Harley's marketing dept? [Archive]

98tls

27th December 2010, 18:36

:facepalm:Wtf were they thinking,have seen this crap on local TV and even then found it amusing though given Kiwis penchant for all things image was kind of forgiveable but this the US version:facepalm:.Unbelievable.<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JLdnIbDSgFs?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JLdnIbDSgFs?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

blackdog

27th December 2010, 18:40

models avail from 7999 US

thats only 10694 NZ at the mo

what would it cost to get it here?

98tls

27th December 2010, 18:41

Amost a case of bite your nose off to blah blah blah:facepalm:Why would they care why people buy there motorcycles as long as there bought,fuck me people have been buying them based on some fucked up lack of image thing for years:blink:Let it be.

98tls

27th December 2010, 18:43

models avail from 7999 US

thats only 10694 NZ at the mo

what would it cost to get it here?

Kiwi version boasts :facepalm:a starting price of $12995 for a whatever its called nowdays Sporty.

scumdog

27th December 2010, 19:13

models avail from 7999 US

thats only 10694 NZ at the mo

what would it cost to get it here?

Oh, by the time it's landed, duty paid and vinned? - about $3,000 at a guess

Big Dave

27th December 2010, 19:24

Personally I think that's a really good advert.

Do they use too many big words for you? :devil2:

Bonez

27th December 2010, 19:26

If it gets folks to buy them and put my bikes out in the market place bring it on I say.

firefighter

27th December 2010, 19:30

Personally I think that's a really good advert.

Do they use too many big words for you?

Me too, seems fine to me

Big Dave

27th December 2010, 19:35

Here - here's something to really worry about.

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98tls

27th December 2010, 19:37

Personally I think that's a really good advert.

Do they use too many big words for you?

Just for you D will say yea thats it.No matter what your personal opinion or as in your case the opinion your paid to have is (cheap shot) theres no escaping the fact that both here and the states people buy these things with image in mind.On one hand they take the piss outta people spending money on bullshit but then offer there motorcycles as a better option,one thats been around since Adam.:facepalm:

scumdog

27th December 2010, 19:40

Big Dave

27th December 2010, 19:52

You know it's cheap shot city!
Still don't see anything wrong with it and happily recommend several of those vehicles.

popelli

27th December 2010, 19:54

good advert

but it wouldn't convince me to buy one as their product development stopped back in 1984

AD345

27th December 2010, 19:55

Just for you D will say yea thats it.No matter what your personal opinion or as in your case the opinion your paid to have is (cheap shot) theres no escaping the fact that both here and the states people buy these things with image in mind.On one hand they take the piss outta people spending money on bullshit but then offer there motorcycles as a better option,one thats been around since Adam.:facepalm:

"people buy these things with image in mind"

You don't think that's true of Yamaha or Honda or Ducati?

Without an image to aspire to there is no earthly reason for a GSXR or FZR or whatever the latest R is that's doing the rounds. There is no useful reason for these items so a desire has to be created to want them anyway.

Anyone who denies that part of the reason they bought their bike (other than strict <400c commuter perhaps) was because of the way it made them feel is lying.

So Harley says that their bike will make you feel good? So does everyone else

Whats the problem?

AD345

27th December 2010, 19:57

Here - here's something to really worry about.

It's not right!

Plus - its not beer, its Budweiser

Big Dave

27th December 2010, 19:59

good advert

but it wouldn't convince me to buy one as their product development stopped back in 1984

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Viva AMF!

hellokitty

27th December 2010, 20:07

I like the ad.......
ugh! so many things I want to say but can't be bothered with the arguments.....

I like the look of Harleys, but the attitude of some Harley shops and riders put me off wanting to own one.

98tls

27th December 2010, 20:07

You know it's cheap shot city!
Still don't see anything wrong with it and happily recommend several of those vehicles.

Indeed.Tis not the vechicles i found amusing more so the wording.

Big Dave

27th December 2010, 20:08

Yeah man, I'm sticking with my pedicures:

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98tls

27th December 2010, 20:10

good advert

but it wouldn't convince me to buy one as their product development stopped back in 1984

:facepalm:Fuck me,all set with a perfectly good troll here and you come along:rofl:Stop fucking about and simply take a side ffs.

