What's really happening to our world? Alternative opinions abound!

[oldrider]

Thought you (some of you anyway) might like to have a look around this site.

Some interesting side clips if you follow them too!

http://climatechange.imva.info/news/warned

I just enjoy reading and looking around these sites, not sure what to make of some of the theories though! :facepalm:

Scary stuff, some of it! :shit:

[riffer]

Sounds to me like we need a "War Against Weather"...

[riffer]

On the other hand, maybe it's the Iranians....

or the North Koreans...

or Alien Technology...

or just a blip.

You know, when I was a kid they were predicting the return of an Ice Age sometime around now.

Maybe the climate change is going completely the opposite direction that they thought and it's like a wobbling spinning top, that we thought was going to fall one way just before it fell the other way.

Nice weather in Welly today but. :yes:

[imdying]

There's only one thing happening, it's called over population.

[Ronin]

Gotta love this at the end though.



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[firefighter]

There is a glitch in the matrix

[scissorhands]

At Piha last week I saw and grabbed some 'angel hair' as it floated past on the breeze. I was gob smacked all day and no idea what it was, till I got home and googled 'cobweb substance floating air'.

Mainstream science says its spider webs but it was floating toward me from the sea! May have been blown out to sea on the evening offshore wind, then come back with the afternoon sea breeze. Very wide threads though, would have to have been a mother of a spider. I'm 95% certain it was not a NZ spider threads due to its width.

What the hell makes 'angel hair'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_hair_%28folklore%29

[rainman]

http://climatechange.imva.info/news/warned

I just enjoy reading and looking around these sites, not sure what to make of some of the theories though!

I tried, I honestly did. But there are too many logical errors per sq. cm of text and my brain asploded.

In other words, it's the biggest heaping pile of steaming dung I have seen all week, and if you take any of it as being anything but the ramblings of Yet Another Internet F'wit you are doing yourself a disservice.

[mashman]

A picture says a thousand words. An alternative.

http://www.maancheno.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/nibiru_orbit.jpg

Venus, which is earth "sized", spins backwards, the only planet in our solar system that does (and is hypothesised to have had a moon). Was this due to Nirubu (Planet X(10), or not since pluto was declassified, who cares), anyway, Venus could be spinning backwards due to the effects of Niburu on one of its passes.

That being the case, and if Earth undergoes a similar process, could that be: slowing of currents, changing of seasons, hotter for longer, colder for longer etc...?

[pzkpfw]

A picture doesn't actually explain how that would happen.

[ajturbo]

Gotta love this at the end though.

but you have lots of lovely sheep out your back door...:yes:

[oldrider]

I tried, I honestly did. But there are too many logical errors per sq. cm of text and my brain asploded.

In other words, it's the biggest heaping pile of steaming dung I have seen all week, and if you take any of it as being anything but the ramblings of Yet Another Internet F'wit you are doing yourself a disservice.

Settle petal, I simply read, I do not plead, I just look around I didn't ask you to believe anything, that's what your own mind is for FFS!

Read the title again, "alternative opinions abound" so many men, so many opinions! :facepalm:

[schrodingers cat]

I tried, I honestly did. But there are too many logical errors per sq. cm of text and my brain asploded.

In other words, it's the biggest heaping pile of steaming dung I have seen all week, and if you take any of it as being anything but the ramblings of Yet Another Internet F'wit you are doing yourself a disservice.

Agree Rainman. My 10 cents worth to the thread starter
http://murdeltas.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/you-just-have-internet-access.png

Anyhoo, off to water my crystals and realign my pyramid

[mashman]

Settle petal, I simply read, I do not plead, I just look around I didn't ask you to believe anything, that's what your own mind is for FFS!

Read the title again, "alternative opinions abound" so many men, so many opinions! :facepalm:

aye, nobody actually knows for sure. It may as well be a Planet (Niburu) or Asteroid (Some huge rock, it has happened before) as it could be Volcanoes (Iceland) and Earthquakes (Cumbria UK and closer to home), Floods (Oz) and Food shortages (er er er affected by everything), Downpours and Mudslides (recent California weather)...

Human driven or Naturally occuring, atmospheric changes or "External" influences (Sun). What a waste :yes:

[ellipsis]

...when we talk of our world, is it the one where, through some aberration of genetics , a bunch of upright walking sentients think that all around them is really part of THEIR world or, the one that is just a big rock hurtling through space and all living things hanging off it are just along for the ride...

[oldrider]

Agree Rainman. My 10 cents worth to the thread starter

Never claimed to be any of the above except the last one, all I asked is "what is really happening to our world"?

Why don't you read the title properly before you rant off about the poster!

My point is that there are so many claims of what's going on in our world and some of them are a bit scary if you take any notice of them!

I still find it interesting, "having access to the internet" is OK by me!

Feel better now? :finger:

[Bren]

In his letter Dr. Casey continued saying, “The Earth has been in a long term cooling trend technically for eleven years. The significant drop in global temperatures that also occurred between January 2007 and much of 2008 should have been enough for most observers to finally accept that global warming is over, except that this information was intentionally not passed on to the American people. Also and unfortunately, the Presidential campaign where both major parties continued to beat the drum of global warming and man made climate change only helped to cement in the flawed concept that mankind was more powerful and had more influence on the Earth’s climate than the Sun itself.

Good....no more Global Warming Bullshit.....


Anyway....it wont matter after 2012

[sinfull]

There is only one certainty in my life,
I am going to die !


I just hope i gets to see mother come and wash it all away !

[schrodingers cat]

Feel better now?

Do you?

For every claim there is a counterclaim.
Its all noise on noise

Have a nice day

[george formby]

At Piha last week I saw and grabbed some 'angel hair' as it floated past on the breeze. I was gob smacked all day and no idea what it was, till I got home and googled 'cobweb substance floating air'.

Mainstream science says its spider webs but it was floating toward me from the sea! May have been blown out to sea on the evening offshore wind, then come back with the afternoon sea breeze. Very wide threads though, would have to have been a mother of a spider. I'm 95% certain it was not a NZ spider threads due to its width.

What the hell makes 'angel hair'



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_hair_%28folklore%29

Quite a few types of spiders have colonised Pacific islands by casting "nets" into the wind & literally floating on the breeze to another island.
Been a BBC doco on telly lately about the South Pacific.........

And as far as climate change etc is concerned I'm beginning to think it's just situation normal really. The last 50'000 years have been unusually geologically stable & a number of scientists reason that this has allowed humanity to take such huge strides. The planet is just waking up, nothing we can do about it.

[Pixie]

All the freezing weather in the Northern hemisphere is due to Global Warming......er.......

[rainman]

All the freezing weather in the Northern hemisphere is due to Global Warming......er.......

Science works in mysterious ways, grasshopper.

[Jantar]

All the freezing weather in the Northern hemisphere is due to Global Warming......er.......
You are correct. Just as globull warming was responsible for the polar conditions in South America last winter, with near freezing temperatures near the equator.

[Jantar]

I should add that earlier this month I attended a Hydrology conference where one of the main foci was looking at the effects of Climate Change on hydrology.

I was fortunate to spend some time in a one-on-one discussion with one of the lead authors of the IPPC 4th assesment report. It was interseting that when we looked at where we agreed and disagreed, we were almost 100% in agreement on the causes of temperature changes, less so on the follow on climatic effects, but still over 80% in agreement. Where we disagreed was on the value of coefficients, the value of sensitivity and the degree and sign of feedbacks. He confirmed that the final IPCC reports do not reflect the science, but do reflect the politics.

In contrast, most warmists on this site do not look at the science (although they claim to), but do follow the political line.

However that may all be moot now as I showed recently in the thread on Globull Warming.

[Motu]

The IPPC reports are a load of utter crap,but the IPCC reports really are correct in their conclusions.Personally I'm waiting for the IPCP reports,then we will know for sure.

[puddytat]

Global Warming is the wrong term to choose methinks, Climate Channge is a way betterer term as it accounts for & includes wild extremes in temperature, UP & Down...
Global warming is also a media friendly term, much nicer & easier for the "great unwashed" to imagine a nice warm future instead of a freezing cold one & also less likely to incite mass hysteria maybe?
My hypothesis is that what happens in the Northern hemisphere will follow in the Southern.....Skiing in May June anyone? We had a 2mth early summer & I prophesise a Wet summer leading to poor crop yields along the lines of Europe's last summer:corn:
Time will tell.

[scissorhands]

Quite a few types of spiders have colonised Pacific islands by casting "nets" into the wind & literally floating on the breeze to another island.
Been a BBC doco on telly lately about the South Pacific.........

No spiders have been seen near or on 'angel hair'
In a short time, angel hair disappears to nothing. Spider webs do not.

Aint it funny how people believe the shit they read, because it comes from a reliable source, and the other explanations are beyond our present acceptable reality, and in the too hard basket to comprehend or assimilate? meh

[Edbear]

There is only one certainty in my life,
I am going to die...!

Are you certain about that...? :innocent:


Gotta love this at the end though.

Eh, you're not suggesting he wants to sell something...? :gob:


Settle petal, I simply read, I do not plead, I just look around I didn't ask you to believe anything, that's what your own mind is for FFS!

Read the title again, "alternative opinions abound" so many men, so many opinions! :facepalm:

Bit like KB really... :innocent:


...when we talk of our world, is it the one where, through some aberration of genetics , a bunch of upright walking sentients think that all around them is really part of THEIR world or, the one that is just a big rock hurtling through space and all living things hanging off it are just along for the ride...

Well, it's really a bit of a mission to hop off and pick another ride... :yes:

[oldrider]

When you consider the size of "existence", (for the want of a better explanation) how delicately poised it is and what little control we have over any of it, it's understandable why the "Chicken Little fraternity" go into panic mode every now and then! :shit:

[sinfull]

Are you certain about that...? :innocent:



: egregiously and abhorrently however I forfend

[Virago]

egregiously and abhorrently however I forfend

Someone got a new dictionary for Christmas, and ate it at one sitting.

Big words taste better when lightly seasoned with punctuation and grammar...:p

[scissorhands]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfd0_7BcU-0

[george formby]

No spiders have been seen near or on 'angel hair'
In a short time, angel hair disappears to nothing. Spider webs do not.

Aint it funny how people believe the shit they read, because it comes from a reliable source, and the other explanations are beyond our present acceptable reality, and in the too hard basket to comprehend or assimilate? meh

I watched the vid of a wee spider going paragliding, it was only a suggestion..

How about algae in sea spume forming chains caused by the effect of wind, becoming light enough to get airborne & continuing to stretch as they are blown shoreward forming the angel hair described?
I just made that up but in the absence of any other ideas i like it.:yes: Their is certainly enough energy on the west coast to allow something like this.

[puddytat]

Could be a parallel universe,Quantum physics thing...the more people believe in something the more they will make decisions because of that belief & the more likely we'll get what we imagine...:blink:

[Mudfart]

well sucking the oil out of the earth can't ever be a good thing, surely it was there for a reason, and apparently after we suck a well dry, they fill it with sand and water.
Ever tried substituting a lubricant for sand and water?

[Mudfart]

Someone got a new dictionary for Christmas, and ate it at one sitting.

Big words taste better when lightly seasoned with punctuation and grammar...:p

no point saying something noone understands.

[sinfull]

no point saying something noone understands.

Would "honda riders are gay and think the earth needs lube too" work better

[Mudfart]

you think i bought a honda coz i love hondas?, i like all bikes.
perhaps some look more stylish than others, but its whatever you as the rider wants.
i got fuckin good value and ponies for my dollar i reckon.
ever heard of the grand design? nothing in nature and the laws therein has ever been designed to serve no purpose whatsoever.
sofar ive owned a kwaka, 2x suzuks, and now the honda.
i plan on owning a tractor, a duc, another suzuki, and hopefully a norton in the next 10 years.
check december issue of motorcycle trader, top ten bikes of the decade.
number 10 is the VTR, and yes it does drop knickers.

[puddytat]

.
number 10 is the VTR, and yes it does drop knickers.

Is that youre idea of a "10" above this?:facepalm:

[scissorhands]

Nothing has changed. Warlords vie for power employing ever more complex tools of force during war and manipulation during peace.

The masses are still used as pseudo cannon fodder, experimented on, conditioned and used much like slaves to build the brave new world.

Ratio of renegade system knockers vrs house nigger whores of Babylon are roughly the same as always, though a current passive genocide similar to the Chinese cultural revolution is taking place now.

Instead of being killed in their beds, a slow deterioration will reside, preventing a phoenix like martyr appearing to the confused masses, sitting on the fence of corruption and gifts on one side, or truth and suffering on the other.:shutup:

[puddytat]

Speaking of the Chinese cultural revolution, I personally think they are in the process of a new one.....the Chinese financial revolution.
We dont need to worry about being physically overrun by them any longer, they'll just need to wait to the day they decide to forclose on all the bankrupt countries that theyre either lending to, or cash in the bonds theyre taking up as well....
Personally I think they'd make better overlords as they have a very strong culture & are all singing the same song, unlike the West. We tend to follow the Mantra of Me Me Me, they sing Us Us Us.
:corn:

[Pixie]

I should add that earlier this month I attended a Hydrology conference where one of the main foci was looking at the effects of Climate Change on hydrology.

I was fortunate to spend some time in a one-on-one discussion with one of the lead authors of the IPPC 4th assesment report. It was interseting that when we looked at where we agreed and disagreed, we were almost 100% in agreement on the causes of temperature changes, less so on the follow on climatic effects, but still over 80% in agreement. Where we disagreed was on the value of coefficients, the value of sensitivity and the degree and sign of feedbacks. He confirmed that the final IPCC reports do not reflect the science, but do reflect the politics.

In contrast, most warmists on this site do not look at the science (although they claim to), but do follow the political line.

However that may all be moot now as I showed recently in the thread on Globull Warming.
Did you agree on the value of U.N. and government grants and research positions for Climate Change research?

[Pixie]

Global Warming is the wrong term to choose methinks, Climate Channge is a way betterer term as it accounts for & includes wild extremes in temperature, UP & Down...
Global warming is also a media friendly term, much nicer & easier for the "great unwashed" to imagine a nice warm future instead of a freezing cold one & also less likely to incite mass hysteria maybe?
My hypothesis is that what happens in the Northern hemisphere will follow in the Southern.....Skiing in May June anyone? We had a 2mth early summer & I prophesise a Wet summer leading to poor crop yields along the lines of Europe's last summer:corn:
Time will tell.
Yeah they changed the name when they started to get predictions for cooler temperatures over the next 30 years and they saw their future incomes shriveling up and blowing away.

[Jantar]

Did you agree on the value of U.N. and government grants and research positions for Climate Change research?

We didn't even start to go down that track.

But this comment may be interesting from http://www.drroyspencer.com/


Twice I have testified in congress that unbiased funding on the subject of the causes of warming would be much closer to a reality if 50% of that money was devoted to finding natural reasons for climate change. Currently, that kind of research is almost non-existent.