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Spazman727
30th November 2010, 13:58
Do people buy into all this man shit that's being advertised at the moment. Im mean the new Ranfurly ads, the mantrol car ads, I think there's one for Speight's too. It seems pretty stupid to me, are New Zealand men that insecure about their masculinity that they need to buy stuff that's specifically advertised to them as being a manly thing to have/do? It's like that car ad a few years ago with the guys at a BBQ who all have high voices because they don't have this particular car, then a dude pulls up in one and his voice is all deep and manly sounding. If I saw someone diving round in one of those ( I can't remember what it is now) I would think they are trying to compensate for something.
Rant over... for now.

MSTRS
30th November 2010, 14:00
You see the difference between advertising and marketing?

White trash
30th November 2010, 14:02
I think they're just supposed to be funny, except the Mantrol one of course.

Doesn't take much to get your panties in a bunch, does it Spaz?

Spazman727
30th November 2010, 14:08
I think they're just supposed to be funny, except the Mantrol one of course.

Doesn't take much to get your panties in a bunch, does it Spaz?

To be honest, no it doesn't. But do people really need to buy 'manly' products to feel manly? I would've thought it had more to do with how you feel and act. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but the people who I look up to don't need to have things that they are told are manly to feel manly, they are manly and secure without all that shit.

slofox
30th November 2010, 14:11
I reckon running around feeling manlies would probably get you your head knocked off pretty quick, n'est ce pas?

jim.cox
30th November 2010, 14:13
I'm with Spazman - those ads suck big time

Heck, even my ten year old son thinks the 'Mantrol' thing is big bunch o' crap

scumdog
30th November 2010, 14:14
To be honest, no it doesn't. But do people really need to buy 'manly' products to feel manly? I would've thought it had more to do with how you feel and act. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but the people who I look up to don't need to have things that they are told are manly to feel manly, they are manly and secure without all that shit.

Going by the raft of ads aimed at the feminine gender there must be a shitload of insecure sheilas out there.....


(I'll just slip out for my MANicure, facial massage and have a latte' while I'm at it.....)

ducatilover
30th November 2010, 14:15
What the fuck is wrong with normal yoghurt anyway? :angry:
If I needed to be reminded I was a man, I'd take my bikini off and look down.

jim.cox
30th November 2010, 14:17
(I'll just slip out for my MANicure, facial massage and have a latte' while I'm at it.....)

There's a place opposite my office that'll do that for ya Scummy

"Manscape - Taking The Ape out of Modern man"

Funny, but I dont see many men walking through its doors - in fact I wonder how it stays open in this high rent area - must be the Pink market I guess

Banditbandit
30th November 2010, 14:19
Interesting argument .. this one happens to be smack in the middle of my expertise ...

Short answer ? The ads work because people buy the products or the message - if they didn't work advertisers would not use these techniques ...

Do men feel more manly owning these products ? or are masculine men attracted to these products because they appeal to their masculinity ? Both positions are defendable, and supported by media research ...

But hey .. remember this ? Mick and Keith didn't buy this shit back then ...

When I'm watchin' my TV
and that man comes on to tell me
how white my shirts can be.
Well he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke
the same cigarrettes as me.
I can't get no, oh no no no.
Hey hey hey, that's what I say.

I can't get no satisfaction

jim.cox
30th November 2010, 14:21
Do men feel more manly owning these products ?


Only the Girly Blouses...



or are masculine men attracted to these products because they appeal to their masculinity ?


No - we retch in disgust and turn off

Spazman727
30th November 2010, 14:31
But hey .. remember this ? Mick and Keith didn't buy this shit back then ...

When I'm watchin' my TV
and that man comes on to tell me
how white my shirts can be.
Well he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke
the same cigarrettes as me.
I can't get no, oh no no no.
Hey hey hey, that's what I say.

I can't get no satisfaction

They are REAL men who don't need the media to tell them what to do. I mean shit, Keith is the Antichrist of anti drug lobbyists. Not many people could fall out of a coconut tree and be none the worse for it.

SMOKEU
30th November 2010, 14:56
I think they're just supposed to be funny, except the Mantrol one of course.


I thought that was meant to be a comedy.

jim.cox
30th November 2010, 14:57
I thought that was meant to be a comedy.

Nah - its just Lame

The Everlasting
30th November 2010, 15:37
Yeah all those man food/mantrol type ads are a load of crap. :laugh:

The fonterra ones are especially pathetic.......

kiwifruit
30th November 2010, 15:48
I like them

White trash
30th November 2010, 15:55
I like them

And boys. <tenchars/>

ducatilover
30th November 2010, 15:59
And boys. <tenchars/>

Does he have a Honda?

pete376403
30th November 2010, 18:38
Lots of ads make the man (in the ad) to be a bit stupid, needing guidance, bit of a loser, etc . And that seems to be fine.

God help any advertiser who dared portray women in the same way.

DMNTD
30th November 2010, 18:50
Does he have a Honda?

Would you like him to? :blip:

Laava
30th November 2010, 18:55
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scissorhands
30th November 2010, 20:26
Dont watch anything on the tube, nothing!!!! Unless you are reading between the lines constantly

Its like dancing with the devil, soon as you look away, it will knee you in the balls.

They want to manipulate you, dumb you down and weaken your gene code and destroy your family jewels.

