Over 6min of 200kph+ lane splitting

[SpankMe]

<img src="/forums/images/smilies/surprise.gif" align="top"> Extreme hooning from Paris (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/images/lane-split.divx) <img src="/forums/images/smilies/surprise.gif" align="top">

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[riffer]

I kept waiting ... and waiting ... all the way through that movie...

and the crazy frenchman never even looked like crashing

even going 250 km/h round a corner lane splitting!

... that's just bloody terrifying!

Cheers SpankMe - that made my lunchtime :2thumbsup

[Coldkiwi]

haven't seen it yet but i always thought the frogs were crazy.. some are obviously a little more psycho than others

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[jrandom]

He made it look very smooth, didn't he?

I think the key is not so much having godlike riding skills, the gaps weren't all *that* small. It'd have a lot more to do with the size of one's balls and willingness to accept almost certain death if there *was* a problem (given the lack of decent runoff area on most of that road!) Put most participants on this forum on a GSXR1000 and they'd probably be able to emulate that video (if they chose to).

Of course I should stress that I utterly condemn such a reckless display of irresponsible behaviour :2thumbsup

[Car Dodger]

I think this mad frenchmen is trying to play a little speedo trick on us, I really dont think he's going as fast as he would like us to believe. I mean, at 240K those other cars on the road should be not more than a blur, unless the footage had been slowed down a little. It realy doesnt look to me that he is going twice the speed of those cars.

But it was fun to watch, have you got anymore?????:eek:

[bluninja]

Sounds like the footage of the guy lapping the periphrique (motorway ringroad) around Paris, but I haven't got the patience to download and have a look. The guy died a while back in an accident, rumour has it.

TTFN

[Motoracer]

Check out "Ghost Rider". He is one crazy cunt even if the stunts are staged. Thats what they say anyway.

http://www.ghostridermovie.net/

[James Deuce]

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I read in a recent AMCN that the dude that did this film is actually dead.

Not surprising really.

JIm2

[jrandom]

Originally posted by Car Dodger
I think this mad frenchmen is trying to play a little speedo trick on us, I really dont think he's going as fast as he would like us to believe. I mean, at 240K those other cars on the road should be not more than a blur, unless the footage had been slowed down a little. It realy doesnt look to me that he is going twice the speed of those cars.

I dunno, have you ever done 240kmh on the road? I haven't on a bike (yet... ahem...) but I have in a car, and that video looked about right for the speed. The French chap in the next-door cubicle at work here reckons that the Peripherique (or whatever it's called) has an 80kph limit - it's not actually a motorway, technically it's just a main road. Ouch.

And think about what a power or streetlamp pole looks like as you ride past it at a speed differential of 140kph - it's certainly not a 'blur', it just sort of whooshes by like those cars in the vid.

[Jackrat]

Yep if he,s the same french dude I read about he,s dead alright.
Maybe he ran over a limpit mine<_<

[Car Dodger]

I've never dun 240k on bike, the best I can is 180k before I need to go piss.
However I have seen lots of footage of other bikers trying to kill themselves at those speeds and you can defenitly see the difference between 160k and 250k.

But, Im not saying I'm right, I have been wrong many times before. many, many, many times.

However I didn't know it was'nt a motorway!!!! Fuck that!!!

I'll be lucky if I can squeeze 150k out of my old girl. (but I try) :rolleyes:

[matthewt]

Hey, if he is alive maybe we should get him over here to try and do the kopu to whanga turn off in 8 minutes ??

:D :D :D

[Motoracer]

I'd say that he'd lack the skills required for the twisties (if he doesn't do the twisties as well). Its not all balls like going fast on a straight road around cars.

[bluninja]

Well I've done the Arc de Triumph roundabout on a bicycle, and that felt as dangerous:o

I've done 170 mph on a bike and it didn't seem particularly fast unless I looked down at the tarmac just in front of me; but that was on a track. I wouldn't do those speeds on the road.

TTFN

[wkid_one]

I've done 300+ on the bike (with Mangell in hot pursuit), the speed looked about right too me (yes yes all you pc people go 'boo hiss as it is stupid).&nbsp; What a legend......makes me want to ride again.&nbsp; Now if only someone will insure me.......

[James Deuce]

Best I've done is 265 indicated on me ol' RC30. Probably really about 245, but when I let off 200 felt slooooww and I sat up. F__k me!!!!! Just hung on with my finger tips.

[SPman]

1997 I think, ZX9R.The speed was right (250k +), he set a record and was killed trying to do it again some months later!

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[scumdog]

Wked-one, your 300kph run must have been the N.Z. record setting and is your name John Hepburn?
He set the record with a 307.51km - that is the OFFICIAL record anyway.

