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akkadian
19th December 2010, 18:28
Hi there. Bought a 2008 CBF250 when I got my licence a few weeks ago and am kind of sick of it already. I'm sure this has been covered before but what would you recommend as a bulletproof reliable fast 250 for me? Hornet, VTR or a Bandit? Something else? 5k max
mattian
19th December 2010, 18:36
250's are 250's mate. They're all going to have the same power over-all, just distributed differently.
What you should be doing is concentrating on riding skills. You're still learning alot of new things and currently you have the perfect bike to do it on.
akkadian
19th December 2010, 18:46
Cheers Mattian. Thats what everyone keeps telling me but I reckon there is a lot of difference between a cbf250 that hits a hundred in 12 seconds and a vtr that does it in 5. Not wanting to ride fast necessarily but want something that will at least give me more of a buzz than the 4 wheeled shopping basket I drive to work most days (which incidentally will hit 100 in 9 secs, and yes it's a K11 March!)
Taz
19th December 2010, 19:02
Just go straight to a Yamaha R1. 250's are ghey. :lol:
tri boy
19th December 2010, 19:04
If you want thrills, get an XR250l, learn to ride off road/wheelie/jump/bog your self in mud etc.
Wash it down, and commute to work.
The open road/cities/built up traffic is no place to learn about thrills. MHO
superman
19th December 2010, 20:16
12 seconds?! Ouch... mine goes to it in 7 and I thought mine was pretty slow for a 250, which is perfect really because the fastest car I had could do it in 7 seconds also.
Why not just go for a CBR? 0-100 in 5.2. You can get them within your budget, though you wouldn't be able to go for a recent model.
Or... hit it up with an Aprilia 250 and get 4.3 seconds to 100. Though that one costs a bit more. And is filled with 2 stroke joyous lawn mower sounds. :yes:
marty
19th December 2010, 20:26
7 seconds to 100km/h in a car? fuck that's slow.
and if your 250 takes 12 seconds, you can't ride for shit
Gibbo89
19th December 2010, 21:10
I would not like to be a cbf250 for the whole licensing period, but to learn on for a month or so (might take more depending on ability etc)
Something with at least 2 cylinders might be good for you.
If it bought for fun, not just commuting then a twin might be fun. 4 cylinders are fun but just cost more in terms of maintenance.
Options for 2 cylinders that are reasonably new-ish: zzr, gpx, vtr, ex250, gsx, (srx?, not sure what years they are produced)
then there are the 4 cylinders ones :yes: (but I'm sure you know all about the bike options anyway.)
YellowDog
19th December 2010, 21:44
Hi there. Bought a 2008 CBF250 when I got my licence a few weeks ago and am kind of sick of it already. I'm sure this has been covered before but what would you recommend as a bulletproof reliable fast 250 for me? Hornet, VTR or a Bandit? Something else? 5k max
It's hard to believe that your bike is that slow.
Try getting someone else to ride it and tell you what they think?
HenryDorsetCase
19th December 2010, 21:47
I'd give you $500 for it. I have a plan
zmlam
20th December 2010, 06:59
There's another forum site here that talks about various 250's and their 0-100km/hr times.
http://www.netrider.net.au/forums/archive/index.php/t-99779.html
Had a discussion with a local dealer about the bandit - and have been told its faster then the vtr. I see there's the gruntier 'V' version of the bandit too. Though the power comes in later while for the VTR you have at earlier on (in terms or revs).
From memory there's Honda's CBR bike that has reputation for being very fast?
Have a VTR myself - probably in similar time span to you having yours, certainly haven't even thought about being sick of it.
Only gripe I have against it - is its missing another gear when I'm going on the highway.
Genie
20th December 2010, 07:10
These are pretty nifty....http://www.bikebits4you.com/images/categories/NINJA%20250R.jpg
archie-no2
20th December 2010, 09:39
Hi, the bandits are cheap with alot of useable power, they are easy to maintain and will get you to 100 in 5-6seconds depending on your weight. They have a good comfortable riding posistion, i personally wouldnt go for a V model because its just another thing to go wrong and they variable valve electronics are not the cheap to fix and the power delivery is excellent anyway. I went from a gn to a bandit and they are polar oppisites, you can pick one up for around the $2200-$5000 depending on the model year and ks. Good luck, i was over the gn in about 2 weeks.
Drew
20th December 2010, 10:08
I wanna see a 250 getting to 100k's in 5 seconds! My bloody RF doesn't do it fuck all quicker than that.
That said, an inline four 250 will be much faster than the CBF, (which is a single yeah?).
$5000 is fuckin heaps to buy a really good one, just make sure you get one than runs really smooth.
