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mashman
15th November 2010, 10:29
Seems like a bit of an insult to me (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20101114/tuk-war-widow-pension-cuts-just-plain-wr-45dbed5.html) wonder if the pollies have cut their pension yet? probably not... Would this affect NZ, being part of the crown and all?

Dave Lobster
15th November 2010, 11:09
Curious they haven't cut the foreign aid bill.

mashman
15th November 2010, 11:19
I'm pretty sure there are a lot of things that need to and could be cut before you start picking on those who have defended the freedom of their country and their retirement fund... Unfortunately it's probably too much like hard work and they're an easy target. Wonder if the soldiers will go on strike?

Oscar
15th November 2010, 11:50
Seems like a bit of an insult to me (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20101114/tuk-war-widow-pension-cuts-just-plain-wr-45dbed5.html) wonder if the pollies have cut their pension yet? probably not... Would this affect NZ, being part of the crown and all?

Part of the Crown?
Who are you?
Ruyard Kipling?

New Zealand is an independant dominon, and our head of state just happens to also be the head of state of some fading kingdom in the North Sea.

mashman
15th November 2010, 12:18
Part of the Crown?
Who are you?
Ruyard Kipling?

New Zealand is an independant dominon, and our head of state just happens to also be the head of state of some fading kingdom in the North Sea.

:rofl: you really wouldn't like the answer to that question :yes:...

So does that mean the UK pensions debacle will affect NZ war pensions or not? I seek enlightenment :), being new here and all... I would have expected more from a Curmudgeon.

admenk
15th November 2010, 13:39
Part of the Crown?

New Zealand is an independant dominon, and our head of state just happens to also be the head of state of some fading kingdom in the North Sea.

But it's also a convenient phrase the NZ Government like to use when they bring in anything that might not be universally liked. Makes it sound like you're dealing with that fading kingdom you mention, when really it's NZer's all along - unless there's still some legal reason for the term being used.

MisterD
15th November 2010, 14:17
wonder if the pollies have cut their pension yet?

Well if you read the article you will see that what is happening is that they are changing the index-linking on all public sector pensions from the RPI to CPI (both measures of inflation but the CPI doesn't included housing costs and is usually a lower number) so that would include the pollies and the civil service.

It just looks to me like the opposition and media have picked one group with a lot of public support to produce an anti-government story.

mashman
15th November 2010, 14:26
Well if you read the article you will see that what is happening is that they are changing the index-linking on all public sector pensions from the RPI to CPI (both measures of inflation but the CPI doesn't included housing costs and is usually a lower number) so that would include the pollies and the civil service.

It just looks to me like the opposition and media have picked one group with a lot of public support to produce an anti-government story.

It doesn't say all. It just says "Widows and injured personnel will be affected by reforms to public sector pensions". That, to me, does not mean all, but I see how it could to others :yes:.

Whichever way you want to slice it, it's still a cut in their pension value. Which is a fuckin dispicable way to treat your "protectors"...

Oscar
15th November 2010, 14:53
:rofl: you really wouldn't like the answer to that question :yes:...

So does that mean the UK pensions debacle will affect NZ war pensions or not? I seek enlightenment :), being new here and all... I would have expected more from a Curmudgeon.

No.

And newness is no excuse.

mashman
15th November 2010, 14:58
And newness is no excuse.

Cheers for the answer... Dammit to hell, the cop didn't accept that excuse either :lol: Wonder how long it'll take for the same thinking to be implemented here :rofl:...

Oscar
15th November 2010, 16:55
Cheers for the answer... Dammit to hell, the cop didn't accept that excuse either :lol: Wonder how long it'll take for the same thinking to be implemented here :rofl:...

Don't be thinking cops are curmudgeons - they're just cahnts.