Dirty Fucking Thieves

[Sycophant]

You know who makes good burgers? Wendy's does.

So I rode to Wendy Dominion Road to get a couple of burgers for me and my partner. I parked my bike, hung my helmet over the mirror and went in.

I ordered, paid and went back to the carpark just in time to see a guy running back to his car and drive off. I wondered what he was doing right about the same time I noticed my helmet was missing.

I cannot believe some motherfucker would steal my fucking helmet from my parked bike. What's more, if I hadn't stopped to grab some napkins on the way out I would have caught him in the act.

So, after calling the cops and offering a meager description (some brown guy, with two or three mates, in a black boy-racer sports car with silver mags - never got the rego) I had to chance the 1.6km ride home along Dominion Road with no helmet - I've never felt more vulnerable in my life, but I wasn't about to leave my bike behind after that.

So, if anyone sees a slightly scratched up XL size black CIRUS helmet with an 'Avid (http://www.avid.com/)' logo sticker on the back of it, please beat the shit out of whoever has it, and send me an email.

So, public transport to work for me tomorrow, and hopefully I can find a little free time to visit a bike shop or two and look for a good deal on a replacement (and no, there's no chance of claiming it on insurance - I have none).

A helmet. For fuck's sake. Why steal a helmet?

[igor]

A helmet. For fuck's sake. Why steal a helmet?

cause some dumb naive igit left it for the taking.

[Toast]

Bad luck mate. I've had shit like this happen...and dwelled over the fact that I wasn't there to stick my shin in the side of his head (or at least go down trying).

Too bad you didn't get the rego, then you'd know where he lives.

I never leave my helmet on my bike, unless it's got a cable lock through it. Lesson learned I hope mate, even though they probably have no use for it, there are shit heads who steal just 'cos they think it's funny to piss someone off. Keep an eye on trademe all the same.

[scooterboynz]

bummer man! theives are the lowest scum on the planet! i hope they get shit on!

[Skyryder]

Can't answer that question but apart from the value, stealing a helmut is worse than stealing the bike. It leaves the rider vulnerable to head injury. Pity you did no get the rego.
Most of us at some time or another leave our helmuts on our bikes for conveniance more than trust.

Chances are they are local. Just keep your eyes skinned.............who knows you might be lucky.


Skyryder

[mud boy]

igor.. you be a bit hard on em,

my old man and i "do it" all the time here in Tauranga!!!

i would be spewing... my helmit is my mum's one.. and i don't want to loose that!!! :no:

[What?]

Bugger. But WTF is good about Wendy's? :puke:

[Drew]

Like the man said, with luck, they will be local, and next time you see the car, leave your new helmet on your head so you cant be identified and start kicking shit out of the car.
If you do follow my advice, (not that anyone has in the past) dont accuse them, cos they willl denie it and you will have doubts, then you will miss your chance, just start kicking till you get tired, and walk off calmly. That way you look like a tuff cunt and they wont chase you, plus if they do, you still got your lid on and it wont hurt when they try to hit you!
Have fun and I hope you get payback.

[Cary]

cause some dumb naive igit left it for the taking.

Your bike have a helmet lock...................

[Sycophant]

I almost always lock it to the helmet hook under the seat, but I'd just been leaving it on the mirrors when I made quick stops recently (the seat lock is a bit fiddly and annoying if I have my hands full).

Oh well, I won't be doing that again.

[Coyote]

Bastards, although leaving it unguarded was an open invitation. And you ask why would they want to steal it? That's all homies do (I ammediately assume anyone stupid enough to steal is a homie, and I have a 999999:1000000 chance of being correct)

Hopefully their car has mags, so battery acid would work nicely on them. Alloys are no fun

[crashe]

Moral of the story here is NEVER leave your helmet on the bike.
Unless you can lock it onto the bike.

Would you want it back now after they have worn it...
they may have kit-toos....(sp)

I always carry my helmet even if after a while it gets heavy and cumbersome to carry around.

[Lou Girardin]

Do you have contents insurance?
PM me or come into AMPS, I'll see if I can do a deal for you.