Juzz976
20th December 2010, 10:34
Hi there. Bought a 2008 CBF250 when I got my licence a few weeks ago and am kind of sick of it already. I'm sure this has been covered before but what would you recommend as a bulletproof reliable fast 250 for me? Hornet, VTR or a Bandit? Something else? 5k max
Get a 2KR FZR or a zeal with low kms....leave the change in the bank for an upgrade when ya get ya full or licence changes which ever happens first.
Little Miss Trouble
20th December 2010, 10:58
Bah, who needs to learn handling skills, buy a GSXR1000 :shutup:
superman
20th December 2010, 12:14
7 seconds to 100km/h in a car? fuck that's slow.
I've only had 4 cars, my old corolla hatchback was about 11 seconds.
Is 7 seconds really that slow because the car was a 2.2L VTEC front wheel drive. Obviously I was mistaken :facepalm:
Drew
20th December 2010, 12:41
Bah, who needs to learn handling skills, buy a GSXR1000 :shutup:I've had a couple gixxer thou's, and I cant ride to save myself.
Good advice.
marty
20th December 2010, 13:17
I've only had 4 cars, my old corolla hatchback was about 11 seconds.
Is 7 seconds really that slow because the car was a 2.2L VTEC front wheel drive. Obviously I was mistaken :facepalm:
considering most late model diesel utes will see off 100 in under 8 seconds, sounds like you can't drive either. or maybe your 2.2L VTEC front wheel drive was just a POS.
maybe i've just been spoiled by 0-100 in 3 seconds for too long.
superman
20th December 2010, 13:29
considering most late model diesel utes will see off 100 in under 8 seconds, sounds like you can't drive either. or maybe your 2.2L VTEC front wheel drive was just a POS.
maybe i've just been spoiled by 0-100 in 3 seconds for too long.
Ahh I see your comparing expensive modern machines. I'm but a humble student with a small budget. This was from 1992 and cost approx $2500. Nah I nailed the launch best as possible. But even the power that car had with front wheel drive caused a lot of wheel spin so you had to really get it right. :yes:
xen
20th December 2010, 14:23
Yeah if you get something like a bandit, would be double the HP, much more fun. Enough to last to your full tho hmmm
considering most late model diesel utes will see off 100 in under 8 seconds, sounds like you can't drive either. or maybe your 2.2L VTEC front wheel drive was just a POS.
:blink: Think you're counting fast, 12secs according to toyota for a 3L diesel
http://www.toyota-europe.com/cars/new_cars/hilux/specs.aspx
Drew
20th December 2010, 18:50
:blink: Think you're counting fast, 12secs according to toyota for a 3L diesel
http://www.toyota-europe.com/cars/new_cars/hilux/specs.aspx
I bloody hope so, cos I reckon the RF goes alright and if diesel utes are beating eight I'm gonna stop wheelying past them.
schrodingers cat
20th December 2010, 19:14
If you want thrills, get an XR250l
(or similar) I agree!:yes:
learn to ride off road/wheelie/jump/bog your self in mud etc.
Wash it down, and commute to work.
Sure, why not.
The open road/cities/built up traffic is no place to learn about thrills.
Bah. Half the fun of a dirt bike in town is riding like a loon. I double dare you to keep both wheels on the ground all the way to work :woohoo:
marty
21st December 2010, 07:38
That's pretty funny about the Hilux. My Navara is 8 seconds flat, and I'm sure my friend's Colorado will beat that. Both of those trucks will/do easily cruise at over 160kmh with the cruise control on - 450 torques will do that :)
MSTRS
21st December 2010, 08:59
WTF have diesel utes got to do with a sluggard CBF250?
OP. If you want the least boring 250, then put some decent tyres on the one you have and learn to ride it properly. Going fast, and getting there quickly, gets old in about the same time you reckon you got bored.
marty
21st December 2010, 09:13
what are you the thread police?
he was comparing how 'fast' his 2.2l vtec front wheel drive was compared to his bike. i was comparing the ute.
he's a 3 week 250cc noob who wants a faster bike. he should just go and get an RS250 and stfu.
MSTRS
21st December 2010, 09:29
what are you the thread police?
he was comparing how 'fast' his 2.2l vtec front wheel drive was compared to his bike. i was comparing the ute.
he's a 3 week 250cc noob who wants a faster bike. he should just go and get an RS250 and stfu.
Thread police? Moi? Hardly...
Just can't see what various 4 wheel creatures have to do with speed of a 250 single.
Corners are where it is, n'est pas?
FWIW - a couple of weeks ago, I did a 1/4 mile day. First timer, I was. Enjoyed it, tho, even if I was 'slow'. Any bike was welcome and there was a fair variety.
Fastest time was 10.94 ZX10 - slowest was 19something FXR150.