98tls

27th December 2010, 20:11

popelli

27th December 2010, 20:13

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Viva AMF!

five speed gear box's, disc brakes, welded frames, rubber mounted engines, electronic ignition and liasons with porsche re new engine designs

Big Dave

27th December 2010, 20:13

Indeed.Tis not the vechicles i found amusing more so the wording.

And the difference between the ad agency beautiful people and a lot of the reality.

That said there are some pretty hot chicky babes on hawgs out thar. It's more their old man who's had quite a few 'filled from the bottom'.

hellokitty

27th December 2010, 20:13

I feel the same way about Asian ladies.

Yes I bet you do :yes:
I have no idea what you are talking about but that is probably for the best....

Big Dave

27th December 2010, 20:17

five speed gear box's, disc brakes, welded frames, rubber mounted engines, electronic ignition and liasons with porsche re new engine designs

I think I mentioned before - I *so* wanted an XLCR, but just couldn't afford one. Ended up with a SR500 with bikini fairing and drop bars - and pretended.

That XR1200X is IMO is the 2nd best Harley ever, behind the discontinued street rod.

98tls

27th December 2010, 20:20

I think I mentioned before - I *so* wanted an XLCR, but just couldn't afford one. Ended up with a SR500 with bikini fairing and drop bars - and pretended.

That XR1200X is IMO is the 2nd best Harley ever, behind the discontinued street rod.

Been there myself with the SR,you still got the pic of yours D?

Big Dave

27th December 2010, 20:29

Photos in a crate somewhere in Newcastle. Black and gold with a stock 70's bikini fairing and m-type drop bars. Otherwise bog standard.

98tls

27th December 2010, 20:33

Photos in a crate somewhere in Newcastle. Black and gold with a stock 70's bikini fairing and m-type drop bars. Otherwise bog standard.

Mine had a fairing off a 79/80 cant remember exactly 900SS duc.Looked bloody good all things considered.

Virago

27th December 2010, 20:34

I guess the Suzuki Way of Life is the only way to go...

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98tls

27th December 2010, 20:44

Photos in a crate somewhere in Newcastle. Black and gold with a stock 70's bikini fairing and m-type drop bars. Otherwise bog standard.

Your post reminded me of a very nice Trident my old fella had,3 into 1 the end of you could sleep in,clip ons and a lovely Stone type bikini fairing,from the house to the old Conway store through the Hundalees was 5 kms approx,when the thing was singing you could hear it most of the way there.:woohoo:Glorious.

scumdog

27th December 2010, 20:45

I guess the Suzuki Way of Life is the only way to go...

That's it - the XN is going....

MadDuck

27th December 2010, 20:49

.... but the attitude of some Harley riders put me off wanting to own one.

Yeah whats with that attitude ... :innocent:

Virago

27th December 2010, 20:53

That's it - the XN is going....

I should think so too. Why you would want to associate with those Suzuki posers is beyond me. Death's too good for 'em...

Toaster

27th December 2010, 21:21

Personally I think that's a really good advert.

Do they use too many big words for you? :devil2:

Agreed. I like the ad. It certainly points out that fun and stress relief can easily be found on a ride with mates rather than all that rubbish people fall for.

Nice focus on the younger buyers market too. HD moving into younger markets. Good on them. They just need more "cool" looking bikes like the new V-Rod.

SMOKEU

27th December 2010, 21:34

Harleys are gay, almost as gay as Honda riders.

scumdog

27th December 2010, 21:40

Harleys are gay, almost as gay as Honda riders.

Poor troll, "Must Try Harder"

SMOKEU

27th December 2010, 21:50

Poor troll, "Must Try Harder"

Hey I'm drunk, what do you expect?

Flip

27th December 2010, 22:02

I like the Harley add. What did it say buy a Harley and feel good. I don't see what the problem is. Oh did anybody else notice that none of the folk in the Suzuki advert were asian! They all looked like white middle class american office workers.

st00ji

27th December 2010, 23:23

Berries

27th December 2010, 23:37

No beards and no skanks. How does that represent the current HD clientele ? Seems like the ad agency went a bit over the top. A rope swing ? :killingme

Shadows

27th December 2010, 23:57

:facepalm:Wtf were they thinking,have seen this crap on local TV and even then found it amusing though given Kiwis penchant for all things image was kind of forgiveable but this the US version:facepalm:.Unbelievable.</EMBED>

I've seen some pretty corny HD ads but I don't reckon that is one of them.

