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slofox
9th November 2010, 15:16
Just curious here...

HealTech Electronics have offered me a half price deal on one of their FI doovers - sort of equivalent to a power commander - does the same sort of job. Nice offer to make up for the fiasco we have had with the speedohealer - but that is to be the subject of a forthcoming post...

Whilst this makes the cost of purchase cheap, the device really needs to be mapped on a dyno. Which brings me to the question - what sort of price does this kind of service come at? No point in getting the gadget cheap if you can't afford the set-up costs...

Any and all replies gratefully accepted and no correspondence will be entered into...:p

White trash
9th November 2010, 15:49
Depends on the type of dyno and how detailed in tune you want to go.

For instance, Ray Clee did my race bike on his Factory Pro, setting it up at 10% throttle, 25%, 50%, 75% and 100% at 500rpm increments from about 4 to 13.5K on the tach. That's a shitload of Dyno runs.

Wellington Motorcycles can do similar down here but their Dynamometer requires the bike to be partially disassembled and fitted to the dyno. This gives far more accurate comparisons but adds considerably to the set-up time and therefore the cost.

Or, you can just roll onto a Dyno-Jet, strap the bike down, give a full throttle fang in 4th gear a couple of times and roll it off after a couple of adjustments. Might cost 300 bucks.

You pays for what you gets........l

johan
9th November 2010, 16:03
For instance, Ray Clee did my race bike on his Factory Pro, setting it up at 10% throttle, 25%, 50%, 75% and 100% at 500rpm increments from about 4 to 13.5K on the tach. That's a shitload of Dyno runs.


Holy revlimiter! That's about 90 dyno runs or so!?

But I think it makes sense to have a smooth fuelmap around where you roll on the throttle leaned over rather than at wide open throttle. So the 5-50% throttle range is important and makes sense.

The only dyno I've been to did a wide open throttle run and tried different internet maps.
Almost wasted time, but it also gave me a print of the Air/Fuel ratio which was good.

slofox
9th November 2010, 16:06
Depends on the type of dyno and how detailed in tune you want to go.

For instance, Ray Clee did my race bike on his Factory Pro, setting it up at 10% throttle, 25%, 50%, 75% and 100% at 500rpm increments from about 4 to 13.5K on the tach. That's a shitload of Dyno runs.

Wellington Motorcycles can do similar down here but their Dynamometer requires the bike to be partially disassembled and fitted to the dyno. This gives far more accurate comparisons but adds considerably to the set-up time and therefore the cost.

Or, you can just roll onto a Dyno-Jet, strap the bike down, give a full throttle fang in 4th gear a couple of times and roll it off after a couple of adjustments. Might cost 300 bucks.

You pays for what you gets........l

Right...Thanks WT. According to the HealTech website, this doover can be mapped at up to eleven throttle settings in 500rpm increments...

Gremlin
9th November 2010, 16:24
Best you first find someone that can work with the device, then ask them how much it would cost.

My PCIII on my old ZX10 was setup by Brett Roberts while he was still in NZ, and he made 2 maps, one for baffle, one for no baffle, as it made a big difference in the tuning and breathing of the bike. I then swapped the maps using the software and my laptop. Total cost was somewhere around $400-500 from memory, but it was 3-4 years ago.

onearmedbandit
9th November 2010, 16:32
Setting my bike up with my yoshi ems cost me around $650, we did about 27km on the dyno. Work was carried out by Red from RRR down here.

NordieBoy
9th November 2010, 18:26
Or, you can just roll onto a Dyno-Jet, strap the bike down, give a full throttle fang in 4th gear a couple of times and roll it off after a couple of adjustments. Might cost 300 bucks.

You pays for what you gets........l

Or roll it onto a DynoJet and do some full throttle fangs, some steady-state runs at various loads and revs working out throttle % at various revs and a/f at those points etc etc etc etc...

Just like on a "real" dyno.

Sensei
9th November 2010, 19:31
The 136 rwhp Dual map that I am using at the moment has being mapped at ever 250rpm increments , also have a blended 129 rwhp single fuel table map which was done at 500rpm increments , the difference is very noticeable between the two .

doc
9th November 2010, 19:38
Tripplezee has a Factorypro brake dyno, I think he is about $100 hr dyno time if you do all the adjustments when the dyno is not running. I'm a little skeptical of a Dynojet, when you have to tell the computer what bike is on it.

Smifffy
9th November 2010, 19:57
I'm interested in this too - thanks to the shortcomings mentioned in the cruiser thread.

Unfortunately not until the new year now, thanks to time & money constraints. Perhaps we could get a Waikato/BOP bulk deal?
lol