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macros87
13th December 2010, 21:53
Hey guys, I have a ZXR250 A with a perfectly good working exhaust... BUT since I bought it, it has had an unsightly big visible dent on it.... my luck with wreckers has been that wrecked bikes often have good working mufflers with scuffs, dents etc.. I already have one of those, good working mufflers with scuffs and dents; and for the money I would spend for a stock muffler that’s mint I have decided I would rather put more money into it and get something nice.

I was looking for something that wouldn’t require any cutting and welding, just when I thought that was too much to ask, I found this http://tyga-performance.com/site/product_info.php?products_id=1529 . Tricky bit is, its for a ZXR250 C and i have an A.

Now that the intro into my story is done, my questions are:
• Anyone fitted one of these on their bike before?
• Does anyone know if the mufflers on the C and A are interchangeable? Meaning would this bolt on without modification?

• And lastly although perhaps not that important... DOES IT SOUND TOTALLY AWESOME?

All help appreciated :D

Phreak
13th December 2010, 23:26
It should fit, but at that price...? Ouch...

macros87
14th December 2010, 09:45
yes.... the price is a bit of a biggie there, i had at first been looking at them locally or in australia but the australian dollar is as expensive to buy at the moment as the us dollar, and respectable carbon fibre here isnt cheap either. with shipping it will come to 380ish dollars, but because it bolts straight on i wont have to pay someone to do the cutting and welding that absolutely every other exhaust ihave found would requier.

this is the only straight bolt on exhaust i have found, with the added labour to fit it most decent looking things end up costing around that much anyway.

now you say it "should fit". is this an educated guess? or something based on definite knowledge and fact? i apreciate the input, but i need to be fairly certain... before i invest almost 400 on it.....

man i hate to ask this..... but does anybody know if skidmark is still around? havnt seen him comenting around the place since i came back after a year and a half absent from kb.

imdying
14th December 2010, 10:52
but at that price...? Ouch...

yes.... the price is a bit of a biggie there
The price? We're all looking at the same USD$250 carbon fibre muffler right?

I've never seen a Tyga product that didn't fit as advertised.

macros87
14th December 2010, 13:56
The price? We're all looking at the same USD$250 carbon fibre muffler right?

I've never seen a Tyga product that didn't fit as advertised.

What I thought he meant was that it was more expensive that the cheap stuff you can get on trade me... but I just assumed that, again with the welding labor since they are all slip on it would come to about the same price as this anyway (shipping included even).

I completely trust the product to fit as advertised, the problem (for me at least) is the product is advertised to fit a ZXR250 C not an A like mine, which is what I am asking, has anyone fitted a ZXR C muffler on a ZXR A or vice versa?

I have been having a look at the ZXR C service manual but it is very vague about the muffler, it really talks about the whole exhaust system not really the muffler. I dont have a ZXR A manual to compare it to though so I am just looking at the bike itself.

thats the page of the manual below,

So just to recap, Does anybody know for sure if a ZXR250 C exhaust will straight bolt on to a ZXR250 A?

imdying
14th December 2010, 14:18
So just to recap, Does anybody know for sure if a ZXR250 C exhaust will straight bolt on to a ZXR250 A? Email Matt from Tyga; generally he takes between 24 and 48 hours to reply to queries.

Anyone have a C and can measure the flange bolt centres?

Really though, this is pretty basic shit. If the flange doesn't fit, chop it off and weld on one that will let it fit.

Phreak
14th December 2010, 21:17
I was just thinking the exchange rate from the USD to NZD isn't very pocket friendly at the moment... that's all...

macros87
14th December 2010, 21:26
Email Matt from Tyga; generally he takes between 24 and 48 hours to reply to queries.

Anyone have a C and can measure the flange bolt centres?

Really though, this is pretty basic shit. If the flange doesn't fit, chop it off and weld on one that will let it fit.

well if I was going to cut and weld then that would open up a whole lot of other better/cheaper/cooler looking options of slip on exhausts, so only real reason (while I really do like this one) I am buying this one is the convenience of fitting it myself in minutes, with no extra help at no extra cost.

I did email him and got this reply :P :

"Thanks for the enquiry. Unfortunately, we don't have the A model to compare it with so I can't say with certainly how easy the silencer would fit the A model.

Perhaps you could check with a forum or somebody who has a lot of experience with the ZXR250s."

according to his suggestion at least I am on the right track here :P

imdying
15th December 2010, 08:20
That's a bit of a bugger. Perhaps take your ruler to town and ride around till you find one parked up? Perhaps one of the bike shops has one in stock?

If you were in Christchurch, I could sort you a flange and a welder... all you'd have to do is turn up with your pipe, have a coffee, and ride off (loudly!).

hayd3n
15th December 2010, 08:45
well if I was going to cut and weld then that would open up a whole lot of other better/cheaper/cooler looking options of slip on exhausts, so only real reason (while I really do like this one) I am buying this one is the convenience of fitting it myself in minutes, with no extra help at no extra cost.

I did email him and got this reply :P :

"Thanks for the enquiry. Unfortunately, we don't have the A model to compare it with so I can't say with certainly how easy the silencer would fit the A model.

Perhaps you could check with a forum or somebody who has a lot of experience with the ZXR250s."

according to his suggestion at least I am on the right track here :P

it would take a little longer than a few minutes
dont break a exhaust stud.

imdying
15th December 2010, 08:52
it would take a little longer than a few minutes
dont break a exhaust stud.Just the muffler mate, not the headers. IIRC the muffler is retained by 3 8x1.25 flanged hex key bolts?

macros87
15th December 2010, 11:24
That's a bit of a bugger. Perhaps take your ruler to town and ride around till you find one parked up? Perhaps one of the bike shops has one in stock?

If you were in Christchurch, I could sort you a flange and a welder... all you'd have to do is turn up with your pipe, have a coffee, and ride off (loudly!).

I the couple of years that i have been on this site now non of the awesome useful offers of help ever seem to come from auckland :(

thanks for the thought though, that would be totally awesome if not somewhat far from me.

I work somewhat close to red baron I see they have a zxr A there now, and they have had Cs in there from time to time, i may drop by and ask, but in the past they haven't been very helpful to me with anything that didnt ultimately result in monetary benefit to them, so we will just have to see what happens.

I actually thought it would be quiet simple to get a ZXR C rider to just tell me if the muffler is also held by three bolts and give me some rough measurements, I know theres tons of them here.


Just the muffler mate, not the headers. IIRC the muffler is retained by 3 8x1.25 flanged hex key bolts?

yes for the ZXR A, now if anyone can confirm its the same for the C. and yeah when I said a few minutes I meant 10 to 15 minutes... with proper tools and everything it doesn't seem that unrealistic for a bolt on muffler

imdying
15th December 2010, 11:40
From looking at pictures of the two, they look very much the same... :sherlock:

Ultrasonic2
15th December 2010, 20:45
i would email them . i would think if it fitted the A the add would say that it also fitted the A . I have a C . with stainless headders and alu muffler . looks and sounds great .

get a straight through muffler and bin the air filter and gear it down and you a rocket ship. will probably need rejeting too. i wish i could find someone that has rejected theres

macros87
16th December 2010, 11:55
i would email them . i would think if it fitted the A the add would say that it also fitted the A . I have a C . with stainless headders and alu muffler . looks and sounds great .

get a straight through muffler and bin the air filter and gear it down and you a rocket ship. will probably need rejeting too. i wish i could find someone that has rejected theres

I have emailed them a few times now with different questions, what they told me was that the only zxr250 they had got they hands on was a zxr250c they just have not had an A model to compare against, so they actually just don't know.

If I went through with it they said they would be interested to know how it went. probably to advertise it fits A models too :)

stainless headers? those aren't standard how did you get those?

Ultrasonic2
16th December 2010, 18:02
I have emailed them a few times now with different questions, what they told me was that the only zxr250 they had got they hands on was a zxr250c they just have not had an A model to compare against, so they actually just don't know.

If I went through with it they said they would be interested to know how it went. probably to advertise it fits A models too :)

stainless headers? those aren't standard how did you get those?

