Aussie licences

[Spazman727]

I'm thinking of moving to Melbourne next year, and it seems, from the Vic Roads site that if you have a full car licence that you can automatically get a full bike licence with restrictions for 12 months. This is awesome 'cos I have a full NZ car licence but only a 6R. It seems that the restrictions are the same as an Australian P licence for 12 months. But it looks like you don't have to sit a full test or anything. Am I reading this wrong?

If you already have a full car driver licence, you will be issued with a full motorcycle licence (motorcycle licence category added to your card). However, all newly licensed riders are subject to certain restrictions and conditions for the first 12 months from the date of issue.

[red mermaid]

Don't ask on here because inevitably you will get some bush lawyer who will tell you there view of the way it is, or should be.

Send an email to Vic Roads and ask them, then print the answer off and take it with you when you go in to see them about getting there licence.

[Spazman727]

Don't ask on here because inevitably you will get some bush lawyer who will tell you there view of the way it is, or should be.

Send an email to Vic Roads and ask them, then print the answer off and take it with you when you go in to see them about getting there licence.

I hand't thought about asking a real person in Oz (if they really exist over there). Thanks.

[kevfromcoro]

I have just got a licence in QLD..
It was a right pain in the arse....
I needed about 6 forms of ID...preferably with photo ID
When i finally got all the paper work together... bank cards,,, credit cards,. where i lived.. a power bill.. the size of your grandmothers left shoe.. etc etc
It didnt go to bad.. looked at my licence. car,, motorbike. done
no tests. full bike licence.....
not sure about vic. may be diferent qld
good luck..

[Spazman727]

I have just got a licence in QLD..
It was a right pain in the arse....
I needed about 6 forms of ID...preferably with photo ID
When i finally got all the paper work together... bank cards,,, credit cards,. where i lived.. a power bill.. the size of your grandmothers left shoe.. etc etc
It didnt go to bad.. looked at my licence. car,, motorbike. done
no tests. full bike licence.....
not sure about vic. may be diferent qld
good luck..

I only have a 6R in New Zealand though and full class 1. What are the 12 month restrictions? I assume they're no pillion and bike size?

[red mermaid]

They're not real persons, they are Australians! :shit:

And each State can make there own rules.



I hand't thought about asking a real person in Oz (if they really exist over there). Thanks.

[Spazman727]

Also, does anybody know if there is an Australian version of Trademe so I can look at what sort of prices I can expect for cages and/ or bikes?
Thanks.

[Madness]

You mean like egay.com.au (http://www.ebay.com.au/) ?

:facepalm:

[kevfromcoro]

Also, does anybody know if there is an Australian version of Trademe so I can look at what sort of prices I can expect for cages and/ or bikes?
Thanks.
not to sure what a 6r is....
the bikes here are whats called LAMS approved
learner approved motorcycles.. lots of 650 are in this catagory....
depends on HP...
for a couple of links ......got to
www.ebay.com.au
bikepoint.com.au

[Spazman727]

You mean like egay.com.au (http://www.ebay.com.au/) ?

:facepalm:

Oh yeah, I guess they use ebay. Oops.

[Spazman727]

not to sure what a 6r is....
the bikes here are whats called LAMS approved
learner approved motorcycles.. lots of 650 are in this catagory....
depends on HP...
for a couple of links ......got to
www.ebay.com.au
bikepoint.com.au

6r is restricted (same as provisional in Oz I think) that means same conditions as a learner, but can go 100k and don't need an L plate.

[Madness]

Vehicles are quite expensive over there, compared to UnZud - they never grasped the amazing opportunity that is used Japanese imports, like we did. They were all about protecting the Australian car industry, which has to be admired.

Aussie rego's used to be bloody ridiculously expensive, but I'd imagine the trans-tasman gap in these costs has closed of late.

[davereid]

If I have read the thread correctly you will be using your NZ licence ? If this is the case, you are bound by your NZ licence conditions. Same as for tourists who come here. They can rent a camper on a car licence, if their home licence allows them to drive it. A k1w1 might need a truck license.

[Spazman727]

If I have read the thread correctly you will be using your NZ licence ? If this is the case, you are bound by your NZ licence conditions. Same as for tourists who come here. They can rent a camper on a car licence, if their home licence allows them to drive it. A k1w1 might need a truck license.

Na, I have to convert my NZ licence to a Victoria licence (which requires no test) if I'm gonna be there more than 3 months. This means that I will have a full Australian car licence. You can drive there for 3 months with an NZ licence but after that you have to apply for an Australian licence. From what I can see you can get a full Au licence by filling out some forms and showing your NZ licence. And then once you have a full AU car licence, you can get a full bike licence. Unless I'm mistaken. I have emailed the motorcylce section of the Vic Road dept (which I assume is the same as out LTNZ or whatever it is they call themselves this month)

[Forest]

Vehicles are quite expensive over there, compared to UnZud - they never grasped the amazing opportunity that is used Japanese imports, like we did. They were all about protecting the Australian car industry, which has to be admired.

Aussie rego's used to be bloody ridiculously expensive, but I'd imagine the trans-tasman gap in these costs has closed of late.