[BNZ]

my old man and i "do it" all the time here in Tauranga!!!


Ive heard about those tauranga hill-billies... :weird:

[DingDong]

Where are all the local merchants??? guys! this thread is for you... give the guy a free replacement and get the backing of KBers :no:

Bummer dude, you might see them on the bus...

[mud boy]

Do you have contents insurance?
PM me or come into AMPS, I'll see if I can do a deal for you.
always the sales man eh!! :niceone:

[HDTboy]

Next time you see the car, give it a wash with brake fluid:D

[Sycophant]

A free replacement -- hah, yeah, I don't think I should be rewarded for my stupidity - but hopefully I can find a good deal.. I became a father 7 weeks ago, and money has suddenly taken on a whole new level of not-enoughness.

[Zed]

You know who makes good burgers? Wendy's does.Mmmm, delicious from time to time, but just like any junk food it tastes horrible if you eat it too much! :nono:


So I rode to Wendy Dominion Road to get a couple of burgers for me and my partner. I parked my bike, hung my helmet over the mirror and went in.The only time I ever leave any gear hanging off my bike is when it’s still in viewing distance from wherever I happen to be, otherwise my gear goes with me. Thankfully I’ve never had to learn that lesson the hard way like you Sychophant.

I cannot believe some $%^&* would steal my $%&* helmet from my parked bike.Surely you don’t mean that? :confused:

So, public transport to work for me tomorrow, and hopefully I can find a little free time to visit a bike shop or two and look for a good deal on a replacement (and no, there's no chance of claiming it on insurance - I have none).

A helmet. For pete’s sake. Why steal a helmet?Sorry it happened, but this is the world we live in & sometimes it ain’t pretty. :no:

[Indiana_Jones]

Man, you just don't mess with another man's vechicle, it's just not done, it's against the rules.

No trail, no jury, straight to excution :oi-grr:

-Indy

[Ghost Lemur]

Sucks bad Sycophant.

Just look on the positive side. Chances are they were after your bike and you interrupted them.

Unfortunately, chances are after a close call (if they've got one braincell between them) they'll have dumped the helmet.

Keep a close eye on your bike for a while, if it's been marked it could still be in danger. Or it could have just been an oportunist thing (more likely and less paranoia inducing).

[WINJA]

CAN YOU STEAL ONE OFF SOME ONE ELSE. JUST KIDDING . YOULL SEE YOUR HELMET AT MERE MERE NIGHT DRAGS NO DOUBT

[Sycophant]

Sucks bad Sycophant.

Just look on the positive side. Chances are they were after your bike and you interrupted them.


Nah, I doubt they were after the bike - looks like they were just some dicks on there way to the Wendy's drive thru when they saw something that wasn't nailed down that they could steal.


Unfortunately, chances are after a close call (if they've got one braincell between them) they'll have dumped the helmet.

Yeah, i took a little recce down the way they left to see if they'd chucked it out of the car or something, but no luck there. I might go back tomorrow morning, and have a look in the daylight.


Keep a close eye on your bike for a while, if it's been marked it could still be in danger. Or it could have just been an oportunist thing (more likely and less paranoia inducing).

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was a stupid opportunist thing. My bike is hardly prime pickings for theft - it's scratched up, in need of a tune up, and a bit dirty.

[DingDong]

CAN YOU STEAL ONE OFF SOME ONE ELSE. JUST KIDDING . YOULL SEE YOUR HELMET AT MERE MERE NIGHT DRAGS NO DOUBT
Good call...

[GNR]

Ive learnt.....after readin a few posts, don't leave helmet next to bike wen payin for fuel, i'll always carry it wth me now :D

[SPman]

Never leave your helmet on the bike, helmet lock or not
Friend had her helmet stolen - the brown fuck raced out of the car with a knife - Cut the strap!, grabbed the helmet, leapt back in the car with his mates and fucked off!
Outside Uni.
Tosser!

[Sycophant]

Ive learnt.....after readin a few posts, don't leave helmet next to bike wen payin for fuel, i'll always carry it wth me now :D

Yeah, I doubt it would have happened if I'd been in sight of the bike - but the whole thing is incredibly annoying. I'm just really pleased I wasn't further from home when it happened - and also that I don't have to be a work until later in the morning tomorrow.

