Biker taken out

[xr-rider]

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/8447086/motorcyclist-flown-to-hospital/2/
poor guy

[PrincessBandit]

Impossible to say what happened based on that short news clip.

No jumping to conclusions eh. Even posts added underneath, just like media reports, aren't necessarily gospel.

[xr-rider]

Impossible to say what happened based on that short news clip.

No jumping to conclusions eh. Even posts added underneath, just like media reports, aren't necessarily gospel.

i know the car, i know who owns it. the person that caused it was trying to drift

[Edbear]

i know the car, i know who owns it. the person that caused it was trying to drift

Don't worry, Katman will be along shortly to say how it could have been avoided and the biker has to accept responsibility... :innocent:

On the news this morning overseas an unlicensed young driver with his father in the passenger seat lost control overtaking a group of cyclists and killed 8 of them!

[zden009]

Don't worry, Katman will be along shortly to say how it could have been avoided and the biker has to accept responsibility... :innocent:

On the news this morning overseas an unlicensed young driver with his father in the passenger seat lost control overtaking a group of cyclists and killed 8 of them!

Where is this news? Can not find it.

[Bald Eagle]

Where is this news? Can not find it.

Eight die as car ploughs into cyclists (http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/4426271/Eight-die-as-car-ploughs-into-cyclists)

[Edbear]

Eight die as car ploughs into cyclists (http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/4426271/Eight-die-as-car-ploughs-into-cyclists)

That's the one!

[baptist]

i know the car, i know who owns it. the person that caused it was trying to drift

It would appear the rider was stationary and the car swiped him. Poor guy hope he pulls through. As for the driver, I wonder if he is "known" to the Police as well:angry:.

If you are right this scum bag needs to serve time...

[baptist]

Don't worry, Katman will be along shortly to say how it could have been avoided and the biker has to accept responsibility... :innocent:

On the news this morning overseas an unlicensed young driver with his father in the passenger seat lost control overtaking a group of cyclists and killed 8 of them!

Now now play nicely:msn-wink:

And the guy in Italy has been arrested for multiple homicides:woohoo: they obviously have a better idea of how to deal with crazy reckless vehicle use:yes:.

[Paul in NZ]

It would appear the rider was stationary and the car swiped him. Poor guy hope he pulls through. As for the driver, I wonder if he is "known" to the Police as well:angry:.

If you are right this scum bag needs to serve time...


Bloody Hell...

I dont go down that way too often from Raumati but its hard to imagine how that could happen without someone doing something really stupid? Do you know where?

If hes a local is there anything we can do to help out? He (assuming its a he) must have family etc - they need anything?

[baptist]

Bloody Hell...

I dont go down that way too often from Raumati but its hard to imagine how that could happen without someone doing something really stupid? Do you know where?

If hes a local is there anything we can do to help out? He (assuming its a he) must have family etc - they need anything?

I say "appear" as that is what some of those who saw it happen are saying in the comments and replies under the article including a cop.

If anyone knows him I am sure they will post if the family needs anything, hope so anyway, aye.

Our prayers are with them all.

[Gone Burger]

This may well be someone we all know... It's always too close to home with any rider, but even more so when you might know them.

Come on buddy (that can apply to both female and male :)) - pull through and rest up well with a speedy recovery.

Wonder if they had spent they day enjoying themselves on the Toy run with us all?

[xr-rider]

It would appear the rider was stationary and the car swiped him. Poor guy hope he pulls through. As for the driver, I wonder if he is "known" to the Police as well:angry:.

If you are right this scum bag needs to serve time...

the owner and the car is known to the police. the plates dont belong on the car that caused it. its an unsafe car that shouldnt be near the road

[Bald Eagle]

the owner and the car is known to the police but the person driving it at the time isnt i dont think. the plates dont belong on the car that caused it and apparently its stolen. been pink/green stickered multiple times in the last couple of weeks


Rule .303 time then - what sort of car is it so we can do a search and destroy, on both car, owner and driver.

