Sanity check: Garmin 76cx as first GPS

[chasio]

OK I am reeling a bit from starting up with GPS and lots of reading here, on ADVRider and assorted GPS forums.

Right now, the 76cx is on sale at US$199 plus US$42 delivery here (www.westmarine.com).

I am on the verge of ordering one. I was heading for a 60cx / csx, which seem popular on here and are available on eBay for around $230 right now (csx actually going for less than the 60cx). I read it that the 76cx is a 60cx in different clothes.

I don't believe I need the barometer and compass of an 's'. I prefer a compass to work without batteries and can't see a use for me for the former.

Use will be motorbike (aiming to do the DB1K when I am ready, for instance, but also for road & easy dual touring), tramping and kayaking. On the water the 76 is in front as it floats, unlike the 60 series, and waterproofing should be better. 76 is reportedly easier to use with gloves on as well.

The new 78 seems to be getting good feedback but is 50% more and I can't afford a Zumo 550. NZ $322 landed seems a bloody good deal.

Is there any reason to think the 76cx is a daft option for use as above in NZ?

Thanks - Chasio

[Eddieb]

I had a gander at it online and nothing jumped out technically, though i've never used one so wouldn't be considered knowledgable on them https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=350#specsTab

I did notice however that they are listed as a discontinued product.

[cromagnon]

The 60csx is available at US$199 as well at http://www.gpscity.com/garmin-gpsmap-60csx.html or US$207 with 2gb micro sd http://www.gpscity.com/garmin-gpsmap-60csx-2gb.html. There are lots of opinions on advrider in regards to 60 vs 76, mostly comes down to personal preference with no highly important technical reasons. Most dse stores stock the 60/76 if you want to check them out. I would also recommend getting any mounts you need for the gps in the same order to save on international shipping and cheaper prices.

[chasio]

Yes, they are discontinued, hence the price I expect.

Trig Instruments here no longer offer the units although accessories are plentiful. The thing is, I don't need the latest and greatest, just a decent GPS that can route and track. :)

Stop press: I see Simon in Nelson is selling a 60Csx on TardMe for $200 reserve for a 2 year old unit. Prefer a new unit unless personally recommended, though...

[chasio]

The 60csx is available at US$199 as well at http://www.gpscity.com/garmin-gpsmap-60csx.html or US$207 with 2gb micro sd http://www.gpscity.com/garmin-gpsmap-60csx-2gb.html. There are lots of opinions on advrider in regards to 60 vs 76, mostly comes down to personal preference with no highly important technical reasons. Most dse stores stock the 60/76 if you want to check them out. I would also recommend getting any mounts you need for the gps in the same order to save on international shipping and cheaper prices.

Thanks I'll check out shipping etc. Bike seems to be either/or but for kayak use perhaps the floating 76 is a winner but tramping the 60csx probably wins out.

Like I said, I'm reeling a bit but at least I'm down to two (I think).

Just off to Dick's for a look-see...

Edit: Shipping and accessories are both cheaper from GPSCity... maybe the 60csx wins and I'll just have to be very sure to clip it on for kayak use.

Is the 60csx OK with winter gloves?

[That looks like fun]

http://www.triginstruments.co.nz/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27_84&products_id=585&osCsid=ddfea8ff03dd81372d47e9d8947ef084
http://www.triginstruments.co.nz/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27_84&products_id=574&osCsid=ddfea8ff03dd81372d47e9d8947ef084
Couple of good 'reasonable priced thingys :yes:

[chasio]

http://www.triginstruments.co.nz/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27_84&products_id=585&osCsid=ddfea8ff03dd81372d47e9d8947ef084
http://www.triginstruments.co.nz/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=27_84&products_id=574&osCsid=ddfea8ff03dd81372d47e9d8947ef084
Couple of good 'reasonable priced thingys :yes:

Thanks yes, had a look at those although reckon I need to factor in a RAM mount or damped home made solution for use on the Freewind.

If I do order from GPSCity the bar mount (which would be ok for my treadly, I guess) is US$11 and the bare wire power cable is US$19. So as Cromagnon suggests, it would make sense to fill my boots!

[JATZ]

I have a 76cx.... works o.k. for me and does every thing I want it to do. I run it from a 12v socket on the bike so battery jiggle isn't an issue.
I chose it over the 60 because it was more marine orientated, hence more water proof, was my thinking.

[Waihou Thumper]

I have used a Garmin 60Cx now for four years. I feel they are a great piece of kit, perfect for ADV riding. The unit can be mounted on my bars, it works well in rough weather, is waterproof and handles the conditions. I used it for DB last year and it was fine.
One thing I did find was that in bright sunlight it is hard to see the route, but you just stop, shiled it and go again, no big issue.
Battery life is great and I also have it hard wired to the battery, draw is minimal, I have had a few rest stops and left it on many a time and all is good..
Buttons are small, I agree but at the end of the day I would have these over the Zumo anytime....
:)

[johannvr]

Thanks yes, had a look at those although reckon I need to factor in a RAM mount or damped home made solution for use on the Freewind.

If I do order from GPSCity the bar mount (which would be ok for my treadly, I guess) is US$11 and the bare wire power cable is US$19. So as Cromagnon suggests, it would make sense to fill my boots!

I've used my 60Cx for around 2 years now on the DR with the Garmin Bar Mount & so far have not (yet?) had any issues related to excessive vibration or such. Would maybe also have preferred a RAM mount, but at the price, so far, so good ... your Freewind just cannot shake rattle & roll as much as the DR does :blink:

[Waihou Thumper]

your Freewind just cannot shake rattle & roll as much as the DR does :blink:
Or a 640 Adventure or a SXC625....It aint ever gonna worry the unit. The only thing you may have to do is secure the plug to the back.....Most frustrating when it falls out and you have to try and use one hand to stay upright and the other to plug in the GPS to keep tracking...:)

[Blackbird]

I have a 76 CX which I have on the bike. Had it for 5 years. Screen is small compared with "modern"GPS's, but it's still fine. I have NZ-sourced auto-routing from here: http://www.nzgpsmaps.com/index_800_600.html. Easy to program from a laptop too, which is what I did for the recent 1000 miles in 24 hours ride. I bought a proper Garmin cradle for the GPS and adapted it to a steering head stem mount. Oh, and the unit is waterproof which is a big plus on a bike.

Some photos at the bottom of this page: http://geoffjames.blogspot.com/2010/04/farkle-day.html

PS, there's no voice commands on the 76CX, just beeps and text/direction arrows additional to the map but this has always been perfectly adequate.

[chasio]

I've used my 60Cx for around 2 years now on the DR with the Garmin Bar Mount & so far have not (yet?) had any issues related to excessive vibration or such. Would maybe also have preferred a RAM mount, but at the price, so far, so good ... your Freewind just cannot shake rattle & roll as much as the DR does :blink:

The Freewind is just a fat DR650 in drag! But I won't hit it as hard as many of you guys hit yours, except unintentionally. :facepalm:

Chasio

PS OK and a bit pokier and with a smaller front wheel until you swap one in from (drumroll) a DR650!

[Eddieb]

Or a 640 Adventure or a SXC625....It aint ever gonna worry the unit. The only thing you may have to do is secure the plug to the back.....Most frustrating when it falls out and you have to try and use one hand to stay upright and the other to plug in the GPS to keep tracking...:)

Especially when your trying to ride up a sand dune at the same time.

[chasio]

I have a 76 CX which I have on the bike. Had it for 5 years. Screen is small compared with "modern"GPS's, but it's still fine. I have NZ-sourced auto-routing from here: http://www.nzgpsmaps.com/index_800_600.html. Easy to program from a laptop too, which is what I did for the recent 1000 miles in 24 hours ride. I bought a proper Garmin cradle for the GPS and adapted it to a steering head stem mount. Oh, and the unit is waterproof which is a big plus on a bike.

Some photos at the bottom of this page: http://geoffjames.blogspot.com/2010/04/farkle-day.html

PS, there's no voice commands on the 76CX, just beeps and text/direction arrows additional to the map but this has always been perfectly adequate.

Thanks, will check it out. :)

Your comments on here had in part swayed me towards the 76cx over the 60cx.

I guess the 60csx will be sufficiently waterproof as well and will come in a touch cheaper. Will read the replies coming in here and ponder on it.

Chasio

[Waihou Thumper]

Especially when your trying to ride up a sand dune at the same time.

Yeah! Though, falling off never happened because of that...It was a result of the front wheel digging in, me trying in vain to bring the rear down and then realising there aint any oomph...over we went...:angry: Despite all of this, the GPS still was attached, it was working....The altitude changed...:) it was calibrated originally for the bike being Horizontal....:woohoo: Most of the time......:)

[chasio]

OK, had a play with a 78 and a 60cx today (no 76cx in stock).

