Nelson Beach races are on Sunday 3 January 2011 - The adv class. [Archive]

Padmei

28th November 2010, 14:59

Hope ya all like sand in every orifice. Wear a face mask, cos you will be roosted by someone, that shit hurts at 100+ kmph.

Duct tape over any glass, or any other bike surface you value, it will get sandblasted.

Make sure air filter has a perfect seal, otherwise hungry carbs love gobbling all that sand up.

Run a dry chain too, otherwise sand sticks to chain lube and turns into a nice grinding paste.

Steering dampers are a nice have, otherwise, try and ride relaxed, hang on and try not to let the head shake bother you. :corn:
All the wheel tracks in the sand make the track rutted and corrugated. The first runs of the day are the only ones who get a nice, hard, clean track, and the corners always cut up the worst. Talk to WW, he's got race pedigree there.

Silicon spray the bike real well, salt just loves any metal it can get hold of.

Aaaaaand you're gonna be there? I'd hate to think the sultan of clean won't race for fear of getting his bike dirty:shutup:

Mind you having 2 KLRs in front of you would be pretty intimidating:yes:

CrazyFrog

28th November 2010, 20:03

Nope, I won't be there. Sorry but beach racing in a straight line just doesn't spin my wheels.
I don't mind dirt either, but when I only get out once a fortnight, I gotta do something with my non ride time, so my lover gets a good rub down in the man cave.:love:

2 KLR's in front?????? Bahahahahahaha- gasp- hahahahaha!

BTW, what class are you wanting to run in? MX3 Open?

Padmei

28th November 2010, 20:33

yeah I think thats all that I would fit into.

I appreciate what you're saying about racing in a straight line but I figure it'll be the easiest way I can say I've raced motorbies in my time to my mokopuna with a straight face.

Just gotta figure out the best way to get round that cone without washing the front out.

warewolf

28th November 2010, 21:01

Sorry but beach racing in a straight line just doesn't spin my wheels.You've also missed the Laid Back trail rides, the cross-country racing and the enduro-cross. What the heck does spin your wheels??? :shutup: There's not a lot of disciplines left for adventure/enduro machines.

cynna

28th November 2010, 21:24

i wonder if the super tenere from last year will back to race against the klr's

Woodman

28th November 2010, 21:29

I actually think that it will be a wee bit more harder than it would seem, and the fact that there will be a whole lot of other bikes in very close proximity going quite fast will make it very exciting.
Even more exciting will be riding a bike that isn't really the greatest handling piece of kit.
Don't care what class i'm in, just wanna scare myself a few times.:shit:

CrazyFrog

29th November 2010, 10:40

You've also missed the Laid Back trail rides, the cross-country racing and the enduro-cross. What the heck does spin your wheels??? :shutup: There's not a lot of disciplines left for adventure/enduro machines.

Jesus Colin, get off your high horse.
With your permission, is it okay if I don’t always ride on the weekends at NMCC events or with other KB’ers? :violin:
Shiftwork and a 20 month old daughter tend to dominate my weekends these days, so I choose to ride midweek either solo or with other shiftworkers.
And the race/event calendar doesn’t normally cater for us shiftworkers does it? If I want to go fast in a straight line, I’d rather ride the Hakataramea.

Padmei

29th November 2010, 16:51

C'mon pal we're just missing ya. :yes:

I know you're secretly just afraid the mighty KLRs would eat up the orange beast

Woodman

29th November 2010, 19:12

That went well:innocent:

Padmei

29th November 2010, 19:23

Kaybe we'll let this thread die a natural death & start up another close to the time

warewolf

29th November 2010, 20:11

Jesus Colin, get off your high horse.Tough day at the office? Maybe I shoulda added a few more smiliessssssssssssss :sunny: :laugh: :love: :cool:

If I want to go fast in a straight line, I’d rather ride the Hakataramea.The Haka doesn't have sandy hairpins every 800m...

Scrutineering-wise, they are getting tough on helmets now. See IMPORTANT NOTICE CONCERNING HELMETS (http://mnz.co.nz/newsDetail.aspx?SectionID=29&ArticleID=34397) (Del's an NMCC bloke). The helmet has to have a standards compliance marking (not just a marketing badge on the outside) that includes the build date, as there is a 5 year cutoff. It will also face more scrutiny if it's looking used & abused. No flip-fronts, either.

They also might want sidestands (centrestands?) removed, and plain water run in the cooling system. Need to check those requirements.

Physically the toughest thing is the spray from the other bikes in front of you at full throttle. Sand, shell fragments, rocks/sticks/etc and even seawater spray hurts like a mofo. Most bike gear doesn't protect the inside of your arms very well.

See MANUAL OF MOTORCYCLE SPORT (http://mnz.co.nz/competitionrules.aspx) for the full MNZ rules. Club events aren't so strict except on the safety aspects.

JATZ

29th November 2010, 20:13

Kaybe we'll let this thread die a natural death & start up another close to the time

NOoooooooooooo !!!!

It's just gettin interesting :yes:

Where's Topo the slack bastid :Pokey: :dodge:

topo

30th November 2010, 06:46

NOoooooooooooo !!!!

It's just gettin interesting :yes:

Where's Topo the slack bastid :Pokey: :dodge:

I'll take your KLR/DR...... and raise you a GSPD:facepalm:

Not sure what i'll be riding but i'd like to ride this time around rather than watching. i recon the PD with every 2nd knob remved on the rear and a propper knobblie on the front will be a bit of fun, esp if there's some poor bastard on a KLR to through bits of driftwood at:yes:

Padmei

30th November 2010, 06:57

I'll take your KLR/DR...... and raise you a GSPD:facepalm:

Not sure what i'll be riding but i'd like to ride this time around rather than watching. i recon the PD with every 2nd knob remved on the rear and a propper knobblie on the front will be a bit of fun, esp if there's some poor bastard on a KLR to through bits of driftwood at:yes:

Hmmmm I wonder if you can enter 2 bikes for the price of one? There may be a GS challenge

NordieBoy

30th November 2010, 10:27

Basically...

You enter and pay the fee.
From then on you can ride what you like.

kiwiham

30th November 2010, 14:57

I'm pretty keen too. I have to work but my brother will be keen to give my DR a trashing. Not sure how competive a 400 will be against 650's. What sort of tyres do you run ?. Ive heard smoother tyres are quicker on the sand.

cynna

30th November 2010, 15:24

here is a clip from this years races. is it best to corner wide or tight?

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Padmei

30th November 2010, 18:03

That is the million dollar question.
I am thinking the easiest way to stop my front washing out is to go wide.

warewolf

30th November 2010, 19:59

Hmmmm I wonder if you can enter 2 bikes for the price of one?One class per entry form and entry fee.

So you could enter in MX3 Open and race either bike, presumably.

Not sure how competive a 400 will be against 650's. What sort of tyres do you run ?. Ive heard smoother tyres are quicker on the sand.The DR-Z400 often is allowed to enter midbore because it's simply not competitive with the 450cc MX/enduro bikes. And/or runs as a separate class within another race.

Tyre-wise I ran Michelin S12s last time, but given that the bikes wheelspin all the way, with the big heavy beastie I'll probably use Shinko 540s. I don't think it matters too much for competitors in this forum anyway!

is it best to corner wide or tight?Yes, it is.

Also search youtube for "gisbourne beach races 2008" for more of a speedway style of attack.

helenoftroy

30th November 2010, 20:20

I appreciate what you're saying about racing in a straight line but I figure it'll be the easiest way I can say I've raced motorbies in my time to my mokopuna with a straight face.

I actually think that it will be a wee bit more harder than it would seem, and the fact that there will be a whole lot of other bikes in very close proximity going quite fast will make it very exciting.
Even more exciting will be riding a bike that isn't really the greatest handling piece of kit.
Don't care what class i'm in, just wanna scare myself a few times.:shit:

I'll take your KLR/DR...... and raise you a GSPD:facepalm:

Not sure what i'll be riding but i'd like to ride this time around rather than watching. i recon the PD with every 2nd knob remved on the rear and a propper knobblie on the front will be a bit of fun, esp if there's some poor bastard on a KLR to through bits of driftwood at:yes:
:woohoo:
Awesome you lot!

You will have a blast

My bro raced his BSA 500cc goldstar at the Tahuna Beach races in the 70's,I was pit crew,It was fantastic fun to watch

....I reckon there might have to be a road ride up to Nelson to cheer you guys on:yes:

Padmei

30th November 2010, 20:26

:woohoo:
Awesome you lot!

You will have a blast

My bro raced his BSA 500cc goldstar at the Tahuna Beach races in the 70's,I was pit crew,It was fantastic fun to watch

....I reckon there might have to be a road ride up to Nelson to cheer you guys on:yes:

Doyareckon you could stand there & hold an umbrella over me on the grid? I still haven't forgotten those wet boots...

helenoftroy

30th November 2010, 20:29

Doyareckon you could stand there & hold an umbrella over me on the grid? I still haven't forgotten those wet boots...
Lol!somehow I knew those wet boots would be mentioned!!:facepalm:

Woodman

30th November 2010, 20:30

NOoooooooooooo !!!!

It's just gettin interesting :yes:

Where's Topo the slack bastid :Pokey: :dodge:

What about a DR Big ???

NordieBoy

30th November 2010, 20:32

What sort of tyres do you run ?. Ive heard smoother tyres are quicker on the sand.

Even with knobs, you're wheel spinning and you don't want smoother tyres anywhere near the corners :D

NordieBoy

30th November 2010, 20:33

The guy on the right in the vest in that vid is the famous NordieBoy.

Corner tight if you can. Some bikes can't.

here is a clip from this years races. is it best to corner wide or tight?

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cynna

1st December 2010, 01:45

....I reckon there might have to be a road ride up to Nelson to cheer you guys on:yes:

its the day after the nelson st races so its worth a trip up. just hope its nice and sunny this time

Woodman

1st December 2010, 20:55

Heeey just realised that that Aprilia is still sitting at work and the guy who owns it still hasn't picked it up yet.
I wonder if he'd notice a bit of sand on it? hmmmmm:bye:

cooneyr

1st December 2010, 22:06

its the day after the nelson st races so its worth a trip up. just hope its nice and sunny this time

:woohoo: Thanks for pointing this out. I won't be riding at the races but I'll be in NN over Xmas so will try get along. Might even hold your brollie for you Padmei?

Woodman

12th December 2010, 20:13

I have been thinking about this and I have some questions.

how much shit should i take off my bike?

How do I know whether I need a normally open or a normally closed tether switch?

Who has a bike trailer ? I could possibly score one for the weekend if anyone wants a lift. I will check this week

Is the track only 800 metres long?

Will I fall off?

NordieBoy

12th December 2010, 20:17

Ok ......

I have been thinking about this and I have some questions.

how much shit should i take off my bike? - Blinkers and mirrors.

How do I know whether I need a normally open or a normally closed tether switch? - From the wiring diagram?

