Somebody in a hurry then?

[Naki Rat]

This (http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/4284341/Motorcyclist-roared-past-at-236kmh) had to be a WTF moment for said policeman :shit:

Not a good place or time to be doing 236kmh !

[Banditbandit]

It wasn't me officer ...

But shit that would have been fun ...

[miloking]

Probably wasnt even in a sixth gear yet...

and lol on Mr Grant said "if police caught the rider he would lose his licence instantly" i dont think rider was too worried about his licence if he had one at all...

[Tunahunter]

This (http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/4284341/Motorcyclist-roared-past-at-236kmh) had to be a WTF moment for said policeman :shit:

Not a good place or time to be doing 236kmh !

Naughty naughty boy - bend over..........

[Jantar]

.... "if police caught the rider he would lose his licence instantly" .....
Probably the reason he didn't stop.

[T.W.R]

The area commander is a rather educated old chap isn't he

"The bike was fast approaching a small populated community. There was no way they would have been able to stop for any hazard."

:facepalm:

populated community :clap:

[Spazman727]

Probably the reason he didn't stop.

The cops did say he wouldn't be able to stop, I'm sure he tried :innocent:

[bogan]

The cops did say he wouldn't be able to stop, I'm sure he tried :innocent:

nah he musta been dead with the throttle stuck on, speed kills you know, if over 100 is likely fatal, 200+ he had no chance, he was only still on the road cos its so wide and straight :innocent:

[Spazman727]

nah he musta been dead with the throttle stuck on, speed kills you know, if over 100 is likely fatal, 200+ he had no chance, he was only still on the road cos its so wide and straight :innocent:

Haha, this is possibly true. Though isn't it stopping that is bad for you?

[yod]

The area commander is a rather educated old chap isn't he

"The bike was fast approaching a small populated community. There was no way they would have been able to stop for any hazard."

:facepalm:

populated community :clap:

lol

as opposed to all those unpopulated communities around the place :rofl:

[MsKABC]

"Mr Grant said if police caught the rider he would lose his licence instantly. "

How does he know it wasn't a female? :shifty:

[mashman]

"There was no way our vehicles could accelerate to catch a vehicle at that speed."

red rag to a bull?

[pritch]

Last time there was one of these locally the cops at least had a guess at the make and colour of the bike so we could all speculate who it was. And no it wasn't me.

Actually the "populated community" comment isn't too bad. Out here in the rural rump some of the communities have been pretty much depopulated.

[Naki Rat]

Naughty naughty boy - bend over..........
For the benefit of non-locals, judging from the news item the location was the 'Normanby Straight" which has numerous side roads and driveways, and includes entrances to the Hawera Racecourse and Hawera Aerodrome. Not a wise place to give a vehicle a quick blast such as this at 2.00pm. Had to be brave, and at least slightly crazy.

[SPman]

Where was Scott, the afternoon in question.......? :whistle:

[Edbear]

"Mr Grant said if police caught the rider he would lose his licence instantly. "

How does he know it wasn't a female? :shifty:

And so... where were you and what were you doing at that time....? :yes:

[beyond]

Mr Grant said if police caught the rider he would lose his licence instantly.


I wouldn't have stopped either... who would?

[trailblazer]

well with all the bad press bikers get that dosn't help at all.

[Motardman]

At 236 he/she was probably to busy paying attention to where he/she was going to give two shits or even notice the fuzz

[ynot slow]

A few side roads for sure,and good ones too,Skeet Rd,Mawhittiwhitti Rd onto Skeet or Normanby Rd,many get away routes,hell could be in Opunake in 10 mins at that pace lol.

But why would you fly along the Normanby straight at that time,usually a cop or three patrolling.Maybe missed the entrance to the Furlong pub,decided to head to back pub for a beer lol.

[boomer]

well with all the bad press bikers get that dosn't help at all.


shh batty boi


There was no excuse for that speed on a public road, he said.
who needs an excuse.. just ços is more than fine in my book... fook cares what he thinks

[Highlander]

At 236 he/she was probably to busy paying attention to where he/she was going to give two shits or even notice the fuzz

HIS mirrors were probably flapping and vibrating so hard he couldn't see behind him if he wanted to.

Am I misreading the article? I can see no reference to the rider being a him or a her (pretty safe to assume it is one or the other though).

[thepom]

ha ha in your face po po.....

[Swoop]

"There was no way our vehicles could accelerate to catch a vehicle at that speed."
Or... "we couldn't perform a U-turn in time to take him out"...

[SMOKEU]

Catch me if you can!

[schrodingers cat]

"Mr Grant said if police caught the rider he would lose his licence instantly. "

How does he know it wasn't a female? :shifty:

Sigh. He wasn't riding in the kitchen was he?

[trailblazer]

Sigh. He wasn't riding in the kitchen was he?

:killingme:killingme:killingme
and they didn't try and bribe the cop with a $20.

[schrodingers cat]

:killingme:killingme:killingme
and they didn't try and bribe the cop with a $20.

If you just reach in here officer...

[NUTBAR]

For the benefit of non-locals, judging from the news item the location was the 'Normanby Straight" which has numerous side roads and driveways, and includes entrances to the Hawera Racecourse and Hawera Aerodrome. Not a wise place to give a vehicle a quick blast such as this at 2.00pm. Had to be brave, and at least slightly crazy.

wasnt me this time, .. promise. :scratch:

[fatzx10r]

he didnt get caught. i love a happy ending

[caseye]

As someone not from the area, I'm taking what the locals have said to be correct.
If so, what sort of Boofhead exceeds the speed limit by that much,at that time on a road where any number of vehicles could simply pull out in front of him and be cut in half.
I hope you fools in this thread have had enough fun, time to count the cost.
What if he'd hit the school bus with your kids in it?
Yesterday wasn't enough for you guys aye, a guy dies on a Race Track , the safest place he could be to exceed the normal road speed limit and today your'/e all congratulating an unknown FOOL on a bike who could have killed many others.
Not Impressed and not for a moment going to say anything nice about an IDIOT who thinks this is fun.

[miloking]

As someone not from the area, I'm taking what the locals have said to be correct.
If so, what sort of Boofhead exceeds the speed limit by that much,at that time on a road where any number of vehicles could simply pull out in front of him and be cut in half.
I hope you fools in this thread have had enough fun, time to count the cost.
What if he'd hit the school bus with your kids in it?
Yesterday wasn't enough for you guys aye, a guy dies on a Race Track , the safest place he could be to exceed the normal road speed limit and today your'/e all congratulating an unknown FOOL on a bike who could have killed many others.
Not Impressed and not for a moment going to say anything nice about an IDIOT who thinks this is fun.

Yesterday wasnt enough???? How the fuck can you compare someone participating at a track day and dying in unfortunate accident with someone speeding on the road.... that had nothing to do with this and you know it!
Also there is time and place for speed ... and its race track (and quiet back road perhaps).

[xr-rider]

the only place for speeds like this is a at a race track

[LBD]

NO COMMENT......Gulp:Oops::sweatdrop:sweatdrop:sweatd rop:sweatdrop:sweatdrop

[Genie]

Going that fast on a public road...suicide or murder?

Glad neither was the case but hell, if the rider keeps up with that behaviour it won't be long. Carnage and a few thousand dollars for hospital fees (if rider survives).

The rider has something missing!

Then one reads Scummies thread, another speedie but with a different ending.

The rider in question is propably having a right big laugh for his two seconds of infamy.

[ynot slow]

Unfortunately he got away with it,next time will he?and if so next time etc.If going through Normanby with the school by the main road he is asking for trouble,and if he is local I hope you get a friggin smack in the head from mates,or at least his mates tell him to pull his ego in.

Yep we all like to go fast at times,but not on a highway as busy as SH3,along numerous backroads in area with little traffic or schools etc.

[scumdog]

he didnt get caught. i love a happy ending

Does crashing while doing a runner count as being caught???:shifty:

[Edbear]

I guess so. Most runners end up crashing, very few get away. One must question their IQ level. Heard of a T-shirt that read, "I had an IQ test. The results were negative!" :blink:

[jellywrestler]

whose to say the law hasn't put out a press release to this effect cause they feel lonely, time we had videos in all the cop cars to keep a better eye on things. This would have a better understanding of their chase procedures too...

[marty]

HIS mirrors were probably flapping and vibrating so hard he couldn't see behind him if he wanted to.

Am I misreading the article? I can see no reference to the rider being a him or a her (pretty safe to assume it is one or the other though).

read the last line of the article.

[trailblazer]

if that is the speeds this person do on a regular basis he will be caught one way or another I hope it is just by the cops but it may just be by someones front bumper as they pull out of a side road as they have misjudged this persons speed. I truely don't wish that on anyone but you have to wonder what goes through some peoples heads.

[nadroj]

Probably someone with a Busa who had a miss near red line in 3rd gear since fitting a TRE! The mechanic took it up the road to check?






(PT):innocent:

[Brian d marge]

"Mr Grant said if police caught the rider he would lose his license instantly. "

How does he know it wasn't a female? :shifty:


is he saying that he the policeman would lose his cornflakes gift and not the rider?

Mcplod is just miffed he ( plod ) missed out on revenue

Stephen

on I side note that man with the red flag running in front of the motorcyclist did a damn fine job !

[baptist]

if that is the speeds this person do on a regular basis he will be caught one way or another I hope it is just by the cops but it may just be by someones front bumper as they pull out of a side road as they have misjudged this persons speed. I truely don't wish that on anyone but you have to wonder what goes through some peoples heads.

+1, I can understand the urge to go fast (not on my bike though, 0-60 in five minutes flat) that people have, and I had a lead foot in my V12, but this is insanity. I would hate to think people could go that fast past my kids school:mad: .

Genie, I fear it he come off it could end in murder...

[Motardman]

+1, I can understand the urge to go fast (not on my bike though, 0-60 in five minutes flat) that people have, and I had a lead foot in my V12, but this is insanity. I would hate to think people could go that fast past my kids school:mad: .

Genie, I fear it he come off it could end in murder...

Nowhere has it been mentioned or insinuated that this was anywhere near or likely to have been conducted past a school, lets try not to over react people...anyone would think you lot were running the nanny state. 236 isn't the land speed record, plenty of you I'm sure have had moments of madness outside of the MereMere drag strip so don't be so quick to get all whingey :facepalm:

[miloking]

Nowhere has it been mentioned or insinuated that this was anywhere near or likely to have been conducted past a school, lets try not to over react people...anyone would think you lot were running the nanny state. 236 isn't the land speed record, plenty of you I'm sure have had moments of madness outside of the MereMere drag strip so don't be so quick to get all whingey :facepalm:

Dont worry, not all of us are soft cocks... and to be honest i think about 80% of people here have done similar speeds on the road, owning up to it is another matter tho because they wouldn't be able to come here and "judge and preach" to the rest of us...

[Patrick]

Going that fast on a public road...suicide or murder?

Glad neither was the case but hell, if the rider keeps up with that behaviour it won't be long. Carnage and a few thousand dollars for hospital fees (if rider survives).

The rider has something missing!

Then one reads Scummies thread, another speedie but with a different ending.

The rider in question is propably having a right big laugh for his two seconds of infamy.

The locals will well remember recently the rider who was always fanging it around the place, similar antics, day and night, there was a "suspect"... Then the inevitable... He wiped himself out and the antics stopped. He happened to be the "suspect"....

Won't belong now before there will be another "biker down" thread....


Does crashing while doing a runner count as being caught???:shifty:

Or, in completely poor taste in response to the hero worshipping that occurs when crap like this goes on...... as a happy ending...?:shutup:


Nowhere has it been mentioned or insinuated that this was anywhere near or likely to have been conducted past a school, lets try not to over react people...anyone would think you lot were running the nanny state. 236 isn't the land speed record, plenty of you I'm sure have had moments of madness outside of the MereMere drag strip so don't be so quick to get all whingey :facepalm:

It was locals supplying local knowledge. There is a race course. There is an aerodrome (both well used... wether races are on or not...) and there is farmland with all the associated machinery that comes with that... and there is a school, not too far from there at all.....


Dont worry, not all of us are soft cocks... and to be honest i think about 80% of people here have done similar speeds on the road, owning up to it is another matter tho because they wouldn't be able to come here and "judge and preach" to the rest of us...

