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khabel
26th October 2010, 09:47
I'd really want a R1 but I will have to control my urges and get a more sensible bike, especially as how it will be used for commuting to work.

With that said, whats the model down from the R1, something similar to the Sv1000s but hopefully not as ugly?

What are the other models from different manufacturers that are similar to the Sv?

Usarka
26th October 2010, 09:51
FZ1 / Fazer.....?

Quasievil
26th October 2010, 10:04
Eh, get a R1, whats wrong with ya.
same motor as a Fazer anyway

puddytat
26th October 2010, 10:30
Thers a tricky dodad on the net you can fit to R1's that stop you using any gear abve 1st & neutral....

Gibbo89
26th October 2010, 10:32
I'd really want a R1 but I will have to control my urges and get a more sensible bike, especially as how it will be used for commuting to work.

With that said, whats the model down from the R1, something similar to the Sv1000s but hopefully not as ugly?

What are the other models from different manufacturers that are similar to the Sv?

FZ1, as said above. The are also bringing in the FZ8S or FZ8N. It's going to be more of an 'all rounder' I think, not quite as small as the r6, or new xj6 (diversion looking) one/fz6.

edit: http://www.yamaha-motor.co.nz/products/motorcycle/road/sport/11-fz8s

neels
26th October 2010, 10:38
No real Yamaha equivalent to the SV1000 in terms of a v-twin, closest would be the FZ1/FZS1000 as mentioned above, if you're after a semi naked bike. Same engine but retuned for flatter torque curve and less peak horsepower. I looked at buying one but my knees didn't like the riding position.

khabel
26th October 2010, 11:01
No real Yamaha equivalent to the SV1000 in terms of a v-twin, closest would be the FZ1/FZS1000 as mentioned above, if you're after a semi naked bike. Same engine but retuned for flatter torque curve and less peak horsepower. I looked at buying one but my knees didn't like the riding position.

What about the riding position didnt you like?

neels
26th October 2010, 11:08
What about the riding position didnt you like?
Just one of those personal fit things, the placement of the pegs meant my slightly iffy knees didn't like the position they were in. Otherwise the riding position was pretty good, and easy to fit different bars to if you want to tweak it in that department.

PaddyFZ1
26th October 2010, 19:51
Yep the Fazer is The Yamaha Naked. Comes in a partially faired version, that i have or a Naked version.
Good all round bike, I commute 70km daily, and can keep up with me mates on their sports bikes on the weekend. Only problem ive found is the ground clearance, but changing my riding style, hanging off the side more, when giving it a fistful, or on the track, has reduced this problem.
Good reliable engine, 2003 R1, so well sorted mechanically, about 130hp at the wheel. Good Hooligan Bike or a comfy commuter, let your right wrist decide.

HenryDorsetCase
26th October 2010, 19:57
FZ1

FZ8

R1 with higher clipons?

MT O1

V Max
??

scracha
26th October 2010, 21:56
Maybe you want a GSXR750

_STAIN_
26th October 2010, 22:03
here's the yamaha equal, for a licence keeping ride

http://craig.copperleife.com/bikes/xv_virago/images/tw_cover_9-81_hires.jpg

98tls
26th October 2010, 22:03
I'd really want a R1 but I will have to control my urges and get a more sensible bike, especially as how it will be used for commuting to work.

With that said, whats the model down from the R1, something similar to the Sv1000s but hopefully not as ugly?

What are the other models from different manufacturers that are similar to the Sv?

Buy an R1 bin the plastics and buy some risers and mx bars/ adjustable rearsets.

HQfiend
26th October 2010, 22:48
I'd really want a R1 but I will have to control my urges and get a more sensible bike, especially as how it will be used for commuting to work.

With that said, whats the model down from the R1, something similar to the Sv1000s but hopefully not as ugly?

What are the other models from different manufacturers that are similar to the Sv?

Since all your taste is in your mouth, then the only V twin that Yamaha does will be the MT01 but at 1800cc you better have big balls and a bigger wallet as they aren't cheap! As your coming off a Hyosung 250, I'd recommend riding lessons at a trackday before taking on a R1 or similar as you'll wind up as an organ donor or hood ornament before long!

psycho22
26th October 2010, 23:46
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With that said, whats the model down from the R1, something similar to the Sv1000s but hopefully not as ugly?

All I can say is :gob: :angry: :mad: :bash:

Eyegasm
27th October 2010, 07:36
As your coming off a Hyosung 250, I'd recommend riding lessons at a trackday before taking on a R1 or similar as you'll wind up as an organ donor or hood ornament before long!

This I totally agree with.

The Hyobag is an unresponsive pig when it comes to throttle difference.