Point is, the FXR could have been doing the same anywhere in a 100 zone and not get pinged. But I'm sure he was bored, too...
steelphoenix
23rd December 2010, 10:25
Hi there. Bought a 2008 CBF250 when I got my licence a few weeks ago and am kind of sick of it already. I'm sure this has been covered before but what would you recommend as a bulletproof reliable fast 250 for me? Hornet, VTR or a Bandit? Something else? 5k max
Dude, you have a bike... count yourself lucky, some of us are too poor to have a bike of our own (and can't afford the debt to get one). :crybaby:
Wait until you have your full, and then get something with serious grunt. It's one year, two at the most (I don't know how old you are)... On the other hand, if you have that kind of money to spend (waste?)... I envy you, I really do. <_< :laugh:
Can I have the CBF? I'll even come down to NP to get it... :bleh:
:Offtopic: My 1990 Ford Festiva goes 0-100 in about 12 seconds (on a good day, with a tailwind, down a hill)... surely almost any bike can top that?
Gibbo89
23rd December 2010, 14:14
Get a 2KR FZR or a zeal with low kms....leave the change in the bank for an upgrade when ya get ya full or licence changes which ever happens first.
+1, but I'm not biased at all. Zeals don't have the top end of the faired bikes but it has more mid range so driving around town is not so revvy.
You can drive like a nana on 1 until you get confidence up. I.e. rev to 5k and then change gear, and you'll be quite sedate and nothing is unexpected at those kinds of revs on a Zeal. When your confidence gets up etc and you feel more at home then you can rev it out to 15k and things get more exciting. :sunny:
AllanB
23rd December 2010, 14:17
Keep it - get your full as soon as possible then you have a choice of anything you can afford.
Keep the 250 clean and tidy and retain any service records and it will give you a good return when you up-size.
Genie
23rd December 2010, 20:40
Keep it - get your full as soon as possible then you have a choice of anything you can afford.
Keep the 250 clean and tidy and retain any service records and it will give you a good return when you up-size.
I've read so many times how once one, gets ones' full, one then upgrades.
Is it law that just because you can, you should? What if the rider isn't ready but just because KB World says upgrade, some do and fuck it up.
Me, I'll be sticking to my little nippy until the day arrives that my riding gives it justice!
Ocean1
23rd December 2010, 20:51
Is it law that just because you can, you should?
Yes. Once one gets ones full licence one must add 100cc of capacity every month.
If you don't own a litre bike by the time you've finished reading this sentence you're under arrest.
ducatilover
23rd December 2010, 21:28
considering most late model diesel utes will see off 100 in under 8 seconds,
Since when? The Navara ST-X struggles to be in the low 10s range. The latest Hilux VBox tested is only pulling 11s 0-100s, the 225kw TRD Hilux runs a claimed 7.2s 0-100. :innocent:
http://www.farmermotorgroup.co.nz/admin/documentlibrary/nissannavara_promo.pdf
As for bored of a CBF250, fair enough. Now learn how to ride it better, ride with a few experienced and decent people, get some training done and read the book that Katman tells people to. :rockon: Most of all, stay safe.
AllanB
24th December 2010, 11:07
I've read so many times how once one, gets ones' full, one then upgrades.
Is it law that just because you can, you should? What if the rider isn't ready but just because KB World says upgrade, some do and fuck it up.
Me, I'll be sticking to my little nippy until the day arrives that my riding gives it justice!
Fair comment and full credit to you for wanting to get your riding skill top notch.
The desire to upgrade it usually in response to wanting more of the enjoyment motorcycling offers - more power rush, more speed, better handling, cornering, braking the ability to ride further with ease and in comfort, add a pillion etc.
Without trying to be an arse I am confident that when you upsize from your 250 you'll have little interst in going back to it.
As for what size is desirable, If KBers were really honest the modern 600's and similar are probably ideal for NZ - take a Street Triple for example - grunty, heaps of power and attacks the hills better than most larger and heavier bikes. Absolutely fine for a full day on the open road too!
Drew
24th December 2010, 16:09
As for what size is desirable, If KBers were really honest the modern 600's and similar are probably ideal for NZ - take a Street Triple for example - grunty, heaps of power and attacks the hills better than most larger and heavier bikes. Absolutely fine for a full day on the open road too!
Absolute dribble, well done indeed!
Yep, a middle weight is perfectly adequate, but that does not make it everyones cup of tea. Or comfortable for that matter.
We all want something a little bit different for our needs, as no two of us share the same. I ride a big block because it fits with how I ride, (even if that is like a fuckwit most of the time).
Opinions are like arsholes, it's true. One should not try and speak for such a large bunch of fore mentioned arsholes lightly.
awa355
24th December 2010, 18:28
Hi there. Bought a 2008 CBF250 when I got my licence a few weeks ago and am kind of sick of it already. I'm sure this has been covered before but what would you recommend as a bulletproof reliable fast 250 for me? Hornet, VTR or a Bandit? Something else? 5k max
I have just finished running up 12,000ks in 15months on my CBF250. Yes it has no grunt under 5,000 revs, you have to work the gearbox like a 2 stroke to keep it winging out of the corners. Will cruise all day at 100kph t Top speed an honest 130k's. , not a lot of reserve power for overtaking on the open road, will do 360k's without hitting reserve, Best headlight of any small bike. Very smooth for a single.