Who has a bike trailer ? I could possibly score one for the weekend if anyone wants a lift. I will check this week - No! Must ride to the event!

Is the track only 800 metres long? - 800m each way.

Will I fall off? - Hope so :D

Padmei

12th December 2010, 20:35

I just got my thether switch from Filco- I hope Chae asked the techs cos he gave me one off the shelf after I called beforehand. I have since lost it:facepalm: Just wire it inline with the existing kill switch on the bars.

Looking at all the bits of electrics hanging out the front of my bike I might have to wrap them in plastic bags & tape them up. Fcuk what a cool look that'll be...

I was thinking about the races today as I was riding like a God. I was attempting to back it in to some corners & while not quite there got pretty ok at throttle control to bring the rear wheel back around (still I spose that's the easy part- being committed to keeping the throttle pinned I think must be the key) My rear is rooted so having the rear squirming under power is getting me used to the sand.

I have a fresh new T63 & 606front at city m/cs. I won't put them on till the day before (or even the morning for real race simulation pressure)
Also got a new handlebar coming (yeah I know you'll all be disappointed) I'm worried that scutineering will hilite the bends & ...ahem ...crack

I was thinking about extra protection like borowing kneebraces or neck brace. I'm not sure if they'll be necessary for that kind of straightline flat racing but unsure what others where. I've got my pressure suit which is strangely comforting to wear.

I'm looking forward to it.

Woodman

12th December 2010, 20:38

Ok ......

Easy then, just the tether switch to sort out.

Is it mandatory to remove blinkers? otherwise if I'm riding there they will stay where they are, and I'll just remove the mirror, and there was melooking forward to stripping all the excess weight off so it only weighs 170kg or so :facepalm:

Woodman

12th December 2010, 20:46

I just got my thether switch from Filco- I hope Chae asked the techs cos he gave me one off the shelf after I called beforehand. I have since lost it:facepalm: Just wire it inline with the existing kill switch on the bars.

Looking at all the bits of electrics hanging out the front of my bike I might have to wrap them in plastic bags & tape them up. Fcuk what a cool look that'll be...

It will resemble a scrotum

I was thinking about the races today as I was riding like a God. I was attempting to back it in to some corners & while not quite there got pretty ok at throttle control to bring the rear wheel back around (still I spose that's the easy part- being committed to keeping the throttle pinned I think must be the key) My rear is rooted so having the rear squirming under power is getting me used to the sand.

I have a fresh new T63 & 606front at city m/cs. I won't put them on till the day before (or even the morning for real race simulation pressure)
Also got a new handlebar coming (yeah I know you'll all be disappointed) I'm worried that scutineering will hilite the bends & ...ahem ...crack

We will have the same tyre combination, actually the t63 looks a pretty good sand tyre,
I was thinking about extra protection like borowing kneebraces or neck brace. I'm not sure if they'll be necessary for that kind of straightline flat racing but unsure what others where. I've got my pressure suit which is strangely comforting to wear.

Just wearing my usual jacket. It has padding.
I'm looking forward to it.

What gears you running?, i'm gonna put the 14 tooth on. Still pull 145ish so should be sweet.:shutup:

Who else has entered?

Padmei

12th December 2010, 20:49

Shit I haven't even thought of that? Dilemma!!! Prob stick with the 15 as with the mods Gonzilla is a fecking rampaging rhino baby:woohoo:

Padmei

12th December 2010, 20:50

Whats up with the marking pen - I thought I left school ages ago?

Woodman

12th December 2010, 20:52

Whats up with the marking pen - I thought I left school ages ago?

From the guy who painted his motorbike with poster paint.

warewolf

12th December 2010, 20:58

How do I know whether I need a normally open or a normally closed tether switch?Either can be made to work, but normally closed would probably be your best bet.

2-strokes (and/or off-road 4t) tend to have normally-open, push-to-kill short-to-earth kill buttons. So a normally-open tether kill can be used in place of or in parallel with it.

4-stroke road bikes tend to have normally closed, switchable short-to-earth run buttons. Put a normally-closed tether kill in serial with it.

Doing it the above way, ie augmenting the existing system, should not cause any issues with ignition computers. Another way is to put a normally-open in parallel with the coil input, or a normally closed in series with it.

I'm trailering to the event because I want to run good tyres, not that road-legal shite.

NordieBoy

13th December 2010, 06:54

I've got some kneepads/shinguards you can borrow Padmei.

Although you should have some MTB ones?

clint640

13th December 2010, 09:45

Dunno what the surface will be like at Nelson, but at the Burt, as the 690 was lofting the front wheel over the mounds in the sand at about 150km/h, & headshaking violently, it occurred to me that maybe balancing the front knobby might have been a good idea :shit:

Cheers
Clint

NordieBoy

13th December 2010, 09:58

The surface is basically very flat.

Woodman

13th December 2010, 17:55

Not sure what the surface is like, but if the KLR can pull 150km/h in 800 metres on sand then I will go away a happy chappy. Come to think of it 150km/hr is hard to achieve on seal.:facepalm:

warewolf

13th December 2010, 19:38

at about 150km/h, & headshaking violentlyLike I said, do everything you can to set it up for stability :yes: DAMHIK

if the KLR can pull 150km/h in 800 metres on sand then I will go away a happy chappy. Come to think of it 150km/hr is hard to achieve on seal.:facepalm:The 200 was maxing out at 140-ish within 200m, hard to say, it didn't seem like much of the length, but even using the last 100-150m for braking it'd still spend a heckuva long time at max speed. It will definitely be interesting to see how the big beast/s behave. I'd be curious to see if, due to wheelspin, they'll hit top speed sooner (and lower) than on the tar.

Take along a few different sprockets if you have them, so you can experiment. You may want to gear up if you are redlining in top, or gear down if you can't.

JATZ

13th December 2010, 20:31

I really should stop reading this thread....... I'm almost tempted :angry:

But I know how far I could get if I spent the entry fee on gas and went for a ride

Padmei

13th December 2010, 21:01

Like I said, do everything you can to set it up for stability :yes: DAMHIK
.

Apart from lowering or increasing tyre pressure & getting a steering damper what else could you do? Slow the rebound right down?

I really should stop reading this thread....... I'm almost tempted :angry:

But I know how far I could get if I spent the entry fee on gas and went for a ride

You could ride out there & cheer us on. (& bring an entry fees worth of gas for us to burn doing something absolutely meaningless, potentially dangerous & hopefully fun)

I reckon I'd max out easily at 145 -150 by halfway down the straight. The pick up is a lot better after the mods. I was keen on having a drag race from standing start along Anatori beach just to see how the different bikes compared but everyone looked meekly away.

NordieBoy

13th December 2010, 21:07

The 200 was maxing out at 140-ish within 200m, hard to say, it didn't seem like much of the length, but even using the last 100-150m for braking it'd still spend a heckuva long time at max speed. It will definitely be interesting to see how the big beast/s behave. I'd be curious to see if, due to wheelspin, they'll hit top speed sooner (and lower) than on the tar.

I'd expect the DR to hit 150 in around 400m in perfect conditions.
With the same gearng I'd expect about 130 on the sand. Plenty enough for me.

Padmei

13th December 2010, 21:11

Actually I think I'll be quietly shitting myself & not looking at the speedo:shit:

NordieBoy

13th December 2010, 21:14

I won't be quiet.

dino3310

13th December 2010, 21:20

I really should stop reading this thread....... I'm almost tempted :angry:

Go on mate ya know ya wanna

Apart from lowering or increasing tyre pressure & getting a steering damper what else could you do? Slow the rebound right down?

fill the tyres with water, thats what farmers do with there tractors

Woodman

13th December 2010, 22:21

800 metres (eight hundred). There was me visualising 80 (eighty) metres.:facepalm:

You won't regret it Jatz. The adrenalin buzz just waiting for the flag to drop will make it worthwhile, not to mention passing someone.:shit:

warewolf

13th December 2010, 22:33

Apart from lowering or increasing tyre pressure & getting a steering damper what else could you do? Slow the rebound right down?Lengthen the wheelbase & rake out the forks: remove rear spring preload to make the rear squat, lower the fork tubes down the triple clamps as far as possible, add links to the chain to get the rear axle sitting as far back in the swingarm as the adjusters allow. Replace floppy high front mudguard with low firm one - or shorty supermoto one.

As far as suspension damping goes, I'll have to consult my notes (and Colliedog - he made dramatic improvements to Wazza's G450X last year) and get back to you.

cooneyr

14th December 2010, 21:25

MattsDakar and I had a drag on hard pack gravel with a loose sandy top over the weekend. From the GPS on my 950 I got two segments of interest. I reckon that Matt on his XR650R wasn't far behind.
Length 54 m Time 0:00:03 Average Speed 65 km/h
Length 59 m Time 0:00:02 Average Speed 106 km/h

It seems to me that your likely to be well over 100kph in 5 sec and will only have travelled about 100m. I'm sure somebody can work out the accel rates from this but I can't be naffed. I had a a half worn E07 and was spinning it up for most of that. Matt had a new E07 and was also spinning for a fair bit of it and wasn't too far behind. No wheelies for either of us so traction not that good. On wet sand with a good knobblie I'd have though that you could easily better that if you can keep the front wheel down.

NordieBoy

14th December 2010, 21:34

The Nordie did a 14.1 standing quarter at the drags with a terminal speed of 145kph.

Woodman

14th December 2010, 21:44

Lengthen the wheelbase & rake out the forks: remove rear spring preload to make the rear squat, lower the fork tubes down the triple clamps as far as possible, add links to the chain to get the rear axle sitting as far back in the swingarm as the adjusters allow. Replace floppy high front mudguard with low firm one - or shorty supermoto one.

As far as suspension damping goes, I'll have to consult my notes (and Colliedog - he made dramatic improvements to Wazza's G450X last year) and get back to you.

Ok, maybe I am overthinking this but here goes.

Can we run with no front mudguard?

My theory re damping is that as little as possible would be best for better grip. If my klr has too much damping the rear is all over the show presumabely because it is taking longer to get back on the ground again, so in a straight out race on sand I need as much of the weight (me and bike) going through the shocky onto the rear wheel. Same with preload, surely if the spring is softer then the wheel is more likely to lift off the ground. e.g. if the rear of the bike squats then theoretically the rear wheel is more prone to moving towards the bike and not the ground.
So in conclusion I need max preload and minimum damping, and as long as I can hang on this should be quicker.

Of course i could be wrong, but am going to run this combination at least for the first race.

Also if I put lots of air in my forks then this should have a tendency to lift the front wheel off the ground under acceleration therefore putting more weight on the back. Sorta like how drag cars are set up.

Padmei

15th December 2010, 07:13

Man this is getting really techy now. I just gonna plead ignorance & hang on like fcuk

NordieBoy

15th December 2010, 07:43

Ok, maybe I am overthinking this but here goes.

Can we run with no front mudguard? - Yep, but there's going to be a lot of sand coming off the front wheel at you then.

