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Coyote
12th June 2005, 21:36
I'm currently doing a research project that I had been ignoring for the last few weeks, and been doing everything tonight like usual. I'm studing alternative fuels (Hydrogen, Ethanol, Electricity, etc) and have almost got all the information I need. Whilst searching up hydrogen cars, I came across the GM motors site

http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/environment/

Look how nice they are with the watering can watering that plant there. Aww, this gonglomerate really cares about us. un-dawnted by this half assed attempt at making themselves look good, I kept looking through the site

http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/adv_tech/200_ice/index.html

Advanced engines huh? So you still want to use up all that crude oil before your hydrogen cars take over right? Although, this was nothing compared to what I found next:

http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/adv_tech/100_news/fc_army_040105.html

Save the world by making a hydrogen fuel cell military vehicle!!! That's what we need to stop people dying of pollution, kill them before the pollution does! I was getting worried about fuel running out and making the american army redundant


The U.S. Army has the largest fleet of vehicles in the world. Improving fuel economy and reducing the logistics of the fuel supply chain could save millions of dollars. For example, it cost the U.S. Army up to $400 a gallon of gas to ship fuel to Iraq and Afghanistan

This is brilliant, the money saved on fuel can buy more bombs to destroy Iraq and Afghanistan! Brilliant stuff from GM

Oh yeah, don't worry, they're making fuel cell Hummers as well

http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/adv_tech/100_news/hydr_h2_102504.html

Ixion
12th June 2005, 21:41
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The U.S. Army has the largest fleet of vehicles in the world. Improving fuel economy and reducing the logistics of the fuel supply chain could save millions of dollars. For example, it cost the U.S. Army up to $400 a gallon of gas to ship fuel to Iraq and Afghanistan

Anyone see something wrong here.

A) They're shipping fuel BACK to the Middle East. Uh, isn't that where it came from. And although Iraqi oil industry was out of action, the Kuwaiti and Saudi ones were producing just fine

B) If it cost $400 a gallon to ship fuel USA->Middle East it ought logically, to cost the same to ship Middle East -> USA. Which means the gas would have had to cost at least $400 a gallon to start with ($800+ once they shipped it back). Just for the freight.

sAsLEX
12th June 2005, 22:50
Quoted quote

The U.S. Army has the largest fleet of vehicles in the world. Improving fuel economy and reducing the logistics of the fuel supply chain could save millions of dollars. For example, it cost the U.S. Army up to $400 a gallon of gas to ship fuel to Iraq and Afghanistan


means they are going all diesel sp? so they have developed outboad motors for boats running on turbines out of small choppers

oh and Alarumba we aint gettin Hummers so no need to worry

TwoSeven
12th June 2005, 23:41
Umm. Not many middle eastern countries have oil thats good enough to make petrol. Most of it has a high sulpha content.

Also, I dont give a monkies about what any butch pinko communist lesbian peacnik thinks of the yanks having a holiday in iraq. If they dont have to use gas - is good enough for me.

Ixion
12th June 2005, 23:50
Umm. Not many middle eastern countries have oil thats good enough to make petrol. Most of it has a high sulpha content.

Also, I dont give a monkies about what any butch pinko communist lesbian peacnik thinks of the yanks having a holiday in iraq. If they dont have to use gas - is good enough for me.

Me is a Communist - so you should give me your bike. But me is not a butch (me is said to ride like a girlygirl, which is opposite of butch), or peacenik. Me all in favour of dropping bombs. Lots of bombs. But just not where me is please .Don't care about anywhere else. (Oh, but not Hinckley or Munich, either, please)

crazylittleshit
13th June 2005, 01:43
1 Word "HUMMER" did you know they don't need to comply with normal emmision test because there considered a truck. :oi-grr:
There not going to utalise any tecnology until they bleed the last one dry.

250learna
13th June 2005, 03:18
hmm take a hummer from well to auckland, or ride the bike around for next 2 years with same amount of petrol :unsure:




:ride:

Quasievil
13th June 2005, 07:48
As far as I know the USA army fuel is refined and supplied in Kuwait, where there is a huge logistical operation. I know this because when I was in Kuwait last year a american logistical guy and I shared a Cab to the sheraton Hotel from the airport, he spoke of this

Hitcher
13th June 2005, 09:31
A lot of fuel used by armed forces is "conditioned" so that it is less flammable than the normal civilian stuff. Particularly true of the avgas used on aircraft carriers, for safety reasons. Maybe this is a reason the Merkans were sending fuel to the Middle East from back home...

Pixie
13th June 2005, 09:43
I just removed all the emissions crap from my Bandit.
I can hear hoards baby seals dying every time I ride it.

Pixie
13th June 2005, 09:48
hmm take a hummer from well to auckland, or ride the bike around for next 2 years with same amount of petrol :unsure:




:ride:
Hummers have a 6.5 litre diesel

Biff
13th June 2005, 12:08
I see nothing unusual in GMs statement as it’s an 'all American company'. Typical American capitalism if you ask me. Full of shit, and paying piece meal to environmental issues in order to appease the 'liberals" (and I consider myself one, well at least in terms of the European definition of the word).

When you have an American administration headed by a former oil mogul (Bush) and his fuckwit of a sidekick (Channey, another oil mogul and unofficial head of a company that currently wins 85% of all contracts awarded in Iraq and Afghanistan. No shit) its no wonder that corporate America follows suit and doesn't give a shit about the environment.

I don't hate Americans. But I do hate the American administration. :mad:

Sutage
13th June 2005, 14:11
As an alternative you should study the use of Hemp, it can do pretty much anything:D

Coyote
13th June 2005, 18:49
"We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?" Lee laccoca, former senior executive of the Ford Motor Company and head of Chrysler.

sAsLEX
13th June 2005, 19:12
"We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?" Lee laccoca, former senior executive of the Ford Motor Company and head of Chrysler.

the same man who put dangerous death traps (pinto?? (http://www.fordpinto.com/blowup.htm) ) on the road that in a rear end even at low speeds would trap the people inside and then burn them alive when the fuel tank ruptured!