[SpankMe]

"Pascal AKA "Le Prince Noir" (The Black Prince) does a lap of the Paris ringroad, The France loop "La Peripherique" at speeds in excess of 250 km/h (over 155 mph) on a GSXR-750. The video starts at the five minute point of his eleven or so minute lap.

He died trying to beat his record. There is footage at the end of the clip where there are lots of bikes riding in the dark. They did a lap of the ring road for his send off."

[matthewt]

wkid is dreaming again ;) Besides Mangell wouldn't chase that surely not with his current demerit points :D

300 on the speedo would probably be 270 actual speed. At the sprints a couple of weeks ago my speedo showed 270 at the first light and 285 at the last light, my actual average speed was 248. Because I changed the gearing on the MV my speedo is out by 17% roughly, the average for a stock bike is 6% - 8% at least.

A 2002 R1 at last years sprints never got above 270 thru the lights. This year a gsxr1000 hit 294 !! That bike with a bit of work could probably break John Hepburns record.

[k14]

Yeah, watch ghostrider. He is insane.

Doing up to 300 indicated on his speedo, down some motorway in holland i think. Then lures the cops into a chase and looses them, doing wheelies 60% of the time.

Highly recommended. I nearly needed to change my undies it was so scary :rockon:

[matthewt]

Originally posted by bluninja
Well I've done the Arc de Triumph roundabout on a bicycle, and that felt as dangerous:o

Dont remind me!! I had to do nearly a full circle of the Arc de Triumph in a car with my wife driving. F**K me that was madness. We survived it somehow

[MacD]

I just stood on the footpath and watched the cars go around it, that was scary enough!

[wkid_one]

Matt - the guy on the GSXR Tony - hit 300 at the end of his run - you are talking about a measured trap speed - not a terminal velocity.

Remember - you are talking about an AVERAGE speed over a 1km track - not a one off speed!&nbsp; The NZ Land Speed Record is not set as an instantaneous speed - it is over a measured course travelled in BOTH directions.

Yes I have done 300kph+.&nbsp;My speedo was reading 299 (the max it reads) and was sitting there for a while before I slowed down.&nbsp; I am, though, talking terminal velocity - not average speed.

I have been speed trapped by the police at Manfield and the speedo was not that far out - speedo read 269, laser read 264 - so the difference is not as large as you indicate.

Believe what you want - I KNOW what my speedo said

Mangell was there to attest

[750Y]

i saw 888 on my digital speedo. no time slip tho sorry.

[Jackrat]

Can ya,hire this Ghost rider.???
Did 220 on a GSX1100 once,Don,t think I will bother again,no fairing,Tunnel vision,Bike woulda gone faster but I ran out of keen.:o :gob:

[GPz]

All ZX12s do 340 the second you turn the key on!!!!

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[andy1]

done 400kph on my 250 being towed by a busa:beer:

[wkid_one]

I don't know how the SBK riders cope - I must have had a focal point about the size of a 50c piece at probably 2km ahead, hardly enuf time to react to anything.

At the last sprints (not the ones just been), Tony hit 300kph by the end of the speed trap (I have the video) - and it was wet and bloody windy - the guy is a nutter.&nbsp; But because it was wet he couldn't hammer it on the bend before the straight.&nbsp; He did do a nice 300m rolling burnout to warm the tyre up tho.

Matt - what you have to remember - is the 294 he recorded is an average speed over the 400m - whereby he is still accelerating through the trap and beyond given the run up is limited and has a bend.&nbsp; Try it on the back straight of Puke - 300kph is easy on a GSXR apparently - ask Kiwidan

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[wkid_one]

Apparently - the Ducs speedo will only go as far as 220 - then all that will come up is Ducati??&nbsp; Don't know if this is true of all or any of the models?

[matthewt]

Originally posted by wkid_one
Matt - what you have to remember - is the 294 he recorded is an average speed over the 400m - whereby he is still accelerating through the trap and beyond given the run up is limited and has a bend.&nbsp; Try it on the back straight of Puke - 300kph is easy on a GSXR apparently - ask Kiwidan

It's OK wkid, I'm fully aware of the difference between average speed and terminal velocity. If your speedo is that accurate then congrads because you must have one of the best calibrated bike speedos in the country.

My point was that last year Tony was "averaging" 270 and while his terminal velocity would of been higher I doubt it would be over 280 (given it we're only talking around 5 seconds). So I am surprised (but pleased for you) that you hit 300 "real" kph, I suggest you make an attempt at the Land Speed Records before you sell the bike. I'd certainly have a go if I thought I could do it.