My theory re damping is...
Of course i could be wrong, but am going to run this combination at least for the first race. - Yes and go for it :D

Also if I put lots of air in my forks then this should have a tendency to lift the front wheel off the ground under acceleration therefore putting more weight on the back. Sorta like how drag cars are set up. - But they have a leetle more horse power...

Drop the back end a bit via preload adjustment and that's about all I'd change.
On the DR, I'd just move the shock to the lower position. It'd only take 2 mins. Just to make it a bit more stable.

Padmei

15th December 2010, 16:26

NordieBoy

15th December 2010, 17:18

I happen to have a set in the shed.

No, really!

dino3310

15th December 2010, 17:24

Man this is getting really techy now. I just gonna plead ignorance & hang on like fcuk

thats the spirit mate:wings:

i think thats how most of us do it:laugh:

CrazyFrog

15th December 2010, 18:28

Does anyone in Nelson have a spare set of 22mm bars lying around that I could borrow for the race. Mine are bent with a crack so may not pass scrutineering.

I have tried to get some Renthal enduro high bars but there are none in the country so I will have to wait for the new year or more probably get from OE. i tried some others but they aren't as high as I want & I don't want to spend money on low bars.

Padmei, there's some Renthals on TradeMe in Nelson for $40, cheap enough for keeps. Throw those other ones away bro, one day they'll break and you'll be lucky to be walking home.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Handlebars/auction-339745263.htm

or these cheapies, CR high bend, $35 new
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Handlebars/auction-339986392.htm

JATZ

15th December 2010, 18:34

Does anyone in Nelson have a spare set of 22mm bars lying around that I could borrow for the race. Mine are bent with a crack so may not pass scrutineering.

I may have a spare set lying around :yes:.....
Do you want some from the Ten ? or a set from the Big, specially engineered for left hand turns :blink:

I happen to have a set in the shed.

No, really!

Why am I not surprised, :facepalm:

Padmei

15th December 2010, 20:00

Cheers guys I'll have another look round the nordie emporium tomm nite before the ride.

Who's going tomm nite?
Me
Woodman
???
possibly have a lemonade at the Sprig if time allows after?

dino3310

15th December 2010, 21:03

this would help
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Tyres/auction-341058703.htm

NordieBoy

15th December 2010, 21:56

this would help
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Parts-for-sale/Tyres/auction-341058703.htm

Not under brakes or in the corners it won't...
<img src=http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/dirt/20080202%20Rabbit%20Island%20Beach%20Races/slides/20080202-103350_00991.jpg>

warewolf

16th December 2010, 18:00

This is the puppy: Shinko 540 Mud/Sand Rear Tyre

http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/ProductImages/300/2007_Shinko_540_Mud_Sand_Rear_Tire_--.jpg

NordieBoy

17th December 2010, 06:54

This is the puppy: Shinko 540 Mud/Sand Rear Tyre

For those running weird 18" rears of course.

The Kenda K760 is almost a sand paddle too.

Woodman

18th December 2010, 19:20

Considering its Chrissy and all my riding opportunities have been reduced significantly until the beach races I started lightenining the KLR today. The rear rack and packrack and tool kit (with tools), and rear peg mounts and brackets and spare levers have now been removed.
I had to tether the bike to the ground to stop it floating away its that light.
If I get time the WR pipe will go on as well, but on second thoughts maybe a quiet bike will be better so as not to draw too much attention to myself.

If Nordie hadn't mentioned the ride to the race rule all sorts of shit could be removed.
Talked to a guy at Morleys who seemed to be an organiser and he said as long as the bike has a catch tank it is ok to run antifreeze. Didn't ask about sidestands. How much do they weigh i wonder.?:facepalm:

Padmei

19th December 2010, 08:07

I replaced the bars on gonzo & forgot to put on the tether switch- Doh. Figuring it's time to give it some love I will do an oil change & coolant change.
How do I put on a catchtank? Why? It's a beach for chrissake I've been dumping toxic waste there for years...

Oh BTW I found out why my bike fell over on the stand the other night - it's rooted!! It must have got walloped by the big rock at the end of tinline valley road that caught my ankle cos it is bent backwards - hence the big gouge out of the swingarm.
I'm thinking I'll put the new tyres on this week & leave the bike here rather than take it to the bach for xmas. Man fresh tyres are lovely things to look at.

Woodman

19th December 2010, 08:14

You already have a catchtank/reservoir, its on the right opposite the radiator.

who else is entered in the adventure class?, and are we going to arrive together en masse, personally I would rather use a trailer, so there is somewhere to stash gear/food/tools/fuel? etc, but riding there also appeals and if it goes pear shaped someone will have some space on a trailer surely.

Colin, if you are taking a trailer would it be ok if you could take some stuff there for me?

Padmei

19th December 2010, 08:27

I'm gonna ride out there - that's all part of it - stright off the highway onto the racettrack.

we also need to have a gazebo- I have one but may be a hassle on the back of the bike with the tool kit & tyre warmers. Hmmmm how to get it there... hmmm

Padmei

19th December 2010, 08:28

I reckon Undies should enter the dommie in it too.

warewolf

19th December 2010, 08:57

I have a trailer which can take one bike (mine :D) and a lot of gear. I'll just have to sort out a car, as I don't have a towbar at the moment. Gazebo will be very welcome. Shade is always appreciated.

Willdat?

19th December 2010, 09:05

I'm off to the North Island on the 3rd so unfortunately can't be the trailer towerer

Edit: I'm actually off on the 4th and have permission to steal the car for the day so I can be towerer/umbrella holder! Is your trailer hitch 50mm or 1 7/8" Colin?

Padmei

19th December 2010, 12:48

Underground

19th December 2010, 13:36

I reckon Undies should enter the dommie in it too.

If I were 30 years younger I'd be there with bells on :yes:
I am very tempted to leave whatever it is im doing on the 3rd and pop in for a few hours to spectate .
Might have to organise a lift home though ,its real hard to ride when youre doubled up with laughter ,recon this is going to be a real side splitter:rofl:not to be missed.

Woodman

19th December 2010, 18:07

OK I admit that I can do most of the work on bikes, but I have a major retardation issue when it comes to wiring. My father was(is) a very highly qualified electrical engineer, but none of that knowledge filtered through to me.

The kill switch has 5 wires going to it, but the tether switch has 2, how the hell do I know which ones to use. They also all go into one plug along with the starter switch to confuse the issue even further.

WW mentioned earlier to use it to cut off the coil?

Padmei how did you do yours?

BTW I don't speak multimeter

Korumba

19th December 2010, 18:57

Passing through your guys way on Xmas day staying with my mates mum in Nelson( mate is at sea in the Antarctic for a few months) Karl Eggers any of you people know him???
We had a fantastic new year in Nelson in the early 80s while the races where at Tahuna beach in the past.
Any way I am aiming to be back up for the return crossing on the 4th and staying again in Nelson on the 3rd be cool to see them again and we spent many a drunken day on Rabbit Island 20 odd years ago, so would be great to attend this event.

Maybe see you all there

Padmei

19th December 2010, 19:21

Hey Woodman I did mine today.

If you undo the 2 screws & take the kill switch off you'll see 2 wires going to the kill switch & some going to the...

Aw fck it either bring it round here one nite or I'll come to you - saves a lot of talking. it is only a 2 minute job when the tanks off & you've got all the gear.
I'm good till Thursday then gonna bail tothe bach for xmas.

OK bike prep is almost done. I fitted the bars, tether switch & since I was in the groove I fitted my new tyres - oh so nice - almost too nice to ride on. Def feels taller with long knobs on.

I covered the bike with liberal amounts of silicon spray. I will get a new oil filter & some antifreeze- (does it matter which kind for bikes???) & give it an oil change.

Korumba you'll def see us there. Call in to the pits & if you're lucky we'll let you hold a brolly for us.

Woodman

19th December 2010, 19:48

JATZ

19th December 2010, 19:52

Can I enter on the day ? :facepalm:

still undecided on this, I have new chain and sprokets to get and possibly a new front disc, and 1.5 sets of tyres, also I don't wanna fcuk up the Big before the D.B.
Would be good to hear it popping sedately around the track though:innocent:

Padmei

19th December 2010, 20:38

Cheers Might take you up on that. I was thinking about it some more and readin wws post and if I put it before the coil then that should work. I will try it tomorrow night and if it don;t work I will use the bat phone.

1. Ok open up the kill switch button arrangement thing. There should be 2 wires that are connected to the red kill switchbutton - look closely it shouldn't be too hard to distinguish the kill button connections from the starter connections.

2. Take a note of what colour they are - mine are brown & something.

2 1/2. take off tank (which as you know means taking off all the rest of the crap)

3. OK trace the black plastic sleeving those wires are enclosed in down around the tripletree, to under the tank. they should end at a plug. Can you see it? No? Have another look... There you go.

4. Double check that you have the correct wires in the correct black plastic sleeving. OK now split the sleeving to about 50mm back from the plug - don't ask why just do it & don't nick the wires.

5. Cut one of the wires from the kill switch (remember I had brown but I'm not sure what colour you have) about 25mm from the plug. carefully strip the ends of the wires about 7.5mm back from the ends.

6. Ok now turn the key on & try to start the bike. Doesn't want to start? Good. Twist the 2 ends of the wires back together & try to start the bike again - remember to turn the key on... wants to start? good. That means you've found a good wire to interupt.

7. Use a couple of wire connectors - either crimp or screw, & attach one end of the tether switch to one of the wires you cut & the other to the other.

8. Turn the key on again& kill switch on try to start the bike with the tether bit inserted in the new switch. Wants to start? good.

Padmei

19th December 2010, 20:49

Sorry laptop died

Ok Now the tether switch is wired into the kill switch wire circuit. if it wants to start when the tether is in it is good. Now pull the thether out - Watch out!!! I nearly lost my fricking eye with mine today. The bike shouldn't want to start.

If this is works then all is good & you can tape up the black sleeving carefully & tuck it all back in place.

Troubleshooting.

If the bike wanted to start when you cut the wires, stripped them back, twisted them together temporarily & tested them, but doesnt when the tether switch is wired in, try it with the thether part out. Wants to start now? Damn you have the wrong type of switch - take it back & complain.

If it's all too much for a bloke from Richmond give us a holler.

Woodman

19th December 2010, 22:13

Cheers, appreciate the effort and think I got it now, dunno why I find wiring so awkward.

Jatz you won,t bugger the big.

Woodman

22nd December 2010, 21:14

Underground

22nd December 2010, 21:33

Calm Woodman calm..... its just a motorbike ride on the beach with your mates :ride:

JATZ

22nd December 2010, 21:36

Could you not just cable tie it onto the bars and be done with it :yes:
Or do they actually check to make sure it works :blink:

Woodman

22nd December 2010, 21:42

Calm Woodman calm..... its just a motorbike ride on the beach with your mates :ride:

Theres no mates on a racetrack (beach:facepalm:)

Could you not just cable tie it onto the bars and be done with it :yes:
Or do they actually check to make sure it works :blink:

That has crossed my mind

NordieBoy

22nd December 2010, 22:01

Just got my kill switch today...

