Advice please

[Ladydragon]

Need some helpful advice my work has just got new cater's and i've been put on a 90 day trial apprantly its the law now.One of the Ladies I work with who is meant to be my friend (who is not now):angry2: is trying to stuff things up for me with the new bosses.This women Julie has no quilfations and she cooks in the mornings and i'm the chef at night.I've been working with her cause at the moment we have functions on.

My other very close friend said Julie feels threatened cause i've got quilifations i'm a chef and had a cv and the boss was impressed with and she hasn't got one and they also phones me up really quick and said i'd got the job.So anyway Julie has tied to get me in trouble 3 times now with the new boss which nearly happened.

Maureen said just ignore her and don't say anything or Julie will spread some bad words to the boss to get rid of me apprantly shes done it to someone else.So what to I do put up with the shit shes giving me or say something to her or the new boss but then it would make it worse.

And I need the job!!!

Thanks

Nina

[steve_t]

Is this Julie chick quite tight with the new boss? Is Julie also on a 90 day trial? It is not law that you have to be on a 90 day trial. Both parties must agree to the 90 day trial for it to be legal, however, if you don't agree, they'd probably just not hire you at all and have someone who will agree to the 90 days.
When you say that Julie has tried to get you in trouble 3 times now, is she setting you up or is she just trying to nark you out for genuine mistakes you've made?
If what your friend has said is true, chances are that Julie is already sabotaging you to the boss. My recommendation is that you organise a meeting with the boss and express your concerns re Julie causing a hostile work environment. If you have no proof of or witnesses to Julie's actions, you could probably just ask the boss to document the complaint and keep a closer eye on Julie's actions etc. If the boss organises a meeting with Julie, I guess the issue is out in the open but could really lead to an even more hostile work environment. Try to have a witness attend the meeting or consider a voice recorder. Make sure you don't suggest things like Julie is jealous because you have qualifications and she doesn't; that sort of thing doesn't go down well. I guess there's a lot more to the situation than you can describe here. You have to go with your gut about how to approach this situation and take advice here with a grain or kg of salt.
Good luck. Hope it all works out well for ya

[Berries]

If you are a decent chef you should be able to get another job no problem.

[Genestho]

Setup a meeting with you, the boss and 'Julie', conduct it with courtesy and respect, rise above any silly comments, try to respond don't re-act, write everything down that you wish to address and go through each issue, finish each issue with an agreement or solve it, write the outcome of the meeting.

Mindful of the 90 day trial - log everything - dated, of any new problems if any, that could arise from then on in.

The best way is out in the open between all parties, and for all parties to agree that it's sorted, or needs solving and how to go about solving the issues.

Otherwise the backstabbing will continue.

Or cut your losses and walk..

[LBD]

Setup a meeting with you, the boss and 'Julie', conduct it with courtesy and respect, rise above any silly comments, try to respond don't re-act, write everything down that you wish to address and go through each issue, finish each issue with an agreement or solve it, write the outcome of the meeting.

Mindful of the 90 day trial - log everything - dated, of any new problems if any, that could arise from then on in.

The best way is out in the open between all parties, and for all parties to agree that it's sorted, or needs solving and how to go about solving the issues.

Otherwise the backstabbing will continue.

Or cut your losses and walk..

Careful there...don't want the boss thinking you are trying to organise him...and you don't want to make him nervous about a staff member who notes everything down....the be used as evidence in the future.

[Str8 Jacket]

Umm, let me get this straight..... you have been working as a chef for a company but they now have new caterers performing the same duties? If this is so then you need to reseacrh the vulnerable workers act (google it).
The Vulnerable Workers act was put in place to protect people such as yourself and it means that the new caterers need to employee if you wish to continue.

The problem is with this new 90 day trial crap and how it affects that act. I would be getting advise from employment law type peoples....

[Owl]

So glad I don't work with women:facepalm:

[munster]

Is it the same job at the same location, just new owners?

Then 90 law day may or may not apply as shown by a test case involving a pharmacy in the Hutt.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10669915

[phill-k]

Nina

Having been on both sides of the camp, whilst I agree with the other advice you have had here, I'd like to suggest the following.

You need initially to give the new management some credit, I can assure you when a new management team come onto a site they also have new eyes and see an awful lot more background than you are possibly giving them credit for.

The will probably have already marked the other woman as a potential trouble maker, assuming you are doing a good job that is.

Its going to be hard but you are in very busy times at present, rise above her, ignore her, and do a good job yourself that will be noticed, don't lower your own standards by entering into an sort of petty behaviour but show off your potential and you will be recognised.:yes:

[Stirts]

Agree with Phil-K 100% on this.

However I would still document things - date, time, what was said/done. Just don't make it known that you are doing this. This way, if that little shit "Julie" does compromise the working relationship with you and your boss, you will have documentation to back yourself should the shit hit the fan.

[Genestho]

Careful there...don't want the boss thinking you are trying to organise him...and you don't want to make him nervous about a staff member who notes everything down....the be used as evidence in the future.
I'm quite sure the boss would appreciate the chance to resolve the issues - conducted in a professional manner first, rather than taking it outhouse!
http://www.ers.dol.govt.nz/problem/first_steps.html

But yes of course don't record in front of anyone. (should've clarified!)

If it ends up that the OP needs to talk to someone external, the first thing they'll usually ask is for a timeline of the issues or events logged anyway, better when it's fresh in the mind.

Just don't get dragged into anything petty, rise above it and continue to do the best at your job.

[Devil]

Yeah what phil-k said.

Failing that, if you think she's still talking shit behind your back you've got to take action.
Next time you see her, yell "WHO'S THE BOSS??". If you dont get an instant response, drop to one knee and WHAM! sock that biatch in the beef-curtains hard while shouting "TONY DANZA!".

Dont take that crap lying down.

[cbfb]

First, hope there's no chance of your colleagues/boss reading stuff on t'interweb....

Second, ring the Department of Labour (0800 20 90 20). I have dealt with them over a dispute I had with my employer (which I 'won' in the end). They were really helpful and supportive.

[Stirts]

Also check what your Employment Agreement states around bullying/harassment as this is clearly what she is doing. Your company may have some form of policy/procedure and or guidelines on how to deal with the 5 year old you are currently working with ;)

[White trash]

Yeah what phil-k said.

Failing that, if you think she's still talking shit behind your back you've got to take action.
Next time you see her, yell "WHO'S THE BOSS??". If you dont get an instant response, drop to one knee and WHAM! sock that biatch in the beef-curtains hard while shouting "TONY DANZA!".

Dont take that crap lying down.

Oh my christ this one of the best posts ever, I just burst out laughing my head off. The boss thinks I'm a fucken idiot, untill I showed her the post and now we're both crying with laughter. Thanks Matt.

[firefighter]

I have seen this before.

Get to the boss first.

Put some stuff in her bag and car.

Make sure she gets caught.

You win.

She was there first, she may win if you try and sit down with the boss and let them know what's going on, however theft is instant dismissal.

Fire with fire.....fuck that, put the bitches flames out altogether. Don't play her game by chatting with the boss, she is obviously a slime ball and is probably more conniving than you can be, no matter how truthful what you have to say is.

[firefighter]

So glad I don't work with women:facepalm:

I've met some i'd rather work with than some guys to be honest.......

BUT - Prissy little bitches thinking they can handle 'stereotypically' mens jobs when they were employed to meet the 'unofficial' and 'non-existant' quotas are a fucken life risk and waste space on the truck and a danger to the rest of the crew and the people they are supposed to be there to help.........I mean ummmm....oops that's not pc :facepalm:

[White trash]

I have seen this before.

Get to the boss first.

Put some stuff in her bag and car.

Make sure she gets caught.

You win.

She was there first, she may win if you try and sit down with the boss and let them know what's going on, however theft is instant dismissal.

Fire with fire.....fuck that, put the bitches flames out altogether. Don't play her game by chatting with the boss, she is obviously a slime ball and is probably more conniving than you can be, no matter how truthful what you have to say is.

Perhaps they could have a little competition to see who gives the best head and the boss can decide who stays that way?

[imdying]

Yeah what phil-k said.

Failing that, if you think she's still talking shit behind your back you've got to take action.
Next time you see her, yell "WHO'S THE BOSS??". If you dont get an instant response, drop to one knee and WHAM! sock that biatch in the beef-curtains hard while shouting "TONY DANZA!".

Dont take that crap lying down.

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EPIC POST IS EPIC!!! :sunny:

[Latte]

Yeah what phil-k said.

Failing that, if you think she's still talking shit behind your back you've got to take action.
Next time you see her, yell "WHO'S THE BOSS??". If you dont get an instant response, drop to one knee and WHAM! sock that biatch in the beef-curtains hard while shouting "TONY DANZA!".

Dont take that crap lying down.

leave your PC unlocked at work did ya?

[Devil]

I'm just in that kind of mood today.

[george formby]

I've been a hospitality employer for a number of years, I now work alone, bliss! You have to approach your problem professionally, honestly & factually. I'm sure your boss would appreciate the chance to hear any issues or concerns you may have informally rather than being pushed into a formal meeting which can be unpleasant & possibly unnecessary. Do not guild the lily or second guess what has been said to you, stick to unemotional facts not conjecture & gossip. Your employer is far more likely to think positively of you if they know that you are their to do your job well & find solutions to problems which stop this as a team player.
If your employer is affected by slander & gossip you may want to look for a more professional position.
I was in the habit of shooting any snakes which made my job harder than necessary.:yes:

[Latte]

I'm just in that kind of mood today.

Hope you're not riding my bike then :P

[Ladydragon]

Is it the same job at the same location, just new owners?

Then 90 law day may or may not apply as shown by a test case involving a pharmacy in the Hutt.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10669915

Had a read of the article thanks for that I thought it was a bit weird having to do a 30 day trial of doing the same things i've done in the kitchen for the time i've been working for my first boss.

[Ladydragon]

Everything is ok now been showing the new boss i'm a really hard worker and they actually comented on my working a bit we had a plus it doesn't look to good for Julie I think shes stuffed up a bit we all had a 1/2hr break the other day Maureen and I came back when our break had finished

But Juile wasn't there and the boss asked where she was and was looking around for her she arrived but a bit later apprantly she had to go out somewhere???
It was really weird to that day she was been really nice to me Maureen and I couldn't figure it out.:confused:

Thanks everyone for your advice

Nina

[Oakie]

Just keep on doing good work then. That speaks louder than anything and is a much better strategy than complaining (even if the complaint is valid) in these circumstances.

[White trash]

Didn't need to resort to the Tony Danza approach then? Shame, would have been O for Awesome.

[PrincessBandit]

Didn't need to resort to the Tony Danza approach then? Shame, would have been O for Awesome.

Don't think Nina's that kinda girl! (Although I did snort out loud when I read the epic post).

Nina, keep working your best and I'm sure that the boss will see through skullduggery and mischief making on anyone else's part.

[u4ea]

Interesting reading here. Glad your work ethics have shone through!
Am going through something similar where we are all new staff and some are trying to preen themselves for better positions which are coming up.
I'm using the strategy that "silence speaks a thousand words" and just keeping my head down and being as contienciuos (SP) and professional as I can be.
It is bloody hard when your work mates are trying to undermine you and doing it in front of clients (in my job it has the potential to be dangerous).
Am looking for another job as I cant be F!@T with the competitive crap ,it doesn't make for a healthy environment!!!!

[Ladydragon]

So I worked again so hard last night I worked for 12hrs of couse with breaks and a hour break for dinner thats what the boss likes us to have. Franko (my boss) actually came over to me last night again and said I was working really well so it looks like thinks are going good so far.:woohoo:

The only thing is I take the work courtesy van home and I was sitting in the back seat by myself and I fell asleep :zzzz: for 20 mins next thing I get Nina your home

Julie has already started to take days off anyway she had a sore foot ages ago and stopped limping but all of a sudden her sore foot has come back but shes not limping

.You see what the new cater's don't know is that Julie has another job at night time and she also likes to hang around and have drinkies.When my old boss ran the kitchen she would not just turn up to work and straight away Maureen and I knew why.Julies taken tonight,Sunday off there is bowls on tonight.I could bet money on it that she wont turn up on Monday either.

[Ladydragon]

Don't think Nina's that kinda girl! (Although I did snort out loud when I read the epic post).

Nina, keep working your best and I'm sure that the boss will see through skullduggery and mischief making on anyone else's part.

Thanks for saying that PrincessBandit i'd nver sink as low as Julie Jobs are hard to come by these days so I wouldn't wont to ruin someones trial for a job for them thats just not right.

[imdying]

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You're doing it right!

[hellokitty]

Hey Nina, I believe in Karma - Julie will get what is coming to her and she will show her true colours. She will always be a pisshead and her drinking will be her downfall.
Just work hard (as you do) and your boss isn't stupid - they will see what is happening, and she won't last through her 3 month trial period

[Ladydragon]

Oh my gosh i've got such good news I got called in this morn to do lunches at work this is usually Julies job but she took last Fri,Sat and Sun and now didn't show up today.

My new boss (the wife) told me tonight to arrive at 9am tomorrow and that i'll be doing the lunches and then as everyone was walking out tonight she told Maureen and I if Julie shows up to work in the morning tell her to go home.

Maureen and I knew she would stuff up but not stuff up this early....:woohoo:
You have no idea how happy I am :woohoo:

[steve_t]

:woohoo::drinkup::yes::yes: