Helmet cameras

[Eddieb]

I see Oregon Scientific has released a new 1080P HD camera

http://www.photodigital.co.nz/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1048

$569
Remote Control
LCD viewfinder display
Optional GPS Module enables users to map their location, speed and distance traveled using Google Maps or Google Earth on playback.
waterproof

etc.

[pampa]

yeap so it on a bike magazine, looks nice ...

[Padmei]

Speaking of videos & cameras etc - What video editing software ar eyou guys using? I've got Window7 & using windows live movie maker but plays up (only saves 89% of movie before freezing)

Anyone have any free software recommendations?

cheers
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[pampa]

Speaking of videos & cameras etc - What video editing software ar eyou guys using? I've got Window7 & using windows live movie maker but plays up (only saves 89% of movie before freezing)

Anyone have any free software recommendations?

cheers
P

I do but u won't like it ... I use Linux never such problems, neither worry about antivirus and the memroy and cpu they use ... otherwise OSX but it requires to buy computer as well :facepalm:....

[NordieBoy]

I do but u won't like it ... I use Linux never such problems, neither worry about antivirus and the memroy and cpu they use ... otherwise OSX but it requires to buy computer as well :facepalm:....

But what editing software?

[Padmei]

I do but u won't like it ... I use Linux never such problems, neither worry about antivirus and the memroy and cpu they use ... otherwise OSX but it requires to buy computer as well :facepalm:....

Ok didn't understand a word of that sorry.

[NordieBoy]

A bit pricey but at least it's got a 135 deg FOV.
Much much better than the old ATC's

[Eddieb]

I've been using Windows Live Movie Maker also. Mine gets a bit unstable if I'm trying to glue too many videos together but otherwise works ok.

[Padmei]

I've been using Windows Live Movie Maker also. Mine gets a bit unstable if I'm trying to glue too many videos together but otherwise works ok.

Ahh that may be the prob-too many splits in the tape. It senses the sellotape & won't go past it.

[pampa]

Ok didn't understand a word of that sorry.

No worries, but in short "there is a better world" :yes:

[NordieBoy]

No worries, but in short "there is a better world" :yes:

And what editing software do you in the better world?

[Waihou Thumper]

I use Easy Media Creator suite 10. I have both 8 and 10 on my system and it works well. The rendering does take up Computer power though and I have found it is a last thing to do, no disturbances and shut all other programmes down in the background...:)
I just have to get a fancy HD Camera now...

[Waihou Thumper]

A bit pricey but at least it's got a 135 deg FOV.
Much much better than the old ATC's

I agree.....Throw a useless gadget on the camera and increase the price. The Price I see on Trade me at the moment is $485, I think. The Hero HD is well worth the $400 approx for the almost HD version. I am happy with my Tachyon, works fine, but the microphone is really sensitive.....wind, bike, burp, fart...:) All seems to be picked up...

[twisty]

I using the Vista movie maker and it works fine, XP worked fine too. I tried a hole bunch a few years back and unless you wanted to spend a lot of time (most seemed to have a lot of trouble with aliasing) getting more advanced settings, Movie maker was free and easy. All I want to do is get rid of the crappy bits and compress down to a reasonable size.

That camera looks awesome

[NordieBoy]

I use Blender but am looking for a more user friendly package.

[Taz]

I've use windows movie maker and Its easy as. If I can use it it must be simple :)

[slofox]

I've use windows movie maker and Its easy as. If I can use it it must be simple :)

Wot 'e said...I use it too without problems (apart from laziness on my part...).

This camera looks way better than my fucking useless ATC2K...:angry:

[Ntoxcated]

Vista's Windows Movie Maker is different to Windows Live Movie Maker that you get with Windows 7. Both reasonably intuitive to use, but the Windows Live version is much more unstable - especially with longer videos. You can download Vista's version to run on Windows 7, however it does not support the new Media Center video format.

[oldguy]

I got one of these out of China, cost me $230 at the time i got it, that was to my door.
Picture quality is not to bad, its no 1080p Hi Def
but im happy with it, and it can stand up to the bumps.

http://www.ecplaza.net/tradeleads/seller/7129135/eagle_eye_mini_dvr_pv912.html#none

some clips Ive done,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RhSwvOEfTA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q66NDaDp5e0

All my editng is done, using Windows movie maker on my Vista.

[Eddieb]

I got one of these out of China, cost me $230 at the time i got it, that was to my door.
Picture quality is not to bad, its no 1080p Hi Def
but im happy with it, and it can stantup to the bumps.

http://www.ecplaza.net/tradeleads/seller/7129135/eagle_eye_mini_dvr_pv912.html#none

some clips Ive done,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RhSwvOEfTA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q66NDaDp5e0

All my editng is done, using Windows movie maker on my Vista.

Thats not the same camera you've linked to, the camera is your link is only standard resolution.

[oldguy]

Thats not the same camera you've linked to, the camera is your link is only standard resolution.

I did say its NOT hi Res.

Here is where I got it from

http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/omnicam-mini-camcorder-dvr-kit-sony-ccd/

[Smifffy]

Regardless of how good this one might be, after owning an ATC2K, I would never buy anything Oregon scientific again.

[Eddieb]

I did say its NOT hi Res.

Here is where I got it from

http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/omnicam-mini-camcorder-dvr-kit-sony-ccd/

:facepalm: indeed you did, I think I was having a moment.

That looks pretty bloody good for the price.

[NordieBoy]

This camera looks way better than my fucking useless ATC2K...:angry:

Want another one? :innocent:

[slofox]

Want another one? :innocent:

Another 2K? Nah, she's right thanks...

[twisty]

My desktop at work is 2008 R2 (server version of Win7). I installed the Vista movie maker using the link below and it works fine. I have been told this works for Win 7 too

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/confirmation.aspx?familyid=d6ba5972-328e-4df7-8f9d-068fc0f80cfc&displaylang=en

[BoristheBiter]

I use Cyberlink power director 8 and have no problems but i have a new, very good laptop as the high def stuff takes a lot of power to run smoothly.
Also most of the high def vids are .MOV (H.264) format so a lot of the free software is not compatable.

[NordieBoy]

Just got a stable version of Kdenlive compiled and going.
Easier to use than Blender but not as flexible.

[Waihou Thumper]

The VIO POV 1.5 I have uses four batteries, I get over 6 hours recording to the battery life if I use high quality ones. The Eneloops I use are awesome, maybe 7 hours tops, longer than the life of the SD Card, (8Gb max)
I orderded an attachament for the back that replaces the batteries. I can now poer the camera from the battery direct with the spade adapters or use the cigarette lighter attachment. Both come with a nice spiral cable and it is long enough to have the camera on the bars or in the back of the jacket. :)
Battery life is a thing of the past. If I leave the bike, the unit unplugs, I then have to insert batteries if I want to film something away from the bike.
All of these attachments are compatible with the new 1.5HD when available, but for now the one I have is really awesome. :)

On a side note.....
I loaned the camera to the guys for their ride down south for three weeks. Day 2, I get a phone call....:shit:
"I can't get this thing to work properly" :)
Turns out it is really technical for a 'technophobe'........even with the instructions given two weeks prior to departure....:woohoo: I wonder if we will get any good footage? Fingers crossed....

I plan on mounting the cable, then running it up the side of the rear shrouds through to the seat, it will sit there, ready to plug in and out. Power on the go. It is fused and the power draw is low, much like the GPS unit on the battery too.

[Mungatoke Mad]

I've just purchased a V.O.I P.O.V 1.5 online still waiting for it to arrive looking forward to putting it through it's paces gunna be a big improvement on my Non shock proof handy Cam duct taped to me helmet & I'me gunna save shit loads on duct tape. .

[Waihou Thumper]

I've just purchased a V.O.I P.O.V 1.5 online still waiting for it to arrive looking forward to putting it through it's paces gunna be a big improvement on my Non shock proof handy Cam duct taped to me helmet & I'me gunna save shit loads on duct tape. .

You will like it, any problems and issues let me know....:)

[Buyasta]

Just got a stable version of Kdenlive compiled and going.
Easier to use than Blender but not as flexible.
Obviously this is rather late, but I'd recommend Cinelerra (http://cinelerra.org/) if you're after a professional grade OSS video editing tool. I haven't gotten around to trying it myself since I almost never do any video editing, but a friend who is does a lot of video work uses it extensively, and he does some pretty awesome stuff including chroma keying and 3D anaglyph.

[NordieBoy]

Obviously this is rather late, but I'd recommend Cinelerra (http://cinelerra.org/) if you're after a professional grade OSS video editing tool. I haven't gotten around to trying it myself since I almost never do any video editing, but a friend who is does a lot of video work uses it extensively, and he does some pretty awesome stuff including chroma keying and 3D anaglyph.

Never had much luck with Cinelerra. Blender works fine but is a bit over-blown for what I need and kdenlive is drag n drop and does the trimming, transitions, volume control, fade to black and titling I usually use.

[Waihou Thumper]

I was trying a new mounting scheme for the Vio camera 1.5. Had it all set up on the indicator stalk and looking good, then....
The front wheel rotated and crushed the cable with the pins etc.....:angry2:Is there anyone out there that could replace the pins/plug and still retain the head unit. OR does anyone know of someone clever with video hardware? repairs...
The camera looks hard wired inside to the cable, otherwise maybe that could be replaced?
The unit has been discontinued but there are spare cameras around $199 USD! :shit:

Such a Piss off!

[2wheeled Gasman]

I think everyone should forget every other camera and just get the best well proven GOPRO HD2. Any kind of mounting taken care of, all you need is imagination, and at the cost of some of these cams that you guys are talking about the GoPro is a barg. GoPro have a free download of Cineform editing software, I personally use MS moviemaker with no problems on length of vid, and have been recommended Cyberlink Power director (havent had a chance to give this a go yet) and just to top things off, a very good forum site for GoPro users with any question answered and shown so very innovative mounts and camera angles.:Punk:

http://goprouser.freeforums.org/tips-tricks-and-diy-customizations-all-models-f5.html

http://goprouser.freeforums.org/pc-f7.html (http://goprouser.freeforums.org/tips-tricks-and-diy-customizations-all-models-f5.html)

[NordieBoy]

I think everyone should forget every other camera and just get the best well proven GOPRO HD2.

Too much fisheye. Although the new HD2 has some narrower options which should reduce it a bit...

[Waihou Thumper]

I think everyone should forget every other camera and just get the best well proven GOPRO HD2. Any kind of mounting taken care of, all you need is imagination, and at the cost of some of these cams that you guys are talking about the GoPro is a barg. GoPro have a free download of Cineform editing software, I personally use MS moviemaker with no problems on length of vid, and have been recommended Cyberlink Power director (havent had a chance to give this a go yet) and just to top things off, a very good forum site for GoPro users with any question answered and shown so very innovative mounts and camera angles.:Punk:

http://goprouser.freeforums.org/tips-tricks-and-diy-customizations-all-models-f5.html

(http://goprouser.freeforums.org/tips-tricks-and-diy-customizations-all-models-f5.html)http://goprouser.freeforums.org/pc-f7.html

Wasn't what I was asking....This is not a what is best question....And FYI, I have one....
But never mind.

[2wheeled Gasman]

Too much fisheye. Although the new HD2 has some narrower options which should reduce it a bit...

There is a flat lens that is available in glass and plastic, this is mainly for scuba diving as the light refraction lessens the definition, dont forget this cam is waterproof to 60m

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=gopro+flat+lens

[2wheeled Gasman]

Wasn't what I was asking....This is not a what is best question....And FYI, I have one....
But never mind.

