hogs that never loose it? [Archive]

surfchick

16th June 2005, 20:19

people i have to ask this-
i've seen loads of dudes on road/race & tourer type bikes nearly loose it or loose it... but i NEVER see any big cruiser doing anything but staying on. Don't you guys ever fall off... i just gotta know cause i keep gettin pased by totally in-command cruiser types that look perfectly stable on the road... someone must have an "i slid out my new harley story..." :devil2:

Two Smoker

16th June 2005, 20:21

surfchick

16th June 2005, 20:23

2stoker!! not all dees dudes are a "cruisin" they seem to blast past...mmm may-be its just their low rumble confusin me...

HDTboy

16th June 2005, 20:24

Waylander crashed his virago the first day I heard of KB, and he wasn't cruising :eyepoke:

Two Smoker

16th June 2005, 20:34

2stoker!! not all dees dudes are a "cruisin" they seem to blast past...mmm may-be its just their low rumble confusin me...

definately confusing.... most cruisers (with the exception of the rocket three, virago (1100cc), Vrod and a couple others) are mainly all noise and no go... bit like my RG150... I looked up the specs, my RG is quicker than most small bore harleys...

surfchick

16th June 2005, 20:36

bit like my RG150... I looked up the specs, my RG is quicker than most small bore harleys...

naooooo! really? nooooo... it's amazing how noise is a bit of a smoescreen then... mind you-pretty cool smokescreen... :devil2:

scumdog

16th June 2005, 20:39

definately confusing.... most cruisers (with the exception of the rocket three, virago (1100cc), Vrod and a couple others) are mainly all noise and no go... bit like my RG150... I looked up the specs, my RG is quicker than most small bore harleys...

Quicker than what??? quicker to 80km? quicker to blow up? quicker to depreciate? :wait:

Explain yourself man :Pokey:

Two Smoker

16th June 2005, 20:41

naooooo! really? nooooo... it's amazing how noise is a bit of a smoescreen then... mind you-pretty cool smokescreen... :devil2:

mmmmm two stroke smoke... those specs were done by a tester... when it comes to me riding the RG, im laging somewhere at the back...

Two Smoker

16th June 2005, 20:45

Quicker than what??? quicker to 80km? quicker to blow up? quicker to depreciate? :wait:

Explain yourself man :Pokey:

quicker on the 1/4 mile, dont know about quicker to blow up... ill call them even :whistle: RG is definately quicker to depreciate... but then at a brand new price of 3 grand... and i can sell mine for 1500-2000......

Not hassling Cruisers at all... im keen as to have a go, and the 250 cruiser i rode was heaps of fun... scrapped the pegs too easy, it was slow it handled badly, but it was just fun to ride.... hard to explain...

scumdog

16th June 2005, 20:53

quicker on the 1/4 mile, dont know about quicker to blow up... ill call them even :whistle: RG is definately quicker to depreciate... but then at a brand new price of 3 grand... and i can sell mine for 1500-2000......

Not hassling Cruisers at all... im keen as to have a go, and the 250 cruiser i rode was heaps of fun... scrapped the pegs too easy, it was slow it handled badly, but it was just fun to ride.... hard to explain...

What 1/4 mile time? (MIne is high 13 seconds but it will do 190km with two up and 30kg of gear on board on a flat road - faster slightly down-hill, just ask R1Aaaron), my depreciation is about .001 percent per annum!!
Not knocking your bike shag, different strokes for different folks eh?

BTW my bike is a bit like the 250 cruiser you mentioned - and it is the best handling H-D from the factory :niceone:
Cheers

Two Smoker

16th June 2005, 20:59

What 1/4 mile time? (MIne is high 13 seconds but it will do 190km with two up and 30kg of gear on board on a flat road - faster slightly down-hill, just ask R1Aaaron), my depreciation is about .001 percent per annum!!
Not knocking your bike shag, different strokes for different folks eh?