Should be easy enough to hook up :shutup:

helenoftroy

22nd December 2010, 22:12

Korumba you'll def see us there. Call in to the pits & if you're lucky we'll let you hold a brolly for us.
Sheez Padmei! how many Brolly Dollies do ya need!:p

Could you not just cable tie it onto the bars and be done with it :yes:
Or do they actually check to make sure it works :blink:
Yes:yes:
+ No!

That has crossed my mind
Its what some Bucket racers do....:whistle:
If you go over to the Bucket thread theres sure to be someone could help

warewolf

23rd December 2010, 08:40

fcuken tether switch.
I tried every single wire and all that happens is the bike won't start. The tether switch is working fine and definitely stops the starter motor cranking when unplugged, but once its going it won't kill the engine.Bring it round, I'll sort it out.

SOunds like you have it connected to the starter switch, not the engine stop switch.

Where are you chaps getting them from? I tried the suzuki/ktm place and they said they haven't been able to get the normally-closed (aka road bike) ones for years.

NordieBoy

23rd December 2010, 17:58

I got a normally open one from the green shop.
They had one more left.

I think it may be easy to get a push to make momentary switch to replace the push to break one that's in there...
226928

Woodman

23rd December 2010, 20:47

Bring it round, I'll sort it out.

SOunds like you have it connected to the starter switch, not the engine stop switch.

Where are you chaps getting them from? I tried the suzuki/ktm place and they said they haven't been able to get the normally-closed (aka road bike) ones for years.

I am going to give it on last shot in a few minutes, if it doesn't work then expect an improptue shed night. I am definitely using the kill switch wires, but they are in the same loom and the starter and kill switch are on the same block etc. I can't believe it won't work, I got it from Murray Thorn, kieran ordered in a few for the beach races after i asked about them.

Woodman

23rd December 2010, 20:48

Just got my kill switch today...

Should be easy enough to hook up :shutup:

You will keep...

Woodman

23rd December 2010, 21:44

Right... Sorted, hooked it up to the coil wire so all the tether switch does is shut the engine down:woohoo: Now all I need to do is fix the killswitch/starter loom proper.:facepalm:

NordieBoy

24th December 2010, 12:43

I think it may be easy to get a push to make momentary switch to replace the push to break one that's in there...

The replacement switch was $1.95 at Dick Smiths :woohoo:

cooneyr

26th December 2010, 21:27

I was just looking for start time (should have looked at the entry form PDF) and came across this Nelson Mail article - Opposition to bike racing on the beach (http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/3978613/Opposition-to-bike-racing-on-the-beach).

Forest and Bird Chairwoman Helen Campbell said she was incredulous that the loophole meant the public did not have a chance to have a say on the event.

"If you go through a public process for a management plan and it's manipulated not just once but three times, that's not what they're for.

"This is not just noise we're talking about, it's fuel and hydrocarbons and oil. There could be long- and short-term effects."

Council community services manager Lloyd Kennedy said "We said to the motorbike club, `We'll let you have this one, but that'll be the last one until the new plan's reviewed',".

Seems like this could be the last time if F&B have their way. Consultation on the revision of the Rabbit Island Management Plan may have a decisive and detrimental effect on the Beach Racing at Rabbit Island.

Those greenies are clever bastards though - fuel and oil are hydrocarbons Ms Campbell. :facepalm:

Cheers R

Woodman

26th December 2010, 21:44

Forest and bird, .. Fcuk me its a pine plantation, not exactly native trees are they.

Its Greenies like that that make put people off being conservation minded.

Anyway gave the KLR a shakedown run today and have decided to stick with standard road gearing. Tether (fcuken) switch is all hooked up and shes ready to rumble.

Only hope that my slight oil burning issue doesn.t become a major after this thrashing as I want to do the Dusty before the 685 kit goes in.

warewolf

26th December 2010, 22:42

Forest and Bird object to anyone doing anything in the bush, so they seem to be considered as exaggerating trouble-makers - at least that's what the Nellie Mail conveys. The (that) story is months and months old (umm, 31/07/10). IIRC the Council adopted a 3-year suck-it-and-see approach and hasn't had any substantial complaints, so the NMCC is in a good position to have it's permits or whatever renewed.

The beach racing used to be held on Tahunanui Back Beach, but they have found a unique species of something-or-other there, so that's now out of bounds. Nothing remarkable about Rabbit Island beach, hey it's the shitworks and an exotic pine plantation and a gay pick-up/shagging spot (http://www.stuff.co.nz/searchresults?Search+Site=Search+Site&cof=FORID:9&cx=006730714154542492986:oh6vl0ybuqy&ie=UTF-8&q=rabbit+island+gay).

My bike is currently up on a work stand sans steering head bearings, frame-suspension bearings half-out, normally-closed tether switch ready to install and awaiting fitment of a brand-spankers Shinko R-540 and part-worn matching front. :woohoo:

NordieBoy

27th December 2010, 07:08

cooneyr

27th December 2010, 08:18

Thats the ridiculous part about the F&B stance. With appropriate management there is no reason why the racing shouldn't be allowed to go ahead. F&B are ignorant reactionaries who should pull their head out and work with NMCC and TDC. Good on NMCC and TDC for working together to come up with an appropriate plan to mange the even.

Ya can't bubble wrap everything and everybody.

Woodman

27th December 2010, 20:59

It's a pine plantation and there are areas you're not allowed to go because of the offal pits.

In the pits, bikes must be on a tarp to reduce any fluid leakage.

It was going to be a one off deal for the Nelson Club centenary in 2008.

The guy at Morleys told me that refuelling is to be done at one designated spot where there is a tarp on the ground. Are you saying we all have to have a tarp for parking on whether we are refuelling or not?
Refuelling is not an issue for me as the KLR has got a 26 litre tank:woohoo:

NordieBoy

27th December 2010, 21:16

Sounds like we don't need tarps then.

Isn't the internet wonderful. The things you learn :D

Woodman

27th December 2010, 21:35

:facepalm:

Oops I was wrong about tarp. Just read the instructions, all bikes to be pitted on tarp to avoid contamination..

I am now confused about armour. the guy at Morleys told me that as long as my arms are covered then I can wear what i like. I was going to wear my armoured jacket , but not sure what the requirement is now.

does anyone have any armour that I can borrow if my jacket is not any good???

dino3310

27th December 2010, 21:41

just nip down to paperplus and get some bubble rap:niceone:

NordieBoy

28th December 2010, 09:34

Knee armour is nice.
Roost protection is nice.
Otherwise just your normal adv wear.

NordieBoy

29th December 2010, 20:00

I'm paid up and ready to go :scooter:

Race number "F"

Just need to pick up a small tarp.

cooneyr

29th December 2010, 21:02

....Race number "F"....

F for fail?

Anybody need a pit bitch/brollie dollie:sick:/fat basted to hold down a tarp?

Woodman

29th December 2010, 21:25

F for fail?

Anybody need a pit bitch/brollie dollie:sick:/fat basted to hold down a tarp?

You can be the guy who wheels my bike to the start line if you want.

The more the merrier, should be fun.

cynna

30th December 2010, 02:22

NordieBoy

30th December 2010, 06:49

We're extending the weekend. There's going to be 2 Sunday's and then jump straight to Tuesday.

Longer weekend and no Monday.

Win - Win.

cynna

30th December 2010, 09:04

damn i was supposed to be going home on monday. will have to wait until the next one now - at least i will be able to see the supercross as well now

warewolf

30th December 2010, 18:07

Just need to pick up a small tarp.I've got plenty if you don't want to buy one.

Shit. I shoulda used number "64A" or something :facepalm:

Paul S. said if we want we can bunch up at one end of the start line and agree to start together a bit after the main bunch goes, a race within a race. He suggested there were other ppl with adventure bikes that would be likely to join in.

warewolf

30th December 2010, 18:08

Anybody need a pit bitch/brollie dollie:sick:/fat basted to hold down a tarp?What are you like at changing tyres? Chains and sprockets?

NordieBoy

30th December 2010, 18:17

What are you like at changing tyres? Chains and sprockets?

Engines? :shutup:

cooneyr

30th December 2010, 19:13

What are you like at changing tyres? Chains and sprockets?

Not as good as topo and better than a noobie. Happy to help just as long as I don't have to change the rear tyre on a DR650. I've "got" enough weight to de-bead pretty much any other rim.

Engines? :shutup:

XR250's are a piece of cake. DR650 again maybe no so.

helenoftroy

30th December 2010, 20:00

not sure if this has been mentioned already but the beach races are on monday 3rd jan not a sunday which it says on the thread title

i know , i know- i should have checked all the other pages first.....

That one had us confused till today too!:shit:

Anways we will be there to cheer you all you racers on!!!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Underground

30th December 2010, 20:49

That one had us confused till today too!:shit:

Anways we will be there to cheer you all you racers on!!!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
We might see you there ,
How do we find 'our' team ? do we just ride into the pit area or do we have to park with the common folk?

Woodman

30th December 2010, 20:50

Number 104 is ready to rumble.

Warewolf is it a handicap race? is that why the main bunch have to go first to give them a sporting chance against us?

Saw a guy with a crazy looking K series BMW on a trailer today. Pretty sure its a beach racer. had road tyres on it.

NordieBoy

31st December 2010, 06:05

K100 with a slab of blue camping mattress foam for a seat?

helenoftroy

31st December 2010, 09:03

You guys are gonna have soo much fun!:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Ducati is in Queenstown with Casualty but 5 of us are doing a quick road trip - shooting up in the truck tomorrow for the Port & Beach racing

Camping at Jens

Longwheely,The damaged Retroqueen,Lil'M,Stevewedderall and me will see you guys soon:banana::wari::Punk:

cynna

31st December 2010, 09:23

will see you guys up there. heading up the rainbow soon in the 4wd - staying there overnight at one of the lakes

Woodman

1st January 2011, 19:06

calling Warewolf.

have you got a tow car sorted?
The reason I ask is that I may need to drop some shit (tools, food , fuel, deck chairs, brolly dollies, apparel and memorabilia kiosk etc) round to your place for you to take there for me.

if thats ok?

Cheers
Woodman

warewolf

1st January 2011, 21:07

Warewolf is it a handicap race? is that why the main bunch have to go first to give them a sporting chance against us?I refuse to answer that question on the grounds I may incriminate yourself.

Saw a guy with a crazy looking K series BMW on a trailer today. Pretty sure its a beach racer. had road tyres on it.Yeah, he's a regular.

warewolf

1st January 2011, 21:16

Edit: I'm actually off on the 4th and have permission to steal the car for the day so I can be towerer/umbrella holder! Is your trailer hitch 50mm or 1 7/8" Colin?That'd be great - dunno what size it is, the trailer was made about 10 years ago so it is likely to be metric. I will give you a call.

have you got a tow car sorted?
The reason I ask is that I may need to drop some shit (tools, food , fuel, deck chairs, brolly dollies, apparel and memorabilia kiosk etc) round to your place for you to take there for me.Yep, that'd be fine. We'll just have to co-ordinate things with the driver.

