Wellington: Kaitoke - Buckets only 28 November

[Skunk]

We are holding a Bucket only day on the 28th of November at Kaitoke.

Full nylon required. Bikes will be scrutineered.
Track open 8:30am.
Scrutineering from 8:30am.
Rider Briefing 9:30am.
Practice after briefing.
Entry $40.
Spectators free.

We're hoping to run an endurance race and a few other things (le mans start, staggered starts etc)

Let any other Bucketeers you know in on this!

[xr-rider]

when will we know if there is going to be an endurance race? might have to pop over for lookey and see if i can steal a bike for the day.

[hmurphy]

Keen. Will be there. Don't rain for f*cks sake. Dry racing would be nice for once

[Kendog]

Yes yes yes.

Looking forward to this.

[Skunk]

when will we know if there is going to be an endurance race? might have to pop over for lookey and see if i can steal a bike for the day.On the day. I'm not going to plan anything as I CBF'd. Turn up and race.

[hmurphy]

On the day. I'm not going to plan anything as I CBF'd. Turn up and race.

Love the attitude!!! Less talk more race!!! Can't wait!

[Trudes]

:wings: :wings: :wings:

[F5 Dave]

Well I'm keen as, but we'll either be waiting for the next nipper (in which case I might come with cell phone close to hand) or with new arrival & not so likely.

So who's going to the twilight one on the 13th? Is buckets there too isn't it?

[all4A50s]

Is there going to be a 2 hour or 2 1 hour endurance races?

[White trash]

Well I'm keen as, but we'll either be waiting for the next nipper (in which case I might come with cell phone close to hand) or with new arrival & not so likely.

Christ you're a breeder Dave. We should make you an honorary Mair the way you're carrying on.

[andrew a]

I think if its bikes only day it should be to try and get more riders out. I think it should be a two person enduro. Every efort to be made to get a non curent rider on the track. There may be a problem with gear so some thought might need to be put into that. (Maybe a few laps taken off of the same bike and leathers used). The thought of swoping leathers in a hurry all sweaty no thanks.
What do you think?

[all4A50s]

2 hour enduro with La Mans start please in the afternoon and fastest/slowest in each grade shoot out in the morning would be great.

The other thing would be nice if the first hour could be used for open testing. What do you think?

Who is going to be doing the prayers to the the sun god for an actual sunny day?

[richban]

I think if its bikes only day it should be to try and get more riders out. I think it should be a two person enduro. Every efort to be made to get a non curent rider on the track. There may be a problem with gear so some thought might need to be put into that. (Maybe a few laps taken off of the same bike and leathers used). The thought of swoping leathers in a hurry all sweaty no thanks.
What do you think?

Yep I second that. To make it simple. The winner could be the persons who crash the most and are still going at the end. Also I think it would be a good chance to look at lap times and set a lap time for Kaitoke that will put you in the A grade. That way it gives any new riders a target to aim 4. Maybe a 49 second lap. JUst puting it out there.

[hmurphy]

Yeah a casual enduro would be fun. Making it a lap times based enduro would be quite cool. At least then I wouldn't mind letting a few other people out on my bike rather than trying to do as many laps as possible and stuffing my tires and my body.

[all4A50s]

Yep I second that. To make it simple. The winner could be the persons who crash the most and are still going at the end. Also I think it would be a good chance to look at lap times and set a lap time for Kaitoke that will put you in the A grade. That way it gives any new riders a target to aim 4. Maybe a 49 second lap. JUst puting it out there.

How will you rate the crashes? Here's a few suggestions;
Best head banger
Best Bum rash
Best co-ordinated

So will the minimum time apply to every lap you do or would it be at set times?


Yeah a casual enduro would be fun. Making it a lap times based enduro would be quite cool. At least then I wouldn't mind letting a few other people out on my bike rather than trying to do as many laps as possible and stuffing my tires and my body.

i like the idea of giving people the option of solo or team racing (as in previous years). Although we could always try three riders between two bikes.

[richban]

So will the minimum time apply to every lap you do or would it be at set times?


No.

If you are racing and someone times you and you are racing at consistent fast times then that is how fast you can go. That way there will be know burglars in B grade. Also safer in A garde. Everything fair love war all that.

The time would have to be agreed on and it would have to be good weather and all that like for like.

[hmurphy]

Over the whole 2 hours just get every bike's top 10 fastest lap times and total them up. Would at least be lots of track time available and no big rush to stay out there if ya can't be assed doing 2 hours or having your bike out there for 2 hours. Just an idea.

[richban]

Over the whole 2 hours just get every bike's top 10 fastest lap times and total them up. Would at least be lots of track time available and no big rush to stay out there if ya can't be assed doing 2 hours or having your bike out there for 2 hours. Just an idea.

I think it should be a little more controlled than that the person needs to know that they are on the clock.

Lets concentrate on getting as many people to the track for a great meeting the timing thing can wait.

[hmurphy]

Yeah I'm just keen to have a few 10 or 15 lap races then just be casual about letting whoever have a go on my bike. Last endurance was fun but I couldn't afford the tire bill! Having my bike compete for 2 hours straight means new tires. I have a few people that have been chatting to me for a while about having a go at buckets. They are ok riders too.

[xr-rider]

i would love a 2 hoiur endurance race. shows whos bike can actually last

[Damien_Toman]

I'm not sure I can last an endurance race but would love to have another go at the fantastic Kaitoke track. Any other Aucklanders interested?

[koba]

Keen as beans, Shall endeavour to bring friends.

[Trudes]

If we're thinking about doing timing for the endurance we may have to look at hiring transponders eh, anyone know where and how much to hire?
Personally I would prefer an A grade 1hour enduro and a B grade 1hour enduro rather than 2hours. It just seems unnecessary, one hour is actually enough and normally everyone is stuffed and the spectators/other competitors are bored by then watching 2 bikes that are still going riding round and round.

[andrew a]

Personally I would prefer an A grade 1hour enduro and a B grade 1hour enduro rather than 2hours. It just seems unnecessary, one hour is actually enough and normally everyone is stuffed and the spectators/other competitors are bored by then watching 2 bikes that are still going riding round and round.[/QUOTE]

Sounds OK but one of the points I was after was to get new people to have a go. It would be great to have a B race with all bikes in it. That is all the A bikes have some one else having a go in the B race.

[White trash]

Keen as beans, Shall endeavour to bring friends.

Can't wait to see if you actually have any........

[F5 Dave]

Yeah I thought that too, but if you'd turned up to the P&J for their birthday bash you would have been surprised.

[White trash]

Yeah I thought that too, but if you'd turned up to the P&J for their birthday bash you would have been surprised.

I did turn up. I even had a conversation with you ya fucken idiot.

[Skunk]

I was going to leave it until the day so we could take into account what the people who turn up want.
But here's goes - subject to change etc.

Bike check
Session 1: 30 mins Testing A then B grade
Session 2: 10 min A grade
Session 3: 10 min B grade
Session 4: 10 min newbies
Session 5: 1 hour A grade
Session 6: 1 hour B grade
Session 7: 15 min A grade
Session 8: 15 min B grade
Session 9+: Anything I can fit

Unless YOU turn up with lap scorers and flaggies YOU will be doing any timekeeping and flagging required. I have not arranged any prizes - this is a day to enjoy.

Now shut up about how it should be arranged and start the smack-talk.

[richban]

Love your work Mr Skunk.

Smack Talk, Not this time. Every time I talk it up. I get spat off hard. Karma maybe.

[F5 Dave]

I did turn up. I even had a conversation with you ya fucken idiot.
That seems unlikely I would have remembered. Maybe you had been drinking. Or I had. I forget. Or don't remember much.:blink:

[F5 Dave]

& 3 cheers for Mr Skunk for organising this. Anyone moaning will be shredded & disposed of down the kart club's well kept toilets.

[White trash]

Question time before I smack talk.

Do I need a current MNZ licence to compete?

Actually, just realised it's Sues brithday the same day. Wont be there most probably.

[Skunk]

1. Do I need a current MNZ licence to compete?

2. Actually, just realised it's Sues brithday the same day. Wont be there most probably.1. No.
2. Chicken.

[White trash]

1. No.
2. Chicken.

Mmmm, obviously haven't seen an angry Sue before tough guy?

[all4A50s]

I was going to leave it until the day so we could take into account what the people who turn up want.
But here's goes - subject to change etc.

Bike check
Session 1: 30 mins Testing A then B grade
Session 2: 10 min A grade
Session 3: 10 min B grade
Session 4: 10 min newbies
Session 5: 1 hour A grade
Session 6: 1 hour B grade
Session 7: 15 min A grade
Session 8: 15 min B grade
Session 9+: Anything I can fit

Unless YOU turn up with lap scorers and flaggies YOU will be doing any timekeeping and flagging required. I have not arranged any prizes - this is a day to enjoy.

Now shut up about how it should be arranged and start the smack-talk.

Thanks Skunk. Your work is truly appreciated.

[Skunk]

Mmmm, obviously haven't seen an angry Sue before tough guy?No, but a live with an angry Leigh at times. :lol:

[quallman1234]

Session 1: 30 mins Testing A then B grade


What do you mean by this? One all in Testing session or one A and then one B grade?

I'll come along if i have a bike i have a bike =D.

[Str8 Jacket]

Caught up with Stew from TSS Red Baron last night and as they are sponsoring the event he'll be coming along. I may have convinced him to get out on the track.... :)

[fi5hy]

He has his name on the next one. Not sure on this one

[Str8 Jacket]

hmm, well he seemed to think it was the 28th Nov event....

[all4A50s]

What bike is Stew from TSS going to take out?

Is the practice session going to be an "open track" time?

How is the "Newbie" session going to work?

Will the endurance races be solo or joint racing sessions?

Can you run the same riders for both sessions?

Oh so many questions...:blink::shutup::facepalm:

[Shorty_925]

Looking forward to getting down there and racing, need that sun though!

[Skunk]

Caught up with Stew from TSS Red Baron last night and as they are sponsoring the event he'll be coming along. I may have convinced him to get out on the track.... :)No sponsor on this. I don't know of any other events either.

30mins for A and then 30 mins for B.


What bike is Stew from TSS going to take out?
Dunno
Is the practice session going to be an "open track" time?
For that grade - yes
How is the "Newbie" session going to work?
For those borrowing someone else's bucket to see what it's all about
Will the endurance races be solo or joint racing sessions?
Compulsory pitstop - rider change optional
Can you run the same riders for both sessions?
As above
Oh so many questions...:blink::shutup::facepalm:

Jeez can't you guys just turn up and race?

[Skunk]

Looking forward to getting down there and racing, need that sun though!Sorted. But I'm not telling what it is.

[Str8 Jacket]

No sponsor on this. I don't know of any other events either.


Well someone better talk to Stew then cause he definately has the impression he was to be sponsoring something.... He was the one that approached me about it.

[Number One]

28th November eh....hmmmmmm Sounds like a bit of fun.

[Skunk]

A few points the those that can't wait:

Session 4 for Newbies is a free session for those that have NEVER ridden a bucket before but are considering getting one. ie. they must be at least 13 years old, can ride a motorcycle etc. Nobody learning to ride etc will be allowed. This is not a learn to ride session. This is a 'do I like racing' session.

Everybody who goes onto the track will sign a disclaimer. That means everybody.

Anyone taking part in any session other than Session 4 will pay the full $40. I don't care what time you get there or how long your bike lasts.

Anyone breaking the Kart Club rules or the Bucket group rules will be asked to leave. These will be rules with be covered in riders briefing. If you have ever raced buckets and been at Kaitoke you will know them.

And that's it for starters. Happy?

[all4A50s]

No sponsor on this. I don't know of any other events either.

30mins for A and then 30 mins for B.

Jeez can't you guys just turn up and race?

Thank you. People are asking you know. I like the idea of a newbie session.

Who is bringing along what spare gear as it would be nice to know what extra gear there will be (again people are asking).

I have a spare set of leathers and a back protector I'm more than happy for someone to borrow.

[koba]

Jeez can't you guys just turn up and race?

YES!

Brilliant, Will do and love your method!

[andrew a]

I think we should have a race where erery one starts at the same time. Each race is 10 laps long and the bottom 2 drop of. There is a time limit so when the winner crosses the line there is 2 min before the start of the next race. Like in super cross

[hmurphy]

Haha that sounds fun Andrew. A bit hard on the poor B graders who will get far less track time though. Unless we run another race straight after where the fastest 2 drop off (making them the winners anyway) but at least then the B graders would get more laps too

[all4A50s]

I agree Hamish. Would it be possible to have individual bikes do laps to find out who is the fastest as we did last year instead?

[Moooools]

I would be very keen to have my bucket up and running for this meeting.
As to wether I will or not depends on many things, but I would be quite keen to turn up for a ride on a bucket to see what it is like. Something to keep me motivated.

I have leathers but not a back protector.

Max

[all4A50s]

Hi Max,
i have a spare bucket your welcome to use for the meet as long as you help me prep it and a back protector you can borrow.

[Moooools]

That would be awesome. I will see how I am going by next weekend on my bucket. And if everything is turning to shit I will take you up on your offer.

All I have left to do is a bit of crash protection, wire the sump, tidy up the loom and fit the seat unit properly. But that could take longer than I expect.

Max

[Henk]

five minute job. I've had an FXR from road legal to bucketable in a week.
I would offer to help but it's a bit of a commute.

[RDjase]

That would be awesome. I will see how I am going by next weekend on my bucket. And if everything is turning to shit I will take you up on your offer.

All I have left to do is a bit of crash protection, wire the sump, tidy up the loom and fit the seat unit properly. But that could take longer than I expect.

Max

How did you get on with the engine and all the issues you were having?


I might make this meeting, just got to get my FZR/TF125 finished and my sons FXR is all go. He doesnt like me riding his bike :angry: He thinks I will crash it, He's probably right

[Moooools]

How did you get on with the engine and all the issues you were having?


I might make this meeting, just got to get my FZR/TF125 finished and my sons FXR is all go. He doesnt like me riding his bike :angry: He thinks I will crash it, He's probably right

I will update my thread.

[quallman1234]

A few points the those that can't wait:

Session 4 for Newbies is a free session for those that have NEVER ridden a bucket before but are considering getting one. ie. they must be at least 13 years old, can ride a motorcycle etc. Nobody learning to ride etc will be allowed. This is not a learn to ride session. This is a 'do I like racing' session.

Everybody who goes onto the track will sign a disclaimer. That means everybody.

Anyone taking part in any session other than Session 4 will pay the full $40. I don't care what time you get there or how long your bike lasts.

Anyone breaking the Kart Club rules or the Bucket group rules will be asked to leave. These will be rules with be covered in riders briefing. If you have ever raced buckets and been at Kaitoke you will know them.

And that's it for starters. Happy?

Sounds awesome, great idea! Need any help. Ill be around. Maybe riding, maybe not we'll see. Haha.

[fi5hy]

Should be a good day. Its the time to get all those newbies out for a ride I know I have one showing up for a wobble:shit:

[Bert]

Road Trip.... no bike though.

[Shorty_925]

Should be a good day. Its the time to get all those newbies out for a ride I know I have one showing up for a wobble:shit:

So will I be, last time would have been about 12-14 years ago on the CBX125 or RG50, really looking forward to it.

[Mudflaps]

Road Trip.... no bike though.

PISS TRIP!!!!!!:woohoo: Birthday Boy! Sunday is going to be a long day:drinkup:!! I'll supply the crate!:yes:

[koba]

Woop woop, can't wait!

[richban]

HI All

Anyone got any Keihin Hex main jets around the 100 to 120 range thats coming to the track? I would like to borrow about a 110 for some testing.

Cheers Rich

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[hmurphy]

........more testing!? Don't tell me the thing can go faster mate. I have a very buggered back so I'm not sure what my chances are of getting to race. I have a few other guys lined up to have a go though. I'm praying my back starts healing soon... and fast. I want to race!

[richban]

........more testing!? Don't tell me the thing can go faster mate. I have a very buggered back so I'm not sure what my chances are of getting to race. I have a few other guys lined up to have a go though. I'm praying my back starts healing soon... and fast. I want to race!

Yep it can go a lot faster. Got to keep up with them 2 stroke boys. That sux about the back its always fun racing with yah. See you there for a beer anyway.

[koba]

HI All

Anyone got any Keihin Hex main jets around the 100 to 120 range thats coming to the track? I would like to borrow about a 110 for some testing.

Cheers Rich

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If you don't find one I can bring along one that is smaller and a bunch of jet drills and welding tip cleaners...
Yeah, I know its not best practice but may help if you are stuck.

[Skunk]

Bring your own food and drink as the cafe will not be open. There is the Caltex (Rimutex) down the road which has a Subway I think.

[koba]

which has a Subway I think.

Correctomondo

[F5 Dave]

Well the lass is having mini contractions so I don't think it will hold off till sunday night. I guess I won't make it there.:shutup: I'd put the 50 back together too.

[hmurphy]

Could I take your fiddy then Dave? Would you trust me? Haha. I can tell everyone you are reeeaally reeeeally cool? Im bringing at very least 3 new riders to buckets who are all very very good riders and I'm probably gonna have to sacrifice a fair bit of my own riding time for them. I want new people to join buckets so we can have big turnouts like Auckland etc

[all4A50s]

One bike down and halfway through the other. Moooools is fevering away prepping Ikasu with; new footpegs, a gear changer that should work without repositioning itself, slicks, seat cowling and a nicely mounted fairing.

Have replaced the exhaust on Zensen as well and she's sounding cool (and it will stay together).

[Skunk]

(and it will stay together).And on I hope.

BBQ with a few sausages will be provided. BYO extra food and drink.

Weather looks OK at this stage.

[Sketchy_Racer]

All right, thought I would drag my POS bucket out and see if it still goes. Catch you all there tomorrow.

I wonder if I can remember how to ride these two stroke things again...

[richban]

All right, thought I would drag my POS bucket out and see if it still goes. Catch you all there tomorrow.

I wonder if I can remember how to ride these two stroke things again...

Sweet. Lets see if you can scare the shit out me with one of your sneaky little up the inside maneuvers. Maybe there should be a rule for the sketchy. All sketchy's must go around the out side.

[koba]

Sweet. Lets see if you can scare the shit out me with one of your sneaky little up the inside maneuvers. Maybe there should be a rule for the sketchy. All sketchy's must go around the out side.

Naa, that just makes it more embarrassing when he still owns us all.

[fi5hy]

I know all the competitors are thinking the same way about the great day today the thanks must go out to Skunk and Nigel and the rest involved for putting on an wicked day well done guys. Cheers good effort Fishie

[hmurphy]

Awesome day, was fun to play on other people's bikes too. My mate Gareth rode really well too and he is now hooked. HOPEFULLY will see him again soon at buckets, and he is definitely fast enough for A grade. In saying that... Caleb is going a lot faster now too! I now have an even longer list of things to work on with my bike. But overall I still have a bit of fun on it.

Cheers heaps to the organizers Skunk and Nigel (and anyone else!), it was really an amazing day. Catch you all at the next one!

[Deano]

Cheers Hel's for a blast on your FXR - I really had a ball.

The reverse track race with the top guys was fecking impressive to watch. The speed they were taking through the last chicane was awesome.

[Str8 Jacket]

Cheers Hel's for a blast on your FXR - I really had a ball.

The reverse track race with the top guys was fecking impressive to watch. The speed they were taking through the last chicane was awesome.

You did well mister and the family had fun too!

You should really have had a go at reverse, another time eh.....! :)

[andrew a]

Yes Caleb and I were pleased with our days riding. I was very pleased to get Regan out for a ride from Boyle Kawasaki. Hopefully bucket racers may get some more respect! It has been such a long time since we have had a dry day it was real good. Thanks to the organisers also.

[Shorty_925]

We had a great time down there and will be back down, and with the weather it almost felt like the HB!!

A few photos.

[Shorty_925]

Couple more photos.

[all4A50s]

Thanks to Nigel and Andrew for organising a great days riding. The 1/2 hour stints were cool.

[koba]

Yeah, Cheers guys for putting on such a good show.

[Deano]

Hopefully bucket racers may get some more respect!

Ever since my first go on one you've had my respect. It's bloody hard work and no straights to have a wee rest like the big tracks.

[all4A50s]

Does anyone remember what paper the Photographer/Reporter was from? And if there are any other photo's?

[richban]

Just saving out some footage of the last A grade race. I had a shit day all in all. Trying to jet 2 different carbs and trying to go racing at the same time is stupid. I was having lots of trouble in the race as you will see in the vid. Reverse direction looks like 44 second laps from the vid. Feck it was hot work out there.

[Kendog]

Awesome day, I didn't ride every race but still got in lots of track time.

I had my doubts about the endurance format, but it turned out really well.
Great to see so many new people. I talked to a few of them during the day and they seemed to have caught the bucketing bug, so hopefully they will be back.

I want to thank Tex and Brent for being our main flag guys, Dave for cooking the bbq and of course Andrew for running the show.

Bring on the King of Kaitoke (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/65885-Bucket-calendar-Wellington-area?p=1129899754#post1129899754) series.