Like any bike it can also be ridden into corners far too fast. Brilliant handling with Sports Demons fitted.
0 to 100 times are fairly irrelevant, Grunt avalible to pull out and go like shit to pass a stock truck is more important, eg; 80-130kph. In this respect the CBF is definitely not the quickest. But that in itself teaches a new rider to think twice about the safety of passing time/distance required .
If speed is your only goal, the CBF will be too slow. If learning how to get the best out of any given machine and develop youself as a rider it has a lot to offer.
akkadian
30th December 2010, 23:24
Interesting replies one and all. The problem is this. I got my licence to have the quick acceleration and thrill of riding on two wheels, not to sit on something that struggles at 100k into a head wind and sounds attrocious. Didn't do home work at all before buying and now regret it. In saying that, I have ridden 6000ks in the month I have owned this bike because I am doing a 200km a day commute and have also been on "group rides" every day for the past two weeks of Christmas Holiday so don't really consider myself a noob anymore. I don't know even 10% of what there is to know yet, which is why I am here, but I do know that there has to be something quicker, more reliable, more comfortable and more satisfying than what I have at the moment or what is the point in bike ownership at all. Not interested in carving up corners, just want to smash it off the line (just like the car driver I am). Only 8 months until full licence, unless the law change in June farks that up, but want to have fun in the meantime if possible. Bike is on TM now. Hope to make some of the cash back I have wasted.
pc220
31st December 2010, 06:07
Interesting replies one and all. The problem is this. I got my licence to have the quick acceleration and thrill of riding on two wheels, not to sit on something that struggles at 100k into a head wind and sounds attrocious. Didn't do home work at all before buying and now regret it. In saying that, I have ridden 6000ks in the month I have owned this bike because I am doing a 200km a day commute and have also been on "group rides" every day for the past two weeks of Christmas Holiday so don't really consider myself a noob anymore. I don't know even 10% of what there is to know yet, which is why I am here, but I do know that there has to be something quicker, more reliable, more comfortable and more satisfying than what I have at the moment or what is the point in bike ownership at all. Not interested in carving up corners, just want to smash it off the line (just like the car driver I am). Only 8 months until full licence, unless the law change in June farks that up, but want to have fun in the meantime if possible. Bike is on TM now. Hope to make some of the cash back I have wasted.
When I had my wee Scorpio 225 I got frustrated with the lack of power very quickly also. I spent all my time on it focused on going as fast as it would possibly go. Trouble was that while I was so focused on going fast I forgot to learn how to ride.
Once I moved up to a bigger bike, gpx750, and now the Black Bandit, I actually started to ride slower. Why ?. Because I know the bike has the power to go quick, but because i wasted my time on 6L and R focused on speed I dont have the skill level to match it.
The fact that you just want to 'smash it off the line' :facepalm:suggests to me that maybe you shouldnt even be road riding as in NZ conering is actually quite a vital skill.
After 3 years road riding I still very much consider myself a noob, maybe I am just alot slower at learning than you.
Just my 2c worth of dribble
Hawkeye
31st December 2010, 07:33
Interesting replies one and all. The problem is this. I got my licence to have the quick acceleration and thrill of riding on two wheels, not to sit on something that struggles at 100k into a head wind and sounds attrocious. Didn't do home work at all before buying and now regret it. In saying that, I have ridden 6000ks in the month I have owned this bike because I am doing a 200km a day commute and have also been on "group rides" every day for the past two weeks of Christmas Holiday so don't really consider myself a noob anymore. I don't know even 10% of what there is to know yet, which is why I am here, but I do know that there has to be something quicker, more reliable, more comfortable and more satisfying than what I have at the moment or what is the point in bike ownership at all. Not interested in carving up corners, just want to smash it off the line (just like the car driver I am). Only 8 months until full licence, unless the law change in June farks that up, but want to have fun in the meantime if possible. Bike is on TM now. Hope to make some of the cash back I have wasted.
Bloody Hell! Riding for a few WEEKS, been on a couple of group rides and you don't consider yourself to be a noob anymore. Don't give you much hope in reaching an old age.
1 year on a small single pot 250, 3 years on a 500 twin and 2 years on a Gixxer 750 in-line 4. And I AM still a noob.
There are a lot of guy's who have much more experience than me on this site who are still learning. When things start going wrong, and believe me that can happen very quickly, unless you have built up the skills to handle the various situations on a smaller, slower bike, your going to be in big trouble.
Don't know how old you are but you certainly come across as yet another 'bullet proof' teenager.
