Wanganui programme?

[TK3]

Hey does anyone have a race shedule for today???

[crazzed]

Hey does anyone have a race shedule for today???

http://www.speedbox.tv/content/2010-cemetery-circuit-live-stream

live coverage no programme

[TK3]

yeah I'm watchingit but wanted to know when the big racers were.:facepalm:

[lostinflyz]

http://www.ctas.co.nz/WebscreenTriSeries.aspx

in the bottom left there is a toggle schedule button and itll show the race order and approx. start time.

[Gremlin]

As per programme handed out at Hampton Downs:
10:00 F3 Sportsbikes Q2
10:10 450 Moto Q2
10:20 Bears Q2
10:30 F1 Sidecars Q2
10:40 600 Supers Q2
11:00 Pre '89 R1
11:15 Classic Sidecars R1
11:30 Supermoto R1
11:45 F1 Superbikes R1 (10 laps)
12:05 F3 Sportbikes R1
12:20 450 Moto R1
12:35 Bears R1
12:50 F1 Sidecar R1
13:05 600 Supers R1
13:20 Pre '89 R2
13:35 Classic Sidecars R2
13:50 Super Moto R2
14:05 F1 Superbikes R2 (10 laps)
14:25 F3 Sportbikes R2
14:40 450 Moto R2
15:10 F1 Sidecars R2
15:25 600 Supers R2
15:40 Kiwi Rider Super Motard Invitational
15:55 Robert Holden Invitational (15 laps)
16:25 Sidecar Invitational (10 laps)

All races 8 laps, unless otherwise specified

[crazzed]

yeah I'm watchingit but wanted to know when the big racers were.:facepalm:

predictions for F1

Stroud
Chop
Cole

theres mine

[TK3]

Hmmm

Cole
Stroud
Chop

[Wingnut]

Hmmm

Cole
Stroud
Chop

Yep - Nick Cole will be hard to beat there.

[TK3]

holy crashes galore in the 2nd superbike race, hayden, nick, and robbie all down in turn 1

[crazzed]

holy crashes galore in the 2nd superbike race, hayden, nick, and robbie all down in turn 1

what were the finishing places missed it loading for tomorrow

[Gremlin]

Everything was delayed approx 2 hours. Combination of crashes and other issues, so final sidecar and motard race was canned.

Missed more action from the motards :weep:

[Kickaha]

Everything was delayed approx 2 hours.

Sounds pretty standard, last year wasn't much better but they did get through the whole program

[White trash]

If those retards could keep it upright, I'm sure the program would have run close to schedule.

Who'd have thunk it, a fricken Aussie on his first visit to the place cleans up!

The wogs owned the motards again and were spectacular as ever.

Only a moron would have bet against Sketchy and he impressed as always.

Steve and Dennis showed the way on the modern rig but the standout had to be the classic sidecars. That was some fantastic racing and sideway action.

[Shaun]

If those retards could keep it upright, I'm sure the program would have run close to schedule.

Who'd have thunk it, a fricken Aussie on his first visit to the place cleans up!...

And the out write lLAP RECORD!!!!!! Suspension built by OUR friend who I am an agent for these days for the road market rider

[gixerracer]

And the out write lLAP RECORD!!!!!! Suspension built by OUR friend who I am an agent for these days for the road market rider

Dan was amazing he rode that thing so hard but he did not break the lap record his best was a 49.3 which has been the norm the last few years Andrew Stroud has lap record from Robert Holden race in 2006 at 49.0:scooter:

[White trash]

Dan was amazing he rode that thing so hard but he did not break the lap record his best was a 49.3 which has been the norm the last few years Andrew Stroud has lap record from Robert Holden race in 2006 at 49.0:scooter:

Had to bail early man, sorry didn't get to see your later races. Nice to see ya relaxed and smiling again. Thanks for signing my T-shirt:love:

[gixerracer]

Had to bail early man, sorry didn't get to see your later races. Nice to see ya relaxed and smiling again. Thanks for signing my T-shirt:love:

Anything for u james u no that. Yea i was relaxed i think that expalins my piss poor day haha

[White trash]

Anything for u james u no that. Yea i was relaxed i think that expalins my piss poor day haha

Fuck it bro, if you're not fighting for a championship, what's the point in over riding it? Better to go out and have fun. You carved through the pack from a comparitively average start position (for you). Couple of thirds, a fun day and a shiney bike at the end of it is nothing to be sneezed at. Just do some mean wheelies next time will ya?

[Tony.OK]

Was watching online (great coverage by speedbox too).

Hows Hayden, was he injured in that race 2 1st corner incident?

Well done to all the riders and organisers :yes:

[Robert Taylor]

Fuck it bro, if you're not fighting for a championship, what's the point in over riding it? Better to go out and have fun. You carved through the pack from a comparitively average start position (for you). Couple of thirds, a fun day and a shiney bike at the end of it is nothing to be sneezed at. Just do some mean wheelies next time will ya?

Andrew was riding for a championship too which is why his rides were calculated, why he wasnt circulating at his lap record pace and why he settled for high placings rather than an outright win. Like most of the seasoned competitors he knows only too damn well that the street circuits are very dangerous and he is therefore averse to sticking his kneck out too far. If we look forward to Paeroa I think you will see fewer top competitors there given the real safety issues.
Congratulations to everyone for competing. Also congratulations to all CKT customers including the 3 major Tri Series championship winners and major placegetters , Andrew Stroud, Sloan Frost,Glen Skatchill, Denis Charlett, Terry Fitzgerald, Geoff Booth, Daniel Kempthorne etc etc
Dont count out Craig being a fierce competitor at the Nationals. And best wishes to Robbie for a speedy recovery having been the innocent victim of a silly accident.

[Robert Taylor]

Dan was amazing he rode that thing so hard but he did not break the lap record his best was a 49.3 which has been the norm the last few years Andrew Stroud has lap record from Robert Holden race in 2006 at 49.0:scooter:

Thats right, Stauffers performance owes more to his undoubted and well proven abilities and willingness to take it right to the very edge. By comparison the Canadian guy on a similiar bike was mid-pack. If they were racing on a succession of national circuits with higher speed loads and more tyre stress then any shortcomings would be more readily apparent.
F3 was another case in point, Scott Moir really shone on a powerful little bike with near stock suspension ( he had rejected modified stock suspension built by someone else because it was simply terrible ) He rode the absolute wheels off it on a basically point squirt circuit and congrats to him! But the limitations of that bike will be apparent at closed course circuits unless the suspension gets sorted.