[Sycophant]

Never leave your helmet on the bike, helmet lock or not
Friend had her helmet stolen - the brown fuck raced out of the car with a knife - Cut the strap!, grabbed the helmet, leapt back in the car with his mates and fucked off!
Outside Uni.
Tosser!
What use is it with a cut strap? I will probably still use the helmet lock, just because it's impractical to carry the helmet often. Although I could empty out my bike's boot and put the helmet in there, the way god (or Suzuki) intended. That's pretty safe. Although it's much handier keeping tools, wets, and other stuff in there.

[Waylander]

What use is it with a cut strap? I will probably still use the helmet lock, just because it's impractical to carry the helmet often. Although I could empty out my bike's boot and put the helmet in there, the way god (or Suzuki) intended. That's pretty safe. Although it's much handier keeping tools, wets, and other stuff in there.

Anything to annoy and inconveniance(sp?) bikers. What would a cage driving, slack jawed, son of a **** need with a helmet anyway?

[gamgee]

What use is it with a cut strap? I will probably still use the helmet lock, just because it's impractical to carry the helmet often. Although I could empty out my bike's boot and put the helmet in there, the way god (or Suzuki) intended. That's pretty safe. Although it's much handier keeping tools, wets, and other stuff in there.

well what use is a helmet to this deadbeat maori/ pacific islander anyway, it doesn't sound like they have anything worth protecting up there! faaar... i'd be fuming if this happened to me, but then i've got house and contents but still, i'd fly kick the bastards knee caps if i caught him then lay the sole of my boot into his eye sockets :mad: :mad: :mad: (don't steal my helmet if you know whats good for ya! :nono: )

[SlashWylde]

A helmet. For fuck's sake. Why steal a helmet?

'Cause they could, pure and simple.

[justsomeguy]

Aint hindsight a wonderful thing.....

Why not drop the wendys on the floor get on your bike and chase the bastards long enough to get their rego and some sort of a description......

Then go talk to the cops and see how they get their "much loved" reputation......ah easy to talk from the comfort of your bedroom........

Don't worry bout it now, it's all in the past, lesson learned, time to move on..... older and wiser

[gamgee]

i'm still young and stupid... :weird:

[Jantar]

Maybe I'm just TOO naive, but I can't see why anyone would say that Sychophant is even partly to blame for leaving his helmet on his bike. I'm sorry, but that "older but wiser" comment cuts no ice as far as I'm concerned. It is entirely the fault of the dishonest scums who took the helmet.

I know that there are some dishonest scums out there, but that shouldn't stop any of us from treating the rest of society as good honest people. We should all be able to leave our gear on our bike, safe in the knowledge that it will still be there when we return. When some dishonest creature dares to steal, then the full force of society should be brought to bear, to punish, and to educate. Note that I say the full force of Society, not the police, and not the justice system. It is only when the majority of people demand that this type of behaviour be stamped out that the politicians will direct the police and the dept of justice to take action. As long as we are prepared to accept a police force that will put traffic on a higher priority than acts of dishonesty, and as long as we accept that it can takes tens or even hundreds of such dishonest acts before a single individual is punished, and as long as we accept that even when punishment is dished out it doesn't even cover the cost of a helmet, then these acts will continue.

We must stop blaming the victim, and put the blame fairly where it belongs, with the Criminal. :doh:

[justsomeguy]

Maybe I'm just TOO naive, but I can't see why anyone would say that Sychophant is even partly to blame for leaving his helmet on his bike. I'm sorry, but that "older but wiser" comment cuts no ice as far as I'm concerned. It is entirely the fault of the dishonest scums who took the helmet.