Time and place - SH3 there at 2 in the arvo is the wrong time and place.... He or she is a cock. I wonder when the blitz on all bikers will begin? Can't be too far away now..... with things like this happening....

[Motardman]

It was locals supplying local knowledge. There is a race course. There is an aerodrome (both well used... wether races are on or not...) and there is farmland with all the associated machinery that comes with that... and there is a school, not too far from there at all.....

There's a school 'not far' from everywhere ffs, sensationalist bullshit :brick:

[nodrog]

.....What if he'd hit the school bus with your kids in it?.....

They would probably break a tailight with their heads, and the kids would get a lesson in what a proper Halloween costume should look like.

Fanny

[scumdog]

I got this comment attached to some green related to this thread, can anybody translate???:blink:

"FTP stupid backon / donut eating noobs, finally someone admited those commonwhores dont have a chance"

Or has the person who sent it had too much green?:wacko:

[miloking]

Time and place - SH3 there at 2 in the arvo is the wrong time and place.... He or she is a cock. I wonder when the blitz on all bikers will begin? Can't be too far away now..... with things like this happening....

Ohh i think that "blitz" you are talking about has been happening for last 30 years already...cops hate bikers and we hate cops...its pretty simple.
You will persecute us for the smallest of mistakes whenever you get a chance to make up for all the "cocks" that got away.... and we will try to get away for all those times you punished us for nothing, thats the way it is and always will be!

This guy just changed the score +1 to bikers...your move now!

[pzkpfw]

You will persecute us for the smallest of mistakes whenever you get a chance to make up for all the "cocks" that got away....

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/130211-Good-attitude-good-excuse-amp-good-Luck-what-do-you-think

[Str8 Jacket]

"Mr Grant said if police caught the rider he would lose his licence instantly. "

How does he know it wasn't a female? :shifty:

Cause they would've been dragging the kitchen sink that they were tied too along.....

[Edbear]

I got this comment attached to some green related to this thread, can anybody translate???:blink:

"FTP stupid backon / donut eating noobs, finally someone admited those commonwhores dont have a chance"

Or has the person who sent it had too much green?:wacko:

I think he's saying your cars are too slow and you need faster vehicles...:yes:

The first bit was non-complimentary of Police and he mis-spelled bacon, but perhaps he was posting tongue-in-cheek?

[Edbear]

Ohh i think that "blitz" you are talking about has been happening for last 30 years already...cops hate bikers and we hate cops...its pretty simple.
You will persecute us for the smallest of mistakes whenever you get a chance to make up for all the "cocks" that got away.... and we will try to get away for all those times you punished us for nothing, thats the way it is and always will be!

This guy just changed the score +1 to bikers...your move now!

Sweeping generalisations from a minority...

[scumdog]

Ohh i think that "blitz" you are talking about has been happening for last 30 years already...cops hate bikers and we hate cops...its pretty simple.

This guy just changed the score +1 to bikers...your move now!

(a) What's this 'we' paleface?

(b) the thread 'Sometimes you win - sometimes you lose', makes 1 - all.:bleh:

[phill-k]

Apparently the bikes rego came back as a Honda 750 shadow

[miloking]

Sweeping generalisations from a minority...

Yeah you wish it was generalisation...if you seriously think that bikers "love" cops you need to pinch yourself because you are dreaming!

[miloking]

(a) What's this 'we' paleface?

(b) the thread 'Sometimes you win - sometimes you lose', makes 1 - all.:bleh:

a) We - people on a two wheeled motorised vehicles (also are you being racist?)

b) Is that a challenge?

[Edbear]

Yeah you wish it was generalisation...if you seriously think that bikers "love" cops you need to pinch yourself because you are dreaming!

Go back and read your post. "Bikers hate cops and cops hate bikers." Rubbish! And your sweeping generalisation that cops will target bikers and pick on them relentlessly for "every tiny thing" is also rubbish!

You personally, and maybe a couple of others on here may, hate cops and break the law every time you ride as a one-fingered salute to authority, and heap vitriol on any copper who dares to pull you over for any offense, but you are being a idiot and doing yourself no favours with your ranting.

Why don't you cool off, turn your brain on and go on patrol with the cops or engage in discussions with those who make the laws. You came across, rightly or wrongly, as a selfish, arrogant anarchist with no respect for authority.

[Motardman]

Go back and read your post. "Bikers hate cops and cops hate bikers." Rubbish! And your sweeping generalisation that cops will target bikers and pick on them relentlessly for "every tiny thing" is also rubbish!

You personally, and maybe a couple of others on here may, hate cops and break the law every time you ride as a one-fingered salute to authority, and heap vitriol on any copper who dares to pull you over for any offense, but you are being a idiot and doing yourself no favours with your ranting.

Why don't you cool off, turn your brain on and go on patrol with the cops or engage in discussions with those who make the laws. You came across, rightly or wrongly, as a selfish, arrogant anarchist with no respect for authority.

Careful, for a second there it sounded like you believe cops are holier than thou and would never flaunt the laws because they can get away with it. It's hard to take a telling off from people dressed up in uniform that are just as guilty if not more so than the rest of us. I have no problem with laws, just some of the wankers enforcing them......small penis syndrome is rife in the traffic 'force'.

[Edbear]

Careful, for a second there it sounded like you believe cops are holier than thou and would never flaunt the laws because they can get away with it. It's hard to take a telling off from people dressed up in uniform that are just as guilty if not more so than the rest of us. I have no problem with laws, just some of the wankers enforcing them......small penis syndrome is rife in the traffic 'force'.

Of course they aren't angels, who is? Most are simply people like you and me, but doing a job most of us wouldn't want to do, dealing with the dregs of society and having to be nice to people like you who may treat them with disrespect and also come to your aid if you crash whether you were obeying the law or not.

I started driving illegally on the road in 1970, legally from 1973 and have been ever since. I've asked the question before, why have I got through 40 years and have no issues, no angst and never had a problem with any cop I've encountered? It's maybe as much about your attitude as about the integrity of the Police. Maybe you bring undue attention to yourself?

