Slowing rust progression

[XxKiTtiExX]

Right, didn't know where else to put this due to it not really involving a motorbike (mods can shift thread where ever they see fit).

Would just like some advice without being made feel/treated like I'm dumb. (so please only genuine input and no attacks).


Before my dad passed he handed over a classic car to my brother, at age 15 he's never know what the hell to do with it. (It needs a lot of time consuming work that at the moment he doesn't have the skills, know how, workshop or funds to achieve this. If he decides not to bother I'm at a point now where I am willing to attempt the job myself with guidance of course).

The car has sat there since. I took it upon myself to finallyl build a spectacular northland style skyline garage for it. So now it is at least not sitting out in the weather anymore.

I have been advised to mix 50/50 motor oil and diesel in a spray pack to coat the whole underside etc of the car to help slow rust progression until the time comes where said car to be finally restored (dad restored another old car in far worse condition so I do know that it is still possible).

Anyway, thoughts and opinions on the 50/50 spray. Old mans tale? Any other ideas other than crushing it because its a car or setting it alight.

Thanks :)

[Mully]

Yeah - that'll do it. Plus a good way to get rid of your used oil.....

There are commercial preparations that do the same thing - I think based on fish oil.

My sister once bought an XA Falcon from the original owner - he'd sprayed oil all over the internals of the panels. It used to weep oil out from behind the badges.

Put simply, rust is oxidisation of the metal. Prevent oxygen getting to the metal - prevent rust.

[Swoop]

There are commercial preparations that do the same thing - I think based on fish oil.
You think rightly.
http://www.productspec.net/products/6356/wattyl-nz/killrust-fishoilene.aspx

[hayd3n]

fish oil from supa churp or ripco
my m8 just did the inside of his panels on a old mr2

[XxKiTtiExX]

The original car dad did I do remember the use of fishoilene (was used to line all the interior of the car floors etc before any new carpet etc was put in). Thanks guys.

[The Pastor]

parking the car inside helps alot (as long as its not damp!).

Putting a cover on the car while outside IMO is worse than leaving it out side for two reasons.

1. Water gets under cover and can't evaporate off.
2. covers out side flap around in the wind, scuffing paint etc. (over time)


A cover in a dry garage would help keep the car not dusty :)

I would inspect the car and remove any surface rust you can see and then put some rust killler stuff you get from repco/supercrap, then the oil stuff.

Note rain will wash the oil away so if the car is outside you might need to do it every 3 months etc

[mattian]

WD-40 is one of my best friends, speshly come winter time.

[hellokitty]

You could also run a dehumidifier in the garage - I do that sometimes if the bikes are damp or if we have painted something........... takes the moisture out of the air.


What kind of car is it?

[XxKiTtiExX]

Okay when I say "northland style garage" I mean a few posts, tin *cough* shack lol we have no proper garage available at present (not until we sell and move anyway which could take some time but definately on the cards). But at least being covered over is a start.

A mess but definately still restoreable. Will sort some stuff for it on thursday and get the hands dirty.
:yes:

[AllanB]

WD40.

Smells nice too. :yes:

[FROSTY]

Sorry folks I don't agree at all.The phrase rust never sleeps stands.
Kitty what you need is any one of the paint on rust CONVERTER products.
Theres a fair few of em on the market. The stuff I use is from Malco.
Its in a 500ml bottle. You just pour some out into a suitable container and paint it directly onto the rusty parts. It will go on a white color but as it eats into the rust it turns black. This is a permenant type fix

[XxKiTtiExX]

Sorry folks I don't agree at all.The phrase rust never sleeps stands.
Kitty what you need is any one of the paint on rust CONVERTER products.
Theres a fair few of em on the market. The stuff I use is from Malco.
Its in a 500ml bottle. You just pour some out into a suitable container and paint it directly onto the rusty parts. It will go on a white color but as it eats into the rust it turns black. This is a permenant type fix

At the moment the car is in a position where I wouldn't be capable at all of getting in underneath the car, so I may still need to attempt using something in a spray pack. Which I'm still thinking old motoroil/diesel.

Will look into this for on the body of the car. Would it be able to be sprayed through a weed sprayer nozzle or is the stuff way to thick?

[98tls]

Dupli color make a product called "Rust Fix" go figure.Have used it many times both on old and not so old stuff with great success,bit like Frosty posted the rust turns black.Comes in a 4oz spray can.

[george formby]

At the moment the car is in a position where I wouldn't be capable at all of getting in underneath the car, so I may still need to attempt using something in a spray pack. Which I'm still thinking old motoroil/diesel.

Will look into this for on the body of the car. Would it be able to be sprayed through a weed sprayer nozzle or is the stuff way to thick?

I used to spray the underside, inner chasis etc of my Hi Lux with old oil & kerosene. Used a paint spray gun, big, flattened nozzle & compressor. I pulled the rubbers out & filled the sills, squirted the nooks & crannies & removed the door linings to spray the inside with deodirised fish oil. 3 years hammered up & down tokerau beach & ninety mile beach, boat launching etc with no deterioration.
Make sure the car is as dry as possible if you do it, any water in welds etc will stay their once its sprayed.

[Laava]

Do NOT use diesel as it contains too much sulphur and will end up causing rust. I think George has the best solution for you until you can get a good go at it and do it properly. What kind of car is it?

[Motig]

Weed sprayer should work fine. You just might have to experiment to get the mixture right, Probably as much oil as possible with just enough kerosene to thin it enough to spray.

[nadroj]

Used the rust converter (Wurth) on a chassis a few months ago. A little goes a long way - it is thin & goes on with a paint brush, spreads out easily & I used about 100ml on a truck chassis.

[george formby]

Used the rust converter (Wurth) on a chassis a few months ago. A little goes a long way - it is thin & goes on with a paint brush, spreads out easily & I used about 100ml on a truck chassis.

Might be a good idea to use rust converter on the rusty bits first, let it react & cure then spray the oily spoodge over the top. Probably last forever unless it's a Fiat.

[Pixie]

If the car is parked on grass or an unsealed drive,move it.
A lot of moisture rises out of thew ground an condenses on the undercarriage of vehicles at night