[750Y]

if people are regularly knocking the 300k door out the crate, then is 2ton the next barrier to come tumbling down? then what? some monstrosity of a bike breaks 350 out the box within the next 10 years? things are getting insane really quick.
riders never had it so good. any dickhead who knows how to twist a throttle can walk into a showroom now, hp up whatever shiny monster they like the look of, and do warp factor speeds in an instant, and at todays prices it's totally obtainable for a large number. i don't think there has ever been a time where there have been so many machines capable of ridiculous speeds on our roads and yet the roads have hardly changed. it's kind of an exciting time watching these 'hyper sports bikes evolve'. oh to be a good rider & confidently take charge of these monsters.
one day roger, one day 8-)

[scumdog]

My old iron Sporty had the Yankee speedo that only went up to 80mph (REAL miles, none of this kilo-whatsit stuff) I believe it was a US Government ordered thing back then, the idea was that when doing 60mph on a 80mph speedo it meant the needle was 3/4 of the way round the dial, psychs you into believing you are going faster than you really are - it was a fuel crisis era idea.

The good thing was I could honestly say I didn't know its top speed, just "off the clock man, way off the clock":2thumbsup:

[wkid_one]

Scary really 750.....I wonder how long it will be before they manu impose a voluntary governor/limiter on the speed achieveable.&nbsp; When you consider the new R1 is coming out with 180hp (with ramair) - terminal velocity is just a matter of how you want to gear the bike.

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[Oscar]

Originally posted by wkid_one
I've done 300+ on the bike (with Mangell in hot pursuit), the speed looked about right too me (yes yes all you pc people go 'boo hiss as it is stupid).&nbsp; What a legend......makes me want to ride again.&nbsp; Now if only someone will insure me.......

Yeah, I had a speedo like that once...
http://www.ukgser.com/forums/images/smilies/250503/jerkit.gif

[bluninja]

WKID, Manufacturers&nbsp;already agreed 2 years back to limit max speed to 186 mph (why 186 I don't know). Guess as soon as some manufacturer breaks this then they will all start pushing for fastest production bike once more. Doesn't stop you tuning it for more of course. So all bikes produced in the last 2 years have been tuned (eletronically limited?) to 299 kmh out of the crate as a max.

TTFN

[jrandom]

Originally posted by bluninja
WKID, Manufacturers&nbsp;already agreed 2 years back to limit max speed to 186 mph (why 186 I don't know)

Yup, I recall reading in a road test comparison of the ZX12R and the '03 busa that the '12 just *stopped* at 186 with a few grand left in top gear and the busa did much the same, even though the dyno run indicated that the Suzuki had more ponies than the 01/02 model which did about 190-something stock. I think that's how it went anyway.

[bluninja]

Here's an acrticle from 2000 about the Hayabusa (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/detail?sectionID=69655&amp;documentID=16080) and one about the Manufacturers Agreeing (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/detail?sectionID=69655&amp;documentID=16342)to voluntary speed restrictions.

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[Oscar]

Do you grippers have any idea how much horsepower it takes to make a 180kg motorcycle go 300km/h?

Obviously not - now I think I hear your Mummy calling...

[bluninja]

Well that would also depend on the frontal area and coefficient of drag Oscar. That's why v twins can run similar speeds to in i4 with less power output. It's why unfaired muscle bikes go slower than min crotch rockets.

As for WKID...well looking 2 km ahead (2 km + straights?) AND reading the speedo at 300kmh. What can I say 83 metres a second whizzing by as he views his speedo.

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[Oscar]

Originally posted by bluninja
Well that would also depend on the frontal area and coefficient of drag Oscar. That's why v twins can run similar speeds to in i4 with less power output. It's why unfaired muscle bikes go slower than min crotch rockets.

As for WKID...well looking 2 km ahead (2 km + straights?) AND reading the speedo at 300kmh. What can I say 83 metres a second whizzing by as he views his speedo.

TTFN

Yup, I think the equation goes summat like, after 200mph, the average sports bike needs on average another 8hp for each additional 1 mph in speed....

...which roughly means that yer 150hp R1 will do 180ish mph on a good day, but you need a 240hp Ducati GP bike to crack the 200-210mph...

[bluninja]

Not to mention the increase in forces on the tyres that could make the bead break or the tyre break apart...ooops I said not to mention that:D

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[750Y]

Originally posted by Oscar
Yup, I think the equation goes summat like, after 200mph, the average sports bike needs on average another 8hp for each additional 1 mph in speed....

well I guess there's no danger of the 350 mark ever becoming a reality with the current combustion design. maybe we just accept that 300k is plenty. I'd like to experience 300k at least once but in reality i probably couldn't appreciate it anyway.