The 78 has a nicer interface and easier to use buttons for gloved hands but reminds me of a 1982 remote control: big and fugly. Why they made it white and grey I don't know: everyone knows black is more slimming :)

Anyway I assume the 76cx would feel similar and I am thinking of a multi-day kayak trip next year and a floating unit will probably save my bacon.

The 60cx was MUCH nicer in the hand and for tramping only it wins easily for me. But since my main use is on a bike, the extra weight is not an issue and the big buttons win.

Now here's a thing: PBTech do the 78 for $450 incl. and I can probably get a bit off that through my company as we get a discount.

So I'm probably only looking at $100 difference over the US 76cx to get a local 78 with 65k colour screen, nicer menu system, 1.7GB on-board memory and multiple map support. And I can take it back to the shop if it goes wrong.

So right now the 78 is leading for me. I'll sleep on it.

Chasio

PS I have no idea why the 78 still ony has USB 1.1 when the 78s gets USB2. I hope I can get data onto the internal memory by copying from micro SD card but if not, patience will be needed!

[sinned]

I have used a Garmin 60Cx now for four years. I feel they are a great piece of kit, perfect for ADV riding. The unit can be mounted on my bars, it works well in rough weather, is waterproof and handles the conditions. I used it for DB last year and it was fine.
One thing I did find was that in bright sunlight it is hard to see the route, but you just stop, shiled it and go again, no big issue.
Battery life is great and I also have it hard wired to the battery, draw is minimal, I have had a few rest stops and left it on many a time and all is good..
Buttons are small, I agree but at the end of the day I would have these over the Zumo anytime....
:)

100% agree and I have Ram mount + battery connection which is required for all night riding. Here is my review of the 60CSX;
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/115204-Garmin-GPSmap60CSx-%E2%80%93-Review-as-Motorcycle-GPS
Hope that helps your decision.

[chasio]

Thanks. I far prefer the 60csx from an 'in hand' perspective and it has many fans, so this is a tough one. :blink:

[NordieBoy]

Oooo...

Trig have a Nuvi 500 for $410

It's a Zumo 260? without the blueteeth.

[chasio]

Now you're just messing with my head! :blink:

[NordieBoy]

I like the 500 for the size of the screen.
The 60/72/Quest/etrex series are better from the customizability side of things.

But I'd rather get my 500 fixed than put the Quest back on. The Quest doesn't have the high sensitivity antenna.

My main issue is the 500 doesn't do track management.
It archives the old tracks off into another folder and you can't choose to display them at all.

It's got 2Gb of built in storage though.

[chasio]

Thanks, I'll look into it some more. [Edit: the price is $410 ex GST so $471 for those of us that aren't GST registered! Or $435 inc from PBTech.]

FWIW - I noticed in PBTech yesterday that the Nuvi units have an offer currently to get the Garmin Aus/NZ maps with updates for free.

[Transalper]

I tend to think Nuvi or Zumo for more roady type stuff but as soon as you want to leave the vehicle you better off with a handheld.

[chasio]

Tending to agree there, especially as none of my backpack, pushbike or kayak has a 12v power supply... The Nuvi has a custom battery, so no emergency purchase of AA's at the nearest servo.

But I am going to shoot down the road and have a play with one for giggles.

[chasio]

Insanity check: the 2 year old 60csx on TardMe has gone for $452 or $120 more than a brand new one from GPS City...

[Transalper]

Yea but you're still talking an overseas purchase vs NZ market.
Still it seems a weee bit for second hand, or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about as I only bought new and locally for just $133 more for the newer model.
I'm still happy with the price I paid and service I got and the Map62s itself.

[chasio]

Nice choice: the 62s is lovely in hand and would probably* be my choice for bike and tramping only, budget permitting.

I see where you're coming from on local and I'm still erring towards the NZ new GPSMAP78 for myself, because the ability to get local support is a major bonus for a new unit. But that advantage disappears if buying a 2 year old GPS, so for me buying new from the US edges out local second-hand at the same price and once it's a lot cheaper to buy new (to cover return shipping for warranty if needed), there's just no contest, as I see it.