Padmei, how big is your tent? I might be able to get a 6x3m job if we don't have anything else. It will be good to have somewhere to sit out of the sun between races.

Woodman

1st January 2011, 21:39

All sounds too easy, I can drop my stuff off at yours on monday morning or you can swing by on the way . You choose.

Willdat?

1st January 2011, 22:28

That's all good, things could be dropped off here, buuuuut I have a feeeling somewhere back there Padmei offered a flower car?!

Anyway, someone tell me what I'm doing, I pick Padmei to be in charge (also helps that he seems to be an early morning KBer so that may help allign the stars elsewhere). I'm happy to drive, or just spectate with CooneyR...

cooneyr

2nd January 2011, 08:10

I'll have a LWB Prado with a tow bar and heaps of boot space (I'll chuck the pram out) if any more space is needed. I don't have access to a trailer though. I'm right on the north side of town so happy to pick stuff/people up on the way through.

Padmei

2nd January 2011, 08:58

Hi guys

Ok
Here's whats gonna happen.

CooneyR - If you're gonna stay the whole day there then you can either take your Prado & call into my place around the corner to pick up the gazebo & fuel & tarp etc, or grab our bling mobile so Mrs CooneyR has some wheels & take that to Warewolfs to pick up the trailer.

Woodman you can either drop your stuff off at Wills if he's gonna be there at the start or drop your stuff off at WWs to go in the bling or we can pick it up on the way thru.

My gazebo is only 3m x3m but lwe have a big umbrella too.

Don't forget to take water & chips.

I'm amping 7 kinda shitting myself at the same time.

You guys tried av gas in your bikes before? Would it do any damage for a short blast?

cooneyr

2nd January 2011, 09:09

....CooneyR - If you're gonna stay the whole day there then you can either take your Prado & call into my place around the corner to pick up the gazebo & fuel & tarp etc, ....

I'll bring the Prado. PM sent.

Willdat?

2nd January 2011, 10:12

Underground

2nd January 2011, 13:08

Both my bikes are having issues at the moment and the car has no rego or wof so we are comming in the 'support' vehicle . Can we get a camper into the pit area ? if so we could have facillities and I can bring a 6x3 gazebo and tarps ??

cooneyr

2nd January 2011, 13:09

good call Team, we maybe taken a little more seriously with the Prado as a tow vehicle than the Demio. :facepalm:

Woodman could drop off his stuff at my place (PM sent with address), and if I'll fit would be awesome to catch a ride with CooneyR, otherwise I'll bring support vehicle number 2! :yes:

PS what is start time, I've only seen the 2:30pm advertised in the paper...

I've no passengers that I know of yet so your most welcome.

Re timing I see that scrutineering is between 1215 and 1345 so will depend on if we are towing a trailer queen out or not. Padmei is sorting so I'll wait for Herr Commandant's instructions.

warewolf

2nd January 2011, 13:54

Ryan, if you are taking my trailer with bike on it, you will have me as a passenger.

I will take a 25L water barrel so gents don't worry about bringing your own drinking water. A lot of ppl get the fire brigade to rinse the bike after each race, gold coin donation.

Program is:
12:00p pits open. We should be there early to get one large site.
12:15p - 1:15p Sign-in. You will have to present your helmet for inspection, and possibly your bike.
1:25p Rider Briefing in riding gear, then practice.
2:30p - 8:00p racing.

There are 7 classes (combined) and it is likely we will race 4-5 times, 4-8 laps each, 60-90mins wait between races - hence the need for shade. At the end there may be an "all in race" for those willing to go out for more.

Sh!t, we should've organised the KB banner :doh:

Yay! this is gonna be fun. Now to go finish prepping the bike :facepalm:

dino3310

2nd January 2011, 15:10

looks like your in for some good beach fang fan:woohoo:

Good luck Fellas have a good day:wings:

:corn:

cooneyr

2nd January 2011, 15:18

Ryan, if you are taking my trailer with bike on it, you will have me as a passenger.

....12:00p pits open. We should be there early to get one large site.....

No worries re trailer (1 7/8 ball?) and ride. Guess about 11.15 at yours WW, meaning 11 at Padmei's and about 1130 at Willdats? Does that work?

Cheers R

Woodman

2nd January 2011, 16:16

All sounds brilliant, Already have that big game nervy thing going on in my tummy.

I will drop my wee box of stuff at your place Will seeing as how you are just down the road.

So thats the vehicles orgamanised so what about the hard men riding their race weapons to Rabbit island?

Padmei? Nordie? shall we meet somewhere first? or do you wanna just turn up?

NordieBoy

2nd January 2011, 16:44

You guys tried av gas in your bikes before? Would it do any damage for a short blast?

Unless you're running high compression it just works in your mind.

Good enough reason for me.

But I'll be running 91.

NordieBoy

2nd January 2011, 16:46

I'll be the one turning up about 12:00 on the back wheel.

Padmei

2nd January 2011, 16:54

All
So thats the vehicles orgamanised so what about the hard men riding their race weapons to Rabbit island?

Padmei? Nordie? shall we meet somewhere first? or do you wanna just turn up?

I think at this stage it might be better to just turn up. I guess if Ryan, Colin & Will in the support truck are first at the bivouac then it can set out the gazebos & get the generators & lites set up.

Red bull have called & were quite persistant that we ride under their banner. I told them I'd get back to them as Libra Fleur Tampons had made quite a good offer with their products.

Ryan call around whenever you like tomm morn as I will be here either oiling myself up or doing nervous poos.

Nordie & I spent the day prepping ourselves at the Port Races. Fking A we're gonna show those lil fellas a fair bit of roost.

Gonna pinch a pair of the mrs' pantyhose for a WW style prefilter.:innocent:

warewolf

2nd January 2011, 17:31

No worries re trailer (1 7/8 ball?) and ride. Guess about 11.15 at yours WW, meaning 11 at Padmei's and about 1130 at Willdats? Does that work?Yeah that sounds great.

Woodman

2nd January 2011, 18:04

I think at this stage it might be better to just turn up. I guess if Ryan, Colin & Will in the support truck are first at the bivouac then it can set out the gazebos & get the generators & lites set up.

Red bull have called & were quite persistant that we ride under their banner. I told them I'd get back to them as Libra Fleur Tampons had made quite a good offer with their products.

Ryan call around whenever you like tomm morn as I will be here either oiling myself up or doing nervous poos.

Nordie & I spent the day prepping ourselves at the Port Races. Fking A we're gonna show those lil fellas a fair bit of roost.

Gonna pinch a pair of the mrs' pantyhose for a WW style prefilter.:innocent:

yip that makes sense.

Pantyhose pantyhose ? I am running with the filter door off. Its on the right hand side so with a left turning track it should be less susceptible to filling the airbox with sand when roosted. Mr. K and Mr N developed these filters for just these kind of conditions. Also the induction noise sounds very cool.

cooneyr

2nd January 2011, 19:56

....Ryan call around whenever you like tomm morn as I will be here either oiling myself up or doing nervous poos.....

Ya what :shit: not sure I like the sound of either of those options. See you around 11.

Good to hear your guys are all amped. I'm bringing my dinky fancy camera (cheapest Nikon DSLR) to get embarrassing pics of ya all getting roosted by the lil 2t's :innocent:

Cheers R

NordieBoy

2nd January 2011, 20:57

I think at this stage it might be better to just turn up. I guess if Ryan, Colin & Will in the support truck are first at the bivouac then it can set out the gazebos & get the generators & lites set up.

Tyre warmers. I want tyre warmers.

Got my plastics, seat and wheels swapped over to the "serious" ones.

Now for an early night...

Oops :facepalm:

Underground

2nd January 2011, 20:59

See you racer dudes tomorrow ,I'll make the coffee .

NordieBoy

2nd January 2011, 21:06

I'm bringing my dinky fancy camera (cheapest Nikon DSLR) to get embarrassing pics of ya all getting roosted by the lil 2t's :innocent:

Cool.

I wouldn't be worried if I couldn't race 'cause I get just as much buzz from the photography...

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/dirt/20080202%20Rabbit%20Island%20Beach%20Races/slides/20080202-105808_00913.jpg
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/dirt/20080202%20Rabbit%20Island%20Beach%20Races/slides/20080202-112820_00863.jpg
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/dirt/20080202%20Rabbit%20Island%20Beach%20Races/slides/20080202-114230_00794.jpg
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/dirt/20080202%20Rabbit%20Island%20Beach%20Races/slides/20080202-114134_00798.jpg

The annoying thing is, I know just where and what style of shots I wanted to take this year :crybaby:

fossil

2nd January 2011, 22:02

Cool.

I wouldn't be worried if I couldn't race 'cause I get just as much buzz from the photography...

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/dirt/20080202%20Rabbit%20Island%20Beach%20Races/slides/20080202-114134_00798.jpg

The annoying thing is, I know just where and what style of shots I wanted to take this year :crybaby:

Hi Fran,
Since you posted a picture of his "big girl" on song at the beach, Paul S said he will save you and the boys a choice spot to set up camp, not to far from the loo (for the nervous one) and close to the action.

Padmei

2nd January 2011, 22:03

See you racer dudes tomorrow ,I'll make the coffee .

Don't joke about serrious things :angry:

cooneyr

2nd January 2011, 22:06

....The annoying thing is, I know just where and what style of shots I wanted to take this year :crybaby:

I've just been refreshing my memory about aperture and shutter speed settings and learning what the P mode on our D40X Nikon does. I'll take our 18-55 and 55-200 lenses and see what happens (55-200 takes a long time to change focus when significant changes in zoom). I've got some ideas about where I want to stand but no idea if they are "best" or not. Don't expect much but I'll give it a go. Feel free to give me any advise you want tomorrow.

Cheers R

NordieBoy

2nd January 2011, 22:54

See you racer dudes tomorrow ,I'll make the coffee .

Don't joke about serrious things :angry:

Yeah. Unless you do a mean americano (black)...

NordieBoy

2nd January 2011, 22:58

I've just been refreshing my memory about aperture and shutter speed settings and learning what the P mode on our D40X Nikon does. I'll take our 18-55 and 55-200 lenses and see what happens (55-200 takes a long time to change focus when significant changes in zoom). I've got some ideas about where I want to stand but no idea if they are "best" or not. Don't expect much but I'll give it a go. Feel free to give me any advise you want tomorrow.

Cheers R

Does it have A & T modes?

1/320th is sweet to get a bit of mag wheel blur and with spoked wheels you can go to 1/640th.

Padmei

3rd January 2011, 07:47

Does it have A & T modes?

1/320th is sweet to get a bit of mag wheel blur and with spoked wheels you can go to 1/640th.

can't you guys go back to posting at www.geekalert?

A beaut morning - I'm coffeed up & about to relube the airfilter then Gonzo should be good to go.