They came with the bike. you need to find someone else with a "C" and have a look. at the mufflers. mine wont help as it's now completely different

steelestring
16th December 2010, 18:26
They came with the bike. you need to find someone else with a "C" and have a look. at the mufflers. mine wont help as it's now completely different

My bike is stored in a friends garage on the other bside of town. Would have been easy to take a look by now and sort all this out.. dam:facepalm:

steelestring
16th December 2010, 18:33
Your stainless/chromed headers are from a naked version of a zxr called a balius.

R6_kid
16th December 2010, 20:32
IMO it'd be worth while spending an extra $50-100 to get the mounting angle re-engineered anyway. It's on a silly angle and if you made it run more parallel with the fairing it'd look better.

$251USD is cheap for a good pipe from a reputable company.

Ultrasonic2
16th December 2010, 21:23
Your stainless/chromed headers are from a naked version of a zxr called a balius.

i had a look at the balius and mine are definately different to the ones in the pics i found

steelestring
17th December 2010, 06:56
i had a look at the balius and mine are definately different to the ones in the pics i found

Wow, I wonder where they came from then...

macros87
17th December 2010, 17:18
Your stainless/chromed headers are from a naked version of a zxr called a balius.

that was the only explanation that had come to mind for me, i suppose theres always the chance they could be custom or from a bike that was close enough and only required little modification to fit... who knows this bikes are so old the stories behind the mods done to them are lost in time... my front fairing has two cut out and then reshaped with fiber glass (you can tell from behind) round holes that look really cool with some mesh in them on the right and left side of my headlights... now WTF are they for? I have not the faintest clue what anybody intended for that, but they are there.



IMO it'd be worth while spending an extra $50-100 to get the mounting angle re-engineered anyway. It's on a silly angle and if you made it run more parallel with the fairing it'd look better.

$251USD is cheap for a good pipe from a reputable company.

I certainly thought so, I had a few mufflers in mind but this seems to be the most bang for buck, and I have seen some of their work on the odd tyga cbr250s you run into here in NZ and I trust their quality. so I feel its not money thrown away...

on the angle thing... that had never even crosses my mind... I am a more visual person though, is that a common mod if I googled it would it come up so i can have a look? suppose theres only one way to find that out :p

motorbyclist
19th December 2010, 14:31
I was looking for something that wouldn’t require any cutting and welding, just when I thought that was too much to ask, I found this http://tyga-performance.com/site/product_info.php?products_id=1529 . Tricky bit is, its for a ZXR250 C and i have an A.

at that price ($325NZD) it IS a pretty good deal, but perhaps it would be worthwhile giving Virgin mufflers a call and get one custom made and fitted for approx $400 NZD? It removes all the guesswork, and perhaps they've fitted one before.n They can also do a "re-skin" if you get another dent ;)

redbaron does has a ZXR250C listed http://www.redbaron.co.nz/details.asp?vehicle_id=1131371 if you want to go measure one (no other shops in auckland appear to have any)

pop on a fresh air filter and get it rejetted to get full benefit from the pipe :)

steelestring
20th December 2010, 13:16
[QUOTE=macros87;1129935003]that was the only explanation that had come to mind for me, i suppose theres always the chance they could be custom or from a bike that was close enough and only required little modification to fit... who knows this bikes are so old the stories behind the mods done to them are lost in time... my front fairing has two cut out and then reshaped with fiber glass (you can tell from behind) round holes that look really cool with some mesh in them on the right and left side of my headlights... now WTF are they for? I have not the faintest clue what anybody intended for that, but they are there.


To make it look like a baby zxr750?:blink:

macros87
8th February 2011, 22:23
After all the help I got from this thread I didnt want to leave you guys high and dry... theres gotta be a more definitive end to it right? well the muffler arrived today... lets see how it goes tomorrow.


To make it look like a baby zxr750?:blink:

and on that... it doesn't look like a zxr 750 at all though... i think they may have once been some kind of air intake but i really dont know theres no pipes or tubes coming to or from it, have a look.

Sorry if its not that clear, its the best my phone could do, they are on next to each light, they look professionally done.

macros87
9th February 2011, 18:49
it does fit quiet well :D

and it looks great!

and internet rules dictate photos or it didnt happen! so... again cellphone photos but you can see

Mozza
10th March 2012, 10:13
Thanks for helping me find this spent weeks looking for one on net and yes there now advitising it fits on a models should look good on me silver and black c model