The national sperm count is dropping like a rock, bikers are getting moobs, autism is skyrocketting, girls tits are getting bigger with all the feminisation our foods and lifestyles produce.

Dont ever trust the telly, it is a conditioning vehicle.:devil2:

You may as well let them give you an anal probe

ducatilover
30th November 2010, 21:02
Would you like him to? :blip:

:love: Yesssssss

Grasshopperus
30th November 2010, 23:01
The national sperm count is dropping like a rock

Are you running low? Do you want me to send you some of mine? The letter won't be sealed with saliva.

But yeah, pretty much agree with everything you wrote.

Gremlin
1st December 2010, 02:00
I think the ranfurly man park is quite funny, but its true, I'm easily amused. Plus the chicks are cute.

I still have no idea what any of them are advertising. :scratch:

DMNTD
1st December 2010, 04:03
I still have no idea what any of them are advertising. :scratch:

Don't worry your pretty lil' head about it, they're for 'men'

mashman
1st December 2010, 09:40
When I first arrived on these fair shores, I found one of my work colleagues reading books on how to become a man. To be fair he did say they were helping, but I honestly couldn't wrap my head around why you'd go hunting through books to find out what it takes to be a man. Now the guy didn't seem insecure, but he was always clean shaven and smelled like a dream boat... I had to wonder if he was preparing himself for his days using steps from a book :blink:... I still don't really understand what he was looking for.

The Mantrol ads crack me up, pretty much in the same vein as the Woody ads...

Usarka
1st December 2010, 10:04
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IdunBrokdItAgin
1st December 2010, 10:21
Its like dancing with the devil, soon as you look away, it will knee you in the balls.



I cracked up reading that - great saying.

You should be in advertising :yes:

Number One
1st December 2010, 11:46
The 'mantrol' ones are laughable and frankly I don't think they make sense...but then perhaps that's cos I'm not a 'real man'?

I enjoy the quarter pounder one - "you'll look more manly with a quarter pounder in your hands"...and then all the various scenarios...hyuck hyuck hyuck

The beer one cracks me up too when they talk about how men have been under threat caused by things such as 'vampire based tv series'...lol

I do think the 'we can grow beards if we want to' was funny the first couple of times but now is a bit ghey.

That's marketing for ya though...it works for some and not others but being good can be measured by whether it makes people talk...I guess they have succeeded eh

nudemetalz
1st December 2010, 12:04
blah blah blah...... girls tits are getting bigger with all the feminisation our foods and lifestyles produce..................




This is a bad thing???? :innocent:

Number One
1st December 2010, 12:11
This is a bad thing???? :innocent:

Notice he said GIRLS nudey.....

Womens tits bigger - great! GIRLS...not so much

nudemetalz
1st December 2010, 12:15
Notice he said GIRLS nudey.....

Womens tits bigger - great! GIRLS...not so much

ohhh...oops..:facepalm:

mashman
1st December 2010, 12:52
The national sperm count is dropping like a rock, bikers are getting moobs, autism is skyrocketting, girls tits are getting bigger with all the feminisation our foods and lifestyles produce.


http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rmi/lowres/rmin458l.jpg

SpankMe
1st December 2010, 14:46
Here's a manly ad.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4b4_1291055829

admenk
1st December 2010, 14:46
When I first arrived on these fair shores, I found one of my work colleagues reading books on how to become a man. ...

Did it work ?

Banditbandit
1st December 2010, 14:50
When I first arrived on these fair shores, I found one of my work colleagues reading books on how to become a man. To be fair he did say they were helping, but I honestly couldn't wrap my head around why you'd go hunting through books to find out what it takes to be a man. Now the guy didn't seem insecure, but he was always clean shaven and smelled like a dream boat... I had to wonder if he was preparing himself for his days using steps from a book :blink:... I still don't really understand what he was looking for.

The Mantrol ads crack me up, pretty much in the same vein as the Woody ads...

I'll bet the book was written by a woman and he was trying to pick up one ..

Banditbandit
1st December 2010, 14:51
The 'mantrol' ones are laughable and frankly I don't think they make sense...but then perhaps that's cos I'm not a 'real man'?

I enjoy the quarter pounder one - "you'll look more manly with a quarter pounder in your hands"...and then all the various scenarios...hyuck hyuck hyuck

The beer one cracks me up too when they talk about how men have been under threat caused by things such as 'vampire based tv series'...lol

I do think the 'we can grow beards if we want to' was funny the first couple of times but now is a bit ghey.

That's marketing for ya though...it works for some and not others but being good can be measured by whether it makes people talk...I guess they have succeeded eh

You know the words !!! You have the sound on !!! I known the ads you mean ..I've never heard them ...

mashman
1st December 2010, 16:35
Did it work ?

:rofl:, I don't know.



I'll bet the book was written by a woman and he was trying to pick up one ..


Heh, he had no problem with women. He was young, very early 20's, smart as fuck, a recentish Uni graduate.

I'm not sure what he was looking for, in fact i'm not sure he knew what he was looking for either... hope he found it anyways :yes: must been a pain in the ass trying to find what you want, without actually knowing what you're looking for. Maybe he did know, dunno, never really spoke to him at great lengths about it. Partially from taking the piss like, but I didn't really feel it my place to pry.

scissorhands
1st December 2010, 22:51
Beer and meat is good for kiwi men. We usually just have too much