Chasio

* Assuming battery power only

[Transalper]

I know you know this already but to summerise the comparsion... 62 vs 78.
The 62 and 78 are the same except the 78 is 41grams lighter, floats, has the buttons above the screen, has the water resistant external power plug and has a couple of mm difference in the overall dimensions (wider but shorter sort of thing).
You mentioned kayaking, their all IPX7 water rated but the 78 series floats.
Screens are identical etc so no advantage between either option there.
The power socket on the 78 would have been good if I wanted to run the backlight on full all the time so in hindsight that may have been a good idea. The screen is best on a dull day. At night I use the backlight on low so that's ok too, but in bright sunlight (especially when wearing sunglasses) to see clearly the sun has to hit the screen at the correct angle otherwise it's hard to see without the backlight on full so on a long trib I sometimes tweak the angle of the ggps after turning corners to conserve batterys rather than turning on the backlight.. ( I have yet to test how long the batterys last with the light permanently set on full on the new 62s).

I like the electronic compass on the 's' models as when standing still when set to track up I can turn and the maps turn with me, I lived without it on the old Legend but really like it especially when geocaching.
The USB2 on the 's' is great too.

I like the newer models over older but that price you first mentioned for the older 76cx seemed pretty good too.

I have no real issue with buying overseas, I suspect the trademe guy just hadn't looked or considered it.
If you are happy with the layout of the 78 then you know which one to get. Some say it's easier to use one handed with the buttons up there. Never tried it for myself.
I do admire your patients and ability to shop around for that very best price, though I also like the guy at kiwigps so in the case of gps that remains my shop of choice.
I also like dealing face to face which for me is one of the worst pitfalls of buying online... no face to face.

Good luck with your purchase.

[chasio]

Thanks for your detailed comments - it's bloody useful to have them from a hands on user.

Heck, I hadn't thought about the map orientation thing when not moving, although I don't geocache (yet). It's pushing the price up though... unless I get the 60csx and lose flotation and the new features, processing power and on-board memory.

I don't think any of the units would be a 'bad' choice but bugger me it is hard to pick one! I have analysis paralysis.

:blink:

[NordieBoy]

I have analysis paralysis.

Constipation?

[Triwi]

Go and talk to Tony at Kiwigps. Can highly recommend him and his patient, clear aftersales answers. (See mention by Transalper above as well) Also you get to sit in his office surrounded by electronic choices. You will just give in and walk out with the answer to your problem clutched tightly in hand.
Easy
cheers
Triwi

[chasio]

I believe both of you about his qualities but heading to Chch for a chat is a bit of a mission from the North Shore! I have had a look at his site and I notice he doesn't list the 78 or 62 plain models, only the "s" of each. Interesting.

[Transalper]

Ha ha, your profile doesn't help people help you but I picked up that you are probably up Ak way when you were talking about shops that seemed to be up there when you weren't talking about shops that are overseas.

On a side note I ran the 62s today with the Backlight on full all day using the Energizer 2450mAh Rechargeables and it went for just over 10 hours.
It want something like this...
8.5 hours with battery indicator on full then it looses one bar.
9 hours the indicator dropped another bar to half.
9.5 hours the indicator dropped another bar to quarter.
9 3/4 hours Battery low message appeared.
10 hours 8 minutes unit turned off.

Not too bad, next I suppose I should see how long it goes with the light off... they claim up to 20 hours. I'll start now.

[cromagnon]

Ha ha, your profile doesn't help people help you but I picked up that you are probably up Ak way when you were talking about shops that seemed to be up there when you weren't talking about shops that are overseas.

On a side note I ran the 62s today with the Backlight on full all day using the Energizer 2450mAh Rechargeables and it went for just over 10 hours.
It want something like this...
8.5 hours with battery indicator on full.
9 hours the indicator dropped one bar.
9.5 hours the indicator dropped another bar to half full.
9 3/4 hours Battery low message appeared.
10 hours 8 minutes unit turned off.

Not too bad, next I suppose I should see how long it goes with the light off... they claim up to 20 hours. I'll start now.

I look forward to the hourly updates throughout the night :shutup:

[chasio]

Ha ha, your profile doesn't help people help you but I picked up that you are probably up Ak way when you were talking about shops that seemed to be up there when you weren't talking about shops that are overseas.

On a side note I ran the 62s today with the Backlight on full all day using the Energizer 2450mAh Rechargeables and it went for just over 10 hours.
It want something like this...
8.5 hours with battery indicator on full then it looses one bar.
9 hours the indicator dropped another bar to half.
9.5 hours the indicator dropped another bar to quarter.
9 3/4 hours Battery low message appeared.
10 hours 8 minutes unit turned off.

Not too bad, next I suppose I should see how long it goes with the light off... they claim up to 20 hours. I'll start now.