I know that there are some dishonest scums out there, but that shouldn't stop any of us from treating the rest of society as good honest people. We should all be able to leave our gear on our bike, safe in the knowledge that it will still be there when we return. When some dishonest creature dares to steal, then the full force of society should be brought to bear, to punish, and to educate. Note that I say the full force of Society, not the police, and not the justice system. It is only when the majority of people demand that this type of behaviour be stamped out that the politicians will direct the police and the dept of justice to take action. As long as we are prepared to accept a police force that will put traffic on a higher priority than acts of dishonesty, and as long as we accept that it can takes tens or even hundreds of such dishonest acts before a single individual is punished, and as long as we accept that even when punishment is dished out it doesn't even cover the cost of a helmet, then these acts will continue.

We must stop blaming the victim, and put the blame fairly where it belongs, with the Criminal. :doh:

You also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy and the pots of gold under rainbows??

[inlinefour]

Probably to take to C Converters or TM, just to buy drugs or alcohol because he is a total looser who has not worked a day in his life... :weird:

[Jantar]

You also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy and the pots of gold under rainbows??

This is exactly the type of attitude that allows the criminals to believe they have the "right" to take some-elses property.

Don't say "...it's all in the past, lesson learned, time to move on...", rather make it public and keep these issues alive. Also keep right on badgering the police and asking what they are doing about it.

[Odin]

This is exactly the type of attitude that allows the criminals to believe they have the "right" to take some-elses property.

Don't say "...it's all in the past, lesson learned, time to move on...", rather make it public and keep these issues alive. Also keep right on badgering the police and asking what they are doing about it.

Hear Hear :not:

Thats though what young people with incorrect values do. Steal stuff just to steal it. They most likely drove arround with it for a while, then destoied it and dumped it.

Sorry for you loss man. Now did anybody see it... ? would anybody stand up to them ? try to stop them ? I'm 65Kgs but have a tendancy to rush in before i think. There was a couple of young dudes in the supermarket the other day, stealing some cokkies :weird: :weird: and i stopped them. Had my 2 little girls with me.... But what do i get ? If they get in to trouble ? will they come looking ?
Thats the world today....

[justsomeguy]

This is exactly the type of attitude that allows the criminals to believe they have the "right" to take some-elses property.

Don't say "...it's all in the past, lesson learned, time to move on...", rather make it public and keep these issues alive. Also keep right on badgering the police and asking what they are doing about it.

Fair enough.

I believe in the he helps those who help themselves attitude.

And the police don't usually do a lot, but that's just my personal experience with a similar issue.

By the way with the increasing levels of crime I seriously doubt it if the crims are going to suddenly discover honest ways, therefore I would advocate for more caution.

[Indiana_Jones]

Find a lamp post or tree, I'll bring the piano wire..... :devil2:

-Indy

[Brian d marge]

I know that there are some dishonest scums out there, but that shouldn't stop any of us from treating the rest of society as good honest people. We should all be able to leave our gear on our bike, safe in the knowledge that it will still be there when we return. When some dishonest creature dares to steal, then the full force of society should be brought to bear, to punish, and to educate. Note that I say the full force of Society, not the police, and not the justice system. It is only when the majority of people demand that this type of behaviour be stamped out that the politicians will direct the police and the dept of justice to take action. As long as we are prepared to accept a police force that will put traffic on a higher priority than acts of dishonesty, and as long as we accept that it can takes tens or even hundreds of such dishonest acts before a single individual is punished, and as long as we accept that even when punishment is dished out it doesn't even cover the cost of a helmet, then these acts will continue.

We must stop blaming the victim, and put the blame fairly where it belongs, with the Criminal. :doh:

Have to agree with you on this one ... Most of the crime- in-anals I have come across are mentally challanged, ( cos mum or dad didnt tell them at about the age of eight or so , I think it about this age they learn resposability and disapline )
Anyway they are not the brightest sparks, ie the hampsters dead but the wheels are still turning
I fully agree , a massive publicity campain , such as with drinking driving/speed etc saying its not socially tolerated ,,then at ( assuming no more resources are redirected )
Sentencing Strike 1
...community service for a looonnnnnggg time ( as this does actually benifit society , our community hall was repainted by them a good job needed doing )
Strike 2
No comunity service ...I would be inclined towards ARMY service . basic training and a custoadial sentence on top depending on the severity of the crime ( With no room for advancement etc)
Strike three
See what the sherrif did in Texas ( I think ) a quantalimo bay type enclosure ie concrete/bed/ surounded by a chain mesh fence IN THE MIDDLE of the DESERT
Now we dont have a desert by we do have that waruru ( desert road ) ...
big empty /F%&' cold ,,,not nice ....oh and this guy also fed the inmates the basic caloriffic value required ( I think it was beloney sandwaches or something like that ) ...Just enough and no more to maintain a basic health
I also think the only reading material was The bible or something like that ....
His response ..Tough you dont like it dont do the crime....