Gonna be a good day:woohoo:

Willdat?

3rd January 2011, 08:13

As expected, Woodman turned up in the 10 minute window that the house was empty! All ready to go for 11:30, will be waiting on the road. :yes:

NordieBoy

3rd January 2011, 09:02

Gonna be a good day:woohoo:

Should be around 20-30k lux with a UV of about 13 and wind from the north at about 10-15kph.
Humidity 67% and Pressure at 1017hPa.
The sand should have a high silica content and moisture rating of about 23.
Friction coefficient in the corners of around 17 blumenthals, give or take around 3.6
The roost will have a pain rating of about 5/10 dropping to 3/10 after 2pm as it dries out a bit.

JATZ

3rd January 2011, 09:36

Should be around 20-30k lux with a UV of about 13 and wind from the north at about 10-15kph.
Humidity 67% and Pressure at 1017hPa.
The sand should have a high silica content and moisture rating of about 23.
Friction coefficient in the corners of around 17 blumenthals, give or take around 3.6
The roost will have a pain rating of about 5/10 dropping to 3/10 after 2pm as it dries out a bit.

Maaate ya dreaming....
It's gunna be about 24 blumenthals, minimum, droping away as the afternoon progresseses :yes:

Padmei

3rd January 2011, 10:55

Maaate ya dreaming....
It's gunna be about 24 blumenthals, minimum, droping away as the afternoon progresseses :yes:

Shit i'm only torqued to allow for 13 bluementhals - would too much tension cause puckering?:shit:

dino3310

3rd January 2011, 13:07

funny langauge,
mmmmmmmmm do you fellas play the banjo

That looks like fun

3rd January 2011, 16:24

funny language,
mmmmmmmmm do you fellas play the banjo

Luckily I speak fluent South island Dino so I shall interpret for you what may appear as mere gibberish to we the great unwashed of the North. :blink:

Lux = A laundry powder :yes:
UV = Use Violence :yes:
Silica = Dirt
Blue Menthals are produced by a company called "Rothmans" :yes:

So if we breakdown the apparent gibberish into North speak we find it reads thus :yes:
"They intend to clean up and beat everybody using dirty tactics to smoke the opposition" :facepalm:
My work here is done :woohoo:
And now we wait Doug :corn:

Woodman

3rd January 2011, 19:37

What a day, great location great company, great coffe.

Managed to stay on which was good and only got sandblasted once, and yes it friggen hurts.

KLR (well mine anyway) performed like a dream, wasn't fast enough to keep up with the 450s we were racing against but really don't think I coulda ridden it any quicker.

My vapor dash tells me that my maximum speed was 139.9 km/h :woohoo:while maximum revs achieved was 8370 rpm.:facepalm:

Edit one ltre of oil was used. ouch

So much fun I really recommend it to anyone with an adv bike to give it a go.

NordieBoy

3rd January 2011, 19:53

funny langauge,
mmmmmmmmm do you fellas play the banjo

And we're not afeard to use them...

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Padmei

3rd January 2011, 19:53

mattsdakar

3rd January 2011, 20:13

I've just been refreshing my memory about aperture and shutter speed settings and learning what the P mode on our D40X Nikon does. I'll take our 18-55 and 55-200 lenses and see what happens (55-200 takes a long time to change focus when significant changes in zoom). I've got some ideas about where I want to stand but no idea if they are "best" or not. Don't expect much but I'll give it a go. Feel free to give me any advise you want tomorrow.

Cheers R

Where's the photo's, or were they to fast for your shutter speed??:corn:

dino3310

3rd January 2011, 20:20

:corn::corn::corn:

Woodman

3rd January 2011, 20:57

there will be lots of photos somewhere, there were cameras everywhere. Bart would not have survived riding in front of that many cameras. All I got were some pits and crowd shots so not worth posting.

dino3310

3rd January 2011, 21:01

results.........
who finished where,
did a certain tenere coloured KLR finish last.... please say it did, please :lol:

JATZ

3rd January 2011, 21:06

The NADS who entered did good :yes:
I only watched one race, then got bored and went riding :blink:, but they were going well, having a race within a race :woohoo:

dino3310

3rd January 2011, 21:08

i thought the ole BIG might have done alright

warewolf

3rd January 2011, 22:19

Well that was a top day out :woohoo:

Was great to have a few more NADS at a competition event. Everyone was still smiling at the end of the day, and I for one would've liked to have kept racing. The 640 'played strong, done fine' as they say, the preparation paid off as it was head-shaking like a bastard most of the time but never seemed like suddenly getting out of control. We had 4 laps practice then 4x 5 lap races and finally the 7-8 lapper 'all in' feature race for the moderns. Most of us improved with time, but at times later in the day I did lose concentration/coordination - one time did result in a tip-over in the corner. (the other time I was fully aware and simply cocked up.)

I had the misfortune of the tether kill switch becoming dislodged in a particularly aggressive bumpy corner. It was still connected so initially I thought fuel and switched to reserve but eventually I worked it out. :doh: Then next race I dropped it in the start/finish corner, but the 'bars fell in a rut so I couldn't get my hands under the bike to pick it up. It stalled when I finally picked it up, and after kicking it a few times a marshal hands me the tether... "you might need this." yeah, ta. :facepalm: Arse. I fell off again at the same place on the next lap, but managed to keep the bike running... but I checked the tether just in case. Third time round I nailed it in a beautiful big long slide :sunny:

The bike was fast enough to run with the slower open class MXers, but the nut holding the handlebars let the side down - mostly through the corners. :o There was one chap who must've been pulling 20km/h more: I was slowly passing something-or-other near top speed and he just blew our doors off. Oddly I was able to out-brake quite a few of the MXers which was a surprise. The rear was gripping well enough that I struggled to lock the back end (which is normally effortless) and blackened the rear disc. The tyre actually turned on the rim a little bit, from braking, but cranking up the rim lock mostly stopped it.

Loads of fun!! Must do it again some time :yes:

And thanks to all the support crew for your efforts, it was a pleasure. :niceone:

Some technical notes:

The start/'away' side was closest to the waves. It was much harder packed than the return. I was seeing 150-155km/h at the braking point and it was accelerating the whole length of the straight (800m) although the bike got to high 130's fairly promptly. The return was much softer and slightly in to the wind: early in the day 5th gear near redline was only pulling 138km/h, same as 4th going up the harder surface. Later in the day, 127 was about max, and changing 4th to 5th too soon dropped the revs too far out of the power, like down to say 6,500rpm and it would languish at 120-121-122. Oh, and by the end of the 3rd race the filter skin was dirty enough to drop the top-end speed from 155 to 147, and those kays made a real difference to chasing down the open-class bikes (as, presumably, did the improvements elsewhere in the rev range). Removing the skin instantly returned the missing power.

That was running my standard 'adventure' gearing 16/44, 2T up on the rear. Possibly I could have run taller :scratch: as it spent a lot of time in the 1500rpm above peak power.

Suspension-wise I'd dropped rear preload from 21mm to 10.5, and dropped the forks the final 2mm into the clamps ie the top of the caps was flush with the top of the top triple. Front rebound went -1 click faster and compression +2 clicks firmer. I tried -2 clicks softer but that didn't improve stability just ruined braking. The +2 clicks really held the front end up under brakes, so I went from overshooting the corners due to braking judder to undershooting due to braking so much harder. Result! Basically I would sit forward through to about 90-100km/h then sit riiiiight back as it started weaving - then have to climb forward on the bike again to change gear :shit: not good at high speed when she's bucking like a bronco and you are using every bit of stability you can generate.

I hacked off the front 10-15cm of the front guard, but that didn't make any noticeable improvement to stability. Worth a try.

The Shinko 540's did the job at 11 psi, it was set and forget. Before the corners got cut up they really, really hooked up well: I was able to bang the throttle open to the stop while cranked over hard at about 80km/h in third, and they'd just hook up and drive. :woohoo: Schweet.

Interestingly this year there was no debris in the sand. So you were only sand- or water-blasted which is nowhere near as painful as rocks, sticks and shell fragments. Full face road helmet did the business, I must say highly recommended over MX helmet & goggles. My face was comfortable all day, and any vision problems would have been just as bad (or worse) with goggles.

Signing off, my limbs are starting to ache. :violin:

NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 08:15

Good fun :D

I arrived at the beach to be pointed to the "ADV Pits" sign and taped off area the organisers had made for us :woohoo:

Unpacked everything including the bike lift off the back and set up on my nice new tarp.

The KB crew was...
Racing: Nordie, Padmei, Woodman, Warewolf...
Hangers-on, Pit Bitches, Brolly Dollies, groupies: JavaHead, Topo, MrsTopo, Jatz, MrsJatz, Underground, MrsUnderground, HoT, CooneyR, Cynna...

Now if they'd brought their bikes too...

Sign-in and helmet check went fine although when your brother says "just sign here" you start to worry. That's when you find you've just entered Pre '86 on your '79 XR250 as well...

MX3 or Adventure Class, as it became known was the race after Pre '86...
Which led to a bit of scrambling and 400m head starts for the others in one case.

Got a practice in on the DR and then my first race was on the XR. Which I hadn't practised on so I didn't know where to sit as you can see from the photos :facepalm:

5 laps for the classic bikes and 7 laps for the modern's.
10 laps for the all in final.
The XR was more stable than the DR but was a bit slower too.
Changing into 5th and the revs would slowly drop off for the remaining 1/3 of the straight.

The XR really handles well and goes pretty well for a bike that only gets raced and the engine hasn't been touched for 50-60 hours over the last 4-5 years or so.

The DR had a very nice mid-range even with the stock pipe but with the 16/46 gearing (170kph theoretical max) it needed to go down a tooth in front as it was pulling 6,000rpm at 136.1kph and 1 lower would have been 6,500rpm at the same speed but nearer to peak power.
It could have maybe juuust got 140kph but I got over 130 which was my aim as I guestimated 130 odd kph max leading up to the races :woohoo:

The start straight as WW said was a lot smoother as it was on the seaward side and was a lot wider and the water kept the ruts smaller. You didn't need to sit back on the seat much at all. For top speed you'd go wide and for lower lap times you'd go narrow.

The return straight was a different story. Narrower and no smoother line or side. I was going about 30kph slower down this side, seated riiiight back as far as my arse and ventura bars would allow and both ends were swapping around all over the place but you just kept it pinned :scooter:

Watching the K100 completely nailed through the corners and swapping the back a metre from side to side on the good straight was amazing :shit:
Having a fast bike pass you on the rough/soft side and cross over in front was an experience.

I didn't do the last Pre '86 race as I was getting a bit knackered and passed on the All In at the end too.
Shane was a bit annoyed I'd packed up as he was going to nick the DR when my back was turned and do the last race on it. I'm happy the DR didn't get treated to that abuse but it would have been cool to watch :corn:

Not many got the chance to pack up their bikes and ride home. Who needs a race bike :love:

My camera got borrowed a couple of times and I took a couple of shots too so there's 318 photos to go through...