This one, on the other hand...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9KUMHFE-HE

sinfull

28th December 2010, 04:35

I've seen some pretty corny HD ads but I don't reckon that is one of them.

This one, on the other hand...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9KUMHFE-HE

Right behind HOOTERS hmmmmmmmm

popelli

28th December 2010, 04:54

I think I mentioned before - I *so* wanted an XLCR, but just couldn't afford one. Ended up with a SR500 with bikini fairing and drop bars - and pretended.

shame they don't make a decent repro XLCR with an evo motor and brakes that work, it would get people back into the showroom and they wouldn't have to resort to lifestyle adverts

wysper

28th December 2010, 06:14

I like the look of Harleys, but the attitude of some Harley shops and riders put me off wanting to own one.

True, but it is also true of all brands.

onearmedbandit

28th December 2010, 07:28

I thought it was quite a cool vid myself.

far queue

28th December 2010, 07:59

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5a0LIspQuk) one for all the bad ass wannabees. I've got to admit though, I thought the stunt rider was pretty good.

White trash

28th December 2010, 08:32

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5a0LIspQuk) one for all the bad ass wannabees. I've got to admit though, I thought the stunt rider was pretty good.

What the fuck is the world coming to!?!? Apehangers on an Electraglide?

Loving the big standup wheelie on the Tourglide though.

Mean stunts, crap song.

scumdog

28th December 2010, 08:50

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5a0LIspQuk) one for all the bad ass wannabees. I've got to admit though, I thought the stunt rider was pretty good.

First naff thing I noticed was 'the-baseball-hat-under-the-helmet' thing, it all went down-hill after that.

'cept the riding.

skinman

28th December 2010, 16:37

:puke: caps under hats, rapping to a really bad song, for a f..n harley ad FFS
as if those posers would even be seen dead on a Harley.

dipshit

28th December 2010, 16:55

caps under hats, rapping to a really bad song, for a f..n harley ad FFS
as if those posers would even be seen dead on a Harley.

They are probably just trying to appeal to a younger market as their current market is aging and dying off.

HenryDorsetCase

28th December 2010, 20:04

HenryDorsetCase

28th December 2010, 20:09

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5a0LIspQuk) one for all the bad ass wannabees. I've got to admit though, I thought the stunt rider was pretty good.

here's an interesting factoid: the guy who pulls up second (he plays "Happy" in Sons of Anarchy) is the real deal patched 1%er bad ass biker guy. the tattoos you see in the show are real. He started as a TA (Technical Adviser) on the show, and (I think) riding coach and then Sutter put him in front of the camera. He is in the bad ass category, not the wannabe category. Just FYI.

and as others have said, shit song, cool stunts and nice bikes.

Shadows

28th December 2010, 23:30

here's an interesting factoid: the guy who pulls up second (he plays "Happy" in Sons of Anarchy) is the real deal patched 1%er bad ass biker guy. the tattoos you see in the show are real. He started as a TA (Technical Adviser) on the show, and (I think) riding coach and then Sutter put him in front of the camera. He is in the bad ass category, not the wannabe category. Just FYI.

and as others have said, shit song, cool stunts and nice bikes.

I'd sack him then, his advice hasn't made the show any less queer than it would have been anyway.

Berries

28th December 2010, 23:36

Hmmm. I want a Harley.

sinfull

28th December 2010, 23:44

I want to see someone pull up, first or second ?? Not happy corrr, thought i was gonna see a movie star or somit !

Grubber

29th December 2010, 05:47

"people buy these things with image in mind"

You don't think that's true of Yamaha or Honda or Ducati?

Without an image to aspire to there is no earthly reason for a GSXR or FZR or whatever the latest R is that's doing the rounds. There is no useful reason for these items so a desire has to be created to want them anyway.

Anyone who denies that part of the reason they bought their bike (other than strict <400c commuter perhaps) was because of the way it made them feel is lying.

So Harley says that their bike will make you feel good? So does everyone else

Whats the problem?

Would have to disagree with this. I brought mine because i simply like the way it looks and rides. No image required. I had a Harley for a few years and ended up getting rid of it for a couple of good reasons. 1 was because it handled like shit and 2 because they were being taken over by wannabe's. Actually got nothing against the bike itself too much. They were reliable enough and once you spent a few grand on them they sort of went ok.

Big Dave

29th December 2010, 06:44

Would have to disagree with this. .... a few grand on them they sort of went ok.