BTW my bike is a bit like the 250 cruiser you mentioned - and it is the best handling H-D from the factory :niceone:
Cheers

Low 14 seconds.. have done 180kmh on a slight downhill with a pillion (pillion only weighed 60 odd kg's)

Not expecting and bike knocking :niceone:

Just stating that most cruiser riders generally do just that, cruise... When i rode a cruiser i just cruised for the majority of the time, hence why you dont see so many go sliding...

Motu

16th June 2005, 21:01

On a Poker run I was pretty soon on the scene on Skyhigh road when a Springer HD went over the bank - it was upside down in a tree with the pillion underneath,the rider was up on the road with just gravel rash.The pillion was OK,but if it wasn't for the tree he wouldn't of been.The near new bike was a write off and had to be pulled out with a Hiab.I was talking to the Duke rider who was following the Springer and he said he was only doing about 40kph,but just ran out of clearance.

Waylander

16th June 2005, 21:28

definately confusing.... most cruisers (with the exception of the rocket three, virago (1100cc), Vrod and a couple others) are mainly all noise and no go... bit like my RG150... I looked up the specs, my RG is quicker than most small bore harleys...

Yea that's right!! Respect the Virago!!! lol

Nah we wreck too, just not as often cause most of us can control our bikes at thier top speed. Mine has a top of about 150 or so. Could probably go faster but I don't want to push it to hard.

HDTboy

16th June 2005, 21:33

Hey way man, look up.

Waylander

16th June 2005, 21:39

Hey way man, look up.

Wich post man? Yours? Read it and yea I did crash.I didn't say that we don't crash I juat said not as often.

marty

16th June 2005, 21:42

there's always tawera nikau....

surfchick

16th June 2005, 21:46

Yea that's right!! Respect the Virago!!! lol

Nah we wreck too, just not as often cause most of us can control our bikes at thier top speed. Mine has a top of about 150 or so. Could probably go faster but I don't want to push it to hard.

waylander-
is your bike 1000cc's and it's top speed is 150kph? what do all the cc's do if they don't make you go fast? is it low down power? or do you have all the cc's to make it a smoove ride w. no vibration...or lots of vibration...i confused...

Two Smoker

16th June 2005, 21:48

waylander-
is your bike 1000cc's and it's top speed is 150kph? what do all the cc's do if they don't make you go fast? is it low down power? or do you have all the cc's to make it a smoove ride w. no vibration...or lots of vibration...i confused...

above 200kmh, those plasticy things that naked riders mock all the time, really come into effect...

Waylander

16th June 2005, 21:49

waylander-
is your bike 1000cc's and it's top speed is 150kph? what do all the cc's do if they don't make you go fast? is it low down power? or do you have all the cc's to make it a smoove ride w. no vibration...or lots of vibration...i confused...

Sorry should have said that is 150 MILES per hour. Vibrates like crasy at that speed. And low speed. Hell once I get the thing runnin right I'll bring it up so you can have a sit and feel it. Not as much vib as a harley but damn close.

It is a very smooth ride too when cagers don't get in the way.

c4.

16th June 2005, 21:50

do you leave your cell ph on ring now?

Waylander

16th June 2005, 21:53

do you leave your cell ph on ring now?

Heh only when I'm riding yea. Wouldn't have done much good then either as I didn't have my nummber memorised at the time. Have now though...

surfchick

16th June 2005, 21:54

Sorry should have said that is 150 MILES per hour. Vibrates like crasy at that speed. And low speed. Hell once I get the thing runnin right I'll bring it up so you can have a sit and feel it. Not as much vib as a harley but damn close.

It is a very smooth ride too when cagers don't get in the way.

aggghh mph eh? doah..forgot you measure in real currency :devil2: yeah you should barrel up when it's fixed- are you up and riding now?

surfchick

16th June 2005, 21:55

do you leave your cell ph on ring now?
ba ha was it all his talk on vibration? :devil2:

Waylander

16th June 2005, 21:59

It runs but barley. Needs its carbs rejetted or cleand

And nah when I wrecked my phone fell out of my pocket. Long grass so it was a chore to find it. Thought calling it would be a good idea but it was on vibrate. No worries it has flashing lights and stuff. Then realised that I didn't know what my number was... Still cant figure out how my phone fell out but not the handfull of change I had in the other pocket...

Virago

16th June 2005, 21:59

For we Cruiser riders, getting there fast with knees down is not an option, or a goal. It's a laid-back joy-ride, not a race. Short bursts of acceleration, with gobs of big fat V-twin torque (with the accompanying roar), is enough to set the heart a-flutter.

The only time I get a knee down beside the Virago is when I clean it.

thehollowmen

16th June 2005, 22:08

a friend of mine lost it on a harley down here.

lil bit of gravel in a shadow on a turn in the summer...

Broke his ribs, and his collar bone and the bike caught on fire.

Not a happy camper.

marty

16th June 2005, 22:28

. Short bursts of acceleration, with gobs of big fat V-twin torque (with the accompanying roar), is enough to set the heart a-flutter.

you'll be talking about the TL then?

Lou Girardin

17th June 2005, 09:33

Harleys slide on slippery stuff too, but with the long wheelbase they send you a letter to say "I'm sliding", you can then roll a smoke and correct it in plenty of time.
You need to ride the Street Rod Scumdog, but you might not be as happy with the Sporty after.

White trash

17th June 2005, 16:07

The day I see a stock XV1100 do a genuine 150mph, is the day I start rooting boys........

thehollowmen

17th June 2005, 16:38

The day I see a stock XV1100 do a genuine 150mph, is the day I start rooting boys........
pppsssst Virago = Viagra, I'm gonna need your help here to pervert this one :devil2:

The Preacher

17th June 2005, 16:55

Sorry should have said that is 150 MILES per hour.

Strange my 1998 Virago spec's say top speed 180Kph, :argh:
and I have reached 170kph and would not have liked to have taken it higher. Front end starts to shake.

1100cc Virago = low down torque, smooth engine for a V-twin.

Eurodave

17th June 2005, 17:03

[QUOTE=Virago = Viagra]For we Cruiser riders, getting there fast with knees down is not an option, or a goal. It's a laid-back joy-ride, not a race. Short bursts of acceleration, with gobs of big fat V-twin torque (with the accompanying roar), is enough to set the heart a-flutter.QUOTE]

"KIN OATH MATE, YOUVE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!

Waylander

17th June 2005, 17:56

pppsssst Virago = Viagra, I'm gonna need your help here to pervert this one :devil2:

Heh why? I'm closer to WT (he is gonna be moving to be about an hour or so away in a week or so) and my speedo is already in miles. Just give me a good straight road for it as curves at anything above 130K kinda freak me out.

Only problem I can see with it is it turns out my ride isn't all stock.

Virago

17th June 2005, 20:32

The day I see a stock XV1100 do a genuine 150mph, is the day I start rooting boys........
Hmmm, I might have to sit on the fence on this one (if only to stop WT from getting near my arse). :confused:

My XV is stock (with MPH speedo), it red-lines in top gear at about 118 to 120 MPH (hard to tell exactly due the speedo vibrating). That's as fast as I've taken it.

The speedo is only marked to 115MPH anyway, so a faster run would require some guess work based on RPM.

Red-line on the Virago is 7000rpm, but I've heard of them being taken past 8500, so Waylander may not be too far wrong with his estimated top speed.

What revs where you pulling Waylander?

It's only the short gearing that holds the Virago back, it's got the grunt for at least one more gear. I've had mine over the ton, going uphill, with Mrs V-V and a full pack on the back (for some reason Mrs V-V likes the waves of resonating vibrations at higher revs). :innocent:

Waylander

17th June 2005, 20:36

Had it about 95. Freind of mine was driving next to me in a car that's how I know the speed limit.

Virago

17th June 2005, 20:46

Had it about 95. Freind of mine was driving next to me in a car that's how I know the speed limit.
Well you're a braver man than me - at those revs I'd be more worried about getting the rear piston up my arse! It might be less painful to back off and let WT have his way instead. :buggerd:

Waylander

17th June 2005, 20:48

Well you're a braver man than me - at those revs I'd be more worried about getting the rear piston up my arse! It might be less painful to back off and let WT have his way instead. :buggerd:

Probably, but be damned if his gonna have his way with my back end.

gav

17th June 2005, 21:02

Well 95 is a frickin long way from a 150!!! :rofl:
And anyway how can cruisers fall over.....
http://sickestbikes.dyndns.org/photos/8463.jpg

Waylander

17th June 2005, 21:04

Well 95 is a frickin long way from a 150!!! :rofl:

He asked about RPMs mate. I answered 95, read it as Nine five. 9500 in the revs. Come on mate it wasn't that cryptic.:whistle:

Ixion

17th June 2005, 21:06

Well 95 is a frickin long way from a 150!!! :rofl:
And anyway how can cruisers fall over.....
http://sickestbikes.dyndns.org/photos/8463.jpg
I think Mr Waylander meant that he was pulling 9500 rpm. His speedo was (presumably) off the clock, but he has equated the 9500 rpm to a speed of 150mph, and confirmed that by reference to a car driving alongside. Wonderful things speedo's equally wonderful things tachos. And clutchs. But it would have been honking fast anyway. They can do such things in the USA, they do not have Frau Helen

Kickaha

17th June 2005, 21:17

Sorry should have said that is 150 MILES per hour. Vibrates like crasy at that speed. And low speed. Hell once I get the thing runnin right I'll bring it up so you can have a sit and feel it. Not as much vib as a harley but damn close.
.

The only way one of those things would do 150mph would be if you threw it out of an aeroplane

gav

17th June 2005, 21:17

Ha, you think that hole is deep enough, or you just want to keep digging?
9500 rpm out of a XV1100? What car was alongside at 150mph? And this is with no fairing?? You're full of it, mate.....

Waylander

17th June 2005, 21:52

Ha, you think that hole is deep enough, or you just want to keep digging?
9500 rpm out of a XV1100? What car was alongside at 150mph? And this is with no fairing?? You're full of it, mate.....

*sigh* Tell ya what mate, when I get my bike all fixed up and running like it was before I wrecked it you get your arse up here and me and you will find a nice bit of straigh road in the middle of no where and I'll prove it to you.

gav

17th June 2005, 22:38

Plenty of straight roads down here, how about on your South Island tour?

Waylander

17th June 2005, 22:42

Plenty of straight roads down here, how about on your South Island tour?

Righto then.

Jackrat

18th June 2005, 10:59

I put my Sportster down without to much help an a few of my mates pranged their HDs.If there is any difference between Sport bikes an cruisers going down it's probably speed,age/attitude related.
Given that,my first HD was a 1980 FLT,THE UGLYEST BIKE EVER MADE.
It handled better off road than any other road bike I've ever ridden,you could drift it into an out of corners with total control.
That was in OZ where I spent a fair bit of time out west on dirt roads.
That bike put payed to the idea that HDs are unreliable for me.
Maybe some of the owners huh!!

The Preacher

18th June 2005, 13:00

Sorry should have said that is 150 MILES per hour. Vibrates like crasy at that speed.

150mph = 241kph wow man :weird:

after this I might stop looking at selling my Virago and upsizing. Seems it can out run most road racers .... Oh yea :rofl:

Timber020

18th June 2005, 16:37

Saw some guy in leathers doing some frantic dance while we were driving down the highway a couple years back. Turned out it was a harley rider with the bike fallen over and the handlebar pinning his boot. He had pulled over to change cd's in his discman and lost footing in the gravel on the side of the road.
Helped a guy from auckland that lost it on a corner near tokoroa and ended up spread all over the firebreak. He had stuff all protective gear and was very lucky he didnt make contact with the tarseal, but still had alot of scrapes.

Most harley riders are older and havent chosen a bike to push to its limits.(or more that you dont have to push them far to find their limits)

FROSTY

18th June 2005, 16:47

one point with big tourers,cruisers is they seem to be able to maintaiin a good average speed. Never the fastest in the short squirt but better over longer distance.
Mind you when I was young and stupid I made the mistake of trying to keep up with a dude on a goldwing--very very scarey --the guy coould ride and had that thing at obscene angles

Jackrat

18th June 2005, 19:38