I know that wasn't the question , and I'm glad that you now have the best outdoor action camera on the market as you obviously have realized<_<

[Waihou Thumper]

and I'm glad that you now have the best outdoor action camera on the market as you obviously have realized<_<

whatever mate, thanks for your valuable imput...

[2wheeled Gasman]

whatever mate, thanks for your valuable imput...

Some people were asking about editing software ,and :bleh:

[NordieBoy]

The GoPro needs loop recording and a wireless remote.

[Padmei]

Y'all can stick your bloody helmet cams - I've got a criked neck from getting Nordies caught on blackberry vines & twisting my head back.

Still I can see now where I missed a spot on the ceiling :rolleyes:

[2wheeled Gasman]

The GoPro needs loop recording and a wireless remote.

Don't know about any loop recording but I guess that with the battery bacpac its really only good for about 4.5 hrs anyway, and a 32gb card is its limit ( dont know of anyone using a bigger card) , you could hard wire a mini usb power cable but as you said "no loop recording" but wireless remote is available in Feb and maybe that will be able to stream wireless to a bigger harddrive ruling out the need to loop record and save all footage.
The wireless backpack will let you see what the cam is viewing to your smartphone and wireless stream to any wireless device, allowing the control of 50 cams ( matrix slowmo rotation scenes )

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericsavitz/2012/01/10/ces-from-gopro-video-cams-for-bikers-surgeons-umpires/

[Eddieb]

The GoPro needs loop recording and a wireless remote.

I believe the new one does loop recording. No remote yet that I am aware of though.

[NordieBoy]

No hardwiring, I want wireless. Hardwiring looses waterproofedness...

The wifi backpac means you can't use a 2nd battery but means you have a wireless remote so you don't need as much battery life.

16Gb of storage is plenty for 720p @ 25fps and almost 5 hrs of footage.

[Mungatoke Mad]

I think everyone should forget every other camera and just get the best well proven GOPRO HD2. Any kind of mounting taken care of, all you need is imagination, and at the cost of some of these cams that you guys are talking about the GoPro is a barg. GoPro have a free download of Cineform editing software, I personally use MS moviemaker with no problems on length of vid, and have been recommended Cyberlink Power director (havent had a chance to give this a go yet) and just to top things off, a very good forum site for GoPro users with any question answered and shown so very innovative mounts and camera angles.:Punk:Ahh but they are bigger bulkier & more likely 2 snag up on branches vines etc. & much less survivable in a crash my V.I.O bullet cam captures all the crash as well as the swear words & hits 4rom rocks .It mounts on the side of helmet /hardly noticeable/ cable runs inside my jacket 2 the viewer so I can check the footage & not wait till I get home 2 find out the angle is wrong Ohh & they have had wireless remote for years.

[2wheeled Gasman]

Ahh but they are bigger bulkier & more likely 2 snag up on branches vines etc. & much less survivable in a crash my V.I.O bullet cam captures all the crash as well as the swear words & hits 4rom rocks .It mounts on the side of helmet /hardly noticeable/ cable runs inside my jacket 2 the viewer so I can check the footage & not wait till I get home 2 find out the angle is wrong Ohh & they have had wireless remote for years.

They maybe bigger than some cams out there, but I can testify to their ability to survive crashes ( admit to only crashing on my MTB) and the LCD backpac is a good viewer for cam angle and reviewing footage after the aforementioned crash! :laugh:
The remote that will be available will wireless stream to multiple devices such as the TV , your mates smart phone or even stream to the cloud via your smartphone mobile internet so everyone can see your mishaps:niceone:
yet to be proven, though all theory until they release this wireless remote bacpac:msn-wink:
Yes I admit to being bias with Gopro, tried a few cams now and the possibilities of mounting the cam to absolutely anything and its robustness has convinced me so.:niceone:

[NordieBoy]

They maybe bigger than some cams out there, but I can testify to their ability to survive crashes.

They'll survive alright but get them snagged on some blackberry or creeper and they'll be pointing at the sky until the next time you stop and take your helmet off.

Or even cause a crash when they snag if mounted on the top of the helmet.

[NordieBoy]

I believe the new one does loop recording. No remote yet that I am aware of though.

Nope. Still lacking it apparently.

Remote with the wifi backpac coming in US summer...

[Dave h]

Just a quick heads up for anyone that's been trying to get one local.

I got one today from burkes cycles in wgtn, they got some in this afternoon.

Havent had a play yet (tomorrow) but it does 127 fov at 1080p

[NordieBoy]

I believe the new one does loop recording. No remote yet that I am aware of though.

Thought I'd bring this thread back to life.

The Hero 3 Black does loop recording and has wifi for the remote built in.

The wifi back/remote for the Hero 1 & 2 sucks the battery dry at the same rate paused as recording so you have to hit the stop button between good bits.

It can take 10-30 secs for it to pick the camera back up again when starting it again, but I use that time to get a drink before attempting whatever was worth recording...

[ADVGD]

The wifi back/remote for the Hero 1 & 2 sucks the battery dry at the same rate paused as recording so you have to hit the stop button between good bits.


The Black 3 also sucks the battery dry fast with wifi. I don't even use my remote as I can't even get 50 mins record time from a fully charged battery without the remote. I have to resort to carrying numerous spare and charged batteries.

Regarding photo quality from the Black 3, ok to fairly average. It struggles in high light contrasting situations and often suffers from lens flare. In the following video I took all the still photos (and video) with the Black 3

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Overall it takes generally good video in most settings, just dismally disappointed to go through so much screwing around and wait so long to for the continually extended release date of the Black Edition, pay the better part of $900 for the camera, batteries, accessories etc only to find that they have excessively reduced the weight and size to the detriment of the battery life. Fine for some sports/hobbies/sex tapes :) but 50 mins is not ideal for adventure riding.

[BoristheBiter]

The Black 3 also sucks the battery dry fast with wifi. I don't even use my remote as I can't even get 50 mins record time from a fully charged battery without the remote. I have to resort to carrying numerous spare and charged batteries.

Regarding photo quality from the Black 3, ok to fairly average. It struggles in high light contrasting situations and often suffers from lens flare. In the following video I took all the still photos (and video) with the Black 3


Overall it takes generally good video in most settings, just dismally disappointed to go through so much screwing around and wait so long to for the continually extended release date of the Black Edition, pay the better part of $900 for the camera, batteries, accessories etc only to find that they have excessively reduced the weight and size to the detriment of the battery life. Fine for some sports/hobbies/sex tapes :) but 50 mins is not ideal for adventure riding.

Sounds like I was right to stay with the old drift hd170.
better picture and longer battery life. but it still takes all night to charge.

[NordieBoy]

I'm still looking for a 2nd hand Hero 2 :cool:

[NordieBoy]

Well, I've got my 2nd hand Hero2...

So now it's...
1. HD Hero
2. HD Hero2
3. Contour Roam HD
4. Contour GPS

and for testing porpoises only...
5. Hero 4 (not silver, white, black, session, + or anything else)

The Hero2 is much better in low light than the original and uses the WiFi back/remote better.
The Hero 4 however is not removable from it's case, no wifi, no replaceable battery, 720p 50fps or 1080p 25 fps and takes some quite good footage.
I like the huge reduction in fisheye...
318766

RRP about $250 and it goes quite well.
I want 720p 25fps though.
Although, as the battery is only good for 2:30 and 720p 50fps fits about 2:30 on a 16gb card, that's not much of an issue.

[Night Falcon]

With all them cameras we will be expecting some cool action videos - don't even mind if they have gorse in them. I'm buying my 1st proper camera tomorrow - its a Lumix FZ1000. Gonna start trying to learn how to do stills now that I've mastered the motion picture lark.....not!