[nadroj]

Scott Moir.

[nick2slow]

Dan was amazing he rode that thing so hard but he did not break the lap record his best was a 49.3 which has been the norm the last few years Andrew Stroud has lap record from Robert Holden race in 2006 at 49.0:scooter:

mehhh 49.3 was done by some green boat in the first race when the grip was crap.

[Bren_chch]

ugghh - what happened in the 1st corner... race 2, who was invloved?

[Shaun]

Dan was amazing he rode that thing so hard but he did not break the lap record his best was a 49.3 which has been the norm the last few years Andrew Stroud has lap record from Robert Holden race in 2006 at 49.0:scooter:

MY BAD, I thought I heard the announcer say that he had Broken the lap record. Still, not bad for Dan and Nick cole to both do 49.3 on standard front end modifications. A hell of a lot cheaper than after market complete internal modifications, ( And is built in New Zealand by NZ Workers keeping them employed) and there would NOT be an every day road rider out there who could use this set up to the limits they pushed it too.

[nadroj]

Anyone know what bike / number / class Andrew Nelson was riding?
Pm me

[crazzed]

Anyone know what bike / number / class Andrew Nelson was riding?
Pm me

check out my laps for results

[jellywrestler]

Anyone know what bike / number / class Andrew Nelson was riding?
Pm me
Yamaha R1 N formula one

[White trash]

mehhh 49.3 was done by some green boat in the first race when the grip was crap.

You forgot it was ridden by some fat cunt.

Fucken CONGRATULATIONS on the little one by the way man, I assume that was your cutie you were pushing around in the pram? Unless you nicked off with one of Strouds of course, they're unlikely to miss just one.......

[CHOPPA]

Interesting reading, I like the Tri Series formula. Basically your only restricted by the engine size you have. There is no talk about bikes being illigal etc, there is no real sign of check book racing. Maybe if the nats were the same rules then people would be more inclined to invest in high priced items like forks etc but its good to see modified suspenders vs aftermarket suspenders, standard engines vs built engines. Its up to people where they spend there limited funds and the results all pan out pretty even some suit some tracks better then others

[gixerracer]

Interesting reading, I like the Tri Series formula. Basically your only restricted by the engine size you have. There is no talk about bikes being illigal etc, there is no real sign of check book racing. Maybe if the nats were the same rules then people would be more inclined to invest in high priced items like forks etc but its good to see modified suspenders vs aftermarket suspenders, standard engines vs built engines. Its up to people where they spend there limited funds and the results all pan out pretty even some suit some tracks better then others

Too a point I agree with you here chop, the formula is great but I dont think it would be good for the Nationals as Suzuki would build a couple of missiles with trick front ends brakes and swingarms light weight wheels and then nobody would have a chance of competing for the win which would kind of ruin the class.
I would like to see something similar to superstock but run full pipes ecu wiring looms power commanders etc but engines completley stock

[Robert Taylor]

MY BAD, I thought I heard the announcer say that he had Broken the lap record. Still, not bad for Dan and Nick cole to both do 49.3 on standard front end modifications. A hell of a lot cheaper than after market complete internal modifications, ( And is built in New Zealand by NZ Workers keeping them employed) and there would NOT be an every day road rider out there who could use this set up to the limits they pushed it too.

On the basis of one stop go street circuit, and the advantages of those terrible nasty aftermarket parts were very apparent on a circuit like Hampton Downs as they will be at other road circuits. Id lay money on it that Dan Stauffer goes back to Australia and continues to run well fettled aftermarket suspension as he will well know the limitations of modified stock suspension on purpose built road race courses. Its fortunate for him that the Holden Memorial race was shortened and that Andrew was more aware of self mortality on a circuit with no run off. The lap record stands at 49 seconds dead and Id say that if Dan had full pedigree aftermarket suspension hed have been in the 48s with the way he was riding the wheels off the limitations of that bike.Funny how when it suits people they were more than happy to run aftermarket shocks, cartridges, even complete forks and other goodies to win races, break lap records and win national titles. Of course usually other people were paying or heavily subsidising the costs if my long memory serves me correctly.
A couple of years or so back I read an interesting book on Field Marshal Mannerheim, the leader of Finland before, during and after WW2. Ill loan it to anyone who cares to read it. He was a tenacious advocate for his countries survival whilst being squeezed by two tyrannical regimes but he also had a very dark habit of switching sides as it suited him. Irrespective that either of those tyrants ( Hitler or Stalin ) wanted to kill him at various times.
CKT too have embraced the Superstock formula in 600s and we have done more than a few with one rider in particular currently being a front running flag-bearer, but Im not so stupid nor cursed of breathtaking ego to think that he wouldnt be faster with pedigree aftermarket suspension. In fact the amount of re-engineering of stock stuff to make it work properly is more involved than people realise and if done properly more expensive than people realise. Ive seen copies of some sabre rattling e-mails where the author was stating that some mods to 600 rear shocks could be done very cheaply but the recent reality is that the bikes that have had those cheap mods have been quite average in results. Its also funny how much of what has been applied has been from the lessons and technology learnt from working constantly over the years with pedigree aftermarket suspension. And companies such as Race Tech that have run training schools, inevitably creating competitors who have attended such schools. The same brands that people quick of talking but short of first thinking it out properly and logically are all too quick to bag.
As for road bikes note that CKT have three levels of modifications, or four in fact

1) Modify stock valving and springing at low cost, with the caveat if the stock pistons are suitable for revalving.

2) Fit Race Tech internal upgrade components

3) Fit pedigree aftermarket suspension components such as rear shocks and full cartridge kits ( in CKTs case Ohlins, the world market leader by a country mile )

0r 4 ( and for example ) Ohlins rear shock and modified internals

Nothing new in that menu of options or the reality that we tailor the end job to the budget, be it a Bucket or a Superbike.

There are road riders that also want half decent track day suspension control but there are also a lot who want great bump compliance on our high ratio of bumpy roads, an important distinction. Road racing is but a part of the market.

[Rcktfsh]

MY BAD, I thought I heard the announcer say that he had Broken the lap record. .

Also said that Robert Holden died in 1997.

[Bren_chch]

ugghh - what happened in the 1st corner... race 2, who was invloved?

so what happened then? :scooter:

[Dom]

On the basis of one stop go street circuit, and the advantages of those terrible nasty aftermarket parts were very apparent on a circuit like Hampton Downs as they will be at other road circuits. Id lay money on it that Dan Stauffer goes back to Australia and continues to run well fettled aftermarket suspension as he will well know the limitations of modified stock suspension on purpose built road race courses. Its fortunate for him that the Holden Memorial race was shortened and that Andrew was more aware of self mortality on a circuit with no run off. The lap record stands at 49 seconds dead and Id say that if Dan had full pedigree aftermarket suspension hed have been in the 48s with the way he was riding the wheels off the limitations of that bike.Funny how when it suits people they were more than happy to run aftermarket shocks, cartridges, even complete forks and other goodies to win races, break lap records and win national titles. Of course usually other people were paying or heavily subsidising the costs if my long memory serves me correctly.
A couple of years or so back I read an interesting book on Field Marshal Mannerheim, the leader of Finland before, during and after WW2. Ill loan it to anyone who cares to read it. He was a tenacious advocate for his countries survival whilst being squeezed by two tyrannical regimes but he also had a very dark habit of switching sides as it suited him. Irrespective that either of those tyrants ( Hitler or Stalin ) wanted to kill him at various times.
CKT too have embraced the Superstock formula in 600s and we have done more than a few with one rider in particular currently being a front running flag-bearer, but Im not so stupid nor cursed of breathtaking ego to think that he wouldnt be faster with pedigree aftermarket suspension. In fact the amount of re-engineering of stock stuff to make it work properly is more involved than people realise and if done properly more expensive than people realise. Ive seen copies of some sabre rattling e-mails where the author was stating that some mods to 600 rear shocks could be done very cheaply but the recent reality is that the bikes that have had those cheap mods have been quite average in results. Its also funny how much of what has been applied has been from the lessons and technology learnt from working constantly over the years with pedigree aftermarket suspension. And companies such as Race Tech that have run training schools, inevitably creating competitors who have attended such schools. The same brands that people quick of talking but short of first thinking it out properly and logically are all too quick to bag.
As for road bikes note that CKT have three levels of modifications, or four in fact

1) Modify stock valving and springing at low cost, with the caveat if the stock pistons are suitable for revalving.

2) Fit Race Tech internal upgrade components

3) Fit pedigree aftermarket suspension components such as rear shocks and full cartridge kits ( in CKTs case Ohlins, the world market leader by a country mile )

0r 4 ( and for example ) Ohlins rear shock and modified internals

Nothing new in that menu of options or the reality that we tailor the end job to the budget, be it a Bucket or a Superbike.

There are road riders that also want half decent track day suspension control but there are also a lot who want great bump compliance on our high ratio of bumpy roads, an important distinction. Road racing is but a part of the market.

Can I take up your offer and borrow that book off you. I might get time to read it by Nationals if you cut back on posting novels Dr!!!

[gixerracer]

Can I take up your offer and borrow that book off you. I might get time to read it by Nationals if you cut back on posting novels Dr!!!

Pharkn ae men 2 that

[suzuki21]

On the basis of one stop go street circuit, and the advantages of those terrible nasty aftermarket parts were very apparent on a circuit like Hampton Downs as they will be at other road circuits. Id lay money on it that Dan Stauffer goes back to Australia and continues to run well fettled aftermarket suspension as he will well know the limitations of modified stock suspension on purpose built road race courses. Its fortunate for him that the Holden Memorial race was shortened and that Andrew was more aware of self mortality on a circuit with no run off. The lap record stands at 49 seconds dead and Id say that if Dan had full pedigree aftermarket suspension hed have been in the 48s with the way he was riding the wheels off the limitations of that bike.Funny how when it suits people they were more than happy to run aftermarket shocks, cartridges, even complete forks and other goodies to win races, break lap records and win national titles. Of course usually other people were paying or heavily subsidising the costs if my long memory serves me correctly.
A couple of years or so back I read an interesting book on Field Marshal Mannerheim, the leader of Finland before, during and after WW2. Ill loan it to anyone who cares to read it. He was a tenacious advocate for his countries survival whilst being squeezed by two tyrannical regimes but he also had a very dark habit of switching sides as it suited him. Irrespective that either of those tyrants ( Hitler or Stalin ) wanted to kill him at various times.
CKT too have embraced the Superstock formula in 600s and we have done more than a few with one rider in particular currently being a front running flag-bearer, but Im not so stupid nor cursed of breathtaking ego to think that he wouldnt be faster with pedigree aftermarket suspension. In fact the amount of re-engineering of stock stuff to make it work properly is more involved than people realise and if done properly more expensive than people realise. Ive seen copies of some sabre rattling e-mails where the author was stating that some mods to 600 rear shocks could be done very cheaply but the recent reality is that the bikes that have had those cheap mods have been quite average in results. Its also funny how much of what has been applied has been from the lessons and technology learnt from working constantly over the years with pedigree aftermarket suspension. And companies such as Race Tech that have run training schools, inevitably creating competitors who have attended such schools. The same brands that people quick of talking but short of first thinking it out properly and logically are all too quick to bag.
As for road bikes note that CKT have three levels of modifications, or four in fact

1) Modify stock valving and springing at low cost, with the caveat if the stock pistons are suitable for revalving.

2) Fit Race Tech internal upgrade components

3) Fit pedigree aftermarket suspension components such as rear shocks and full cartridge kits ( in CKTs case Ohlins, the world market leader by a country mile )

0r 4 ( and for example ) Ohlins rear shock and modified internals

Nothing new in that menu of options or the reality that we tailor the end job to the budget, be it a Bucket or a Superbike.

There are road riders that also want half decent track day suspension control but there are also a lot who want great bump compliance on our high ratio of bumpy roads, an important distinction. Road racing is but a part of the market.

I will be brief as I am in a hurry. You dont know shit. Dan rode like he does on ANY BIKE. He likes winning and pushes the boundaries. "Oh no his shock will heat up and fail!" the fucking thing overheats on an R1 before you even get to the start line ps: I heard some fully kitted suspension bikes had front end problems, Dan was really radical and wanted 1/2 a turn of preload put on after race one. Kept me busy all day doing that. Fuck he is hard work.

[gixerracer]

I will be brief as I am in a hurry. You dont know shit. Dan rode like he does on ANY BIKE. He likes winning and pushes the boundaries. "Oh no his shock will heat up and fail!" the fucking thing overheats on an R1 before you even get to the start line ps: I heard some fully kitted suspension bikes had front end problems, Dan was really radical and wanted 1/2 a turn of preload put on after race one. Kept me busy all day doing that. Fuck he is hard work.

BAWhahahaahahahahahahahahahaha hes lucky i didnt try the same radical mod on my super trick kit I may have ben in the 48s then:innocent:

[suzuki21]

BAWhahahaahahahahahahahahahaha hes lucky i didnt try the same radical mod on my super trick kit I may have ben in the 48s then:innocent:

Yeh mate, you would have done 48's on a drag strip. Your bike has wanted to go straight ahead for a couple of weekends now.

[nick2slow]

You forgot it was ridden by some fat cunt.

Fucken CONGRATULATIONS on the little one by the way man, I assume that was your cutie you were pushing around in the pram? Unless you nicked off with one of Strouds of course, they're unlikely to miss just one.......

bah ha ha ha ha ha

[jellywrestler]

Also said that Robert Holden died in 1997.
there were three announcers on the day,I was one of them.
I recall mentioning Roberts demise, year date corner and sponsor maybe you need to give the old ears a cleanout.

[Rcktfsh]

there were three announcers on the day,I was one of them.
I recall mentioning Roberts demise, year date corner and sponsor maybe you need to give the old ears a cleanout.

Twas Ray not you.

[Bren_chch]

Ok i see now....


Shirriffs should by himself a Lotto ticket, after missing the second accident when Christchurch's Ryan Hampton (Honda CBR1000), in a kamikaze charge, tried to burst through the field from the start only to run out of room and crash, sliding past Shirriffs and taking out four frontrunners.

did you buy a lotto ticket?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsport/4498388/Craig-Shirriffs-avoids-carnage-at-Whanganui

[Robert Taylor]

I will be brief as I am in a hurry. You dont know shit. Dan rode like he does on ANY BIKE. He likes winning and pushes the boundaries. "Oh no his shock will heat up and fail!" the fucking thing overheats on an R1 before you even get to the start line ps: I heard some fully kitted suspension bikes had front end problems, Dan was really radical and wanted 1/2 a turn of preload put on after race one. Kept me busy all day doing that. Fuck he is hard work.

Hello Joe Dirt! ( sorry for some reason you remind me of him! )

Here wae our day:

Dennis change the rear spring on Stroudys bike to one better able to absorb Wanganuis bumps.TRI SERIES F1 CHAMPION

We changed the fork oil level in Terry Fitzs bike TRI SERIES F3 CHAMPION

We supplied syringes to Ryan Hampton ( filled with oil not Kamikaze juice )

We added oil to Choppas forks and fitted a softer rear spring 2ND PLACE OVERALL F1 TRI SERIES

We added oil to Glen skatchills forks and change the front and rear clicker settings and preload a little TRI SERIES F2 CHAMPION

We fitted a slightly softer valving spec in Dennis Charletts rear shock, 2ND PLACE OVERALL F2 TRI SERIES

We changed the emulator setting , spring rate and oil level in Daniel Kempthornes Pro Twins spec SV650 as it had turned up with a Manfield setting that was too harsh for Wanganui

Ditto as above for Geoff Booths Pro Twins spec SV650. Please correct me if Im wrong but I think he may have finished 3rd overall in the F3 Tri series

At Haydens request Dennis installed a slightly different front fork valving spec in his compression fork. We installed a spec that we wanted to try for some time as a general test that may be applied to other bikes and his feedback was very positive. Indeed the construction of aftermarket cartridges facilatates much much quicker valving changes than oem stuff ( and I mean MUCH quicker ) and that is why we are not averse to doing so

Craig shirriffs shock was changed to one that had a much more compliant spec suitable for Wanganui., we also fitted a slightly different internal valving spec in his forks and spring rate

ETC, we also looked at bikes that were set up by another guy that the riders were very unhappy with, and made positive suggestions that they were happy with. No money changed hands and WE WILL HELP ANYONE THAT ASKS.

Are these indicative of problems? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Setting changes that wouldnt have been out of place in the environment of MotoGP, WSBK, AMA etc......


Oh, and the following day we consulted by phone on setting changes ( spring rate and clickers only ) for the rear end of Scott Moirs F2 CBR600 to comprehensively win the sprint races at the Taupo meeting. The forks werent touched.

[suzuki21]

Hello Joe Dirt! ( sorry for some reason you remind me of him! )

Here wae our day:

Dennis change the rear spring on Stroudys bike to one better able to absorb Wanganuis bumps.TRI SERIES F1 CHAMPION

We changed the fork oil level in Terry Fitzs bike TRI SERIES F3 CHAMPION

We supplied syringes to Ryan Hampton ( filled with oil not Kamikaze juice )

We added oil to Choppas forks and fitted a softer rear spring 2ND PLACE OVERALL F1 TRI SERIES

We added oil to Glen skatchills forks and change the front and rear clicker settings and preload a little TRI SERIES F2 CHAMPION

We fitted a slightly softer valving spec in Dennis Charletts rear shock, 2ND PLACE OVERALL F2 TRI SERIES

We changed the emulator setting , spring rate and oil level in Daniel Kempthornes Pro Twins spec SV650 as it had turned up with a Manfield setting that was too harsh for Wanganui

Ditto as above for Geoff Booths Pro Twins spec SV650. Please correct me if Im wrong but I think he may have finished 3rd overall in the F3 Tri series

At Haydens request Dennis installed a slightly different front fork valving spec in his compression fork. We installed a spec that we wanted to try for some time as a general test that may be applied to other bikes and his feedback was very positive. Indeed the construction of aftermarket cartridges facilatates much much quicker valving changes than oem stuff ( and I mean MUCH quicker ) and that is why we are not averse to doing so

Craig shirriffs shock was changed to one that had a much more compliant spec suitable for Wanganui., we also fitted a slightly different internal valving spec in his forks and spring rate

ETC, we also looked at bikes that were set up by another guy that the riders were very unhappy with, and made positive suggestions that they were happy with. No money changed hands and WE WILL HELP ANYONE THAT ASKS.

Are these indicative of problems? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Setting changes that wouldnt have been out of place in the environment of MotoGP, WSBK, AMA etc......


Oh, and the following day we consulted by phone on setting changes ( spring rate and clickers only ) for the rear end of Scott Moirs F2 CBR600 to comprehensively win the sprint races at the Taupo meeting. The forks werent touched.

I have never doubted the hard work you Dennis and the bike crews do at the track Robert, but Dan still kicked arse.

[suzuki21]

And I consider being likened to Joe Dirt a complement, but I have lost my mullay and have short hair now!

[Robert Taylor]

I have never doubted the hard work you Dennis and the bike crews do at the track Robert, but Dan still kicked arse.

Yes indeed he went well but I am not unfairly pointing out the hypocrisy of others intimating that a lot of it was down to the suspension, when in fact he would have easily got into the 48s on pedigree aftermarket suspension. If it was all down to the suspension that Canadian guy would have been right up there as well. Clearly the same stuff wasnt up to the task at HD.
And I again repeat that Scott Moirs performance in F3 was brilliant, using suspension that needs a lot of work.
And takes Robbies performance, extreme caution as he wanted to be injury free for the Nationals, sadly that strategy didnt work as he found himself in the firing line. Andrew and Craig were riding with similiar reserve as they have bigger fish to fry.

[Robert Taylor]

And I consider being likened to Joe Dirt a complement, but I have lost my mullay and have short hair now!

Well youve still got a little more than me!

[suzuki21]

ETC, we also looked at bikes that were set up by another guy that the riders were very unhappy with, and made positive suggestions that they were happy with. No money changed hands and WE WILL HELP ANYONE THAT ASKS.

mmmmmmmmm, someone told me in the weekend they wanted too butt fuck you with a pineapple because of the job you done for them and they werent happy. I told them that because of the consumer guarantee act they should approach you, sort it out, and you will see them right.
Slagging other tuners of isnt bussiness like. I like slagging you off cos its fun and it gets you going.

[White trash]

FFS. If you technical cunts can't work out how to remove a HMTL fuckup, don't bother quoting each other. It's confusing as fuck and just makes you look like retards.

Robert. You're going to have to accept, there's another tuner out there. And like him or hate him (I fucken hate his guts), his riders have made a choice and regretably (for you and me) some of them are doing very well.

Suzuki21. Dan did awesome, I wish I had a fraction of the talent he has so I could breed up and coming Rossi reps, left right and centre. The fact remains of his suspension guru, he's a lying arsehole (albeit a clever one). Did he tell you the story about how he pressured me into crashing an R1, despite turning up 3 minutes after everyone else and then leaving first to "give everyone a hiding over the hill"? I suggest you ask him, it's funny as fuck.

And finally, Craig likes boys. That's why he signed my shirt.

You guys are worse than three year old kids at kindy arguing over who's dad is best.

"Mine's a butcher, he cuts up dead cows ALLLLL day"

"Yeah well mine's a truck driver, he takes load of cows to be slaughtered....."

"Yeah but mine used to be a traffic cop and he gives your dad all the tickets so he can't afford Christmas presents....."

"Yeah well my dad's the Prime Minister and I'll tell him to stop paying your dad..."

"YEAH?! Well my dad's Kerry Dukie and he told half the country how he beat a few nobodies over the Rimutakas on a Thursday night......"

Don't get me started on Veitnam............. Where's Pussy when you need him......

[Robert Taylor]

ETC, we also looked at bikes that were set up by another guy that the riders were very unhappy with, and made positive suggestions that they were happy with. No money changed hands and WE WILL HELP ANYONE THAT ASKS.

mmmmmmmmm, someone told me in the weekend they wanted too butt fuck you with a pineapple because of the job you done for them and they werent happy. I told them that because of the consumer guarantee act they should approach you, sort it out, and you will see them right.
Slagging other tuners of isnt bussiness like. I like slagging you off cos its fun and it gets you going.

It kind of helps to be aware of the dark side of other peoples natures. Website domain registrations spring to mind, not illegal but VERY dirty. Also bagging TTX products irrespective that worldwide they are the winningest shock in road racing, but at the same time parallell importing a few for personal gain. I call that hypocrisy, as would anyone with ethics.
If we ever have an unhappy customer ( and its rare considering we do the lions share of road / road race suspension work ) we will sort it out providing we are told about it. We have more than a few to look after. Road racers are like most competitors protective of their own pride and some but not all are not averse to bagging service providers if their results arent as stellar as they hoped. Irrespective of whether money changed hands or not. Its the same in MX and many sports, in case you hadnt noticed.
Those that are prepared to learn the setting changes/ setup and quietly get on with it are a joy as they are responsible to their own actions.
Glen Skatchill is a good example, sure he is very fast and talented, but hes starting to ask me for changes as he has been like a sponge for experience and can recognise setting changes required for track condition and weather / temperature changes etc.

[suzuki21]

FFS. If you technical cunts can't work out how to remove a HMTL fuckup, don't bother quoting each other. It's confusing as fuck and just makes you look like retards.

Robert. You're going to have to accept, there's another tuner out there. And like him or hate him (I fucken hate his guts), his riders have made a choice and regretably (for you and me) some of them are doing very well.

Suzuki21. Dan did awesome, I wish I had a fraction of the talent he has so I could breed up and coming Rossi reps, left right and centre. The fact remains of his suspension guru, he's a lying arsehole (albeit a clever one). Did he tell you the story about how he pressured me into crashing an R1, despite turning up 3 minutes after everyone else and then leaving first to "give everyone a hiding over the hill"? I suggest you ask him, it's funny as fuck.

And finally, Craig likes boys. That's why he signed my shirt.

You guys are worse than three year old kids at kindy arguing over who's dad is best.

"Mine's a butcher, he cuts up dead cows ALLLLL day"

"Yeah well mine's a truck driver, he takes load of cows to be slaughtered....."

"Yeah but mine used to be a traffic cop and he gives your dad all the tickets so he can't afford Christmas presents....."

"Yeah well my dad's the Prime Minister and I'll tell him to stop paying your dad..."

"YEAH?! Well my dad's Kerry Dukie and he told half the country how he beat a few nobodies over the Rimutakas on a Thursday night......"

Don't get me started on Veitnam............. Where's Pussy when you need him......

haha I like, Kerry told me about a moon landing once, he is the first person to say he tells fibs but if riders/teams choose him because he knows about why a round coily thing goes up and down then it is called LIVING IN A FREE WORLD! FUCK YEAH!

[sidecar bob]

Pussy? He was home today, I been texting him.
This suspension argument is a bit thin. I have a pre '76 bike with forks that have been halfway around the world loaded with touring gear, off a parts R90/6 BMW I bought with over 200km on the clock, & i regularly round up a bloke that has had the Taylor treatment on his forks.
All this means is that if i ever get serious about racing, i will get the same thing as him done to my forks.

[White trash]

Edit: If any of you gay mods pull the HTML tags out of this thread I'll be very unimpressed and you'll make me look like more of a spaz than my riding already suggests. Fuck off, have a beer and enjoy the show.

[Robert Taylor]

FFS. If you technical cunts can't work out how to remove a HMTL fuckup, don't bother quoting each other. It's confusing as fuck and just makes you look like retards.

Robert. You're going to have to accept, there's another tuner out there. And like him or hate him (I fucken hate his guts), his riders have made a choice and regretably (for you and me) some of them are doing very well.

Suzuki21. Dan did awesome, I wish I had a fraction of the talent he has so I could breed up and coming Rossi reps, left right and centre. The fact remains of his suspension guru, he's a lying arsehole (albeit a clever one). Did he tell you the story about how he pressured me into crashing an R1, despite turning up 3 minutes after everyone else and then leaving first to "give everyone a hiding over the hill"? I suggest you ask him, it's funny as fuck.

And finally, Craig likes boys. That's why he signed my shirt.

You guys are worse than three year old kids at kindy arguing over who's dad is best.

"Mine's a butcher, he cuts up dead cows ALLLLL day"

"Yeah well mine's a truck driver, he takes load of cows to be slaughtered....."

"Yeah but mine used to be a traffic cop and he gives your dad all the tickets so he can't afford Christmas presents....."

"Yeah well my dad's the Prime Minister and I'll tell him to stop paying your dad..."

"YEAH?! Well my dad's Kerry Dukie and he told half the country how he beat a few nobodies over the Rimutakas on a Thursday night......"

Don't get me started on Veitnam............. Where's Pussy when you need him......

Thankyou Mr BS eradicator!

[Robert Taylor]

haha I like, Kerry told me about a moon landing once, he is the first person to say he tells fibs but if riders/teams choose him because he knows about why a round coily thing goes up and down then it is called LIVING IN A FREE WORLD! FUCK YEAH!

It would help immensely if you were all very deaf!

[White trash]

haha I like, Kerry told me about a moon landing once, he is the first person to say he tells fibs but if riders/teams choose him because he knows about why a round coily thing goes up and down then it is called LIVING IN A FREE WORLD! FUCK YEAH!

Who's Kerry? The fact you assume to know who I'm talking about suggests he's told you alot more shit than landing on the moon.

[White trash]

Fuck you Virago, you just ruined a perfectly good thread.

[Robert Taylor]

Fuck you Virago, you just ruined a perfectly good thread.

Suffice to say Jimmy I have no time for liars, those that are infirm of purpose, hyocrites and confidence tricksters.

[Virago]

I love you Virago, you're my hero.

You're welcome...:bleh:

[wayne]

he was first to the moon with the russians i was told....................
just forgot the camera.................................

[Pussy]

FFS. If you technical cunts can't work out how to remove a HMTL fuckup, don't bother quoting each other. It's confusing as fuck and just makes you look like retards.

Robert. You're going to have to accept, there's another tuner out there. And like him or hate him (I fucken hate his guts), his riders have made a choice and regretably (for you and me) some of them are doing very well.

Suzuki21. Dan did awesome, I wish I had a fraction of the talent he has so I could breed up and coming Rossi reps, left right and centre. The fact remains of his suspension guru, he's a lying arsehole (albeit a clever one). Did he tell you the story about how he pressured me into crashing an R1, despite turning up 3 minutes after everyone else and then leaving first to "give everyone a hiding over the hill"? I suggest you ask him, it's funny as fuck.

And finally, Craig likes boys. That's why he signed my shirt.

You guys are worse than three year old kids at kindy arguing over who's dad is best.

"Mine's a butcher, he cuts up dead cows ALLLLL day"

"Yeah well mine's a truck driver, he takes load of cows to be slaughtered....."

"Yeah but mine used to be a traffic cop and he gives your dad all the tickets so he can't afford Christmas presents....."

"Yeah well my dad's the Prime Minister and I'll tell him to stop paying your dad..."

"YEAH?! Well my dad's Kerry Dukie and he told half the country how he beat a few nobodies over the Rimutakas on a Thursday night......"

Don't get me started on Veitnam............. Where's Pussy when you need him......

I'm HEEEEERRRREEEE!
Right then.....

Dukie is the biggest bullshit artist that has EVER had breath put in.
It IS a free country... people can choose whoever they like to do stuff for them.

But you're missing the most important bloody thing here, Jimmy!

Who has got the biggest cock????


Edit: Sorry for my late appearance... just had a nice feed of new spuds out of my garden... with beans and ham... and a few Pilseners

[White trash]

Suffice to say Jimmy I have no time for liars, those that are infirm of purpose, hyocrites and confidence tricksters.

Hear hear. And as YOU well know, Mr Taylor, my loyalties are firmly formed and not easily swayed. For that reason I will remain a longstanding customer of CKT's and continually point those who ask for direction your way. Personally, I can't hope to ever repay you for the effort and expense you put behind my own effort to crack the "big time". As an intelligent man, with a great memory, you'll no doubt remember the look on my face and indeed my misgivings when your offsider arrived trackside to assist back in the winter of 2007? He pulled the wool over you too Robert, and I'd place you well ahead of the average road racer in the intelligence stakes.

I have no problem stating this publically as your competitor and I have discussed this. He know's I have little time for him and I'm confident the reverse is more than true. The fact is this. He is far closer to the average road rider than you as he's out riding with them day to day, week to week. He comes accoss as very intelligent, if a little outlandish. Proper bikers see through him in a second and laugh about it at the pub. Less experienced riders do not.

As a smart business man, personally, I'd lay off the publicbullsit about who's ethical and who's not. The simple fact is that in five years time, CKT will still be around picking up the pieces when others simply fail to deliver and run out of stories. I'll still be a customer on that day.

[Pussy]

Hear hear. And as YOU well know, Mr Taylor, my loyalties are firmly formed and not easily swayed. For that reason I will remain a longstanding customer of CKT's and continually point those who ask for direction your way. Personally, I can't hope to ever repay you for the effort and expense you put behind my own effort to crack the "big time". As an intelligent man, with a great memory, you'll no doubt remember the look on my face and indeed my misgivings when your offsider arrived trackside to assist back in the winter of 2007? He pulled the wool over you too Robert, and I'd place you well ahead of the average road racer in the intelligence stakes.

I have no problem stating this publically as your competitor and I have discussed this. He know's I have little time for him and I'm confident the reverse is more than true. The fact is this. He is far closer to the average road rider than you as he's out riding with them day to day, week to week. He comes accoss as very intelligent, if a little outlandish. Proper bikers see through him in a second and laugh about it at the pub. Less experienced riders do not.

As a smart business man, personally, I'd lay off the publicbullsit about who's ethical and who's not. The simple fact is that in five years time, CKT will still be around picking up the pieces when others simply fail to deliver and run out of stories. I'll still be a customer on that day.

I am of the same mind as you on this subject, Jimmy.

You'll find a Reggae band at a Klu Klux Klan meeting before you find me being a customer of the lying wanker.
At the end of the day, though, everyone is free to chose who they get to work on their suspension. I personally think getting the F-4 pilot to do the job is silly... but, hey.... that's only MY opinion

[Pussy]

... but, hey.... that's only MY opinion

Which, by the way, all you bastards are entitled to! :)

[White trash]

Klu Klux Klan is a cunt of a phrase to verbalize. What the fuck were those biggots thinking when they came up with that name?

[Pussy]

Klu Klux Klan is a cunt of a phrase to verbalize. What the fuck were those biggots thinking when they came up with that name?


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[Virago]

Klu Klux Klan is a cunt of a phrase to verbalize. What the fuck were those biggots thinking when they came up with that name?

Verbalise...? You can't even spell Ku Klux Klan...

[White trash]

Verbalize...? You can't even spell it...

Eight woodys donw, I'm onyl litlle. Why the heel would you think I coudl spell?

Had any complaints about my recent Tron thread yet? Don't bullshit me mate, I see through you like pair of Britenay Spears panties.......

[Virago]

Eight woodys donw, I'm onyl litlle...

...Don't bullshit me mate, I see through you like pair of Britenay Spears panties...

No doubt that gives you another woody...?

[White trash]

No doubt that gives you another woody...?

Just cracked one. Thanks for asking........

[jellywrestler]

Verbalise...? You can't even spell Ku Klux Klan...
hey what about Ku Klux Kneivel?
his favourite stunt was jumping eight blacks with a steamroller...

[jellywrestler]

Andrew was riding for a championship too which is why his rides were calculated, why he wasnt circulating at his lap record pace and why he settled for high placings rather than an outright win. Like most of the seasoned competitors he knows only too damn well that the street circuits are very dangerous and he is therefore averse to sticking his kneck out too far. If we look forward to Paeroa I think you will see fewer top competitors there given the real safety issues.
With all due respect to Stroud; Dan Stauffer rode like the wind and deserved his wins well and truely. It's 40 odd years since a newcomer won the big race, Ron Grant from memory although I'd happily be corrected on that.
Stroud has always treated Wanganui with caution, till this year his record of 7 wins, 15 seconds and eleven thirds reflects this.
Go Stauffer and Bernard racing and I hope they find the resources to do the nationals to.
Who knows Stauffer may even still be in NZ then, he and five other passsengers were bumped of a flight to aussie as it was overweight, then he slept in for the next flight; haven't heard whether he's left the country as yet!
Lastly I am not biased, despite being a sponsor of both Stauffer personally and Bernard racing, I just want to see good clean racing.
The three highlights of my day were Stauffers wins, Stauffers wide lines out of suzuki and following passing maneuovres, and in the early stages of the first Formula one race seeing six different brands in the first six places.
That's a treat.

[jellywrestler]

Just cracked one. Thanks for asking........

best you spend some time cleaning it while all the wrinkles are out of it then

[Shaun]

With all due respect to Stroud; Dan Stauffer rode like the wind and deserved his wins well and truely. It's 40 odd years since a newcomer won the big race, Ron Grant from memory although I'd happily be corrected on that.
Stroud has always treated Wanganui with caution, till this year his record of 7 wins, 15 seconds and eleven thirds reflects this.
Go Stauffer and Bernard racing and I hope they find the resources to do the nationals to.
Who knows Stauffer may even still be in NZ then, he and five other passsengers were bumped of a flight to aussie as it was overweight, then he slept in for the next flight; haven't heard whether he's left the country as yet!
Lastly I am not biased, despite being a sponsor of both Stauffer personally and Bernard racing, I just want to see good clean racing.
The three highlights of my day were Stauffers wins, Stauffers wide lines out of suzuki and following passing maneuovres, and in the early stages of the first Formula one race seeing six different brands in the first six places.
That's a treat.



Dukic Performance, fastest 2 bikes around Wanganui ( The Streets) and to top that off, Merkels win the 3 hour ( Congrats boys) ( Closed track) all bikes using STD modified suspension, built here in New Zealand, and cost effective.

Dukic Performance proven Fact!!!! To be fast on the Roads and the Tracks, might not have the history of CKT yet, but he has got his gear on the fast pace very quick, I think a lot of that is to do with the fact he rides bikes also, so understands riders feed back quite well.

[Tony.OK]

Now now kiddies.......play nice:facepalm:

For those interested, I got in touch with Speedbox.tv to find out when coverage would be online, and its going on the www.speedbox.tv site at the end of Jan.

I watched most of the day live online and the coverage was bloody great, camera's at every corner with commentators that seemed to actually know about the riders and bikes hahaa. Worth a look once its up online:yes:

[skilly035]

Steve and Dennis showed the way on the modern rig but the standout had to be the classic sidecars. That was some fantastic racing and sideway action.

Yes, of course. I have some knarly bruises to show how fuckn sideways we were!

[nadroj]

Yes, of course. I have some knarly bruises to show how fuckn sideways we were!

What number? - might have some pics...

[gixerracer]

Dukic Performance, fastest 2 bikes around Wanganui ( The Streets) and to top that off, Merkels win the 3 hour ( Congrats boys) ( Closed track) all bikes using STD modified suspension, built here in New Zealand, and cost effective.

Dukic Performance proven Fact!!!! To be fast on the Roads and the Tracks, might not have the history of CKT yet, but he has got his gear on the fast pace very quick, I think a lot of that is to do with the fact he rides bikes also, so understands riders feed back quite well.

OOOOHHHH come on bob taylor wot u got now:facepalm:

[nadroj]

I used to go fishing with a piece of baling twine knotted at one end........:corn:

[Robert Taylor]

OOOOHHHH come on bob taylor wot u got now:facepalm:

Easy Craig!

Unless I am hugely mistaken many or most of the top riders and their machines ( many that are faster than the Merkel Honda ) did not attend the 3 hour, 16 odd entrants I think. I take nothing away from their win but in the presence of a full complement of competitors at rounds 1 and 2 of the Tri Series that bike was nothing special at all. Set up issues? Limitations of the stock suspension on such circuits?

It has been intimated that I dont ride bikes regularly and that hurts my ability to understand setup. Well in fact Ive been riding bikes since the early 70s and have held a full motorcycle license for just as long. I had a succession of large capacity road bikes and didnt own a car for many years, I also rode in all weather and long distances, so in that time had the essence of being a true motorcyclist. In 1985 I had the big road accident that was lucky not to kill me, comprehensively destroying an RZ500. So a typical story of been there and done that, its just Ive never really broadcast it.

My profession means that I will ride motorcycles several times a week and often they need to be pushed along pretty briskly to expose any weaknesses. I consider myself a competent and highly experienced motorcyce rider and have never ever to anyone overstated my abilities, that sort of chest beating doesnt interest me, especially those that perpetuate their own delusions of grandeur. Sure Ive never raced but instead have spent more time studying chassis and suspension technology. I know a good deal of very competent road racers through the years who are unable to analyse what a machine is doing. Ive also known some who are very good with feedback and sometimes you can get a very sharp and very correct comment from a newbie road racer.

[Robert Taylor]

With all due respect to Stroud; Dan Stauffer rode like the wind and deserved his wins well and truely. It's 40 odd years since a newcomer won the big race, Ron Grant from memory although I'd happily be corrected on that.
Stroud has always treated Wanganui with caution, till this year his record of 7 wins, 15 seconds and eleven thirds reflects this.
Go Stauffer and Bernard racing and I hope they find the resources to do the nationals to.
Who knows Stauffer may even still be in NZ then, he and five other passsengers were bumped of a flight to aussie as it was overweight, then he slept in for the next flight; haven't heard whether he's left the country as yet!
Lastly I am not biased, despite being a sponsor of both Stauffer personally and Bernard racing, I just want to see good clean racing.
The three highlights of my day were Stauffers wins, Stauffers wide lines out of suzuki and following passing maneuovres, and in the early stages of the first Formula one race seeing six different brands in the first six places.
That's a treat.

I absolutely and 100% agree with you about Dans abilities

[Robert Taylor]

Dukic Performance, fastest 2 bikes around Wanganui ( The Streets) and to top that off, Merkels win the 3 hour ( Congrats boys) ( Closed track) all bikes using STD modified suspension, built here in New Zealand, and cost effective.

Dukic Performance proven Fact!!!! To be fast on the Roads and the Tracks, might not have the history of CKT yet, but he has got his gear on the fast pace very quick, I think a lot of that is to do with the fact he rides bikes also, so understands riders feed back quite well.

Correct me if Im wrong but many of the road riders I deal with do not neccessarily wish to travel at higher speeds on the road. They want much more compliance in their suspension and more chassis ride height control.

Thats a pretty shaky start you have got off to if you havent fundamentally recognised that........

[Biggles08]

Does anyone want to buy some really cool CARROZZERIA wheels? They will make a massive difference to how your bike handles. Also...I understand Craig fixes fridges in case anyone needs one fixed.:yes:

[scracha]

OOOOHHHH come on bob taylor wot u got now:facepalm:

http://www.shaunharrismotod.co.nz/images/CKT.PNG

:innocent:

[White trash]

Yes, of course. I have some knarly bruises to show how fuckn sideways we were!

You and Simon were certainly the crowd pleasers this year mate, thanks again for putting on an awesome show. My two girls are still raving on about "the pretty lady doing skids on the orange sidecar"

[Shaun]

Correct me if Im wrong but many of the road riders I deal with do not neccessarily wish to travel at higher speeds on the road. They want much more compliance in their suspension and more chassis ride height control.

Thats a pretty shaky start you have got off to if you havent fundamentally recognised that........



Thanks again Helen

[Robert Taylor]

http://www.shaunharrismotod.co.nz/images/CKT.PNG

:innocent:

It wasnt a refrence about character, sincerity and being honourable was it! Hed best get a new one typed up by ''this weeks'' business association.

[Shaun]

It wasnt a refrence about character, sincerity and being honourable was it! Hed best get a new one typed up by ''this weeks'' business association.


No need to Helen, but thanks for your proffessional attempts at attaching my Character once again! Ho hum

[jellywrestler]

MY BAD, I thought I heard the announcer say that he had Broken the lap record. I'm a little confused on this one as Nick Cole did a 49.334 in the first F1 race and on mylaps is credited with a lap record and the following is copied and pasted from mylaps for the Robert Holden Memorial.
You are correct re the announcer saying there was a new lap record as that's how the info came through to the tower.
I'm picking that the system has a lap record history for the F1 and the Robert Holden Memorial


Announcements

17:50 New Track Record (49.799) for BEARS by Sloan Frost. 17:52 New lap record Robert Holden race - 49.334 B Dan Stauffer 17:55 Checker @ 5.55

[Shaun]

I'm a little confused on this one as Nick Cole did a 49.334 in the first F1 race and on mylaps is credited with a lap record and the following is copied and pasted from mylaps for the Robert Holden Memorial.
You are correct re the announcer saying there was a new lap record as that's how the info came through to the tower.
I'm picking that the system has a lap record history for the F1 and the Robert Holden Memorial


Announcements

17:50 New Track Record (49.799) for BEARS by Sloan Frost. 17:52 New lap record Robert Holden race - 49.334 B Dan Stauffer 17:55 Checker @ 5.55



was easier for me just to say MY BAD, or I would have been attached by a very proffessional sales man on here

[White trash]

was easier for me just to say MY BAD, or I would have been attached by a very proffessional sales man on here

What's he going to attach to ya?

[Shaun]

What's he going to attach to ya?



haha as I have said before " I am a Moron"

[skilly035]

What number? - might have some pics...

Classic #199 Bright Orange

[nadroj]

Nice arse!

[White trash]

Nice arse!

Bwahahaha, worng side of the traffic island, as usual :D

[skilly035]

Nice arse!

It's all the camera ever really sees of me!

[skilly035]

Bwahahaha, worng side of the traffic island, as usual :D

Only two or three times..just too much balls going too fast yknow

[Kickaha]

Nice arse!


Needs tighter leathers

[skilly035]

Needs tighter leathers

Wanna donate some?