[Motoracer]

Why are we still using hp and mph, isn't it about time we realised that metric is the way to go? :D

[Oscar]

Originally posted by Motoracer
Why are we still using hp and mph, isn't it about time we realised that metric is the way to go? :D

It's just us old pricks...
Besides, my info. came from a paper by Kevin Cameron who is a yank engineer, and they don't have no steekin' metrics.

[Jackrat]

I understand Triumph was not party to that restriction agreement.
Rumor has it they will be bringing out a sports bike capable of over 300kms.Not that I am that interested,my old MPH eyes couldn,t go that fast anyway.
Heck I remember thinking a 1970 Honda CB750 could never be improved on.
:o

[Oscar]

Originally posted by Jackrat
I understand Triumph was not party to that restriction agreement.
Rumor has it they will be bringing out a sports bike capable of over 300kms.Not that I am that interested,my old MPH eyes couldn,t go that fast anyway.
Heck I remember thinking a 1970 Honda CB750 could never be improved on.
:o

To paraphrase an old saying, it's the nut behind the wheel. I'm pickin' that most of the squids here (you know who you are) would struggle to go any faster on an R1 than they would on an R6...

Years ago, we was marking out the Raglan Enduro on our trail bikes and needed to ride to a section over the Raglan Deviation. We caught and passed a bunch of road riders from the Vic. Club - I still smile thinking about passing GS850's, GSX1100's and various BMW's on my YZ250, on knobblie tyres on the twisty bits...

[Motoracer]

Oh theres no doubt that mx or even some trail bikes go pretty hard on the twisties. Thus they invented "Super Motards". You should see a real Super moto rider go at it on the tarmac. They go faster than anything else I have seen on two wheels around the tight stuff.

[Oscar]

Originally posted by Motoracer
Oh theres no doubt that mx or even some trail bikes go pretty hard on the twisties. Thus they invented "Super Motards". You should see a real Super moto rider go at it on the tarmac. They go faster than anything else I have seen on two wheels around the tight stuff.

We spent our formative years going at unfeasable speeds on gravel and seal on our enduro bikes. There's nuttin like dirt riding to teach you how to ride on the road. It's no fluke that most of the recent MotoGP/500cc Champs are ex-dirt riders...

[Jackrat]

Hmmm,in resent times I have started to wonder about the dirt riding,road riding thing.Mainly in relation to panic situations.
I do a lot of dirt riding,mostly playing by myself,I ride on the dirt like a total nutter,but on the road I am fairly conservative.
The two don,t seem to have much in common,as to top racers coming from dirt back grounds that could just be natural progression,I could ride dirt for years before I could legaly road ride and most racers learnt to ride as kids in the same manner.
I use my brakes in a totaly different manner on the road,I also will intentsionly slide a dirt bike on dirt or gravel Rds,but never do the same with a road bike on tar,Can you say high side.
But then I could be wrong
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[Motoracer]

But you'd have to say Rossi got some spectacular skills from the dirt.

[Jackrat]

Nope I don,t have to say that,not after seeing pictures of the guy on a push bike on tar at around ten years old.
So maybe it all starts on push bikes.
Or then maybe he is just naturaly talented on any surface.
:done:

[750Y]

Originally posted by Motoracer
Why are we still using hp and mph, isn't it about time we realised that metric is the way to go? :D

lol, & it's inches instead of cms btw 8-)

[Oscar]

Originally posted by Jackrat
Hmmm,in resent times I have started to wonder about the dirt riding,road riding thing.Mainly in relation to panic situations.
I do a lot of dirt riding,mostly playing by myself,I ride on the dirt like a total nutter,but on the road I am fairly conservative.
The two don,t seem to have much in common,as to top racers coming from dirt back grounds that could just be natural progression,I could ride dirt for years before I could legaly road ride and most racers learnt to ride as kids in the same manner.
I use my brakes in a totaly different manner on the road,I also will intentsionly slide a dirt bike on dirt or gravel Rds,but never do the same with a road bike on tar,Can you say high side.
But then I could be wrong
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The Kenny Roberts riding school in Spain puts roadracers on Xr100's to teach them bike control.

Riding on the dirt is much the same as road riding, the only difference is the point at which you lose traction. I'd much rather practice slides and braking off road than on - the consequences of a stuff up are much less painful. Even if you don't know it, habits you picked up riding dirt bikes help you on the road.


BTW:Recent World Champs who started on dirt:
Mike Doohan
Kevin Schwantz
Wayne Gardiner
Wayne Rainey
Kenny Roberts Jnr
Kenny Roberts Snr
Freddie Spencer

[madandy]

Most of us probably started on dirt!
you can't legally go road (unless racing) 'till you're a teenager...most motor heads are exposed to vehicles much earlier and its just plain sensible to start a kid on a 50cc dirt bike out in a paddock...some just stuck with dirt for years and got really good at a competetive level before crossing over to road/track racing.

the only time I feel my years on dirt bikes help me is on a wet road.And I guess thats pretty important...

[wkid_one]

All I'll say, and I feel like I am repeating myself, is the speedo was reading 299 and the bike was still accelerating beyond this for a decent enough time.&nbsp; My apologies for not having police presence at the time to verify my speed - I should have validated myself and said 'indicated'&nbsp;again my humblest apologies&nbsp;- and yes, I did look at the speedo - not hard to do when you are tucked under the screen with your face mere inches from it on a straight bit of road.

As for the land speed record - I'd fucken love to - wot a buzz

[Oscar]

Originally posted by wkid_one
All I'll say, and I feel like I am repeating myself, is the speedo was reading 299 and the bike was still accelerating beyond this for a decent enough time.&nbsp; My apologies for not having police presence at the time to verify my speed - I should have validated myself and said 'indicated'&nbsp;again my humblest apologies&nbsp;- and yes, I did look at the speedo - not hard to do when you are tucked under the screen with your face mere inches from it on a straight bit of road.

As for the land speed record - I'd fucken love to - wot a buzz

You should get a reading on yer right wrist.
It's prolly doing Mach 1.....

[Motoracer]

Originally posted by Oscar
You should get a reading on yer right wrist.
It's prolly doing Mach 1.....


LMAO!! (no offence wkid)

[Trevor Suzuki]

I first saw this clip in about 1989 on TV in the UK so it's no wonder the guy is probably dead by now. I managed to tape the clip at the time but someone managed to tape over it so when I get ADSL I'll have to download it.
This is my first reply so gidday to all the KB'ers out there.

[DEATH_INC.]

OK all you non-believers,I've seen 330kph on the speedo of my ZX12 on more than a couple of occasions.It was a 2000 model which has no speed restriction.The tacho was sitting on the red-line.with the gearing I had this calculates to 307kph........ :eek5:
I for one believe wikid one,I've also seen 270+k on the Gixx-the R1 is 250cc bigger so it should be able to do it with enough room,and a little speedo error....

[igor]

i was in a 747 once flying from Holland to LA and the picture on the screen said we was doing 1012kmh

it didn't feel very fast to me

[marty]

i took an 02 NZ spec busa for a blast 2 weeks ago. it was the full HP model, not like the canadian spec ones that suzuki are selling for $18999 at the moment. just for a laugh i rolled down as slow as it would go in 6th (about 30k) then rolled on the power. in what seemed like about 10 seconds, at 280k (indicated), i was running out of straight bit. the bike was still pulling, and it was well before redline. i reckon it would easily have done 300 and more. bizarre bike really - doddles around town happily, u-turns in one lane streets, then does 280 without really trying.

[jrandom]

bizarre bike really - doddles around town happily, u-turns in one lane streets, then does 280 without really trying.

Weep. Drool. Want. Sigh.

[pete376403]

My old iron Sporty had the Yankee speedo that only went up to 80mph (REAL miles, none of this kilo-whatsit stuff) I believe it was a US Government ordered thing back then, the idea was that when doing 60mph on a 80mph speedo it meant the needle was 3/4 of the way round the dial, psychs you into believing you are going faster than you really are - it was a fuel crisis era idea.

The good thing was I could honestly say I didn't know its top speed, just "off the clock man, way off the clock":2thumbsup:

It was a government regulation for fuel saving. The govt logic (oxymoron) was
that if people couldn't see how fast they were going, they wouldn't go fast. There was a pretty brisk trade in "unregulated" speedos from Canada, according to the bike mags ("Cycle") I read at the time.

[pete376403]

i was in a 747 once flying from Holland to LA and the picture on the screen said we was doing 1012kmh

it didn't feel very fast to me

Thats cos you couldn't feel the wind in your hair. You should have opened a windows.

[pete376403]

It's just us old pricks...
Besides, my info. came from a paper by Kevin Cameron who is a yank engineer, and they don't have no steekin' metrics.

Kevin Cameron is Motorcycles Engineering God. His written articles make so much sense, and theres no bullshit.