Gibbo89
31st December 2010, 11:56
I don't really consider myself a noob anymore. I don't know even 10% of what there is to know yet
Huh? You don't even know 10% about motorcycling but your now not a 'noob'?
Not interested in carving up corners, just want to smash it off the line (just like the car driver I am).
You sound like a fuckin' boy racer.Do you just want to be the dude that hangs around in town hoping the lights in front of you goes red so you can drag off the gayest v tec integra you have seen all week? Bikes aren't about smashing it off the line, it's in the corners where bikes are in their element (apart from the odd straight line bullet like the Hayabusa (don't get me wrong - they can probably handle pretty too :innocent:)).
I think you don't understand bikes at all. You will be a bike 'noob' most of your life, like most of us.
My 2c
piston broke
31st December 2010, 17:05
:facepalm:
The Everlasting
31st December 2010, 17:09
@ akkadian,you say your not interested in corners,if that's true,your missing the point of having a motorbike,I get a lot of enjoyment going for a ride on twisty roads,it's a real rush flying through the corners.
I say stick with the cb250 until you get your full licence,and take it easy out there!!
akkadian
31st December 2010, 23:30
Nope not interested in corners, there aren't any on my ride to work, but maybe that's just because of what I'm riding. As to being a boy racer, HELL YEAH! Can't see the purpose in riding if it's not a thrill a minute. If the pulse aint racing then i may as well be sitting in a car. Bought the bike as a fun toy. It's not. There's no mystery to the riding thing. Same defensive driving skills I've been using on four wheels for the past 42 years of driving, just more ramifications if you fark it up.
nudemetalz
1st January 2011, 09:28
Dude,..I reckon you need to do a motorcycle riding course.
I had a Suzuki NZ250 quite a while back, that's also a single cylinder four stroke 250. I am betting that I could go a hell of a lot faster on that around the Rimutakas (not that I encourage speeding around there :innocent: ) than on my Moto Guzzi.
And it's only got 33hp......
It's all about riding, not the power of the bike.
You need to develop an attitude that will keep you alive longer.
Too often you hear of a learner buying an RGV250 or NSR250, thinking they are able to ride it, and these really being only for experienced riders as they are lethal, crashing and injuring themselves, if not killing themselves.
My advice is spend more time on the CBF. Get used to being able to ride it to 100% of it's potential. THEN upgrade.
Colin Howie
1st January 2011, 16:35
Jeez im 60 and got a shed full of dirt bikes and my best speedway bike I rode for many seasons,and my GN 250 Suzuki does me fine,Ive had a few bigger road bikes,all gave me pain,in the wallet,I got this one new off old mate Richard Underwood,Ivan Mauger was with me,and told me he hasnt ridden a road bike since 1956,and told me I dont need another.BUT, I have enjoyed it very much,to hell with the power,christ I raced a Kwaka H2R 750 tripple at Western Springs for a few seasons,so I know about power,its got 24000 clicks after 4yrs,East Coast 3 times,and rode it to Christchurch just to watch a speedway meeting. and guess what,its a treat to ride,cheap on gas,best ride,Hunua to Wairoa via Lake Waikaremoana,never saw the lake in my 60yrs,110 ks on gravel,no trouble to us old speedway guys. Even did the Motu Rd,stay alive guys,get a GN250. COLIN
Gibbo89
3rd January 2011, 12:02
Nope not interested in corners, there aren't any on my ride to work, but maybe that's just because of what I'm riding. As to being a boy racer, HELL YEAH! Can't see the purpose in riding if it's not a thrill a minute. If the pulse aint racing then i may as well be sitting in a car. Bought the bike as a fun toy. It's not. There's no mystery to the riding thing. Same defensive driving skills I've been using on four wheels for the past 42 years of driving, just more ramifications if you fark it up.
Your a boy racer with 42 years of driving under your belt? You must look a bit of a dick cruising with people that are less than half your age, I'm a bit worried to ask what car you drive... :facepalm:
MSTRS
3rd January 2011, 13:00
I think you don't understand bikes at all. You will be a bike 'noob' most of your life, like most of us.
And a short life it'll be, if he stays on a bike. In fact, I doubt he'll live long enough to begin 'understanding' bikes.
To the OP...if you wanna 'mash it off the line' then get your arse to MereMere.
hellokitty
3rd January 2011, 21:03
I went from a gn to a bandit and they are polar oppisites,
I learnt on my Dad's Bandit and when I had a bit of a crash on it, I had to get my own bike which was a GN250. what a horrible come down that was! His 250 Bandit could move even with 2 of us on it!
have also been on "group rides" every day for the past two weeks of Christmas Holiday so don't really consider myself a noob anymore.
Really? I have had my full license for 16 months and I am such a noob - but I ride with people that have 40 years more experience than me.
Nope not interested in corners
As to being a boy racer, HELL YEAH! Can't see the purpose in riding if it's not a thrill a minute.
Not into corners, you must be doing it wrong! I ride a cruiser and I can throw it around corners and have a blast!
Perhaps you should get a drag bike? Fast and with no corners - might suit the boy racer in you.
porky
3rd January 2011, 21:14
And a short life it'll be, if he stays on a bike. In fact, I doubt he'll live long enough to begin 'understanding' bikes.
To the OP...if you wanna 'mash it off the line' then get your arse to MereMere.
nicely put. i was gonna post that yeah dead along time so quibblin over a couple of seconds seems a bit.....
A couple of weeks to out grow a 250, a month for a 600 , shit by anzac day youll be a veteran.
Drew
4th January 2011, 09:30
Loving this thread, you sound like a funny cunt akkadian.
yungatart
4th January 2011, 11:08
From the original post, I thought you were a testosterone filled teenager...I hoped you would survive your teenage years and grow up.
It seems you survived the teen age years...but still have not achieved the "grown up" bit...
Get yourself a streetstock and take it to the track, then we will see what kind of noob you are!
Magna83
14th January 2011, 11:53
I was looking at cbf for like 2 minutes when I decided to get a bike. 21HP wouldn't pull you out of bed.
If you're looking for something with a bit more power then check out the 250 Hornet (40HP with 24Nms of torque @11000 RPM) or the 250 Bandit, as you already mentioned (45HP 25Nms of torque@10500 RPM). Both gorgeous bikes.
ducatilover
14th January 2011, 12:00
I was looking at cbf for like 2 minutes when I decided to get a bike. 21HP wouldn't pull you out of bed. If you're looking for something with a bit more power then check out the 250 Hornet. 40HP with 24.00Nms of torque @11000 RPM and gorgeous looking to booth.
Or a VT250 Spada, 40hp and 28nm of torque. Much more useable. They return 4L/100km and go for ever and they have normal tyre sizes unlike the Hornet (Which I agree, are great wee bikes) plus the Spada is far cheaper to buy. :niceone:
Magna83
14th January 2011, 12:10
Or a VT250 Spada, 40hp and 28nm of torque. Much more useable. They return 4L/100km and go for ever and they have normal tyre sizes unlike the Hornet (Which I agree, are great wee bikes) plus the Spada is far cheaper to buy. :niceone:
Wow! Didnt realise the Spada was that nippy. Good call. Nice bit of torque indeed. That would come in handy zipping up Majoribanks st for the heavier plonkers, like myself :yes:
MSTRS
14th January 2011, 12:15
Don't know where those HP figures come from...they are rubbish.
At their peak the ZXR and CBRR put out nigh-on 45hp. A Hornet and a Bandit don't even come close to them. And the Spada (great bike etc - highly recommended) wouldn't have gone over 37ish.
Magna83
14th January 2011, 12:23
Don't know where those HP figures come from...they are rubbish.
HP figures come from here:
http://tiny.cc/a271r
Very useful site. Has all the info you'll ever need. :yes:
ducatilover
14th January 2011, 12:27
Don't know where those HP figures come from...they are rubbish.
At their peak the ZXR and CBRR put out nigh-on 45hp. A Hornet and a Bandit don't even come close to them. And the Spada (great bike etc - highly recommended) wouldn't have gone over 37ish.
Mine on the 1st dyno was 32rwhp, clac 40hp at the crank. (The last dyno got 36...oooh huge)
The bandit was factory claimed 40hp as was the Hornet.
Yeah, the zxr/cbr made around 45hp some were slightly more, some slightly less.
I have the factory manual/specs for the Spade on my computer and they also say 40hp. 3 down on the vt250f2 Integra, but, more torque.
Wow! Didnt realise the Spada was that nippy. Good call. Nice bit of torque indeed. That would come in handy zipping up Majoribanks st for the heavier plonkers, like myself :yes:
They're a brilliant learner bike.
MSTRS
14th January 2011, 12:35
Mine on the 1st dyno was 32rwhp, clac 40hp at the crank. (The last dyno got 36...oooh huge)
The bandit was factory claimed 40hp as was the Hornet.
Yeah, the zxr/cbr made around 45hp some were slightly more, some slightly less.
I have the factory manual/specs for the Spade on my computer and they also say 40hp. 3 down on the vt250f2 Integra, but, more torque.
They're a brilliant learner bike.
There's a clue...
I'm not knocking any of the bikes mentioned, but don't be living in a dreamworld as to their actual power.
The Spada is pretty handy for someone who can ride too. Good power delivery and excellent handing. Wheels take decent tyres too.
ducatilover
14th January 2011, 12:49
There's a clue...
I'm not knocking any of the bikes mentioned, but don't be living in a dreamworld as to their actual power.
The Spada is pretty handy for someone who can ride too. Good power delivery and excellent handing. Wheels take decent tyres too.
I know you're not mocking them :niceone: I have seen mine make what translates to 40crank hp though, so I am happy to stand beside that claim, only for the Spada though. I see the metallic blue beast was back on trademe? Still going strong!
MSTRS
14th January 2011, 13:00
I see the metallic blue beast was back on trademe? Still going strong!
Really? Good little bike, that.
ducatilover
14th January 2011, 13:07
Really? Good little bike, that.
It sure was. Mine was around the clock at 154,000km when I finally parted with it. Only had a small cam chain rattle really. Damn tough little fuckers.
avgas
14th January 2011, 13:59
I've had a couple gixxer thou's, and I cant ride to save myself.
Good advice.
I hear a turbo kit will iron that one out for you
heavyduty
14th January 2011, 14:03
hi guys,
wat about the old gsxr250? they went quick for a 250 in the late 90s didnt they? if i remember right we could pull 190kms plus on one.and rail corner to boot!
any way, i can see this mans problem, he need a 1000!
self control will sort him or the sudden stop will!
if a 42 year old man cant control how far he holds it open,he ant going to learn!
im 37,been riding from 10 yrs= 27 years on bikes
but never had road bikes for more than a month nor did i have a bike licence.
now,retyred from the dirt im on a 1000 with licence(L) and i know you only get one chance!
as you would no,you dont fall off big bikes,they throw! you (hard)
self control, or death! you can still have fun and carefull at the same time i beleave.
my 2 cents sorry
get a beast dude! youll love it!
akkadian
17th January 2011, 16:59
Problem solved. 2009 Honda Hornet 600 arrived today. Very happy now. Thanks for all the advice and comments.
Gibbo89
17th January 2011, 17:10
Problem solved. 2009 Honda Hornet 600 arrived today. Very happy now. Thanks for all the advice and comments.
Are you not on your learners?
Str8 Jacket
17th January 2011, 17:25
Are you not on your learners?
Shock, horror. Since when did bikes start to know if you even had a licence?
Drew
17th January 2011, 17:59
Good stunt bikes the Hornet. Have fun!
Gibbo89
17th January 2011, 18:04
Shock, horror. Since when did bikes start to know if you even had a licence?
I meant, why the fuck would you buy a cbf250 if he is prepared to buy a 600 hornet a few weeks later when all he wanted to do in the first place is go fast in a straight line and race skylines at the lights
The Everlasting
17th January 2011, 18:38
Good stunt bikes the Hornet. Have fun!
He won't be having fun if he gets pulled up riding the 600 on his learners..:laugh:
Smifffy
17th January 2011, 20:33
He won't be having fun if he gets pulled up riding the 600 on his learners..:laugh:
Run a sweepstake on how long he gets away with it?
Forever, I'd reckon.
MSTRS
18th January 2011, 07:51
I meant, why the fuck would you buy a 600 hornet when all he wanted to do in the first place is go fast in a straight line and race skylines at the lights
Fixed that for ya...:devil2:
avgas
18th January 2011, 08:40
Shock, horror. Since when did bikes start to know if you even had a licence?
When sushi tasted like squid on a summers day.
Ferkletastic
18th January 2011, 10:07
Problem solved. 2009 Honda Hornet 600 arrived today. Very happy now. Thanks for all the advice and comments.
From 20hp to 100hp after a few weeks riding and you don't like corners?
Gather round and watch, we're about to learn a valuable lesson.
Murray
18th January 2011, 10:20
:corn::corn::corn: Watching :corn::corn::corn:
Camshaft
18th January 2011, 11:14
most 250s r gay, only gsxrr or cbrr that redline at 18,000 will give u thrills
imdying
18th January 2011, 11:48
only gsxrr or cbrr that redline at 18,000 will give u thrillsWhat? 4 strokes? Are you crazy?!? Tooooo guuuuuuutless :no:
sleemanj
18th January 2011, 13:06
Or a VT250 Spada, 40hp and 28nm of torque. Much more useable.
I have a VTZ which was produced just before the Spada, it's very similar, and echo what you say - the "official marketing" (in japanese) claim 43hp new, god knows what it has now or had in reality - they also claimed it would do 52k/L... yeah right, but whatever the case I can't recommend it highly enough. Cheap. Simple. Light. Agile. Reliable.
Plenty fast enough for most people, and the 6 speed transmission makes it pretty good on open road travelling.
ducatilover
18th January 2011, 15:03
I have a VTZ which was produced just before the Spada, it's very similar, and echo what you say - the "official marketing" (in japanese) claim 43hp new, god knows what it has now or had in reality - they also claimed it would do 52k/L... yeah right, but whatever the case I can't recommend it highly enough. Cheap. Simple. Light. Agile. Reliable.
Plenty fast enough for most people, and the 6 speed transmission makes it pretty good on open road travelling.