Oops, forgot about that! Pretty big clue added :)

And I don't know what tenterhooks actually are, but figuratively I'm on them!

[Transalper]

about 37° South, very nice. :laugh:

So running this map62s with the backlight off it went for about 12.5 hours then dropped to 3/4 on the indicator.
At 14 hours I noticed it was reading half full.
At 14 hours 15 minutes I heard a beep and saw the Battery Low message, 5 minutes latter it was off.
Looks like I'll need 3 sets of batterys for the 2 day Dusty Butt. It will be fine for most of my days out with it, if I started over I would probably go with the new one with the power plug... the Map78s.

Will get more of a real world test this weekend as we do a couple of big days down Southish. Might try the Panasonic Batterys too, they are slightly more mAh.

It's bound to get closer to the advertised 20 hours if I fed it good single use Energiser Lithiums.

[cromagnon]

about 37° South, very nice. :laugh:
It will be fine for most of my days out with it, if I started over I would probably go with the new one with the power plug... the Map78s.
.

I have been getting, very roughly, 10-12 hours out of the 2500mAh batteries, backlight on. I have the usb power suppy with cigarette lighter which works fine on the road but havent tried it offroad yet. When the usb power supply is pulled out the unit gives you 30 seconds to hit enter, if you want to switch to batteries, before turning itself off if you do nothing.

[Transalper]

Only trouble with powering it through USB on the bike is that unless you can beef up the plug *give it a nice tight rubber surround that fits like the rubber cap does?) it is not water resistant at all...from what I understand.

Actually, that may be quite doable, will have to investigate it as an option.

Certainly fine in the car.

[JATZ]

I have been getting, very roughly, 10-12 hours out of the 2500mAh batteries, backlight on. I have the usb power suppy with cigarette lighter which works fine on the road but havent tried it offroad yet. When the usb power supply is pulled out the unit gives you 30 seconds to hit enter, if you want to switch to batteries, before turning itself off if you do nothing.

I have to "restrain" my power plug with one of mrsJatz's hair ties, still..... much better than replacing batteries constantly

[cooneyr]

Ah the good old Legend which will do 2 1/2 days (10ish hours a day) on one set of alkaline batterys. You boys and your fancy toys :bleh:

[cromagnon]

Only trouble with powering it through USB on the bike is that unless you can beef up the plug *give it a nice tight rubber surround that fits like the rubber cap does?) it is not water resistant at all... from what I understand.
Certainly fine in the car.

There is probably a gap of half a mm or less, I think it could be made relatively waterproof with extra rubber, the antenna would also need to be covered as the flap on the back doesnt like to stay half in place.

Now where did I put my hair ties :o:p

[chasio]

Only trouble with powering it through USB on the bike is that unless you can beef up the plug *give it a nice tight rubber surround that fits like the rubber cap does?) it is not water resistant at all...from what I understand.

Actually, that may be quite doable, will have to investigate it as an option.

Certainly fine in the car.

Stick a condom over the whole thing and tie it off at the base around the mount. The pressure would retain the cable in the back of the unit and it would be waterproof.

Sorted.

:innocent:

[JATZ]

FWIW Last week I got a ram mount for the 76 from the good fellah at KiwiGPS, reeal quik at replying to e-mail, and he had all the bits in stock. Would definitly trade again, have a smiley :D
So now there's no excuse to get lost on the D.B. again :blink:

[NordieBoy]

So now there's no excuse to get lost on the D.B. again :blink:

Or out Hori Bay.

We'll have to knob up the bikes and start getting tracks of the um.. tracks....

[JATZ]

Or out Hori Bay.

We'll have to knob up the bikes and start getting tracks of the um.. tracks....

O.K. :yes:

[cromagnon]

The 60cx is at US$169 on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-GPSMAP-60Cx-Handheld-Navigator/dp/B000CSWHCY/ref=sr_1_4?s=gps&ie=UTF8&qid=1291920156&sr=1-4

[thepom]

Sadly I just tried to order the gps from amazon along with the case and memory card and it would not let me buy it due to postal restrictions.....I think they want us to buy it here in newzealnd......same happened with an ohlins shock once too re a rotting stench thread....

[cromagnon]

Sadly I just tried to order the gps from amazon along with the case and memory card and it would not let me buy it due to postal restrictions.....I think they want us to buy it here in newzealnd......same happened with an ohlins shock once too re a rotting stench thread....