[baptist]

the owner and the car is known to the police but the person driving it at the time isnt i dont think. the plates dont belong on the car that caused it and apparently its stolen. been pink/green stickered multiple times in the last couple of weeks

:mad::mad: mate, I am speechless... the bastards.

[xr-rider]

I say "appear" as that is what some of those who saw it happen are saying in the comments and replies under the article including a cop.

If anyone knows him I am sure they will post if the family needs anything, hope so anyway, aye.

Our prayers are with them all.

i know a family friend of him. i wont give to much info at the moment. but the family sound like they are coping with the change

[Paul in NZ]

sweet as, let us know if we can help.

Spoke to a young fella I know who is up with things. Bloody crazy bastards...

[Slifer]

I kind of know the guy on the bike , he did a brief inspection of my gixxer when i bought it. It really saddens me because his life is ruined, unable to do his job now because of injuries, he was also getting married in feb. My mums friend was behind him when it happened and tended to him untill the medics got there.

Now what really pissed me off was that the driver a young woman supposedly did not even come over to see if he was alright and out of the six youths in the car only ONE came over.

I really do hope the cops fuck the driver over HARD, and ruin their life just as she ruined his.

[Quasi]

I kind of know the guy on the bike , he did a brief inspection of my gixxer when i bought it. It really saddens me because his life is ruined, unable to do his job now because of injuries, he was also getting married in feb. My mums friend was behind him when it happened and tended to him untill the medics got there.

Now what really pissed me off was that the driver a young woman supposedly did not even come over to see if he was alright and out of the six youths in the car only ONE came over.

I really do hope the cops fuck the driver over HARD, and ruin their life just as she ruined his.

I agree - she deserves to have the book thrown HARD at her. Blair was the totally innocent party in this incident. Didnt deserve the horrendous injuries he has suffered which will totally change his life.

[Paul in NZ]

Yeah its a bad one all right. Not much coverage on it either. I mean its as bad as that thing in chch when that kid got killed by the boy racer... worse in some ways...

[Quasi]

Yeah its a bad one all right. Not much coverage on it either. I mean its as bad as that thing in chch when that kid got killed by the boy racer... worse in some ways...

If theres anything us local riders can do to help him out, maybe nows a good time to start thinking

[cold comfort]

Eight die as car ploughs into cyclists (http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/4426271/Eight-die-as-car-ploughs-into-cyclists)

Sadly an all to common theme way too prevalent here- recidivist drunk/disqualified drivers who continue to be over represented in the fatal crashes. They deserve to be taken off the road or taken out.

[PrincessBandit]

i know the car, i know who owns it. the person that caused it was trying to drift


It would appear the rider was stationary and the car swiped him.


...........................

Now what really pissed me off was that the driver a young woman supposedly did not even come over to see if he was alright and out of the six youths in the car only ONE came over.



Now if all of these are cold hard facts, then I agree entirely with the sentiments being expressed at the driver.

[Hans]

I would like to ask everyone taking part in the speculations on this thread to back off a little bit. I won't contribute to the rumour mill, but not all seems to be as is presented here. Suffice to say that a car that hits a motorcyclist as the result of being hit by another car may not always be at fault.

[Hans]

Now if all of these are cold hard facts, then I agree entirely with the sentiments being expressed at the driver.

These are not facts. These are chinese whispers.

[Lurch]

These threads are so predictable. I think we should just start them in advance. Think about it if everyone right now makes their own biker down thread about themselves then they can control the way it goes down and then all of the people who jump all over these threads can be told to gtfo because it's your thread, and you were there man, you were there.

[Phreak]

As Hans said, I think it'd be best to wait until the full story emerges, before blaming anyone. Rather that, than persecute someone that may or may not have done any wrong...

My thoughts are with the rider. Be strong mate, and pull through.

[MSTRS]

Seems to me that regardless of what happened, we're seeing a theme here...

Car and owner 'well known to police'
Car and group associated with it's owner 'known to locals'
Car 'pink stickered multiple times'
Car 'has plates that don't belong to it'
Motorcyclist totally innocent - wrong place/wrong time.