I also have a gps trace of the track :D

Padmei

4th January 2011, 08:40

Yes indeed Rabbit Island turned on a fantastic day for us.

Watching the other classes practise it kinda looked easy- just stay in a nice line & go round the corners.

Nordie, Woodman, Warewolf & myself lined up at the start of our practise laps with the MX3 open class. I was pretty nervous before the flag came down & to make matters worse the KLR started to stall right on the dropping of the flag. I started & head down saw with my peripheral vision the rest of the field disappear ahead of me.

To be continued - movie time

You peoples must have the idea what went down so all I'll say is I was crapping my daks going along the practice laps. I'm not used to having the bike moving all over the place at speed so kept it not quite tapped out.

After the practice laps I felt like I'd done the tower of terror in Dreamland - it was exciting but not quite sure if I wanted to do it again:shit: My heart was still running at 150bpm about 5 mins after stopping.

The guys were talking about what they & the bikes were doing while racing however my mind went blank when they asked me- all I had in my head a blurrred vision of the handlebars wobbling madly.

The first race tho was a completely different story. For some reason I stopped thinking of the consequences & held it pinned. I was concentrating on getting around those corners as fast as I could (which wasn't fast). After a few laps I was feeling like I was getting better & realy begain enjoying it until the last lap when I dropped it on the corner & took a while to get started.

However the following corner was my last as the clutch stopped working. I pushed it back to the pits with help from Jatz.

Something in the box had broken so Iwas out of the racing. What a bummer. Iwas absolutely loving it until the clutch thing & although I was dead last by a long shot (& having the indignity of the leader lapping me in a wheelstand) but am absolutely hooked. It was the most exciting experience I've had for a while & reccommend all to have a go.

Next step- track day at Ruapuna:woohoo:

cooneyr

4th January 2011, 08:52

Where's the photo's, or were they to fast for your shutter speed??:corn:

Got 280 to go though so will probably be tonight. Should be a couple of good ones of each of the NADS despite my limited photographic capacity.

results.........
who finished where,
did a certain tenere coloured KLR finish last.... please say it did, please :lol:

Umm maybe and maybe not. I've got evidence that modified DR's can out accelerate stock KLR's - easily :scooter:

Cheers R

NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 09:59

I was concentrating on getting around those corners as fast as I could (which wasn't fast).

having the indignity of the leader lapping me in a wheelstand.

Faster than me though :facepalm:

In one race I wasn't lapped :woohoo:

NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 09:59

Umm maybe and maybe not. I've got evidence that modified DR's can out accelerate stock KLR's - easily :scooter:

Stock(ish) KLR's.

bart

4th January 2011, 10:21

Bart would not have survived riding in front of that many cameras.

Haha, woulda been a massive rolling ball of carnage, travelling down the beach at warp speed. :facepalm:

Good on you guys. Sounds awesome. I'll have to sneak down that way next year and have a look. :woohoo: It must be bloody difficult once the beach gets rutted up. :shit:

bart

4th January 2011, 10:33

NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 11:01

Out of interest, how would a 'trials' type tyre go. A grippy tyre would help with acceleration, but might create too much drag at high speed. A less grippy tyre should stay on top (think aquaplane) and allow more speed. :scooter:

I've only had limited experience of riding sand, so shoot me down if I'm wrong. :facepalm:

I don't think anyone who's done a rutted sand straight even at 100kph would be going "hmmm, I need less tread".

On hard pack sand then a trials tyre on the back may be fine though.

NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 11:11

Our intrepid leader with his present from Bankok...
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Woodman mobile...
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Warewolf's steed...
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Padmei's Tenere...
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NordieBoy's beast...
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The crew...
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warewolf

4th January 2011, 12:20

Out of interest, how would a 'trials' type tyre go. A grippy tyre would help with acceleration, but might create too much drag at high speed. A less grippy tyre should stay on top (think aquaplane) and allow more speed. :scooter:
Less grip probably means more wheelspin and taller gearing to maintain drive. :scratch:

I reckon you would have to try both tyres on the same day to pick the difference. But having said that, the 640 seemed to have much better grip with the Shinko 540s than the 200EXC did with Michelin S12s; both were pretty much topping out so they probably couldn't have used any more grip to gain top speed.

Woodman

4th January 2011, 14:57

Umm maybe and maybe not. I've got evidence that modified DR's can out accelerate stock KLR's - easily :scooter:

Cheers R

If thats me your talking about on the KLR , I missed a gear. Honest I did, and in the first race I was watching the placard chicks:facepalm: and didn't see the flag guy.

And before anyone else says anything I did have one DNF in the feature race. Major fuel starvation issue is all I'm going to say.

padmei, have you looked at your clutch yet.

NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 16:01

And before anyone else says anything I did have one DNF in the feature race. Major fuel starvation issue is all I'm going to say.

Down to your last 5L :killingme

NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 16:03

If thats me your talking about on the KLR , I missed a gear. Honest I did, and in the first race I was watching the placard chicks:facepalm: and didn't see the flag guy.

Ha! He feels guilty! :scooter:

And it weren't even him!

Genie

4th January 2011, 16:20

Padmei

4th January 2011, 17:31

Thanks for the entertainment, my son loved it. I did too, think I might buy be a dirt bike next and then watch out, I'll race you, that looked like so much fun especially when the turnaround bits got all rutted up. Cheers for a fun afternoon.:woohoo:

It's funny that from the sidelines the backmarkers looked so slow going round the corners. When I was trying to pin it (yes believe it or not guys at times I was) it seemed so fast with so much going on at the same time.

Woodman I've taken the engine case off & have to take the clutch basket out to see why the lifter won't... um, lift. I'll take a short vid & put it on the KLR thread so I won't hear all the DR boys crapping on.

BTW thanks to alll those that helped in the pits & with support. Hopefully next year we can tempt a few more out there- maybe even a Welly contingent.

NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 17:43

It's funny that from the sidelines the backmarkers looked so slow going round the corners. When I was trying to pin it (yes believe it or not guys at times I was) it seemed so fast with so much going on at the same time.

Oh yeah :D

Looking at some of the pics and I'm not throwing any roost at all but the throttle is wiiiide open :scooter:

Bit annoying, that.

Underground

4th January 2011, 17:56

227836227835227834227833
Heres a few of 'our' team in action .By the way I've got hundreds so if anyone wants copys on a disc -PM me
We just got home ,had a minor problem last night when the mounting bolts on the camper's alternator sheared off :shit: no worries though ,being a mussel farmer I fixed it with string -lashed the alternator to the block and tightened up the adjuster ,got us home :yes:
That was an awesome day at the beach ,our whole family enjoyed it .
The tussle between the S10 and the K100 was particularly entertaining .

Genie

4th January 2011, 18:42

I took a couple on my phone, was a fun day, would have liked to of stayed longer and seen the big finale!

Woodman

4th January 2011, 18:55

[QUOTE=Underground;
Heres a few of 'our' team in action .By the way I've got hundreds so if anyone wants copys on a disc -PM me
We just got home ,had a minor problem last night when the mounting bolts on the camper's alternator sheared off :shit: no worries though ,being a mussel farmer I fixed it with string -lashed the alternator to the block and tightened up the adjuster ,got us home :yes:
That was an awesome day at the beach ,our whole family enjoyed it .
The tussle between the S10 and the K100 was particularly entertaining .[/QUOTE]

great pics, in hindsight I reckon we should have run with the k100 and s10 etc it would have made a great class. The s10 really should have been with us anyway from what Ryan and Colin were saying. Shit i could have told them the klr was pre 92.

NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 19:11

The S10 & K100 were in Pre '86.

NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 19:12

This is the track of the track...

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Padmei

4th January 2011, 20:25

Took the clutch basket off & seperated the plates. Looked & looked & couldn't find anything that looked broken, out of place or otherwise.

The lever bit that was rotating shoud have been sitting 5mm above the top as per wear marks. All it does is pull the lifter (rod thing) that pulls the pressure plate off - simple as that. I played around with things & then temp buttoned it up & tried it.

Seems to work when I push the bike however with a fair bit of resistance. I may have a stretched cable but will get a new gasket, fill er up & see what happens.

Anyone had any xperience with any similar problems. Even tho I was racing I'm sure I wasn't giving it any more than I would on a knarly day in the forest. I did redline it a few times tho however the engine temp guage never read any higher then normal (ie in the middle of the guage).

Underground could you email me a copy of that pic? I'll PM my email address.

warewolf

4th January 2011, 20:27

great pics, in hindsight I reckon we should have run with the k100 and s10 etc it would have made a great class. The s10 really should have been with us anyway from what Ryan and Colin were saying. Shit i could have told them the klr was pre 92.Both those bikes were eligible for both the pre-86 and the MX3 Open (with us). Yep, it would've been nice to be racing against them, too.

NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 20:42

helenoftroy

4th January 2011, 20:47

Great to catch up with you guys and watch the adv bikes having fun!!!!:woohoo:

Racing rocks!...:yes:
That K100 was awesome to watch!

See some of you again in a couple of weeks for the Dusty Butt

NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 20:50

Does this KLR make my bum look big?

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NordieBoy

4th January 2011, 20:52

That K100 was awesome to watch!

And to hear :yes:

Underground

4th January 2011, 21:07

Both those bikes were eligible for both the pre-86 and the MX3 Open (with us). Yep, it would've been nice to be racing against them, too.
Interesting the difference in riding styles for the types of bikes ,k100 was fast into the turn ahead of the s10 ,big wide power slide with knee on the ground and slightly behind on exit as opposed to the s10's slower tighter line ,they lapped at the same speed though .
This is one that didnt quite work out ,first pic he's saying "oh shit" second pic he's running back to pick the beast up after an epic slide down the beach.
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Underground

4th January 2011, 21:13

Underground could you email me a copy of that pic? I'll PM my email address.

Do you want the rest of the sequence that left this impression in the sand ?

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Phreaky Phil

4th January 2011, 21:14

Do you want the rest of the sequence that left this impression in the sand ?

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Woodman

4th January 2011, 21:15

Does this KLR make my bum look big?

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look , I am on a new years resolution to lose weight at the moment and that sort of comment is not helping:angry:

That pic looks like i,m setting up for the corner way too early

Underground

4th January 2011, 21:24

here you go then ,oh and one for warewolf :clap:
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warewolf

4th January 2011, 21:33

oh and one for warewolf :clap:Classic!  

helenoftroy

4th January 2011, 21:37

here you go then ,oh and one for warewolf :clap:
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Great shots!:woohoo:

cooneyr

4th January 2011, 21:39

If thats me your talking about on the KLR , I missed a gear. Honest I did, and in the first race I was watching the placard chicks:facepalm: and didn't see the flag guy.....

Not your KLR - the DR wasn't close to you :shutup:

...The s10 really should have been with us anyway from what Ryan and Colin were saying. Shit i could have told them the klr was pre 92.

The S10 wasn't first built until 89 so not quite sure how he ended up in the Pre 86 class. Still the K100 vs S10 was probably the most exciting (even) battle or the day.