All creditable till we get to the 'Trumpydom!' sig line. :=)

And there's a speed triple in the family!

wysper

29th December 2010, 06:47

Would have to disagree with this. I brought mine because i simply like the way it looks and rides. No image required. I had a Harley for a few years and ended up getting rid of it for a couple of good reasons. 1 was because it handled like shit and 2 because they were being taken over by wannabe's.

So you bought your current bike because of how it looks (partly), well that is related to image I reckon.

As for the handling like shit, do you mean it didn't handle like a sports bike?

I am new to Harley, but I wanted a bike I could just cruise on. And the harley does that for me. I don't ride fast, I don't corner knee down and don't need to be in front of every vehicle on the road.

So for me the harley is a good ride, I grin when I am on it, it is a simple bike, but the sportys are supposed to be pretty reliable. I am sure you can dredge up many horror stories. You could for any model or brand these days given technology like google.

I imagine it is more about picking the ride that will make you most happy and suit the style of riding you do. For me now, it is a cruiser. The cruiser I chose happens to be a harley. I tried a few japanese ones, and didn't grin, the trumpys were just out of my price range so the harley it is. And so far I am loving it.

doc

29th December 2010, 07:07

Hey this is a cheap knockoff of the American ad.

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Grubber

29th December 2010, 07:38

All creditable till we get to the 'Trumpydom!' sig line. :=)

And there's a speed triple in the family!

Don't really see what owning a triumph has to do with it. Find it a far better bike than the Harley, simple as that really. For me anyway.

I got my Hurricane die cast too by the way. Cost me a bit more than the $2 i offered you though.

So you bought your current bike because of how it looks (partly), well that is related to image I reckon.

As for the handling like shit, do you mean it didn't handle like a sports bike?

I am new to Harley, but I wanted a bike I could just cruise on. And the harley does that for me. I don't ride fast, I don't corner knee down and don't need to be in front of every vehicle on the road.

So for me the harley is a good ride, I grin when I am on it, it is a simple bike, but the sportys are supposed to be pretty reliable. I am sure you can dredge up many horror stories. You could for any model or brand these days given technology like google.

I imagine it is more about picking the ride that will make you most happy and suit the style of riding you do. For me now, it is a cruiser. The cruiser I chose happens to be a harley. I tried a few japanese ones, and didn't grin, the trumpys were just out of my price range so the harley it is. And so far I am loving it.

You are quite right. There are in fact plenty of cruisers out there that are a long way cheaper than Harley that do the same job. As for image...i brought mine because I liked it and not because everyone else likes them.

Big Dave

29th December 2010, 07:44

I got my Hurricane die cast too by the way. Cost me a bit more than the $2 i offered you though.

It has sentimental value!

I want to get the Bud Eakins 'great escape' replica next.

Grubber

29th December 2010, 07:51

It has sentimental value!

I want to get the Bud Eakins 'great escape' replica next.

Spotted that online a couple of weeks ago. Notice it's gone now though.
Internet is great...can find these things all over the place.:woohoo:

dipshit

29th December 2010, 08:13

They are probably just trying to appeal to a younger market as their current market is aging and dying off.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/17/autos/harley_davidson_fall.fortune/index.htm

tri boy

29th December 2010, 09:33

I'd buy a HD when/if they make a bike that fits me, my riding style, and makes me happy.
Might happen, might not.
Ad is ok. Guitar riff pretty cool.
Girls in knickers, swing rope in hand, wayyy cool.:sunny:

wysper

29th December 2010, 15:12

i brought mine because I liked it and not because everyone else likes them.

yeah me too, apparently EVERYONE hates sportys LOL, the harley riders because it aint a real harley and the non harley riders because it IS a harley :facepalm:

But I like it, and like you, that is all that matters.

Ride on.

Big Dave

29th December 2010, 15:20

Some of my best friends ride sportsters.

Shadows

29th December 2010, 15:25

yeah me too, apparently EVERYONE hates sportys LOL, the harley riders because it aint a real harley and the non harley riders because it IS a harley

Nothing wrong with a Sporty if you're after a standard motorcycle and not a big cruiser.

Nothing at all.