[Hans]

A little bird told me these shits are associates of the asshole who killed himself on the stolen Kawa in Palmy. The same bird also tweeted about them being in for a world of hurt, cause they involved a kid of a local Bad Man in the crash. Good luck to them.

[sinfull]

A little bird told me these shits are associates of the asshole who killed himself on the stolen Kawa in Palmy. The same bird also tweeted about them being in for a world of hurt, cause they involved a kid of a local Bad Man in the crash. Good luck to them.

Now who's speculating Hans

[Hans]

Now who's speculating Hans

Good point. The difference is that I went and got the info from a very good source. Someone who is so close to it that they simply must know what happened. When I argued against people speculating I already knew the technical details (which car hit which and which car hit the bike) Then I found out who was driving and who was a passenger in the car that caused this. No speculation here. Facts from someone who saw it happen(a colleague) and from someone, who's role I won't elaborate on.

[carver]

i like drifting

[onearmedbandit]

i like drifting

You should change your username to something more appropriate. In fact it would only require changing the position of two letters, namely 'a' and 'r'.

[MSTRS]

You should change your username to something more appropriate. In fact it would only require changing the position of two letters, namely 'a' and 'r'.

But then it would read wanker. That's not...hang on...as you were...

[White trash]

You should change your username to something more appropriate. In fact it would only require changing the position of two letters, namely 'a' and 'r'.

Chuck an "attention" or a "cock" preceding your sugestion and you'd be on the money I reckon OAB.

[miloking]

i like drifting

drifting is for weaboo faggots...wanna be fast around race track in a cage? Learn to drive properly...

[\m/]

Going around turn 1 at Pukekohe at 180kmh sideways doesn't require any skill.

[Duke girl]

The latest update l have heard about the rider involved was that the Drs had to amputate 1 of his legs and the other 1 has multiple fractures and is in a very bad way so not the best news for someone who was the innocent party out of it all.

[The Baron]

Thanks for the update Duke Girl. Sad to hear this.

Hang in there rider.

[carver]

You should change your username to something more appropriate. In fact it would only require changing the position of two letters, namely 'a' and 'r'.

and i would need a W


But then it would read wanker. That's not...hang on...as you were...

I am proud to be a wanker!


drifting is for weaboo faggots...wanna be fast around race track in a cage? Learn to drive properly...

Drifting on the road is cooler

[Gone Burger]

So far the news is not good at all. Will wait to see an official update, but thanks for the info.

We are all thinking of you rider. Thoughts are with you and your family.

[sooty]

He is a great mate of mine. The silly bitch who took him out was trying to show off. Apparently the car was pink stickered, illegally lowered, and had mix matched tyres. He was heading to PPM when hit directly in the right leg. He now has two smashed wrists, 2 broken arms, smashed ankle, lower and upper leg, knee cap and right leg amputated above the knee. His career is over and for what, minding his own business. He is in as good spirits as you could be with these horrific injuries. She has shown no remorse for what she has done and seems not to give a shit. When will the courts give these idiots a decent jail term instead of a slap with a wet bus ticket. Pardon my french but it "FUCKS ME OFF" that this sort of thing happens to the bloody good guys!!

[sooty]

Good point. The difference is that I went and got the info from a very good source. Someone who is so close to it that they simply must know what happened. When I argued against people speculating I already knew the technical details (which car hit which and which car hit the bike) Then I found out who was driving and who was a passenger in the car that caused this. No speculation here. Facts from someone who saw it happen(a colleague) and from someone, who's role I won't elaborate on.

I have just finished visiting blair in hospital.
THE FACTS: He was riding home. She was driving to fast showing off. The car was not up to standard. She drifted accross the road hitting the back of a car going the other way. She then spun hitting blair head on into his leg. Stupid bitch should not of been on the road. END OF STORY!

[Reckless]

I have just finished visiting blair in hospital.
THE FACTS: He was riding home. She was driving to fast showing off. The car was not up to standard. She drifted accross the road hitting the back of a car going the other way. She then spun hitting blair head on into his leg. Stupid bitch should not of been on the road. END OF STORY!