I've got an engine dyno comparison between the vtz/f2 integra and the Spada somewhere :second: The vtz/f2 had more aggressive cams.
From 20hp to 100hp after a few weeks riding and you don't like corners?
Gather round and watch, we're about to learn a valuable lesson.
:weird: Bit silly really, don't ya thunk?
He'll thunk.
Into something hard.
Drew
21st January 2011, 20:27
Hypocrites! Have none of you done something silly with bikes?
Then how are you not dead?
It's a certainty from what you are saying, yet here you are to say it.
It's the chicken and the egg revisited!
pritch
22nd January 2011, 07:53
Problem solved. 2009 Honda Hornet 600 arrived today. Very happy now. Thanks for all the advice and comments.
Technical question:
What colour is the Hornet?
akkadian
22nd January 2011, 16:43
Hornet is Gold. $11k with free extras, seat cover, some mudguard thing etc etc. It's fantastic and the funny thing is I ride more sensibly on this than the CBF. Maybe because I don't need to ring it's neck to get everywhere! Made a thousand profit on the CBF and Honda will loan me a 250 to sit my restricted. Strangely enough they didn't care I was on a learners when I turned up with cash. It's a great great bike at an excellent price. Recommend to anyone interested in something comfortable and easy to ride.
Latte
22nd January 2011, 16:47
You haven't died yet, amazing!
:wait:
Gibbo89
23rd January 2011, 12:54
Recommend to anyone interested in something comfortable and easy to ride.
You mean like a cbf250?
akkadian
2nd February 2011, 17:31
You mean like a cbf250?
Well just got back from 10 days of riding in the South Island and yep it's as easy to ride as a CBF250 but far far far more comfortable. 750kms a day and while I ache a bit (cos I'm old!) it's far more comfortable travelling at the speed limit. Not so good on the fuel economy front though. Go figure!
Drew
2nd February 2011, 18:12
Well just got back from 10 days of riding in the South Island and yep it's as easy to ride as a CBF250 but far far far more comfortable. 750kms a day and while I ache a bit (cos I'm old!) it's far more comfortable travelling at the speed limit. Not so good on the fuel economy front though. Go figure!
Someone has hacked into akkadian's account!
It's not possible for him to still be alive since keyboard jockeys say he lacks the skills and restraint to ride anything other than a 250!
I demand to know what action is being taken to ensure my privacy!!!
ducatilover
2nd February 2011, 19:13
Someone has hacked into akkadian's account!
It's not possible for him to still be alive since keyboard jockeys say he lacks the skills and restraint to ride anything other than a 250!
I demand to know what action is being taken to ensure my privacy!!!
Get in my van.
:blink:
akkadian
18th February 2011, 18:46
Someone has hacked into akkadian's account!
It's not possible for him to still be alive since keyboard jockeys say he lacks the skills and restraint to ride anything other than a 250!
I demand to know what action is being taken to ensure my privacy!!!
LMAO. Thanks for the proper riders response to my posts Drew. And yes I'm still alive but sigh, looking to sell the Hornet for a CBR 1000RR now. Will it ever end....
GPXchick
18th February 2011, 18:50
Hi try a suzuki gsx or kawasaki zzr or gpx like mine. Quick and great to control
Drew
18th February 2011, 19:01
Will it ever end....
Nope, there's always something better.
The Everlasting
18th February 2011, 20:03
Hi try a suzuki gsx or kawasaki zzr or gpx like mine. Quick and great to control
Umm he got a Honda hornet 600............
R-Soul
22nd November 2012, 15:58
considering most late model diesel utes will see off 100 in under 8 seconds, sounds like you can't drive either. or maybe your 2.2L VTEC front wheel drive was just a POS.
maybe i've just been spoiled by 0-100 in 3 seconds for too long.
Geez the latest Golf GTi's do 0-100 in about 6-7 sec's.
The newest Z4's in aout 5,5 sec's, and Feerraris and Lambo's in about 4-5 secs. Only hypercars get anywhere close to the 2,5 - 3 seconds of a modern liter sportsbike.
Jantar
22nd November 2012, 16:08
And the prize for the most pointless thread dredge goes to ........
Geez the latest Golf GTi's do 0-100 in about 6-7 sec's....etc etc. .
R-Soul
22nd November 2012, 16:39
Nope not interested in corners, there aren't any on my ride to work, but maybe that's just because of what I'm riding. As to being a boy racer, HELL YEAH! Can't see the purpose in riding if it's not a thrill a minute. If the pulse aint racing then i may as well be sitting in a car. Bought the bike as a fun toy. It's not. There's no mystery to the riding thing. Same defensive driving skills I've been using on four wheels for the past 42 years of driving, just more ramifications if you fark it up.
You are wrong. Go the track and try taking some corners fast. Car defensive driving skills wont help you a jot, and I promise you that you will have more fun than going in a straight line.
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