I looked into californicates three strike law, 25 years for the third felony , hasnt worked ,,,
Do an internet seach for Mary Smith hanged 1777 at the old bailey for stealing a hand kerchief , her husband was pressed ganged into the navy and she had 2 kids to feed ( one was still breast feeding) ,,,She changed her mind about stealing and put the cloth back down ,,BUT was found guilty and hung with the child still at her breast ..
So The crack down hard approach WithOUT the chance of education HAS been tried AND repeatedly fails.

Finally those who had ever had need of a Lawyer will know what DAMN good bullshitters they are
I was in court many years ago watching my friends case ( HE WAS a total Scuzzy ) ..but I tell you I ALMOST believed his LAWYER!!!!!
Possibly why the sentences are to lenient

It must be heart breaking for both police and Victim to see a naughty boy , slap on the wrist dont do it again ..... being handed out

Stephen

[Lou Girardin]

The Saudis remove hands for stealing. They still have thieves.
What else do you suggest, Jantar?
Perhaps if "good, honest" citizens didn't buy stuff off the back of a truck, there'd be less theft.

[Timber020]

Some guy cut the strap of my flatmates helmet to steal it from a helmet lock.

[avgas]

ya should have gone accross the road to burger fuel :)....nah just kiddin
Will beat the shit out of anyone who i see with that helmet boss (so tell me if you get it back:) )
I take it you cant fit a medium? cos you can borrow 1 of mine.

[avgas]

Anything to annoy and inconveniance(sp?) bikers. What would a cage driving, slack jawed, son of a **** need with a helmet anyway?
Dont be supprised if they dont know what it is.......wasnt shiny was it :yes: :whistle:

[Sycophant]

The most annoying thing is, I came out, saw the guy's car stopped in the middle of the carpark, thought "that's odd" then I saw the guy running back to his car and thought "wonder what he was doing" and it was as I was watching him drive off that I noticed my helmet was gone - otherwise I totally would have run after him (and perhaps got the shit kicked out of me) if I'd figured he had my helmet a second or two earlier.

[XTC]

The most annoying thing is, I came out, saw the guy's car stopped in the middle of the carpark, thought "that's odd" then I saw the guy running back to his car and thought "wonder what he was doing" and it was as I was watching him drive off that I noticed my helmet was gone - otherwise I totally would have run after him (and perhaps got the shit kicked out of me) if I'd figured he had my helmet a second or two earlier.
Lucky he didn't see the key in the ignition...... :)
Like everyone has said if you want to keep something - secure it. And jantar it's no use crying to the police if he hasn't made a token attempt at ensuring his property is at least a little bit harder to steal.

[bugjuice]

I always take mine with me, cos I find it handy for stuffing things in like gloves or holding my wallet while I fumble with the phone etc.. I'm not one to leave things to chance around here, as shit as that is.. Sux they made off with your lid. Wouldn't be worth claiming it anyway, you'd probably find the excess is more than the cost of a decent lid anyway. Saying that, there are some good lids at low prices in the shops at the moment.

[Ixion]

I always take mine with me, cos I find it handy for stuffing things in like gloves or holding my wallet while I fumble with the phone etc.. I'm not one to leave things to chance around here, as shit as that is.. Sux they made off with your lid. Wouldn't be worth claiming it anyway, you'd probably find the excess is more than the cost of a decent lid anyway. Saying that, there are some good lids at low prices in the shops at the moment.

Ditto. If I take it off, I usually stuff my gloves into it, and anything else I need to carry (unless I'm on the Whale , then I maybe put the gloves in a glovebox). Then I clip my keys to the D-rings, I have a dog-clip on the key ring for the prupose.Fasten the strap across the gloves and stuff.

Then all my stuff is contained in one neat package , large enough that even I won't lose it. And I can't lose my keys either.

I've never left my lid on the bike out of my sight, even on the "helmet lock" thingies.

[thehollowmen]

HD riders down here always leave the helmet on the seat, or over the top of the queen seat.
I'm surprised more of them don't get nicked.

sorry to hear about it, but be more careful next time. Hope they get done for it. Doesn't wendy's have a security camera?

[Beemer]

Unfortunately hindsight is a great thing, you always wish you'd done this or that AFTER some scum bag ruins your day! The fact is, some people will steal anything nowadays, whether they have a use for it or not. Look at how many priceless videos of weddings, etc., are stolen when thieves steal VCRs - they probably just get dumped so it makes you wonder why they bother.

I'd say the helmet would have finished up in Cash Converters the following day because even if it was old and scratched, it would most likely be worth something.

The main reason I never leave my helmet with my bike unless someone is staying with the bike is because I'd worry about someone knocking it over and damaging it. I've seen countless helmets fall off bike seats, get kicked on the ground or knocked off a mirror, and half the time the person who does it just puts it back and doesn't say anything. Great if you come off later in the day and find the helmet offers you no protection because it was already damaged. And I never leave anything portable on the bike unless I am sitting a few feet away and can keep an eye on it.

It's just a fact of life that you don't leave anything lying around because it's more than likely that someone will lift it. I've heard about kids breaking into cars to steal $5 worth of parking money left in a tray.

You say you have no insurance? Firstly, shame on you! Secondly, if you mean you have no bike insurance, but possibly have contents insurance, your helmet should be covered under that as it is classed as clothing and as such is covered when you are away from home.

[ManDownUnder]

Bugger. But WTF is good about Wendy's? :puke:

Free helmets?

Seriously though - you leave it out there, not locked or bolted down in some way and you can expect it to walk.

What get's me is that someone would have seen it happen... then done NOTHING about it it. They're sitting there... see some dudes lift the helmet off a bike and walk to a car with it... doesn't that LOOK suspicious to you?

See if Wendy's have a security cam or something (not liekly but you never know).

Hopefully it's insured?
MDU

[Wolf]

I have to agree with Jantar. We should not have to worry about bastards stealing our gear. I agree that no everyone is honest and that experience and wisdom etc teaches us that we should protect our gear, yada yada - but why does that have to be a "Life Lesson"? Why should one of our "lessons" be that other people are scum and not to be trusted?

Yesterday, Juliet accidenatlly stuck her hand through the middle pane of our front door - the one that would give easy access to the lock. We had to find a glazier willing to work "on account" as we did not have the money to get it fixed - won't until payday - but we could not leave our house without the door intact. This would have meant that our boys would have missed out on play-centre today because Juliet would not have been able to leave the house long enough to take them down the road to the play-centre (an easy walk away for a 2-year-old).

I resent the fact that our current society has degenerated to the point that we fear to leave the house with a window ajar or a pane broken in the door (not that a three-pane glass-and-wood door affords a lot of protection against a determined thief. All it does is stop the "opportunists".)

(Old Fart indicator ahead:) I recall when we were young we would go next door to the neighbours (or even up the road a fair way) and leave the doors open - not just unlocked - and have all the windows open and never fear that we'd come back and find the place had been robbed. And that was in town - we were even more lax out in the countryside.

Now you've got to secure the house and activate alarms and people still get in and burgle you.

If caught, the crim (sorry, "Underprivileged differently-employed victim of circumstances") gets to have all the understanding in the world from the court system and the home/property owner is punished by his/her insurer for "not taking due care and attention" and is told "well you should've done nore to prevent it by police, well-meaning friends and relatives and "society at large" - "Yeah, so you had a metal security grill over your door, but did you think to weld it shut and nail your door as extra precautions? I thought not - it was your fault. Leave that poor underprivileged person alone, he can't help being a thief."

The current attitude to crime I place firmly at the feet of PC morons who seem to think that relabelling a criminal constitutes justification of what they do to other people and that no one is responsible for thier own actions - it's "everyone else's fault".

"He can't help it, his daddy beat him when he was a boy. We must pity him." What's next? Prosecute the home/property owner for locking up and making it harder for the poor unfortunate bloke to steal anything? After all, we're depriving some underprivileged person of their "only means of survival" by taking security precautions. After all, it's not like there are any jobs out there or a social welfare system that gives away money and housing supplements, or churches who give aid, or soup-kitchens and other outfits giving away free food... [/sarcasm (for now)]

My dad beat the shit out of me pretty much every day of my life. However, I choose not to let that be an excuse to do as I please now. Hell, I choose not to let that be an excuse to inflict the same on my kids.

We are responsible for our own actions, we all make choices. And those guys chose to steal Sycophant's helmet (and other people's helmets too, from what I've read.

Sure, Sycophant chose to leave his helmet on his bike - but I'd support his right to make that choice any day over someone's "right" to choose to steal it.

I should be able to choose to leave my door open while I'm going over to a mates. I should be able to choose not to fear. But I cannot as "society" has decided to allow people to choose to come and take my stuff.

I say "society" because it is the majority of society that elects the government and decides what are the burning issues are - issues that the parties then use as their platforms. From the current posturing and posing, "society" cares more about tax cuts, where our road tax is going, immigration policies and whether the current government is supporting Maori Tertiary Education providers than it cares about our justice system or the increasing level of lawlessness here in "Godzone" (Hah!).

Why is there no noise from politicians about what they're going to do about crime? Because they do not perceive it as an issue. They have their own micro-fortresses (easy to have when you're a millionaire in your own right and on an MP/Prime Minister salary) and they have nothing to fear. They don't hear enough outrage from the people on the street to consider that the public is sick of crime - all they hear is acceptance of the current crime level - just so long as we can get tax cuts, have fewer Asians, and stop those queers from marrying each other.

As a nation, our priorities are fucked. I, for one, don't care who marries whom - or what race they are when they do it - just so long as my family is safe - but none of the parties have any clear stand on that matter.

The realist in me does not see us going back to the days of leaving the house open to air out (and our helmets on our bikes) while we "just nip up the road", but the humanist in me is angered that our society is so geared to protecting and accepting a minority (criminals) that the majority must suffer.

When Vifferman and I stage our coup and become "Benevolent Extreme Co-Dictators", there will be changes...

[Sycophant]

Well, I got a new helmet (Lou got me a decent deal at AMPS) but it's not as comfortable as my old helmet - presses on my forehead in a slightly uncomfortable way, but was all I could afford - at least I can get to work easily again. I won't be leaving my helmet unsecured on my bike again.

Sadly Wendy's claim to have no security cameras watching over their drive-thru, and I took a little walk through the area today, and didn't spot any other businesses with them either. So I don't think I will ever get my helmet back.

I've got some details I will fax to Cash Converters, but because I haven't been able to go to the Police Station to file a complaint yet, I don't think they'll be able to do much about it.

[Ixion]

HD riders down here always leave the helmet on the seat, or over the top of the queen seat.
I'm surprised more of them don't get nicked.

sorry to hear about it, but be more careful next time. Hope they get done for it. Doesn't wendy's have a security camera?

See, this is how low we've dipped in the eyes of society.

Reason no-one pinches a helmet off a H-D is simple. Would you take that risk ? In Joe Public's eyes he sees a HD, he think "Oh shit , nasty gang people. Not gonna risk having *them* on my case, cos they are nasty guys". So he leaves it alone.

I remember when Joe thought pretty much that about all bikes. "Shit mate don't mess with that, those bikers can be real nasty ".

Now they regard bikers (other than harley riders) as prats who they dis with safety. :mad: :mad:

[Marmoot]

...this deadbeat maori/ pacific islander anyway...

Not a very good thing to say....


Anyway, if you insist on locking your helmet to the bike, use a bicycle chain around anything solid (frame, etc) on the bike and the helmet chin piece .
They would have to cut either the chain or the chin piece (which will make the helmet useless).

I've learnt the hard way on using the bike helmet lock. They managed to steal it without even leaving a cut strap (dunno how they did it).

[Wolf]

Reason no-one pinches a helmet off a H-D is simple. Would you take that risk ? In Joe Public's eyes he sees a HD, he think "Oh shit , nasty gang people. Not gonna risk having *them* on my case, cos they are nasty guys". So he leaves it alone.
After reading Sycophant's loss, I went outside for lunch and went down to the free bike parking area to ogle (as I do frequently). There were two HDs parked up. Both yellow - as non-threatening-looking as an HD can get. On one, the helmet was parked on the mirror (Great "I'm not deaf, I just don't give a FUCK" sticker on the back of the helmet), the other, the helmet was parked on the ground beside the bike.

Obviously these guys felt no fear that anyone was going to fuck with their stuff.

Thing is, if we took the law into our own hands and re-established the appropriate level of fear to discourage others from screwing with us, we'd be the ones being prosecuted.

Years ago some little shit threw an apple core at me (60km/h + whatever velocity the apple was travelling at... right on the shin). Admittedly I was on the TS125 and didn't look the most intimidating figure, but when I was the age of that punk I'd never have incurred the wrath of "one o' them dangerous bikies" in such a fashion.

Unfortunately doing a U-ey and bashing three guys over the head with my helmet (I was not certain which of them threw it - I saw a figure in the group lash out his arm just before it struck me but I hadn't been paying them enough mind prior to that to be able to determine which generic PFY it was) would be construed by the Beak to be an "Excessive Response" - so I merely rode on, muttering imprecations.

[Waylander]

After reading Sycophant's loss, I went outside for lunch and went down to the free bike parking area to ogle (as I do frequently). There were two HDs parked up. Both yellow - as non-threatening-looking as an HD can get. On one, the helmet was parked on the mirror (Great "I'm not deaf, I just don't give a FUCK" sticker on the back of the helmet), the other, the helmet was parked on the ground beside the bike.

Obviously these guys felt no fear that anyone was going to fuck with their stuff.

Thing is, if we took the law into our own hands and re-established the appropriate level of fear to discourage others from screwing with us, we'd be the ones being prosecuted.

Years ago some little shit threw an apple core at me (60km/h + whatever velocity the apple was travelling at... right on the shin). Admittedly I was on the TS125 and didn't look the most intimidating figure, but when I was the age of that punk I'd never have incurred the wrath of "one o' them dangerous bikies" in such a fashion.

Unfortunately doing a U-ey and bashing three guys over the head with my helmet (I was not certain which of them threw it - I saw a figure in the group lash out his arm just before it struck me but I hadn't been paying them enough mind prior to that to be able to determine which generic PFY it was) would be construed by the Beak to be an "Excessive Response" - so I merely rode on, muttering imprecations.

Harley guys probaby have so much money that losing a lid everynow and then doesn't worry them that much.

As for the punks, yea quite a few of them round here. Had a guy that was gonna cross the street after I passed do a sort of lunge thing to try and trip me up and make me swerve. I swerved but not the direction he thought I would. Passed him close enough that if I chose to I could have swatted him across the face.

[scumdog]

You also believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy and the pots of gold under rainbows??

You my friend obviously live in a rotten part of the country, down here Jantar and I find Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy are alive and well!!
Also we DO leave out helmets and jackets on our bikes without them going a.w.o.l., then again in my case it MAY be because I own a H-D??

[Pixie]

Harley guys probaby have so much money that losing a lid everynow and then doesn't worry them that much.

As for the punks, yea quite a few of them round here. Had a guy that was gonna cross the street after I passed do a sort of lunge thing to try and trip me up and make me swerve. I swerved but not the direction he thought I would. Passed him close enough that if I chose to I could have swatted him across the face.
A friend had this happen to him in the eighties.
He ran the punk over.
It gets better...
The bike, a Z650, came to a stop with the headers burning into the wankers thighs.
Mmmm,skin grafts :devil2:

[Sniper]

That sucks mate. Bet it taught you a lesson though. Best of luck finding a new one