Could have been any one of us "god forbid" I have good mates down there none are called Blair thank goodness!

Fuck me thats rough! Tell him we are all thinking of him Sooty!

[baptist]

I have just finished visiting blair in hospital.
THE FACTS: He was riding home. She was driving to fast showing off. The car was not up to standard. She drifted accross the road hitting the back of a car going the other way. She then spun hitting blair head on into his leg. Stupid bitch should not of been on the road. END OF STORY!

Glad to hear he is in good spirits, our prayers are with him and his family.

What next I wonder? I fear your friend has a lot of pain and hard work ahead of him through rehab and the rest of his life. And what of the girl who caused all this? no remorse well ok then chuck her in jail and not for a few weeks but years, scum bags like that need to be made an example of.

[LBD]

And what of the girl who caused all this? no remorse well ok then chuck her in jail and not for a few weeks but years, scum bags like that need to be made an example of.
And the car owner.....

[Paul in NZ]

I'm afraid this is another 'known to the Police' job.

frankly this makes me very angry. So un necessary and a decent useful member of society taken out by an unrepentant moron...

[MSTRS]

Such a tragedy for the rider. I feel sadness and anger in equal measure. May his good attitude see him through to as full a recovery as possible.

And may the driver's attitude pay her back in full...

[miloking]

He is a great mate of mine. The silly bitch who took him out was trying to show off. Apparently the car was pink stickered, illegally lowered, and had mix matched tyres. He was heading to PPM when hit directly in the right leg. He now has two smashed wrists, 2 broken arms, smashed ankle, lower and upper leg, knee cap and right leg amputated above the knee. His career is over and for what, minding his own business. He is in as good spirits as you could be with these horrific injuries. She has shown no remorse for what she has done and seems not to give a shit. When will the courts give these idiots a decent jail term instead of a slap with a wet bus ticket. Pardon my french but it "FUCKS ME OFF" that this sort of thing happens to the bloody good guys!!

Tell me where she lives, i wil happily pay for few dudes to go over for visit with some pliers and blow torch! And...no iam not even kidding...

[caseye]

For a moment imagine her horror, when 100 or more BIKES/BIKERS ride slowly past where she and her family live.Nothing more, just a real slow trundle past there.Once a week for a few months.Reckon she'd go insane, actually I hope she would.
Course it'd be too good to be true if some of her scumbag(known to police) rellies tried to stop the riders.
It can be done.
R U up for it down there???

[Bald Eagle]

For a moment imagine her horror, when 100 or more BIKES/BIKERS ride slowly past where she and her family live.Nothing more, just a real slow trundle past there.Once a week for a few months.Reckon she'd go insane, actually I hope she would.
Course it'd be too good to be true if some of her scumbag(known to police) rellies tried to stop the riders.
It can be done.
R U up for it down there???

Can't add rep , PM for organisation suggestions re this.

[Katman]

Can't add rep , PM for organisation suggestions re this.

Surely you're not serious?

:facepalm:

[jasonu]

Surely you're not serious?

:facepalm:

I'd like to see it happen and would join in if I could.

[Paul in NZ]

For a moment imagine her horror, when 100 or more BIKES/BIKERS ride slowly past where she and her family live.Nothing more, just a real slow trundle past there.Once a week for a few months.Reckon she'd go insane, actually I hope she would.
Course it'd be too good to be true if some of her scumbag(known to police) rellies tried to stop the riders.
It can be done.
R U up for it down there???

Nice fantasy and I'm sure one born out of fustration rather than dark desire but it will fold like a wet sack so how about doing something positive?

Does anyone know the victim well? (I believe one poster does) So in that case is there anything the family needs please? Even if its just a visit in hospital? Are there kids? Can I take them out fishing or something to give mum a break? Are they OK for cash?

[Maha]

Surely you're not serious?

:facepalm:

While I wont and cant speak for the Bronz Welly chap, what I can say is that caseyes view is a personal one and does not represent the views of MAG-NZ.

[Katman]

I'd like to see it happen and would join in if I could.

Let me guess - you always wanted to be a gang member but mummy wouldn't allow it?

[Paul in NZ]

Let me guess - you always wanted to be a gang member but mummy wouldn't allow it?

Settle down you lot - It is possible to overstate your position... How about some positive affirmative action...

[Katman]

The reality is Paul that shit things sometimes happen to people who don't deserve it.

And sometimes the perpetrators of those shit things deserve further admonition than the courts provide.

If someone feels strongly enough that this here is such a case than you won't see me shedding any tears if they decide to follow up on it.

Just don't use Motorcycling as a platform for thuggery.

[caseye]

here in KB land I am me, my signature carries the MAG-NZ logo, it could also carry the BRONZ logo.
I never mentioned anything about being a gang, but now that it's been mentioned.
From years of experience I can tell you that what the low lifes of our society definitely do understand is, a bigger stronger enemy then they are.
In my defence ( not that I think I need too, stop it Katman! I did say "imagine "
Nothing else has worked and apart from the obvious for us out here as Paul in NZ has said we can concentrate on the positive and doing something actual and meaningful for the motorcyclist who has been injured here.
So slander away you guys, seems we've got a full house going here, it was a suggestion as to how to deal with one particular person who it seems has done a severe injustice to one of our own.
Be squeamish if you like even put your tongue in your cheek and poke the borax, but believe this, if it was up to me, after the "facts' had been established and as usual the wet bus ticket had been appllied and we'd done our bit for our fellow biker. I'd get the slow rides going for someone who shows no remorse and hides behind their family and "their" connections.
These are my own personal thoughts on this matter and my association with any organisation is simply a matter of coincidence.

[Bald Eagle]

I won't quote caseye in full but he clearly states my position, this is a personal opinion not an organisational one.

It is a measure of the frustration with effective sanctions from the system that leads to a desire for some affirmative action to name and shame.

[jasonu]

Let me guess - you always wanted to be a gang member but mummy wouldn't allow it?

Why did you say that?
If it was you or your brother or father or mate or wife etc that this happened to, I bet you would have a slightly different attitude.

[sooty]

Hi Guys
I beleive some people maybe getting a bit carried away with feelings and emotions.
Blair is a very forgiving person, though maybe not so much in this case. He has spoken to the girls step father (apparent ex gang member), who is appalled at the actions of his step daughter. Drive bys would not acheive a great deal, but make bike riders look bad. If people are interested in helping, I will be organising a fundraiser to assist his better half being off work to assist Blair when he comes home from hospital. Details will follow. He is still in good spirits, will keep posted.:yes:

[baptist]

Hi Guys
I beleive some people maybe getting a bit carried away with feelings and emotions.
Blair is a very forgiving person, though maybe not so much in this case. He has spoken to the girls step father (apparent ex gang member), who is appalled at the actions of his step daughter. Drive bys would not acheive a great deal, but make bike riders look bad. If people are interested in helping, I will be organising a fundraiser to assist his better half being off work to assist Blair when he comes home from hospital. Details will follow. He is still in good spirits, will keep posted.:yes:

Good call mate.

[Bald Eagle]

Hi Guys
I beleive some people maybe getting a bit carried away with feelings and emotions.
Blair is a very forgiving person, though maybe not so much in this case. He has spoken to the girls step father (apparent ex gang member), who is appalled at the actions of his step daughter. Drive bys would not acheive a great deal, but make bike riders look bad. If people are interested in helping, I will be organising a fundraiser to assist his better half being off work to assist Blair when he comes home from hospital. Details will follow. He is still in good spirits, will keep posted.:yes:

Good call let us know where and when and will be in to offer what help I can

[Paul in NZ]

Please let me know what i can do. We can offer goods for raffles, help with bbq or most anything else. Most of all, well done for being a friend to Blair and family.

[willytheekid]

Best Wishes to Blair, his family and friends....truly hope hes ok, physically & mentally...not the way to spend xmas :no:

As for the "driveby" idea....I personally think its a GREAT idea....just the wrong location!
....imagine how happy it would make blair....to hear dozens...no HUNDREDS!! of fellow bikers respectfully cruse past his side of the hospital to show how much we care & are thinking of him and his family at this difficult time.

(-But even this idea has its draw backs....hospitals are for recovery!....not hangin out a window waving furiously at fellow bikers....and the noise lol)

...My familys thoughts and best wishes to Blair :love:

[jasonu]

Best Wishes to Blair, his family and friends....truly hope hes ok, physically & mentally...not the way to spend xmas :no:

As for the "driveby" idea....I personally think its a GREAT idea....just the wrong location!
....imagine how happy it would make blair....to hear dozens...no HUNDREDS!! of fellow bikers respectfully cruse past his side of the hospital to show how much we care & are thinking of him and his family at this difficult time.

(-But even this idea has its draw backs....hospitals are for recovery!....not hangin out a window waving furiously at fellow bikers....and the noise lol)

...My familys thoughts and best wishes to Blair :love:

I like that idea! Do it past his house when he gets home.

[XxKiTtiExX]

Just don't use Motorcycling as a platform for thuggery.

For once I agree

[carver]

For once I agree

thought you was outa here?

[Paul in NZ]

Great picture and article on Blair and this accident in the Dec22nd Kapiti News

Hes a lot more charitable (and tougher) than I would be I suspect... He has my respect and seems like a very good man. :yes:

Please make sure you let Vicki and I know if we can do anything to help!

[Reckless]

Great picture and article on Blair and this accident in the Dec22nd Kapiti News!

Couldn't find t on their website got a link?? cheers!

[Paul in NZ]

Couldn't find t on their website got a link?? cheers!

I dont think the community paper has a website?

I can scan it I guess?

[blackdog]

I dont think the community paper has a website?

I can scan it I guess?

yes please

[sooty]

Hi All

Here is the link for the Kapiti news

http://issuu.com/the.star/docs/210356kn?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Fsoftlight %2Flayout.xml&backgroundColor=dddddd&showFlipBtn=true&proShowSidebar=false&logo=http://starnews.co.nz/images/MagicBox4.gif&logoOffsetX=0&logoOffsetY=0

Correction, not a link, just highlight, copy to address bar, hit enter.

Blair had surgery today to take bone from the hip and put it into his wrist to give them something to attach the plate and screws to. Will visit tomorrow and give update.

*Paul, thanks for the message, But system would not let me reply to you as I have not used this forum enough yet. Both Blair and his better half have no children or immediate family in Wellington so she spends all free time at the hospital. Christmas day will be likewise. I have passed onto blair everyones support from this forum and he is amazed with the generosity of strangers ( although bike riders seem to end up one big family). Many thanks to all

[Reckless]

Hi All

Here is the link for the Kapiti news

http://issuu.com/the.star/docs/210356kn?mode=embed&layout=http%3A%2F%2Fskin.issuu.com%2Fv%2Fsoftlight %2Flayout.xml&backgroundColor=dddddd&showFlipBtn=true&proShowSidebar=false&logo=http://starnews.co.nz/images/MagicBox4.gif&logoOffsetX=0&logoOffsetY=0


Far out sooty reading that article I think will put chills up all the bikers spines on here!

That man has a great attitude! I really hope everything goes well for him!

[willytheekid]

Thanks for posting the article :yes:

I grew up in paraparaumu and know the road well, reading the article was spine chilling.
If anyone is in the area or visiting Blair & Allana, please send my familys love and best wishes :love:
Not the way to spend x-mas at all....but what a guy! thats one HELL of a accident! The photo of him sitting up in bed and smiling speaks volumes in regards to his strength and Resilience.
Merry X-mas Blair & Allana, I truly hope you get better soon.

[Paul in NZ]

I grew up in paraparaumu .

pffft - NO ONE 'grows up' here.... Its just one of the great things about the place...

but yes - the article is inspirational and chilling...