Shit sorry I didnt realise, the 60csx is still US$199 over at gpscity.com and they ship internationally.

[thepom]

Cheers for that,just bought one..:yes:

[Padmei]

Not sure if you guys have kids or not but Geocaching (http://www.geocaching.com/map/default.aspx?lat=-43.53164&lng=172.63664) is a great pasttime if you're travelling to other places by car & want to give them a break. You'll be surprisd how many are round your area that you didn't know about.

Or you may already know about it...

[chasio]

I knew there was a reason I was procrastinating.

Checked back yesterday and the 76cx is currently $180 at West Marine. I've just ordered one, which should arrive next week (hope so!). Got a deal on some accessories, too, by asking nicely.

I very nearly talked myself up to an NZ new 78s but decided to keep the coin for the bike itself. If I get hooked, a 62s could be on the shopping list in a couple of years but I reckon the 76cx will do what I want for now.

I'm planning to order a RAM mount from GPSCity so if anyone is after any bits and wants to split postage, PM me by 8pm today.

Thanks for the advice

Chasio

PS Padmei - yes, Geocaching is of interest. We've done letterboxing on Dartmoor a few times and it sounds like a global version of that... A 62s would be perfect for it :)

[Transalper]

Congratulations on your purchase, looks like a decent price on a decent unit to get you started where you want to go.
You now have much experimenting ahead of you to find the set up that works best for your navigation style.
Several years down the track and I'm still experimenting from time to time with page sequences and different data fields displayed etc.

Just recently discovered how useful it is to have one of the 2 data fields I have displaying above the map to be designated to the 'pointer'.
It is effectivly a little red arrow pointing in the direction of the next via point or waypoint.
It would have eliminated the issue at the only real point of confusion I had up the Nevis where on my screen it looked like the route line was going two directions. Now the arrow would show me which way to go to the next waypoint so as not to end up at the previous one again.

Actually I think I'll mention that in the official thread tonight if I can set it up for a screen shot of what I mean when I go home from work.

[NordieBoy]

That's the main issue I have with the Nuvi 500/Zumo 200. The non-adjustable fields :angry:

[Triwi]

Not sure if you guys have kids or not but Geocaching (http://www.geocaching.com/map/default.aspx?lat=-43.53164&lng=172.63664) is a great pasttime if you're travelling to other places by car & want to give them a break. You'll be surprisd how many are round your area that you didn't know about.

Or you may already know about it...

Hey what about us mature types on our moto's.
2 gents, staring at devices clutched in their hands, wandering around in circles, then suddenly disappearing into the bushes. 5 min later wander out looking pleased with themselves, onto the bikes and away.
Geocaching aint for the fainthearted when there's an audience.
cheers
Triwi

[Crim]

Cheers for that,just bought one..:yes:

G'day Kenny
Your unit turned up yet, mate?
Cheers Crim

[chasio]

Actually I think I'll mention that in the official thread tonight if I can set it up for a screen shot of what I mean when I go home from work.

Thanks :) The pointer sounds like a good idea; and where's the official thread?

Been playing with mine. It came with a 1GB card (bonus) and I have a 512MB and a 2GB knocking about, so as to make map management a bit easier. But bugger me, the spring on the card release is pretty pokey: I nearly lost one out the window into the flower-beds this morning. Technique has been adjusted to suit.

The combined topo/routing map is a bit out of date for road use but the weekly updated ones solve that.

BTW if anyone has a copy of the tide tables that come with the NZ Bluechart that they're willing to part with, please PM me!

Cheers - Chasio

[thepom]

Yup....turned up and very happy with it too..and top marks to chasio for going halves on the postage for the RAM mounts and to TA for loading my maps and the instructions and hope they have a safe and great holiday....

[Crim]

to TA for loading my maps and the instructions and hope they have a safe and great holiday....

yeah was wondering 'bout that - how hard is that? - the only thing holding me back is getting local support if my technophobia kicks in

[Crim]

few beers over christmas eve lunch and hey presto a 60csx, mount and 2 gig card on their way:woohoo:

[thepom]

Good on ya cim,you ll be very happy with it.....I know I am but have lost one of the nuts from the u bar mount so wil have to visit the hardware shop before I can fit it....

[Crim]

Hey Kenny,
unit turned up today (weren't in yesterday when they tried) :woohoo: - amazing speed over xmas / NY - now just got to work out how to use the bloody thing :facepalm: had a quick look :blink:, I am sure it will all make sense in time
Cheers Crim