[Motardman]

Of course they aren't angels, who is? Most are simply people like you and me, but doing a job most of us wouldn't want to do, dealing with the dregs of society and having to be nice to people like you who may treat them with disrespect and also come to your aid if you crash whether you were obeying the law or not.

I started driving illegally on the road in 1970, legally from 1973 and have been ever since. I've asked the question before, why have I got through 40 years and have no issues, no angst and never had a problem with any cop I've encountered? It's maybe as much about your attitude as about the integrity of the Police. Maybe you bring undue attention to yourself?

Maybe it's the fact you're in NZ, where i come from (the UK) they're not so magnanimous. The last time I had a crash the first thing they did was breathalyze me, didn't even ask if I was ok, once satisfied I wasn't a pisshead they buggered off...lol

In my experience, which is also lengthy :girlfight:, being nice to them really doesn't make much of a difference if you've broken the law, tried both approaches and achieved the same response.....mild patronization with a smattering of high and mighty and a side of officious ponce syndrome.

I tend not to break the law in stupid places (outside schools, in shopping centres, outside copshops) however the attitude of many officers I've encountered even on the most minor offences.....62 kph in a 50 for example in a car that can stop on a 20 cent piece......is frankly unnecessary. You will never change the way some people feel towards the fuzz no matter how much you glorify them as our saviors because unfortunately as they are 'just like us' that also works against them, they also let their feelings effect their judgement.

They may not 'hate bikers' as someone mentioned but there are a truckload of them that really don't like us very much......that also applies to anyone in a car with a big bore exhaust/spoilers etc. I've been pulled over for the heinous offence of driving my car in a straight line late at night obeying the speed limit.....there was another group of uniform wearing enforcers hanging around Europe a few years back with a similar attitude :p

[Edbear]

Maybe it's the fact you're in NZ, where i come from (the UK) they're not so magnanimous. The last time I had a crash the first thing they did was breathalyze me, didn't even ask if I was ok, once satisfied I wasn't a pisshead they buggered off...lol

In my experience, which is also lengthy :girlfight:, being nice to them really doesn't make much of a difference if you've broken the law, tried both approaches and achieved the same response.....mild patronization with a smattering of high and mighty and a side of officious ponce syndrome.

I tend not to break the law in stupid places (outside schools, in shopping centres, outside copshops) however the attitude of many officers I've encountered even on the most minor offences.....62 kph in a 50 for example in a car that can stop on a 20 cent piece......is frankly unnecessary. You will never change the way some people feel towards the fuzz no matter how much you glorify them as our saviors because unfortunately as they are 'just like us' that also works against them, they also let their feelings effect their judgement.

They may not 'hate bikers' as someone mentioned but there are a truckload of them that really don't like us very much......that also applies to anyone in a car with a big bore exhaust/spoilers etc. I've been pulled over for the heinous offence of driving my car in a straight line late at night obeying the speed limit.....there was another group of uniform wearing enforcers hanging around Europe a few years back with a similar attitude :p

To address the point underlined. You break the law you take the consequences, it's very simple. If they lecture you, take it, it's their job.

On recent case, a woman stepped in front of a car and was killed. The driver admitted to doing 59km/h. He was not going fast enough to get a ticket and wasn't charged with speeding despite being 9km/h over the limit. However, the SCU did investigate whether his speed was a factor in being unable to stop in time. Had it been, he would have been charged, so it was to his relief that they found he couldn't have avoided her even if he had been at the legal limit.

It's something to think about. Even if you are within any tolerance the cops allow, if you crash, your speed will always be considered. Mine was, even though I was doing about 45km/h when I spun out on oil.

If you are driving a modified vehicle you must expect to be stopped at some point for a vehicle check. You don't say why you were pulled over and what the cop wanted. I assume it was simply to check your modifications.

[Motardman]

To address the point underlined. You break the law you take the consequences, it's very simple. If they lecture you, take it, it's their job.

On recent case, a woman stepped in front of a car and was killed. The driver admitted to doing 59km/h. He was not going fast enough to get a ticket and wasn't charged with speeding despite being 9km/h over the limit. However, the SCU did investigate whether his speed was a factor in being unable to stop in time. Had it been, he would have been charged, so it was to his relief that they found he couldn't have avoided her even if he had been at the legal limit.

It's something to think about. Even if you are within any tolerance the cops allow, if you crash, your speed will always be considered. Mine was, even though I was doing about 45km/h when I spun out on oil.

If you are driving a modified vehicle you must expect to be stopped at some point for a vehicle check. You don't say why you were pulled over and what the cop wanted. I assume it was simply to check your modifications.

Sorry but I have zero sympathy for stupid pedestrians :violin:. It's bad enough having to deal with useless drivers let alone numbnuts who step out into the road without looking.

As far as I know 'a lecture' is not part of the procedure. If I were to give a lecture everytime somebody did something stupid or wrong with a computer I'd be a very unpopular IT person.....and funnily enough the ones that do ARE. It's very simple........give the ticket and let the offender be on their way, no patronising and no attitude.....but unfortunately put a human being into a position of power and they invariably become a fuckwit....just look and the government :facepalm:

At no point in the roadcode or the civil rights bill in this country does it say that if you drive a modified vehicle that you should expect to be stopped....it's called harassment. I have MANY friends and colleagues who've suffered interrogations for no apparent reason. The funny thing was when I wound down my window, the officers face was a picture, he was expecting some cap on sideways little prick rather than a bespectacled middle age pommy bastard. I asked why I'd been stopped......routine check......that old chestnut.

Speeding is a sore point in any country, however my opinion, for what its worth, is that speed isn't the major issue....the biggest issue is poor driving skill and the real killer..... lack of awareness. One day it would be nice if all parties involved in accidents we forced to attend and pass advanced driver training at their own cost before being allowed back on the road.....now THAT would get rid of some numpties.

[Katman]

Looks like miloking's found himself a boyfriend.

[Motardman]

Looks like miloking's found himself a boyfriend.

Nah....unless he has large breasts and epic thighs :woohoo:

[Edbear]

Sorry but I have zero sympathy for stupid pedestrians :violin:. It's bad enough having to deal with useless drivers let alone numbnuts who step out into the road without looking.

As far as I know 'a lecture' is not part of the procedure. If I were to give a lecture everytime somebody did something stupid or wrong with a computer I'd be a very unpopular IT person.....and funnily enough the ones that do ARE. It's very simple........give the ticket and let the offender be on their way, no patronising and no attitude.....but unfortunately put a human being into a position of power and they invariably become a fuckwit....just look and the government :facepalm:

At no point in the roadcode or the civil rights bill in this country does it say that if you drive a modified vehicle that you should expect to be stopped....it's called harassment. I have MANY friends and colleagues who've suffered interrogations for no apparent reason. The funny thing was when I wound down my window, the officers face was a picture, he was expecting some cap on sideways little prick rather than a bespectacled middle age pommy bastard. I asked why I'd been stopped......routine check......that old chestnut.

Speeding is a sore point in any country, however my opinion, for what its worth, is that speed isn't the major issue....the biggest issue is poor driving skill and the real killer..... lack of awareness. One day it would be nice if all parties involved in accidents we forced to attend and pass advanced driver training at their own cost before being allowed back on the road.....now THAT would get rid of some numpties.

Your last paragraph has merit, but you have obviously lead a privileged life and have the typical blase attitude to the welfare of others of one without a clue what life is really about.

[Motardman]

Your last paragraph has merit, but you have obviously lead a privileged life and have the typical blase attitude to the welfare of others of one without a clue what life is really about.

:killingme do you want some sauce for the chip on your shoulder? I thought we were going to have an interesting debate but you've played the 'you don't understand life the universe and everything card', good luck and goodnight :2thumbsup

[Edbear]

:killingme do you want some sauce for the chip on your shoulder? I thought we were going to have an interesting debate but you've played the 'you don't understand life the universe and everything card', good luck and goodnight :2thumbsup

Yeah, sure... I guess I'm too tired to be bothered with trolls at this time of the night.

[Edbear]

:killingme do you want some sauce for the chip on your shoulder? I thought we were going to have an interesting debate but you've played the 'you don't understand life the universe and everything card', good luck and goodnight :2thumbsup

PS. Thanks for the red rep. :yawn:

[far queue]

a) We - people on a two wheeled motorised vehiclesWho the hell made you a spokesperson for everyone on said vehicles. You certainly don't speak for me!

[miloking]

Who the hell made you a spokesperson for everyone on said vehicles. You certainly don't speak for me!

No you only are excluded...i forgot to mention that earlier...now stop trolling with your self centered bulshit and GTFO if you have nothing to contribute to the discussion..

[jack_hamma]

What if ?

What if ??

What if ???

What if ????

What we know.... he got away safely :yes:

No one was hurt... huh only the police are hurting lol

[miloking]

Go back and read your post. "Bikers hate cops and cops hate bikers." Rubbish! And your sweeping generalisation that cops will target bikers and pick on them relentlessly for "every tiny thing" is also rubbish!

You personally, and maybe a couple of others on here may, hate cops and break the law every time you ride as a one-fingered salute to authority, and heap vitriol on any copper who dares to pull you over for any offense, but you are being a idiot and doing yourself no favours with your ranting.

Why don't you cool off, turn your brain on and go on patrol with the cops or engage in discussions with those who make the laws. You came across, rightly or wrongly, as a selfish, arrogant anarchist with no respect for authority.


a) cops target bikes...always did and always will be, not sure if its due to bad experience or just small dick syndrome but that doesnt change the fact

b) i dont break law as often as you think, but iam yet to find a decent cop...well that is a lie, i've met about two decent cops in my time and i've admited this before...its the ratio of dickheads vs. good cops that annoys me (about 20:1 at best)

c) iam not angry at all..but discussion with cops never leads anywhere because unless you are one of them they will always see you just as a "customer"

But you are quite right, not sure if iam selfish or arrogant but i do hate authority that i cannot respect...

[Edbear]

a) cops target bikes...always did and always will be, not sure if its due to bad experience or just small dick syndrome but that doesnt change the fact

b) i dont break law as often as you think, but iam yet to find a decent cop...well that is a lie, i've met about two decent cops in my time and i've admited this before...its the ratio of dickheads vs. good cops that annoys me (about 20:1 at best)

c) iam not angry at all..but discussion with cops never leads anywhere because unless you are one of them they will always see you just as a "customer"

But you are quite right, not sure if iam selfish or arrogant but i do hate authority that i cannot respect...

Maybe I'm just plain unlucky. I've been riding bikes for 40 years and never been targetted. I admit to regularly riding at speeds in excess of 160km/h over the years and generally cruising 20 - 30km/h over the limit when I was a bit younger. I've never been stopped while riding, oh, hang on I was stopped at a Reg/Wof checkpoint a couple of years ago but he waved me on without checking mine... I've never had a ticket for anything on my bike.

I have never been patronised, or treated unfairly in any interaction with the Police. I treat the Police with the same respect I treat everyone, maybe that's why I don't seem to have confrontations with anyone...

The answer seems simple, really. Don't break the law, or if you do, accept the consequences. If you don't agree with the law, remove yourself from society or lobby the lawmaker's for change. We have to live in a society and cannot afford anarchy which naturally means we must sacrifice some of our preferences for the general good.

The only way you can rebel without consequence is to live on your own island, provide your own rules for yourself and also provide every single service you require for yourself. You depend upon the society you live in for your very survival, therefore you have to accept that you are not the most important person alive, nor should your preferences and wants take precedence. You are a nobody, just like me, a number in the IRD, your not even a star or a VIP.

People are people - in the Force or out of the Force, in the Ghetto's of South Auckland or in Parliament and there are good and bad everywhere. You will find you will enjoy life much more without so much angst if you develop a more pragmatic attitude.

[miloking]

Maybe I'm just plain unlucky. I've been riding bikes for 40 years and never been targetted. I admit to regularly riding at speeds in excess of 160km/h over the years and generally cruising 20 - 30km/h over the limit when I was a bit younger. I've never been stopped while riding, oh, hang on I was stopped at a Reg/Wof checkpoint a couple of years ago but he waved me on without checking mine... I've never had a ticket for anything on my bike.

I have never been patronised, or treated unfairly in any interaction with the Police. I treat the Police with the same respect I treat everyone, maybe that's why I don't seem to have confrontations with anyone...

The answer seems simple, really. Don't break the law, or if you do, accept the consequences. If you don't agree with the law, remove yourself from society or lobby the lawmaker's for change. We have to live in a society and cannot afford anarchy which naturally means we must sacrifice some of our preferences for the general good.

The only way you can rebel without consequence is to live on your own island, provide your own rules for yourself and also provide every single service you require for yourself. You depend upon the society you live in for your very survival, therefore you have to accept that you are not the most important person alive, nor should your preferences and wants take precedence. You are a nobody, just like me, a number in the IRD, your not even a star or a VIP.

People are people - in the Force or out of the Force, in the Ghetto's of South Auckland or in Parliament and there are good and bad everywhere. You will find you will enjoy life much more without so much angst if you develop a more pragmatic attitude.

I guess you have been bit more lucky than me with the unwanted attention & patronising, but at the same time i must admit i did get away with some rather "naughty" speeds too so maybe iam being unfair and need to see the bigger picture.
But i understand and agree with the rest of what you said, and not sure if i come accross that way but i never implied iam "better" than any of you or that i deserve different treatment, i know we are all just IRD numbers or employee numbers etc..

Also your solution of more pragmatic attitude is a good one for sure....

[Patrick]

There's a school 'not far' from everywhere ffs, sensationalist bullshit :brick:

Do you even know where Eltham and Normanby is? There is life beyond the Bombays.... and schools.... :sunny:


Ohh i think that "blitz" you are talking about has been happening for last 30 years already...cops hate bikers and we hate cops...its pretty simple.
You will persecute us for the smallest of mistakes whenever you get a chance to make up for all the "cocks" that got away.... and we will try to get away for all those times you punished us for nothing, thats the way it is and always will be!

This guy just changed the score +1 to bikers...your move now!

Whats this "you" crap... You don't even know me, or what I do, exactly....

There isn't a blitz on bikers. I am meaning a blitz where any biker, anywhere, will be stopped for WOF/Rego and license checks, any where, any time. Not just at the occasional bike rally.....

Still to "lose" a pursuit. Pulled out of plenty, coz we have to these days.... but got my man every time.... and not a single one was a biker....

As for "taking it out on some other cock..." get real. What has one cocks attitude got to do with anyone else?

Kinda like your attitude toward all cops, I guess. It is how YOU see things.... :facepalm:


... At no point in the roadcode or the civil rights bill in this country does it say that if you drive a modified vehicle that you should expect to be stopped....it's called harassment. I have MANY friends and colleagues who've suffered interrogations for no apparent reason. The funny thing was when I wound down my window, the officers face was a picture, he was expecting some cap on sideways little prick rather than a bespectacled middle age pommy bastard. I asked why I'd been stopped......routine check......that old chestnut.

So your modified car will have a LVV Cert.... and where exactly is this Cert...?[I]

Speeding is a sore point in any country, however my opinion, for what its worth, is that speed isn't the major issue....the biggest issue is poor driving skill and the real killer..... lack of awareness. One day it would be nice if all parties involved in accidents we forced to attend and pass advanced driver training at their own cost before being allowed back on the road.....now THAT would get rid of some numpties.

Yeah, but "everyone else is such a poor driver.... but not me" prevails here in NZ.....


What if ?

What if ??

What if ???

What if ????

What we know.... he got away safely :yes:

No one was hurt... huh only the police are hurting lol

Yeah.... Thats it... hurting.... We are all losing sleep over it. I think some even cried.:violin: FFS.... :yawn:


a) cops target bikes...always did and always will be, not sure if its due to bad experience or just small dick syndrome but that doesnt change the fact

[I]"Always???" Get out of Auckland then. Worked for me.....

b) i dont break law as often as you think, but iam yet to find a decent cop...well that is a lie, i've met about two decent cops in my time and i've admited this before...its the ratio of dickheads vs. good cops that annoys me (about 20:1 at best)

perhaps the problem is you...? I've been stopped by cops, looking forward to meeting this mystical offensive prick, but never had the luck. ALL have been polite and friendly. Hang on - there was this one from Wanganui Highways, he might have been who you refer to... My experience of dickheads to decent is 1:20....

c) iam not angry at all..but discussion with cops never leads anywhere because unless you are one of them they will always see you just as a "customer"

Try smaller centres. Shitties just aren't that great a place to live.....

But you are quite right, not sure if iam selfish or arrogant but i do hate authority that i cannot respect...

Good luck with that. Civil folk get civil treatment. Arseholes get shit. It is all in the book of life.

[Edbear]

...Still to "lose" a pursuit. Pulled out of plenty, coz we have to these days.... but got my man every time.... and not a single one was a biker....

....

This was my point to Smokeu as to how many runners get away with it. Sure, many chases are abandoned but the culprit gets caught later on. Have you got stats on the percentage of runners who do get away completely?

[Patrick]

This was my point to Smokeu as to how many runners get away with it. Sure, many chases are abandoned but the culprit gets caught later on. Have you got stats on the percentage of runners who do get away completely?

Across the country? Nope.

Me personally? None.

[miloking]

Whats this "you" crap... You don't even know me, or what I do, exactly....



The "you" was generalisation ...not you personaly, i dont even know if you are a cop for sure but you sound like one...and now you say you've been in plenty of pursuits and got your man every time...so maybe i wasnt that far away with the "you" comment...





There isn't a blitz on bikers. I am meaning a blitz where any biker, anywhere, will be stopped for WOF/Rego and license checks, any where, any time. Not just at the occasional bike rally.....



I will say only this..CORO LOOP & NELSON BLITZ on bikers..do you want a link to the official press realease about "blitz" on bikers or you just forgot about this????




Still to "lose" a pursuit. Pulled out of plenty, coz we have to these days.... but got my man every time.... and not a single one was a biker....



Nothing against that....its a fair game i guess, but not sure what you mean by got my man every time..




As for "taking it out on some other cock..." get real. What has one cocks attitude got to do with anyone else?

Kinda like your attitude toward all cops, I guess. It is how YOU see things.... :facepalm:



I've had my experiences...where cop i've never seen before starts off after pulling me over with "have i ever stopped you before" sentence...and treats me like i've been warned before so this time its time to teach me lesson.
SO DONT tell me cops dont treat us...peasants like we are all same person!

[Motardman]

PS. Thanks for the red rep. :yawn:

Gotta stay on topic numbnuts, start wittering on about being privileged and not understanding life then red rep you will get :facepalm:

[Edbear]

Gotta stay on topic numbnuts, start wittering on about being privileged and not understanding life then red rep you will get :facepalm:

Go back and read what you wrote.

[Motardman]

Go back and read what you wrote.

Being 'privileged' I'm quite capable of remembering what I wrote.....and I'm sure I said I wasn't going to carry on replying.... +1 on your troll status :niceone: Have fun in bendover for the law land :sunny:

[scumdog]

I've had my experiences...where cop i've never seen before starts off after pulling me over with "have i ever stopped you before" sentence...and treats me like i've been warned before so this time its time to teach me lesson.
SO DONT tell me cops dont treat us...peasants like we are all same person!

See?

You have the 'gift' I mentioned earlier, not sure if I really envy you though...:innocent:

[caseye]

Gotta stay on topic numbnuts, start wittering on about being privileged and not understanding life then red rep you will get :facepalm:

you know around here some of us are exceptionally gifted and others like me are just plain old and stupid.
While reps are able to be given by everyone it's my humble opinion that those who don't know how to use em should not be given the privilage.
Rep's while not important in the overall scheme of things do tend to indicate someones standing in the KB community, after all it's only us rating/slating each other.
If you drop reds that easily your'e probably in for a long haul here as eventually common sense will prevail and you and those of the same ilk on this thread are are not exhibiting much of that currently.
236 KPH anywhere other than on a race track is madness and indicates a total disregard for anyone else using that stretch of road.

[far queue]

No you only are excluded...i forgot to mention that earlier...now stop trolling with your self centered bulshit and GTFO if you have nothing to contribute to the discussion..OK I'll type slowly for you and spell it out since you clearly didn't understand my contribution.

You clearly have a chip on your shoulder for whatever reason and are making sweeping generalisations about ALL motorcyclists and ALL police. From what you say these generalisations appear to be based on YOUR personal experiences. Your life experiences are just that - yours! They're not mine, and not anybody elses. If you feel aggrieved for the way you've been dealt with in the past that's your feeling not everybody elses. So you look a bit silly ranting the way you are and trying to lump everybody in together. Also you don't seem to like people disagreeing with you, so you probably haven't liked this either. Oh well.

As for my personal experiences - I can only recall one tosser of a cop. That was many years ago and he was a young spotty MOT cop who was full of his own self importance and wasn't at all happy that he lost the argument he instigated with me. Since then I've had no problems at all - I've had a few roadside bollockings (that I've deserved), I've had a number of tickets (that I've deserved), I've had a number of polite warnings (where I deserved a ticket). I've also had contact with the police outside of anything traffic related, where I've required their service, and found them to be great. Maybe the approach has something to do with it?

Of course, they're also just people. Every organisation has its share of good bastards and tossers, and everyone has their good days and their bad days.

Here's an idea, why don't you apply to join up and fix the problem you perceive from the inside? Or is complaining easier?

Enough of a contribution for you?

Oh and I have no idea what GTFO means.

[Edbear]

...Oh and I have no idea what GTFO means.

I think I had one of those... The wheel fell off... :yes:

[scumdog]

Oh and I have no idea what GTFO means.

My mate has a Pontiac GTO - maybe it's a bit like one of them??:blink:

[miloking]

OK I'll type slowly for you and spell it out since you clearly didn't understand my contribution.

You clearly have a chip on your shoulder for whatever reason and are making sweeping generalisations about ALL motorcyclists and ALL police. From what you say these generalisations appear to be based on YOUR personal experiences. Your life experiences are just that - yours! They're not mine, and not anybody elses. If you feel aggrieved for the way you've been dealt with in the past that's your feeling not everybody elses. So you look a bit silly ranting the way you are and trying to lump everybody in together. Also you don't seem to like people disagreeing with you, so you probably haven't liked this either. Oh well.

As for my personal experiences - I can only recall one tosser of a cop. That was many years ago and he was a young spotty MOT cop who was full of his own self importance and wasn't at all happy that he lost the argument he instigated with me. Since then I've had no problems at all - I've had a few roadside bollockings (that I've deserved), I've had a number of tickets (that I've deserved), I've had a number of polite warnings (where I deserved a ticket). I've also had contact with the police outside of anything traffic related, where I've required their service, and found them to be great. Maybe the approach has something to do with it?

Of course, they're also just people. Every organisation has its share of good bastards and tossers, and everyone has their good days and their bad days.

Here's an idea, why don't you apply to join up and fix the problem you perceive from the inside? Or is complaining easier?

Enough of a contribution for you?

Oh and I have no idea what GTFO means.

Well thats better, you dont have to be so patronising but nobody is perfect...ok let me tell you something about those experinces that are "just" mine and nobody elses...i can count at least 10+ people from my friends (some of them also ride) that have very similar experience with cops ...e.g 99% of cops they came across were nothing to be desired, mostly arrogant cocks!
(but on the positive side we do get to exchange our "cop" stories and its sometimes bonding experience too)...hell, even my mother hates cops with passion and trust me she doesnt ride a bike.
So yes i did generalise by including you personaly into the "we" statement and perhaps i generalised by saying "all cops hate bikers" but from the "limited survey" of my personal experiences and experiences of people around me i formed my own opinion of NZ Police.

However iam glad that your experience with them was different and i must say it does make me little bit jealous...
Now think how easy it must be for hot girls riding bikes they probably never get tickets at all...

One more thing, i appreciate the suggestion about joining police myself and removing the rot from the inside, its actualy great idea...but iam affraid that my family would disown me so unfortunately it isnt an option...

[miloking]

My mate has a Pontiac GTO - maybe it's a bit like one of them??:blink:

Not quite the same..but i think you know what it means so why dont you do it :bye:

[Patrick]

The "you" was generalisation ...not you personaly, i dont even know if you are a cop for sure but you sound like one...and now you say you've been in plenty of pursuits and got your man every time...so maybe i wasnt that far away with the "you" comment...

Still don't follow... You meaning I hate bikes? Got two of em, so what is this about...??? I hate bikers? Not in these parts. Friendly bunch they are, down here....