And that was just going from the 250 to test riding a mates 600.

imdying
27th October 2010, 08:44
I'd really want a R1 but I will have to control my urges and get a more sensible bike, especially as how it will be used for commuting to work.The R1 would make a better commuter than the SV1000.

banditrider
27th October 2010, 09:01
Since all your taste is in your mouth, then the only V twin that Yamaha does will be the MT01 but at 1800cc you better have big balls and a bigger wallet as they aren't cheap!

I was drooling over a 2nd hand one in Kaitaia the other day - $13k. Would be a lot of fun.

White trash
27th October 2010, 09:17
Since all your taste is in your mouth, then the only V twin that Yamaha does will be the MT01 but at 1800cc you better have big balls

Have you riiden an MT01? Big balls? I seriously doubt it. A friend chucked me the keys at a BBQ one night and I have to say it was the most uninspiring bike I've ever ridden. Boring boring boring.

NZsarge
27th October 2010, 11:35
Have you riiden an MT01? Big balls? I seriously doubt it. A friend chucked me the keys at a BBQ one night and I have to say it was the most uninspiring bike I've ever ridden. Boring boring boring.

If you're coming off a Hyosung 250 perhaps it wouldn't be as boring as you found it.

avgas
27th October 2010, 11:53
MT-0S

Not yet released. Dunno if ever will go full production.

I would recommend a FZ1.......but it will kill you if your not careful.

avgas
27th October 2010, 11:59
If you're coming off a Hyosung 250 perhaps it wouldn't be as boring as you found it.
I just checked that......on second thoughts this guy is coming off a Hyosung.

How about a SV400? Or Ducati Monster 400?

Yamaha equiv (that wont make squidmeat) would probably be one of the following:
XTX660
SRX6 or SRX4
That 660 sport single (can't remember name or model)

Basically if you haven't taken the hint I don't think you can handle a thou.....

khabel
27th October 2010, 12:59
After doing some research on the FZ1, I see they do a 600 version, which sounds more like me as I agree with you guys in the fact that 1000cc is too much this early. The problem with the 600cc bikes from what I've been reading is you need to keep them high up in the rev range which is why I mentioned the sv1000s in my first post.

Am I better looking at v-twins in the 600 range e.g. Honda Hornet?

White trash
27th October 2010, 13:04
After doing some research on the FZ1, I see they do a 600 version, which sounds more like me as I agree with you guys in the fact that 1000cc is too much this early. The problem with the 600cc bikes from what I've been reading is you need to keep them high up in the rev range which is why I mentioned the sv1000s in my first post.

Am I better looking at v-twins in the 600 range e.g. Honda Hornet?

Hornet's a 4 cyl bro, same as the Fazer 6.

People making judgements on what you should and shouldn't be riding without knowing you are a bit off in my own oppinion. I know plenty of people who have stepped straight from a 250 to a big bore sports bike with no dramas what so ever. It's all about attitude and what you're comfortable and confident riding.

imdying
27th October 2010, 13:05
The problem with the 600cc bikes from what I've been reading is you need to keep them high up in the rev range which is why I mentioned the sv1000s in my first post.Definitely a falacy. A ZX6R is twice the commuter (twice the all round bike actually) that an SV1k is.

st00ji
27th October 2010, 13:12
and compared to your 250 a 600 is going to feel like riding a V8, at least that was my experience after a few cheeky rides on various friends 400s and 600s

NZsarge
27th October 2010, 15:27
After doing some research on the FZ1, I see they do a 600 version, which sounds more like me as I agree with you guys in the fact that 1000cc is too much this early.

Look at the XJ6, only read good things about it, FZ8 too. Take em out for a ride, best way I reckon, go with what takes ya fancy and what you find managable.

NZsarge
27th October 2010, 15:38
Another good bike is the Kawasaki ER6 series, have ridden a ER6-N, went well.

YellowDog
27th October 2010, 15:41
I'd really want a R1 but I will have to control my urges and get a more sensible bike, especially as how it will be used for commuting to work.

With that said, whats the model down from the R1, something similar to the Sv1000s but hopefully not as ugly?

What are the other models from different manufacturers that are similar to the Sv?

The Yamaha is as ugly as the Suzuki. Get a Bandit. Much better bike!

Agree Kwaka ER6 is heaps better looking :yes:.

HenryDorsetCase
27th October 2010, 15:52
After doing some research on the FZ1, I see they do a 600 version, which sounds more like me as I agree with you guys in the fact that 1000cc is too much this early. The problem with the 600cc bikes from what I've been reading is you need to keep them high up in the rev range which is why I mentioned the sv1000s in my first post.

Am I better looking at v-twins in the 600 range e.g. Honda Hornet?

Buy a fuel injected SV650, put an Ohlins shock in it, emulators, and in a while a PC3 and can, some decent sticky tyres, and have at it.

You would be on the road for round 8 grand, and you would learn to ride. Plus its not going to highside you and drill you into the scenery like a lawndart.

HenryDorsetCase
27th October 2010, 15:56
After doing some research on the FZ1, I see they do a 600 version, which sounds more like me as I agree with you guys in the fact that 1000cc is too much this early. The problem with the 600cc bikes from what I've been reading is you need to keep them high up in the rev range which is why I mentioned the sv1000s in my first post.

Am I better looking at v-twins in the 600 range e.g. Honda Hornet?

you do know that Honda Hornets are not in fact V Twins but are in fact inline 4's?

Honda V Twins, in order of desirablility:

RC51 SP2
RC51 SP1
VT250 spada
anyother V twin including the 500 Ascot, and that watercooled 750 cruiser that Bubba Shobert raced flat track on: the cut off the shaft drive, turned the motor sideways and went racin'

VTR1000 "firestorm"

Seriously: get the SV650

AllanB
27th October 2010, 16:18
Buy a fuel injected SV650, put an Ohlins shock in it, emulators, and in a while a PC3 and can, some decent sticky tyres, and have at it.

You would be on the road for round 8 grand, and you would learn to ride. Plus its not going to highside you and drill you into the scenery like a lawndart.

Do it - you'll be spending too much time having fun to care about that R1 fantasy.

AllanB
27th October 2010, 16:19
Did I mention a SV650 would suit you? :innocent:

AllanB
27th October 2010, 16:24
Apparently the GSXR 750 front ends fit on the SV650 very nicely ........

SPman
27th October 2010, 17:13
I know plenty of people who have stepped straight from a 250 to a big bore sports bike with no dramas what so ever. It's all about attitude and what you're comfortable and confident riding.
Didn't the Dover step from a Hyosung to a GSXR1000.......:innocent:

yachtie10
27th October 2010, 17:20
What about a TDM900?

BuzzardNZ
28th October 2010, 12:04
ain't a V twin, but how about a TRX850

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_TRX850

A guy down the road from my work rides one, has after market cans on it and it sounds pretty good ( almost as nice as an uncorked SV1000 ;) )

Gibbo89
28th October 2010, 12:59
ain't a V twin, but how about a TRX850

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_TRX850

A guy down the road from my work rides one, has after market cans on it and it sounds pretty good ( almost as nice as an uncorked SV1000 ;) )

here is one on TM:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-327861796.htm

yachtie10
28th October 2010, 20:48
[QUOTE=BuzzardNZ;1129894491]ain't a V twin, but how about a TRX850

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_TRX850

QUOTE]

niether is a trx850

bsasuper
30th October 2010, 08:40
Honda vtr firestorm

waynzz7
31st October 2010, 18:35
Honda vtr firestorm


I like my VTR1000..went from an NSR250 to it with no problems..If you are going big take it to a couple of track days to learn how to handle it and get used to the power..I Must admit I think I enjoyed my NSR more, it was light and very flickable...Now I ride a whale lol...:niceone:

I would seriously consider the SV650 with some mods as they are still light-ish, have the V-Twin torque and sound and you can race it in the weekends with great success..Great fun :yes:

Banditbandit
2nd November 2010, 09:58
Didn't the Dover step from a Hyosung to a GSXR1000.......:innocent:

Is he still with us ?

White trash
2nd November 2010, 10:01
Is he still with us ?

Sure is. When he's not beating ths shit out of his wife.

Pussy
2nd November 2010, 19:10
Have you riiden an MT01? Big balls? I seriously doubt it. A friend chucked me the keys at a BBQ one night and I have to say it was the most uninspiring bike I've ever ridden. Boring boring boring.

You forgot to mention the goolie numbing vibration too, Jimmy

Houseman
2nd November 2010, 19:48
Simple answer to your question: Honda VTR1000 Firestorm as previously mentioned. Similar to SV1000 but not ugly - nuff said.

imdying
3rd November 2010, 12:48
Simple answer to your question: Honda VTR1000 Firestorm as previously mentioned. Similar to SV1000 but not ugly - nuff said.Err, I think you have that backwards. Jelly mould blob versus the scuplted modern look. No contest really.

avgas
3rd November 2010, 13:06
I know plenty of people who have stepped straight from a 250 to a big bore sports bike with no dramas what so ever. It's all about attitude and what you're comfortable and confident riding.
Yeah I heard you got old and now ride with slow people......:Pokey:

avgas
3rd November 2010, 13:11
After doing some research on the FZ1, I see they do a 600 version, which sounds more like me as I agree with you guys in the fact that 1000cc is too much this early. The problem with the 600cc bikes from what I've been reading is you need to keep them high up in the rev range which is why I mentioned the sv1000s in my first post.

Am I better looking at v-twins in the 600 range e.g. Honda Hornet?
Nah bro.
You clearly need extra power so get something brutal - ZXR14 bro. Or a Busa!
Superquick.
You need at least 100-200hp. Don't go V-twin bro.....you want power!!!

at the end of the day, the quicker you step off. The quicker ACC steps back and stops complaining that they have to fix the rest of us. You clearly know nothing about motorbikes, and are not willing to research for yourself.......so I care not for you.

White trash
3rd November 2010, 14:03
Yeah I heard you got old and now ride with slow people......:Pokey:

Nah mate, I got old and now ride with no one :) Should buy a Guzzi.....



at the end of the day, the quicker you step off. The quicker ACC steps back and stops complaining that they have to fix the rest of us. You clearly know nothing about motorbikes, and are not willing to research for yourself.......so I care not for you.

Carefull there sunshine. It just so happens I've met Khabel and he strikes me as a particularly responsible and mature individual. He's far from an 18 year old Squid, put it that way. As for the research, that's what he's doing here. Asking the opinions of his more experienced riding peers three months out from his full licence. He's also a fairly solidly built chap and therefore keen to move off his 250 fairly shortly after gaining his 6F so wants an idea of what will suit his needs for a bit of a shortlist.

Good on him I say

Especially good on him if he buys a bike from me :D

BuzzardNZ
3rd November 2010, 15:00
Simple answer to your question: Honda VTR1000 Firestorm as previously mentioned. Similar to SV1000 but not ugly - nuff said.

Since when was a VTR1000 the Yamaha version of the SV1000s :facepalm:

avgas
3rd November 2010, 15:03
Nah mate, I got old and now ride with no one :) Should buy a Guzzi.....
How's ya eye sight?

If its shit you could qualify to by a BMW......

White trash
3rd November 2010, 15:19
How's ya eye sight?

If its shit you could qualify to by a BMW......

Eye sight's good providing I keep up with my prescription changes. Couldn't pay me to own a BMW though. Actually, that's bullshit, ys wouldn't have to pay me much to own an S1000R :D

98tls
3rd November 2010, 18:20
Since when was a VTR1000 the Yamaha version of the SV1000s :facepalm:

May i just add since when was the VTR not ugly?

BuzzardNZ
5th November 2010, 11:06
May i just add since when was the VTR not ugly?

+1 as well as being slow and a fuel hog running on old fashioned carbs :innocent:

imdying
5th November 2010, 11:53
I don't think the VTRs are ugly, just bland and forgettable.

Juzz976
5th November 2010, 12:16
VTR would have cheaper insurance tho, less likely to want to ride it and no ones gonna steal it...

North Harbour Yamaha
16th November 2010, 14:49
Buy an R1 bin the plastics and buy some risers and mx bars/ adjustable rearsets.

Why go to all that trouble when you can just buy a FZ1 and it is all done for you..............

Elysium
18th December 2010, 21:46
VTR would have cheaper insurance tho, less likely to want to ride it and no ones gonna steal it...

Lol, like how they wont touch the TL's for obvious reasons. Something about their owners getting hurt or killed by their "widow makers". :wari:

R6_kid
19th December 2010, 00:14
ain't a V twin, but how about a TRX850

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_TRX850



niether is a trx850

I think thats what he meant. A TRX has a 270deg crank so it fires 90deg apart in the same way that the Ducati 90deg "L-twin" motors do. Trellis frame in all, its known by some as the Yamacati.

I've got a nicely set up one, and having stepped down to it from a GSXR1000K4, and having previously owned an R6, it's a nice rideable bike with very useable power delivery. From standard they need a set of springs in the front forks and some aftermarket pipes to get good value from them but are a nice bike for what they are.

Some pics of my bike (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/107451-The-slightly-longer-way-home?highlight=TRX850)

bsasuper
20th December 2010, 16:17
Think about a Honda VTR1000 SP1, not a SP2 (they went with 62mm throttle bodys vs the SP1 54mm, only gained 4hp in top end but lost a lot of midrange).

The Stranger
20th December 2010, 17:03
What's the Yamaha version of the SV1000s?

The Scorpio, similar power and handling anyway.

Latte
20th December 2010, 17:09
Since we aren't sticking to Yamaha's, try a RSV/Tuono. 990 V Twin, reasonably priced, and can get the R miodels with ohlins/brembos/OZ Wheels

Essentially same bike with different bars/fairings. One one side you;ve got a hooligan bike, and the other you've got a hooligan bike :D

Elysium
21st December 2010, 17:33
Since we aren't sticking to Yamaha's, try a RSV/Tuono. 990 V Twin, reasonably priced, and can get the R miodels with ohlins/brembos/OZ Wheels

Essentially same bike with different bars/fairings. One one side you;ve got a hooligan bike, and the other you've got a hooligan bike :D

RSV is better looking out of the two. R models are good but very pricey but if you go for a RSV I think the later models around 2002 and 2003 got better updates?