And to hear :yes:

Geddoff - the S10 has a way nicer sound than the K100.

Righty some of my pics. Nordies advise seems to have paid off - pretty happy for a first time attempt. Got way more and heaps higher res if anybody wants them. I've put the pics into folders in Photobucket so click the pics below for more. Have a look at some of the Warewolf and Woodman pics for rear wheel look up and sliding both wheels (sand being pushed out by both wheels).

Firstly Mr #12 - cleaned up big time. Fastest guy on sand in NZ at the moment apparently. Unique cornering style - lock up the rear and get hard on the front from about 100m out, chuck in down about 3 gears during the slide, hopefully be good speed to comfortably tip in about level with the apex, handful of throttle and dump the clutch just before the apex and hang on power sliding out. Wheelie the first 1/3rd of the back straight about 1/2 the time - he was so far out in front.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/12%20-%20FAST/DSC_3047s.jpg (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/12%20-%20FAST/)

ADV pits, ramp off beach, adv guys on start and KLR vs DR evidence
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/ADV%20General/DSC_3001s.jpg (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/ADV%20General/)

Nordieboy Pics
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Nordieboy/DSC_3209s.jpg (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Nordieboy/)

Padmei Pics
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Padmei/DSC_3115s.jpg (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Padmei/)

Warewolf Pics
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Warewolf/DSC_3118s.jpg (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Warewolf/)

Woodman Pics
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Woodman/DSC_3188s.jpg (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Woodman/)

Pre 80's
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Pre%2080/DSC_2966s.jpg (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Pre%2080/)

Pre 86's
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Pre%2086/DSC_3259s.jpg (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Pre%2086/)

Quads
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Quads/DSC_3224s.jpg (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/cooneyr/NN%20Beach%20Racing%2011/Quads/)

warewolf

4th January 2011, 21:42

I was looking at my gearing chart, theoretical max was 190km/h at redline with that tyre. So on the firm surface there was approx 30km/h of wheelspin at 155km/h and a lot more on the soft stuff. :shit:

Peak power is 1500rpm below redline so taller gearing may have increased top speed, since the faster I went the less power the engine was producing. Not by that much as the torque curve is pretty flat, but changing sprockets would definitely be worth trying next time.

cynna

4th January 2011, 22:38

great pics there

didnt get many decent clips on the vid cam as i was too shakey for the zoom

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cynna

4th January 2011, 23:10

Padmei

5th January 2011, 07:40

excellent shots guys wow watching the vid got my heart going again.:woohoo:

NordieBoy

5th January 2011, 07:44

KLR vs DR evidence

Quick!
Put them in the right order!

Before Padmei sees!

:shit:

dino3310

5th January 2011, 11:10

excellent shots guys wow watching the vid got my heart going again.:woohoo:

fark got me going too:scooter: Might see an XR6 next year

Padmei

5th January 2011, 12:18

SOme pics of mine.

From the port races.

A photo of Nordie taking um a photo

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww103/padmei_crayfish/5thjan2010140.jpg

Some action coming out of the first corner. You can imagine the engines screaming

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww103/padmei_crayfish/5thjan2010144.jpg

My hero & mate Darren. He rode very bloody well & was middle pack with all the flash euro hitech machines.

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww103/padmei_crayfish/5thjan2010146.jpg

Posted before but very bloody scary if I say so myself

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww103/padmei_crayfish/5thjan2010153.jpg

Not quite so scary

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww103/padmei_crayfish/5thjan2010156.jpg

Woodman- The Elephant man -was getting a bit tired of getting roosted - nearly crying into his helmetso ripped up his favourite pillowcase

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww103/padmei_crayfish/5thjan2010158.jpg

NordieBoy

5th January 2011, 13:42

Woodman- The Elephant man -was getting a bit tired of getting roosted - nearly crying into his helmetso ripped up his favourite pillowcase

And there were flowers on it :killingme

cynna

7th January 2011, 08:26

excellent shots guys wow watching the vid got my heart going again.:woohoo:

managed to catch u on cam when u came off round the corner if you want me to post it up

NordieBoy

7th January 2011, 09:01

Mine are finally all edited.

Down to 188 pics.

Now to go through and cull the repeats a bit...

Padmei

7th January 2011, 20:29

managed to catch u on cam when u came off round the corner if you want me to post it up

Sorry cynna I don't remember coming off at all my little friend.. I take it you were the dude with the goatee? If so I didn't make the connection til now. I didn't get a chance to chat to ya the other day.Next year I'll get you to push gonzo back to the pits with me...

cynna

7th January 2011, 21:54

yep that was me - will be back next year so will introduce myself then

NordieBoy

8th January 2011, 08:00

yep that was me - will be back next year so will introduce myself then

Can't rush these things.

Woodman

8th January 2011, 08:02

yep that was me - will be back next year so will introduce myself then

sorry i should have introduced you proper like instead of just pointing.

dino3310

8th January 2011, 11:05

yep that was me - will be back next year so will introduce myself then

on the start grid with the XR i hope

junkmanjoe

8th January 2011, 11:22

I see you.....................................:blink:

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww103/padmei_crayfish/5thjan2010158.jpg

how did you do woodman...did you win ya race...

JMJ

Woodman

8th January 2011, 12:39

I see you.....................................:blink:

how did you do woodman...did you win ya race...

JMJ

No,did not win, not even close. We were in the mx3 open which was the fatest class their so didn't expect to win, but I was amazed at how quick the lead guys were. The top guy was pulling 180km/h from what I have heard.

In the end I just tried to keep as close to Warewolf as i could (which wasn't that close), but he had issues so I finished in front once and would have in the feature race too but one side of my tank ran dry:facepalm:

The best thing about it was seeing how late i could brake and how fast I could get round the corners without it going too pearshaped. A couple of times the backing into the corners would turn into a seamless drift out of the corner and that just felt so cool. It may not have looked as cool but who cares. It was also good to have some run off so if things did get fcuked up you didn't end up in a ditch or worse.

can I borrow your 950 next year Joe? if you still got it. I will treat it as if it was my own.

junkmanjoe

8th January 2011, 12:50

yup sure..........ill bring it down and watch you fang the crap out of it....:woohoo:

JMJ

NordieBoy

27th January 2011, 20:38

Bored board girls...
230144

Warewolf...
230145

NordieBoy

27th January 2011, 20:41

Warewolf's 2nd crash sequence...
230146230147230148230149230150

Padmei

27th January 2011, 20:43

Looks like the umpire's going "you're outtta there"

Woodman

27th January 2011, 20:59

That guy may well be wearing orange, but I really don't think he is a KTM fan.

Waihou Thumper

28th January 2011, 05:01

What was the orange strap connected to his wrist for? It looks like the same sort of cable I use for the locks on my wheels..:)

Padmei

28th January 2011, 06:50

Aha Ijust had a look at the pics again & that guy in the orange vest is the young apprentice I'm working with - I'll give him stick about that.

The orange strap is the tether kill switch um... tether

NordieBoy

28th January 2011, 07:25

What was the orange strap connected to his wrist for? It looks like the same sort of cable I use for the locks on my wheels..:)

The orange strap is the tether kill switch um... tether

Yep. Cause we is reel racerz now.

NordieBoy

28th January 2011, 07:30

Aha I just had a look at the pics again & that guy in the orange vest is the young apprentice I'm working with - I'll give him stick about that.

You need an excuse?

Padmei

1st September 2011, 22:04

Mmmmmmmmm... Just revisited this....Hmmmm

Shit we were sand roosting Gods:eek5::eek5::woohoo:

NordieBoy

2nd September 2011, 08:29

Still get the willie's thinking about how much the bike moved around on that soft sand straight.

dino3310

2nd September 2011, 17:10

what dates the next one

Padmei

2nd September 2011, 19:12

Prob around the same date.
it's tasman Speed week at the start of the year which includes the Port races, flat track race, beach races & this year a sealed hill climb. Check out the bottom of this calendar

http://www.sportsground.co.nz/ClubSite.asp?SiteID=13064&PageTypeID=3&PageID=45266

If there is interest I (or we) will organise a local Nads adv ride on one of the other days for those from out of Nelson taking in the Maungatapu (since a few haven't done it) & Hori bay with a coffee stop at Pelorus.
The other option may be a ride over the hill to Anatori or goldfields depending on if there are any takers & if they want a heavy bike or lil bike ride.

I myself am thinking of entering the BMW this year inbto the beachraces (already lining up a sponsor) & riding it in the older class.

i am also thinking seriously of taking a few days out of the busy season (NOV) & visiting the Burt Munroe rally. I was thinking about doing the beach race there (or the hill climb) but you need a MNZ licence which may end up being quite expensive.

warewolf

2nd September 2011, 19:12

Still get the willie's thinking about how much the bike moved around on that soft sand straight.D'ya wanna do a race on my 200 next time? :blip:

Padmei

2nd September 2011, 19:13

D'ya wanna do a race on my 200 next time? :blip:

Is the next race postponed till 2020?

warewolf

2nd September 2011, 19:55

Is the next race postponed till 2020?Cheeky shite! The engine is in NordieBro's hands at the moment.

Padmei

2nd September 2011, 20:07

Cheeky shite! The engine is in NordieBro's hands at the moment.

OMG it isn't is it????!!!!:pinch:

NordieBoy

2nd September 2011, 20:09

Cheeky shite! The engine is in NordieBro's hands at the moment.

2020 sounds reasonable then :D

Woodman

2nd September 2011, 20:39

Yes a ride around that time wouldbe good and also could bolster an adv class and give it some cred.

i,m thinkin of entering the klr in the old class as well. They will never know its an 05 and not an 87 and and anyway its just a whole heap of fun so places don't really matter.(although it was good beating Warewolf almost twice):whistle:

cooneyr

2nd September 2011, 21:13

.....I myself am thinking of entering the BMW this year inbto the beachraces .....

You'd better get on with some practice. The K100 and XTZ750 were pretty damn quick and entertaining - esp the K100. We'll be expecting some spectacular riding.

Cheeky shite! The engine is in NordieBro's hands at the moment.

Awesome - good to hear the little zinga might live again (soon ish)

Cheers R

warewolf

3rd September 2011, 10:05

I was thinking about doing the beach race there (or the hill climb) but you need a MNZ licence which may end up being quite expensive.Day licences when offered make it quite affordable for infrequent races, but remember a full licence means you won't have to pay any more licence fees for the year. Beach races, cross-country, endurocross, flat tracks... All of that can be attacked on the snotmobile or anything else you can get your grubby mitts on.

i,m thinkin of entering the klr in the old class as well. They will never know its an 05 and not an 87Follow-on models are permitted, ie those continued to be made after the cut-off year without significant changes, so it is legal for the class. I sneak the 640 into the pre-98 class but that's a bit of an arm twister since it got the high-flow head in 2003, but as I'm not competitive no-one really cares. Enter as many classes as you can, the more riding the better! I should be running the 200 and the 640.