They also have stamp duty on vehicle ownership transfers.

Because vehicle licensing is handled at the state level (i.e. not federal) the state governments levy a tax on vehicle sales. The amount of the tax varies by the state, but they basically take the sale price of the vehicle and charge a percentage as the stamp duty. The tax rate generally depends on the type of vehicle (car, motorcycle, truck etc).

The sting in the tale? Stamp duty applies to sales of new and used vehicles.

[Forest]

Na, I have to convert my NZ licence to a Victoria licence (which requires no test) if I'm gonna be there more than 3 months. This means that I will have a full Australian car licence. You can drive there for 3 months with an NZ licence but after that you have to apply for an Australian licence. From what I can see you can get a full Au licence by filling out some forms and showing your NZ licence. And then once you have a full AU car licence, you can get a full bike licence. Unless I'm mistaken. I have emailed the motorcylce section of the Vic Road dept (which I assume is the same as out LTNZ or whatever it is they call themselves this month)

I haven't lived in Australia for the last 18 months. So this might no longer be true.

But one thing to watch out for is that when you convert your NZ license into an Australian license in Victoria, you have to surrender your NZ license to VIC roads.

The reason for this is that they don't want you to continue driving on your old NZ license should your new Australian license ever be canceled.

I'm sure there's a tonne of information about license transfers on the web if you're interested. As others have pointed out, each state has a different licensing system so make sure that you look at the rules for the state you intend to settle in.

[Spazman727]

I haven't lived in Australia for the last 18 months. So this might no longer be true.

But one thing to watch out for is that when you convert your NZ license into an Australian license in Victoria, you have to surrender your NZ license to VIC roads.

The reason for this is that they don't want you to continue driving on your old NZ license should your new Australian license ever be canceled.

I'm sure there's a tonne of information about license transfers on the web if you're interested. As others have pointed out, each state has a different licensing system so make sure that you look at the rules for the state you intend to settle in.

That's annoying if I ever want to move back to NZ. I can see where they're coming from though/
Yeah there's quite a bit but of info online it's kinda hard to make head or tail of.

[bsasuper]

If you dont have a FULL NZ licence, then you wont be able to just change your restricted licence over.

[Spazman727]

If you dont have a FULL NZ licence, then you wont be able to just change your restricted licence over.

I have a full NZ car licence, but the Vic Roads website implies that I can also get a full bike licence if I want to. It doesn't really make much sense.

[spajohn]

That's annoying if I ever want to move back to NZ. I can see where they're coming from though/
Yeah there's quite a bit but of info online it's kinda hard to make head or tail of.

Sounds like you're onto most of it. Check out this website for bikes: www.justbikes.com.au

I lived in NSW and did have to sit a theory test to change my drivers license over, however I had heard from mates in Melbourne they didn't. They do destroy your kiwi license (punch a hole in it and give it back). I had a major drama renewing my expired kiwi license while I lived in the UK so was reluctant to do this, so gave the Aussies my expired one and they didn't notice / or have a problem with it.

NSW is stricter and more expensive, so learning to ride involves 2 days training, and a third day going between Learners to Restricted. I met a foreigner there who turned up for the road test for the Restricted which was required to transfer his overseas license, not sure if you will need to do that in Vic.

As for stamp duty and rego, yep sucks. My bike used to cost close to $700 aussie for rego, and don't get me started on the insurance!

Forgot to add that in NSW you can go straight to your full from learners if you are over 30. A bit like the UK system, although theirs is much younger. May also pay to check on what Vic's stance is for that.

[spajohn]

Hey mate,

Some more sites for you...from a mate in Melbourne:
bikesales.com.au, bikepoint.com.au, tradingpost.com.au

"and if he wants to transition to an aussie motorbike forum, he wants to join www.netrider.net.au" "

cheers,
J

[Spazman727]

Ok, it seems that I may not be able to automatically get a full Victoria car licence because I haven't had my NZ full for 3 years. Which means I go onto a P licence for abut a year and a half. Then when I get a motorbike licence I have a learner licence for 3 months then got onto a P licence until my P licence for the car runs out and I get a full. And I thought New Zealand's licence rules were confusing.

[stjimyth]

i was in queensland and found out that they are on our old rules for motorbike full licences ie if you have had your restristicted for more than a year or 18 months then you are automatically entitled to a full bike licence there then if you come back home you can transfer it to a kiwi full licence
but the aa need you to have the aussie one for 2 years(there is always a catch)

good luck with the aussie burocrats they are nastier than here

[Spazman727]

i was in queensland and found out that they are on our old rules for motorbike full licences ie if you have had your restristicted for more than a year or 18 months then you are automatically entitled to a full bike licence there then if you come back home you can transfer it to a kiwi full licence
but the aa need you to have the aussie one for 2 years(there is always a catch)

good luck with the aussie burocrats they are nastier than here

Yeah, it seems that way. These rules are so confusing. Cheers.

[bsasuper]

Why dont you get an international licence.

[Spazman727]

Why dont you get an international licence.

'Cos I plan to live there. You can't use an international licence forever.