Depends on what you're into, horses for courses and all that.

ellipsis

29th December 2010, 15:34

...never met anyone yet who has told me my sporty is a girls bike or a tractor or whatever else it is that sportys are SUPPOSED to be...only read these things on forums...I race on a track, not on the road...my racing machines are all pc jappies and a british classic...cant actually figure out what the kickers problems are...small dicks?...henpecked?...easily led?...full'o'shit?...dont care really...just love my sportster...ads are ads...only work on box-watchers and those with easily filled spaces between brain cells...the fact that they make people talk and discuss their product is all they want...so it must therefore be, a bloody good ad...haven't seen it tho...

98tls

29th December 2010, 19:22

No beards and no skanks. How does that represent the current HD clientele ? Seems like the ad agency went a bit over the top. A rope swing ? :killingme

:rofl:The ones that scare me are those donned in impeccable leathers combined with the latest in head and hand coverings happy with there new found status though ignorant of the hazard to both themselves and other road users as they brake 1/2 way round anything resembling a kink in the road.I do however rejoice briefly when i come across Mr "walked out on 20 years of marriage to spend time with this 1/2 my age booze hag resplendent in suede boots and no teeth",shame for her that put in the hard yards but.:violin:

vifferman

29th December 2010, 19:35

Personally I think that's a really good advert.

Um, somewhat surprisingly, so do I. :yes:

98tls

29th December 2010, 19:39

Um, somewhat surprisingly, so do I. :yes:

Dont tell anyone V but it didnt bother me that much either,threads nothing more than a bit of a laugh really.

motor_mayhem

29th December 2010, 20:36

I thought the HD ad was very good, for 1/4 of a second I wondered what it would be like to own one, then I remembered HD have given no thought to weight considerations, engine design and technology or aerodynamics and handling, rather choosing to stick with their "cool image". Having said this, according to this article (http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/motorcycle_efi_basics.htm), it sounds like they are only meeting the demands of their buyers.

White trash

29th December 2010, 22:06

Some of my best friends ride skirtsters.

Fixed it for ya fella :D

In all seriousness though, the ad got people talking. So themarketing people get a big fucken pat on the back and an even bigger bonus.

They're sitting in the tea room right now.

"Holy shit John, they're talking about that fucken ad on a stupid online forum in New Zealand!"

"New Zealand? Where's that?"

"It's a little hole down by Antartica, consists of three islands, ten times as many sheep as humans."

"Oh yeah, they've got a bridge there from Sydney, right?"

Big Dave

29th December 2010, 23:27

Fixed it for ya fella :D

4 Bathursts, 3 Castrol Six hours (Including a class win and a fourth overall on a 250) and the Yamaha 250 Gold/World Cup.
Now rides a Sportster. You can call him Mr Rusty.

cheshirecat

30th December 2010, 13:23

My friends got a newish Iron and it won't start within 15 meters of New World - (alarm doesn't disarm) A fact not mentioned in the advertising.

wysper

30th December 2010, 13:50

My friends got a newish Iron and it won't start within 15 meters of New World - (alarm doesn't disarm) A fact not mentioned in the advertising.

yep, anywhere putting out strong RF signals messes with the alarms. In Hammy the telecom building is really bad, i found out that it messes with subaru alarms too.
Apparently Dick Smith stores can be bad too.

scumdog

30th December 2010, 16:09

My friends got a newish Iron and it won't start within 15 meters of New World - (alarm doesn't disarm) A fact not mentioned in the advertising.

And people want technology with their Harley....:whistle:

jasonu

31st December 2010, 18:00

:rofl:The ones that scare me are those donned in impeccable leathers combined with the latest in head and hand coverings happy with there new found status though ignorant of the hazard to both themselves and other road users as they brake 1/2 way round anything resembling a kink in the road.I do however rejoice briefly when i come across Mr "walked out on 20 years of marriage to spend time with this 1/2 my age booze hag resplendent in suede boots and no teeth",shame for her that put in the hard yards but.:violin:

WILD HOGS!!!

A lot of people around here buy them for general transport and they do a great job. What you get is quite good value for money compaired to what the other mc companies are offering.
But with the weather right now I will stick with my winter rig as pictured.

98tls

31st December 2010, 18:41

:woohoo:Great pic fella,

FJRider

31st December 2010, 18:49

WILD HOGS!!!

A lot of people around here buy them for general transport and they do a great job. What you get is quite good value for money compaired to what the other mc companies are offering.
But with the weather right now I will stick with my winter rig as pictured.

Made by the same people that make the Victory Motorcycle's .... :yes: