So you'd be OK if I was some fluro wearing homo that decided we all should wear it? What if I decided 50hp was enough for the 'street'? That top speed should be capped at 99.9 kph?
Fuck off with your safety for 'us' all shit. We're all 'the average' rider as far as stats go, and I want none of your rules and regs.
Haha, holy shit that is just the response that makes the internet awesome!:innocent:
Did you see the bit in my post where I said In my opinion and underlined it?
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Next thing your know they will have ABS in cars too, those bastards! :shutup:
Devil
26th October 2010, 14:32
What if I decided 50hp was enough for the 'street'?
That depends if its in a 95kg 'tard or not :D
Crasherfromwayback
26th October 2010, 14:43
Haha, holy shit that is just the response that makes the internet awesome!:innocent:
Did you see the bit in my post where I said In my opinion and underlined it?
Next thing your know they will have ABS in cars too, those bastards! :shutup:
I know, and I made my opinion avail!
That depends if its in a 95kg 'tard or not :D
Still not enough!!!
codgyoleracer
26th October 2010, 14:53
This electrickety crap is getting pretty darned good nowadays & is way less invassive than in the past, especially with all the different mode settings.
Crasher - you can really start jumpin up and down when they dont give you the option to turn all the stuff off & be the hoon that you wanna be(like my V8 commode.......)
Crasherfromwayback
26th October 2010, 15:04
Crasher - you can really start jumpin up and down when they dont give you the option to turn all the stuff off & be the hoon that you wanna be(like my V8 commode.......)
Yeah...I could turn the traction control off in my XJR as well. MUCH better.
codgyoleracer
26th October 2010, 15:08
Yeah...I could turn the traction control off in my XJR as well. MUCH better.
I assume you have the sphincter design traction control then ? ;-)
Crasherfromwayback
26th October 2010, 15:10
Aye! Best one avail
White trash
26th October 2010, 15:14
(like my V8 commode.......)
Might I also congratulate you on finally seeing the light and getting yourself a truly inspiring automobile too sir. Looks fucken awesome in black, however I personally seem to turn a shade of green each time I see it.
codgyoleracer
26th October 2010, 15:22
Might I also congratulate you on finally seeing the light and getting yourself a truly inspiring automobile too sir. Looks fucken awesome in black, however I personally seem to turn a shade of green each time I see it.
Cheers, got her wound up the other day (in the outback somwhere) , she gets a might 'bouncy" on her suspenders... , suspect that it needs a bit of weight in the wagon part.
Signed
"Fat chicks in the back williams"
SPman
26th October 2010, 15:26
Looks like ABS may become compulsory on bikes in Europe any time soon, if the EU have their perverted way...probably by 2012!
White trash
26th October 2010, 15:35
Cheers, got her wound up the other day (in the outback somwhere) , she gets a might 'bouncy" on her suspenders... , suspect that it needs a bit of weight in the wagon part.
Signed
"Fat chicks in the back williams"
My old nail's had full bump/rebound/preload adjustable kitout on all four corners and it's good as gold now. I've driven it at some pretty horendus (for a car) speeds on some pretty rough *closed circuit* roads and it's mint. Probably still going nowhere near as fast as yours still however.
SMOKEU
26th October 2010, 15:44
Piss off. So you'd be OK if I was some fluro wearing homo that decided we all should wear it? What if I decided 50hp was enough for the 'street'? That top speed should be capped at 99.9 kph?
Fuck off with your safety for 'us' all shit. We're all 'the average' rider as far as stats go, and I want none of your rules and regs.
I'd like to see if you can stop a bike faster on a wet road without ABS than a good rider on a modern bike with a good ABS.
Crasherfromwayback
26th October 2010, 15:59
I'd like to see if you can stop a bike faster on a wet road without ABS than a good rider on a modern bike with a good ABS.
Haven't been out stopped by many people wet or dry on a race track, and I don't ride on wet roads very often if at all.
SMOKEU
26th October 2010, 16:03
Haven't been out stopped by many people wet or dry on a race track, and I don't ride on wet roads very often if at all.
From my own rather limited experience, I've found the main problem with riding a non ABS equipped bike is poor road surfaces. I've managed to lock the front wheel on my bike on several occasions when applying only a moderate braking force, thankfully I didn't come off the bike but I did end up going right off the road on one of those occasions. It would be interesting to ride an ABS equipped bike on the same road to make a comparison.
CHOPPA
26th October 2010, 16:44
From my own rather limited experience, I've found the main problem with riding a non ABS equipped bike is poor road surfaces. I've managed to lock the front wheel on my bike on several occasions when applying only a moderate braking force, thankfully I didn't come off the bike but I did end up going right off the road on one of those occasions. It would be interesting to ride an ABS equipped bike on the same road to make a comparison.
Its prob not something you want to rely on. I think you should maybe look at how your braking and maybe your tyre and pressures :)
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