I will say only this..CORO LOOP & NELSON BLITZ on bikers..do you want a link to the official press realease about "blitz" on bikers or you just forgot about this????

Coro Loop is just a cesspit of riders falling off their machines all the time, treating the road as a race track. Some just get injured. Some have been worse off.... No wonder it is Policed. As for the Nelson Blitz - no idea what you are talking about. Never been to Nelson - It is on the "to do" list though. I take these two townships form the whole of the North Island and the South Island, for these Nation wide blitzes you are referring to?

Nothing against that....its a fair game i guess, but not sure what you mean by got my man every time..

In every pursuit that I have been in, I have caught up to the offender each and every time. At the time, soon after, or later....

I've had my experiences...where cop i've never seen before starts off after pulling me over with "have i ever stopped you before" sentence...and treats me like i've been warned before so this time its time to teach me lesson.
SO DONT tell me cops dont treat us...peasants like we are all same person!

So you're a shit magnet...? You only attract shit cops, for shit reasons, or shit actions...?

[Edbear]

Well thats better, you dont have to be so patronising but nobody is perfect...ok let me tell you something about those experinces that are "just" mine and nobody elses...i can count at least 10+ people from my friends (some of them also ride) that have very similar experience with cops ...e.g 99% of cops they came across were nothing to be desired, mostly arrogant cocks!
(but on the positive side we do get to exchange our "cop" stories and its sometimes bonding experience too)...hell, even my mother hates cops with passion and trust me she doesnt ride a bike.
So yes i did generalise by including you personaly into the "we" statement and perhaps i generalised by saying "all cops hate bikers" but from the "limited survey" of my personal experiences and experiences of people around me i formed my own opinion of NZ Police.

However iam glad that your experience with them was different and i must say it does make me little bit jealous...
Now think how easy it must be for hot girls riding bikes they probably never get tickets at all...

One more thing, i appreciate the suggestion about joining police myself and removing the rot from the inside, its actualy great idea...but iam affraid that my family would disown me so unfortunately it isnt an option...

Sounds a bit like it's a family trait! You could be the one to break the mold.

[scumdog]

Not quite the same..but i think you know what it means so why dont you do it :bye:

And miss the fun here?:shit:

Bugger-off!!

[scumdog]

So you're a shit magnet...? You only attract shit cops, for shit reasons, or shit actions...?

I keep telling him he has a 'gift' for that.
Not to be scorned - but not to be envied either!:blink:

[yod]

One more thing, i appreciate the suggestion about joining police myself and removing the rot from the inside, its actualy great idea...but iam affraid that my family would disown me so unfortunately it isnt an option...

i'm so sorry, it must be a nightmare living with an utterly childish family like that....

[Teflon]

Well thats better, you dont have to be so patronising but nobody is perfect...ok let me tell you something about those experinces that are "just" mine and nobody elses...i can count at least 10+ people from my friends (some of them also ride) that have very similar experience with cops ...e.g 99% of cops they came across were nothing to be desired, mostly arrogant cocks!
(but on the positive side we do get to exchange our "cop" stories and its sometimes bonding experience too)...hell, even my mother hates cops with passion and trust me she doesnt ride a bike.
So yes i did generalise by including you personaly into the "we" statement and perhaps i generalised by saying "all cops hate bikers" but from the "limited survey" of my personal experiences and experiences of people around me i formed my own opinion of NZ Police.

However iam glad that your experience with them was different and i must say it does make me little bit jealous...
Now think how easy it must be for hot girls riding bikes they probably never get tickets at all...

One more thing, i appreciate the suggestion about joining police myself and removing the rot from the inside, its actualy great idea...but iam affraid that my family would disown me so unfortunately it isnt an option...

I think it's great theyre arrogant pricks. If they were a bunch of pussys, every cunt would walk over them. I've never had a problem with them. I know the rules, and if I get caught breaking them, fuck it, take it on the chin...

[miloking]

Sounds a bit like it's a family trait! You could be the one to break the mold.

Well thats the thing, i always though its not family trait but more like.."national trait"... but tell you what, next constable that pulls me over will get nothing but polite & friendly treatment from me regardless of if i get ticket or not...so lets see how that works first.

[miloking]

I think it's great theyre arrogant pricks. If they were a bunch of pussys, every cunt would walk over them. I've never had a problem with them. I know the rules, and if I get caught breaking them, fuck it, take it on the chin...

I think thats the actual problem, they should be able to rely on LAWs to back them up so "every cunt" doesnt walk over them...NOT arrogance!

[Patrick]

Never been accused of arrogance in 25 years.... Unless it's behind your back 5 minutes after one has driven off, as is often the way.... :shutup:

And do you think the laws really back us up????????

I have had two broken noses (a King Cobra Gang member during a brawl and a pissed "off duty" cop), a busted thumb (a shithead on a stolen bike who tried to crack me over the head with the helmet he had), disarmed a knife wielding arse who wanted to stick me (coz he was showing off for his mates), and a few smacks to the face (one while stopping a wanker kicking over motorbikes while on plain clothes beat duty... boy did he get a surprise... :innocent:).

Never once started anything, with arrogance or anything remotely like it....

And the biggest penalty dished out for any of these?

A $300 fine. And that went to the cop (who also lost his job...).

[Edbear]

Never been accused of arrogance in 25 years.... Unless it's behind your back 5 minutes after one has driven off, as is often the way.... :shutup:

And do you think the laws really back us up????????

I have had two broken noses (a King Cobra Gang member during a brawl and a pissed "off duty" cop), a busted thumb (a shithead on a stolen bike who tried to crack me over the head with the helmet he had), disarmed a knife wielding arse who wanted to stick me (coz he was showing off for his mates), and a few smacks to the face (one while stopping a wanker kicking over motorbikes while on plain clothes beat duty... boy did he get a surprise... :innocent:).

Never once started anything, with arrogance or anything remotely like it....

And the biggest penalty dished out for any of these?

A $300 fine. And that went to the cop (who also lost his job...).

Careful there Patrick, you'll have people thinking you don't have a sweet ride just sitting around handing out tickets and actually deal with real people and real situations involving scumbags... :blink: